Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[ilovetea69]

On 9/22/2020 at 7:55 AM, Crota said:

I can't seem to read the diary, I pick it up and read it but the quest does not progress once it has been read and there are not talking options related to the quest on the mother or father? 

 

Any work around or idea how to fix it?

i have the same problem, i pick up the diary, read it and nothing happens. Can anyone help us?

[Crota]

7 hours ago, ilovetea69 said:

i have the same problem, i pick up the diary, read it and nothing happens. Can anyone help us?

I actually figured it out. If you have AddItemMenu from nexus you can use that to search for the diary and put it in your inventory then that automatically advances the quest. If not, you might be able to use console commands 

 

help "diary"

 

player.additem -------- 1

[griffinjohn59]

15 hours ago, justbob2 said:

I'm at the point where I am a breeder for father, but it's getting tedious.  Is there a way to speed up the process?  Can I advance the quest stage without messing it up?  Do I need to go to 'BEEING FEMALE' to do that?

Depends on what, if any, pregnancy mod you are using.  If you're using beeing female there's a cheat menu to skip to the next phase.  Be wary however as the final stage of the breeder quest is triggered by entering Labor Pains, not actually giving birth.  I'm not certain if the soulgem pregnancy mod is compatible, and I cannot remember if there's a way to accelerate your pregnancy in it.  Key takeaway, if the breeder quest is boring you to death and the pregnancy mod you're using allows it, accelerate your pregnancy to right before giving birth.

[Inte]

On 9/24/2020 at 1:57 AM, Crota said:

I like the idea but I don't think it works correctly. When I open the MCM menu it just shows a screenshot of the girl cleaning and you cant set up any buttons.

Try this one. 

 

 

pchsWartimes - Patches.7z

[justbob2]

8 hours ago, griffinjohn59 said:

Depends on what, if any, pregnancy mod you are using.  If you're using beeing female there's a cheat menu to skip to the next phase.  Be wary however as the final stage of the breeder quest is triggered by entering Labor Pains, not actually giving birth.  I'm not certain if the soulgem pregnancy mod is compatible, and I cannot remember if there's a way to accelerate your pregnancy in it.  Key takeaway, if the breeder quest is boring you to death and the pregnancy mod you're using allows it, accelerate your pregnancy to right before giving birth.

Thanks for the advice.  I used the debug option in Beeing Female to force a pregnancy.  After watching fathers reaction to that, I moved on and forced the birth.  (The labor pains trigger worked fine, by the way.) That got me the choice to become his slave wife or refuse and end in Simple Slavery.  I tried both, just to see how the mod played out.  The slave wife looked like a dead end (or more of the same), so took the slavery option to move my game along.

 

So, with your help, I feel like I have reached a conclusion to the path I chose. I really enjoyed this play through! Thanks PCHS! I will probably go back and try different options later.

[hththt666777]

Can this be played w/o SD? I rellay didnt like that mod but would like to start with this on a new game soon.

i cant see why its a dependancy

[Highborn]

4 minutes ago, hththt666777 said:

Can this be played w/o SD? I rellay didnt like that mod but would like to start with this on a new game soon.

i cant see why its a dependancy

yes, you can. It's a soft dependancy

[pchs]

10 hours ago, justbob2 said:

Thanks for the advice.  I used the debug option in Beeing Female to force a pregnancy.  After watching fathers reaction to that, I moved on and forced the birth.  (The labor pains trigger worked fine, by the way.) That got me the choice to become his slave wife or refuse and end in Simple Slavery.  I tried both, just to see how the mod played out.  The slave wife looked like a dead end (or more of the same), so took the slavery option to move my game along.

 

So, with your help, I feel like I have reached a conclusion to the path I chose. I really enjoyed this play through! Thanks PCHS! I will probably go back and try different options later.

Slave wife option does setup prerequisities for PC to be able to marry Father (relations). I am not sure to what extent is possible to setup a marriage using CK - I've found very little info about this specific stuff on internets. At the moment I can include a popup box with information that player needs to take over the initiative and finish up marriage manualy.

[minotaoro]

46 minutes ago, pchs said:

Slave wife option does setup prerequisities for PC to be able to marry Father (relations). I am not sure to what extent is possible to setup a marriage using CK - I've found very little info about this specific stuff on internets. At the moment I can include a popup box with information that player needs to take over the initiative and finish up marriage manualy.

that wil be nice so qest can progres without lussing chaild for now ps nice work gj 

[justbob2]

The flow chart says mother dies if you become a slave wife.  This did not happen to me.  Should she die as soon as you accept to be the wife? Does it happen after a dialogue with father?  Or do you just have to stop feeding her?

[Lenore]

is there a way to actually win and get the house along with healthy mom, home?

[pchs]

9 hours ago, justbob2 said:

The flow chart says mother dies if you become a slave wife.  This did not happen to me.  Should she die as soon as you accept to be the wife? Does it happen after a dialogue with father?  Or do you just have to stop feeding her?

Actually I did not thought about what the scenario should be if she is kept inside the cage at home. I need to think up something. The story is now quite complicated and interconnected, that I sometimes loose myself in it.. Good catch.

