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3 minutes ago, shiftbitlogic said:

I would be happy to work with you to figure out if it is related to a specific mod or conflict, but it should be noted that this bug has been around since the earliest days of the mod, and it seems that I am not the only one experiencing this issue.  (See the posts above about Riften specifically.)

What earliest days? Resume or SLUTS in general?

 

An issue with the Carriage Spawning is actually just how easy the setup itself is. Im assuming your talking about the Driver & Player finding themselves on the right spot and thats just some basic AI Package stuff

The most reliable fix here would be to find an entirely different approach but thats easier said than done

Posted
On 10/31/2021 at 5:15 PM, Alenin said:

Does the CFTO patch and DCL patch work for the LE version?

I think so? Not sure? DCL probably, I dont know how different LE CFTO is from SE

Posted
25 minutes ago, Scrab said:

What earliest days? Resume or SLUTS in general?

 

An issue with the Carriage Spawning is actually just how easy the setup itself is. Im assuming your talking about the Driver & Player finding themselves on the right spot and thats just some basic AI Package stuff

The most reliable fix here would be to find an entirely different approach but thats easier said than done

 

Admittedly, it has been a while as this mod has been around for SE in various forms, but I believe since before SLUTS had representatives for the various villages (like Falkreath.)

 

You are correct with you latter statement. The issues I am seeing are during the driver player locating, and then the spell cast to "gear up the player." The forms of this issue vary, from Bjorlam and others not getting down from the carriage, to completely ignoring the triggering dialogue "I am ready for a haul" (Or whatever it is specifically. Sorry, I don't have it in front of me.)

 

As mentioned, in most cases, a "change of cell" seems to properly apply the AI to both player and NPC, and attempt to walk them to their spots.

I suspect, that a timeout on these AIs, requiring driver/player to be in a location after a certain amount of time (an teleporting them if they aren't), might resolve this issue.

Posted (edited)

Heya, I installed SLUTS Resume 2.7, the CFTO patch, and the Redux Cart. I also have CFTO 2.0 installed.

 

I've gotten the leaflet advertising the service, which was promising.

 

When I went outside the cities (Solitude and Markath) the regular carriages appear in the expected spots (not sure if it differs between CFTO and vanilla, as I've had CFTO in my load order for years). However, there's been no carriage drivers to be found anywhere.

 

I've conducted the following two experiments:

 

1. I uninstalled the CFTO patch and reloaded. The driver was in the right spot and I could use him for transport, but there was no SLUTS related dialogue available.

 

2. With the CFTO patch still installed, I used player.placeatme [RefID] to bring the appropriate driver to me. I could not hire him to transport me anywhere, but the conversation option to take on a SLUTS job was available. I talked through all of the conversation branches successfully, before finally accepting my first job. At that point I got a message saying something like "not a valid SLUT actor, quest aborted."

 

I'd appreciate any help troubleshooting this... those packages won't deliver themselves! :)

Edited by Anunya
Posted (edited)

Re: the poll and male SLUTS, my preference is an MCM option that allows users to allow female, male,  or male & female SLUTS according to their preference. I personally don't think I want to see male SLUTS, but I'm sure some people do and I wouldn't want to deny them that pleasure.

Edited by Anunya
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Anunya said:

I'd appreciate any help troubleshooting this... those packages won't deliver themselves! :)

If SLUTS was installed before the CTFO Patch you need to use some option in the MCM.  Forgot how I called it, reinitialize perhaps? Something like that; Thats to give the Drivers from CTFO the correct Flags oitherwise SLUTS wont recognize them and the "not a valid SLUTS Actor" Error happens

 

CTFO & Vanilla Actors are actually 2 different ones that just look 1:1 the same (Why ever someone would replace them), thats why just disabling CFTO & The patch doesnt do a thing - other than stripping the Flag from the Driver I guess

1 hour ago, Anunya said:

Re: the poll and male SLUTS, my preference is an MCM option that allows users to allow female, male,  or male & female SLUTS according to their preference. I personally don't think I want to see male SLUTS, but I'm sure some people do and I wouldn't want to deny them that pleasure.

Impossible, the Actors are hardcoded inside the esp. There is no MCM Option I can do here

 

If it really bothers people Id say remove the Male Variants later. By how things currently look the important SLUT that I absolutely want to be male will probably end up being male and 20~30% of the radiant ones will be too. If you really dont like that youll have to delete the male radiants & replace the male SLUT with a female one

Edited by Scrab
Posted

Maybe instead of an MCM option to enable/disable male sluts, an MCM option how skimpy / how much fetish gear they wear.

So you can disable seeing slongs if you don't wanna see it.

 

Would male sluts join anims in some way?

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Someone92 said:

Would male sluts join anims in some way?

If I need to use a radiant Slut for an Animation then yes since I dont know what kind of Radiant Slut you got in front of you during Runtime

The "1 unique male slut" definitely


and you will always see nude males in SLUTS. Warrick doesnt wear clothes after all. If someone absolutely cant stand the idea of a male doing something else than dominating a female then Id rather have them create a proper patch for SLUTS than bothering about trying to do some weird hacks to make usually hardcoded elements inside the esp modular

 

As for total number of NPC in SLUTS, and the way I want (and if the poll doesnt dramatically change will) implement gender division is:

Males

  • Yagdo
  • "Iron Skin" Warrick
  • 1 Unique Male Slut
  • Carriage Drivers (10 by default)
  • Brutus, Supervisor of the Titanium Mine
  • Luke, Supervisor of the Titanium Mine
  • <Alpha Prisoner> of the Titanium Mine
  • 2~3 Male Prisoners of the Titanium Mine
  • 20~30% Male Radiant SLUTS
  • Doorguard of SLUTS HQ