8 hours ago, Lenore said:

is there a way to actually win and get the house along with healthy mom, home?

No, there is not.

 

On 9/23/2020 at 4:41 PM, Xuvish said:

Suggestion,

 

In addition to the normal alternate start, my thought is to integrate with simple slavery where you would start at the beginning of the questline and that your father would do a force greet to start the quest. 

 

You can have him add debt to the quest.  You would have to work to buy your freedom and your mothers.

 

Would it also be possible to start at various points in the quest that would make sense to the storyline?  I was thinking of using a dialogue menu with your father to choose which point to start.

 

Maybe you can even use something similar to this after a good ending.

 

Would that be possible or is the purpose to progress through the entire questline?

I thought about this, but as the mod story stands right now, it would be quite unimmersive. It would be needed to somehow strip away the whole "Father/Mother" point. Or maybe make the "Father" a lunetic that buys a slave so she could pretend to be his "daughter"?

On 9/24/2020 at 6:47 AM, Inte said:

Yes, I also keep forgetting what key does what. 

I've made a patch where you only need one hotkey. However, you do need this mod also. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/57046

Override all existing when installing it.

 

@pchs, if you decide to incorporate the patch into the main mod, the patch adds both a UIE wheel and a list. The wheel is already full as it can only hold 8 options. I guess you could make another wheel and bind it to another hotkey, or you could link a bunch of wheels together. However, the list can hold 127 options so if you decide to expand and add more poses, the list might be the way to go. 

pchsWartimes - Patches.7z 92.03 kB · 4 downloads

UIextensions are great. So far I did not find time to have a look on how to use them, so this is indeed helpful. I will make it part of the mod. Thank you!

[ilovetea69]

On 9/24/2020 at 4:54 PM, Crota said:

I actually figured it out. If you have AddItemMenu from nexus you can use that to search for the diary and put it in your inventory then that automatically advances the quest. If not, you might be able to use console commands 

 

help "diary"

 

player.additem -------- 1

tried additemenu solution didnt work, added like three diaries, read them , still no progress. Console commands didnt work for me, shame.

[Xuvish]

6 hours ago, pchs said:

Actually I did not thought about what the scenario should be if she is kept inside the cage at home. I need to think up something. The story is now quite complicated and interconnected, that I sometimes loose myself in it.. Good catch.

No, there is not.

 

I thought about this, but as the mod story stands right now, it would be quite unimmersive. It would be needed to somehow strip away the whole "Father/Mother" point. Or maybe make the "Father" a lunetic that buys a slave so she could pretend to be his "daughter"?

UIextensions are great. So far I did not find time to have a look on how to use them, so this is indeed helpful. I will make it part of the mod. Thank you!

 

How about an option where you don't start it right away?  Example, your father hears about all the deeds you have done an realizes you are his long lost daughter and sends a courier to start the quest.  This way you won't need alternate start.  You can have it start at a certain level or after a certain event like after way of voice questline is completed.

 

You would still get the same story with the only change being when you start it.  This could be an in addition to rather than replacement.

[jfraser]

gotta say, pchs, this is impressive so far. i'm doing the same tasks yet it doesn't feel repetitive. not that there shouldn't be more tasks, if you have them in mind.

 

issues (which you probably know about already):

 

- if i buy out my mother and she returns to tell me to flee, the guy she sends me to has no dialogue

- when mother comes back de-limbed, she actually has arms and legs. i used amputator's settings to remove them

- when it says the guard at the watchtower needs food again, he does not actually acknowledge it when i get there. starting that chore via father does work.

- I'll be happy to help with your english if you want. let me know.

- thanks for picking this back up. i'm really enjoying it.

[jfraser]

Oh, and Jezzer or whatever his name is - the old guy we have to bathe and whatnot - acts like I'm trespassing when I go into the house. I had to MoveTo him outside to do the quest.

[pchs]

11 hours ago, jfraser said:

gotta say, pchs, this is impressive so far. i'm doing the same tasks yet it doesn't feel repetitive. not that there shouldn't be more tasks, if you have them in mind.

 

issues (which you probably know about already):

 

- if i buy out my mother and she returns to tell me to flee, the guy she sends me to has no dialogue

- when mother comes back de-limbed, she actually has arms and legs. i used amputator's settings to remove them

- when it says the guard at the watchtower needs food again, he does not actually acknowledge it when i get there. starting that chore via father does work.

- I'll be happy to help with your english if you want. let me know.

- thanks for picking this back up. i'm really enjoying it.

 

11 hours ago, jfraser said:

Oh, and Jezzer or whatever his name is - the old guy we have to bathe and whatnot - acts like I'm trespassing when I go into the house. I had to MoveTo him outside to do the quest.

Thank you for your kind words!

- if i buy out my mother and she returns to tell me to flee, the guy she sends me to has no dialogue
I'll check that out.

- when mother comes back de-limbed, she actually has arms and legs. i used amputator's settings to remove them

This may be issue with your version of Amputator Framework. You need to use the patch provided by Monoman.

- when it says the guard at the watchtower needs food again, he does not actually acknowledge it when i get there. starting that chore via father does work.

These notifications are from early stage of development where I need to know if my timing scripts actually work. They do not make much sense nowadays, I'll remove them. The correct option to run a task is to ask Father either to give you a random one, or to ask his permission to run a specific one.

- I'll be happy to help with your english if you want. let me know.

Is it so bad? :-) (I've tried to give it more attention this time)

 

17 hours ago, Xuvish said:

 

How about an option where you don't start it right away?  Example, your father hears about all the deeds you have done an realizes you are his long lost daughter and sends a courier to start the quest.  This way you won't need alternate start.  You can have it start at a certain level or after a certain event like after way of voice questline is completed.

 

You would still get the same story with the only change being when you start it.  This could be an in addition to rather than replacement.

I do not want to mess up with the courrier stuff. Basically you can start the mod at any point in game, just get to the House at run the manual start of mod in debug menu.

[pchs]

On 9/22/2020 at 5:44 AM, lcewolf said:

I don't know if it's possible or in your future plan. But just before the bdsm item appears. It would be nice if our father asks us to put all our stuff in our commode with the exception of father Boot, collar and money then ask us to get everything for the party.
 

When we come back all our stuff is gone include clothing and maid outfit and he could tell us, for now we don't need any of this anymore and he doesn't want us to wear clothing outside.

 

Our PC become use to be like a slave

I've read this suggestion days ago and must say it lingers in my mind untill then. I'll probably go this way in some form. Thank you!

On 9/16/2020 at 12:43 AM, zhuguannan123 said:

seriously, any of you guys know the enb the dev's using in his/her screenshots? I remember there were posts discussing it but they seems removed.

I don't know why my posts get removed all the time. Happened to me not for the first time.

On 9/21/2020 at 10:15 PM, zalduras said:

When the houseparty starts, father everytime telling to be naked for party (last thing is maid clothes), after this he expect to be nude

 

 

This is a bug. I'll investigate.

On 9/21/2020 at 1:21 PM, esxay said:

Liked the stuff with immersive plugs, especially that they can't be removed even through their special menu, but getting carrot prevents to insert bottle, dissapointing guests not getting their bottles from "arse"?

And I think the pchsWartimesHome cell will be too small for upcoming stuff. Looking to the future, when the furniture interaction comes in thin place, any way to prevent them stucking? Or daddy will have fun alone, fine too... Or, maybe there will be "stage 2" comes in the different place... With more stuff and more lights?

And what's the stuff with soulgem factory quest?

Soulgem factory was an Alternate Start option which I've started to develop before I started with continuation of Daughter's Tale. It was supposed to be a start where female PC founds herself imprisoned in a bandit hideout because of her talent to "breed filled soulgems". Using this PC would build up her position, eventually turning to a "Factory Master" where instead of being the "Oven" she would get her own slaves to use as Ovens. It was meant as a perfect start for a mage or enchanter character for the leveling up using Soulgem Oven.

 

I may get back to it. No promises..

[lcewolf]

You made my morning happier!

[lcewolf]

When the PC is going to walk around naked like a worm, I can't wait to see everyone's reaction. I imagine options like feed soldiers, walk the dogs will no longer be available.

I would also have a proposal to make. After our mother left to be treated. The number of days paid by our father should be at least 5 days (time to unlock the slutty option) and to make things more interesting in an immersive way, the amount to take care of our mother should be higher force the PC to find a way to make more money. (Use the slutty option in a immersive way)

[jfraser]

Totally missed that patch, thanks.

 

Adding a request, if you feel so inclined, to add Fertility Mode as a supported pregnancy mod.

[zalduras]

On 9/27/2020 at 1:26 PM, pchs said:

This is a bug. I'll investigate.

I investigate a little bit. Sometimes, if you fast travel or waiting with T, it can happen.

 

I dont know what, but after this, father is upset for not obey to be naked.

 

There are no connection to the party. Sorry

[jfraser]

Update: This time I could talk to the uncle, so it must have just been a temporary glitch.

[ilovetea69]

is it possible to set stage to whatever is after you read the diary? as nothing happens even with the newest version of the mod.

[pchs]

14 minutes ago, ilovetea69 said:

is it possible to set stage to whatever is after you read the diary? as nothing happens even with the newest version of the mod.

Yes it is. Complete stage 100 and set stage 150. Writing it out of memory so I hope it is not 50 and 100 instead.

18 hours ago, jfraser said:

Totally missed that patch, thanks.

 

Adding a request, if you feel so inclined, to add Fertility Mode as a supported pregnancy mod.

Should be fairly easy as long as FM provides a hook to detect impregnation and actual birth without a hard dependency. Does it? (I've never used it)

2 hours ago, zalduras said:

I investigate a little bit. Sometimes, if you fast travel or waiting with T, it can happen.

 

I dont know what, but after this, father is upset for not obey to be naked.

 

There are no connection to the party. Sorry

Figured this one out yesterday. Will be fixed in the next version.