Females

  • "The Manager"
  • Lucy
  • Susy
  • Anette
  • Warricks 3 Girls
  • SLUT Portia
  • 1~2 more unique SLUTS
  • Leyla, Supervisor of the Titanium Mine
  • Old Lady of the Titanium Mines
  • 1~2 Female Prisoners of the Titanium Mine
  • 70~80% Female Radiant SLUTS

Id argue this is overall fairly balanced. There are more females than males, especially on the submissive side but the overall weighting towards one gender doesnt really exist

And in general; I dont really like the idea of completely catering towards one side. It makes the entire environment really monotone which is a 2nd major reason why I think having just a couple of male SLUTS is extremely beneficial to the overall atmosphere SLUTS represents. It creates a more natural & realistic environment that should fit better into the overall atmosphere of Skyrim as a whole

.. and I take from the Poll that a large majority agrees with me on this to a certain extend

 

 

Edited by Scrab
Posted
7 hours ago, Scrab said:

If SLUTS was installed before the CTFO Patch you need to use some option in the MCM.  Forgot how I called it, reinitialize perhaps? Something like that; Thats to give the Drivers from CTFO the correct Flags oitherwise SLUTS wont recognize them and the "not a valid SLUTS Actor" Error happens

 

CTFO & Vanilla Actors are actually 2 different ones that just look 1:1 the same (Why ever someone would replace them), thats why just disabling CFTO & The patch doesnt do a thing - other than stripping the Flag from the Driver I guess

Impossible, the Actors are hardcoded inside the esp. There is no MCM Option I can do here

 

Thanks for the help. I'll try finding the option in the MCM and trying that out.

 

Failing that I'll uninstall CFTO, the patch, and SLUTS and then reinstall them in this order: CFTO, patch, SLUTS.

 

But just to be 100% sure, to initiate courier jobs I talk to the regular carriage drivers in the regular spots, right? And if they're not there, something's wrong somewhere...?

 

7 hours ago, Scrab said:

 

If it really bothers people Id say remove the Male Variants later. By how things currently look the important SLUT that I absolutely want to be male will probably end up being male and 20~30% of the radiant ones will be too. If you really dont like that youll have to delete the male radiants & replace the male SLUT with a female one

 

It's your mod, so whatever you feel is the right thing :)

 

Like I said, I have a preference for fewer dominated males. And I'm sure there are some folks who would love it if it was all (or mostly) Boy-SLUTS. So if it's easy to get the replacer to work, great. And if it's not, them's the breaks. If someone cares deeply enough maybe it'll incentivize them to get into modding and write the patch.

Posted
8 hours ago, Anunya said:

So I started a new game and things now work, except there is no cart attached. I tried both with and without the extra cart file.

Does the Papyrus Log state something undesired?

Posted (edited)
On 10/25/2021 at 1:08 PM, Scrab said:

SLUTS.esp 1.32 MB · 8 downloads

 

Hey there,

 

its been a while, but I was playing some other game. Anyway, I tried this .esp and the cart does not spawn when I try to start a run. I can't spawn it even with the debug features.

 

I removed this esp and the cart spawned normally.

 

Peace,

M

Edited by monsta88
Posted
On 11/2/2021 at 2:08 PM, Scrab said:

If someone absolutely cant stand the idea of a male doing something else than dominating a female

My concern is that the mod forces you to watch such a scene. Would be a reason for me not to install a mod.

Posted
2 hours ago, monsta88 said:

I removed this esp and the cart spawned normally.

I remember updating my dev environment (the dev folder for the mod is massive now kek)

The path for the cart should be

\meshes\Sluts\furniture\prisonercarriage

 

Can you conform that this is the path your version is using - and if not move it there and see if that fixes the missing cart?

 

 

 

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Scrab said:

\meshes\Sluts\furniture\prisonercarriage

 

Nope. :)

 

As of v2.7: \meshes\furniture\prisonercarriage\

 

 

After the directory restructuring (\meshes\Sluts\furniture\prisonercarriage), the hotfix spawned the cart too.

 

 

Edited by monsta88
Posted

Okay, so having read through this mod's support pages I am distinctly interested in seeing where the quest leads even if pony courier is not necessarily how I imagine playing Skyrim.

For the record I absolutely endorse having male ponys and male subs. 

You clearly have a certain direction you want to take a mod and a particular story in mind so I say go for it. 

I do think this mod has the potential to offer something rare and valuable to Skyrim. A rare, immersive and lore friendly way to have loot sent home. I mean if you have people as courier ponys they can find you at whatever dungeon you dropped off your loot and if you have an evil corporation behind it you have a way to in universe pay for this service. Just a thought? Maybe later you could buy yopur own pony follower from the company?

Posted (edited)

Hi Scrab,

 

A little feedback about the Riften SS++ hotfix.

 

The transition from the SS++ auction to SLUTS works now, thank you for the fix.

 

There might be another issue though. I think Sigaar said that I need to collect Filly Coins to pay back the debt. The debt is 270000+ coins (it is set to Hard in MCM). However, the debt goes away by earned gold, so this means like 100+ succeful deliveries.

 

 

Peace,

M

Edited by monsta88
Posted
4 hours ago, monsta88 said:

The transition from the SS++ auction to SLUTS works now, thank you for the fix.

Good to know

 

Then issues are down by 1. Fyi, those are the things I currently know need fixing:

  • Set Up Scene is inconsistent and will need some slight tweaks & a fallback
  • Escrow Chest sometimes despawns
  • Page #40, Post #996

am I missing something else? I will probably try figuring those out after ScRappies is working

 

21 minutes ago, gurran said:

Hi, how do I get the boots to show?

Run Bodyslide

 

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, monsta88 said:

There might be another issue though. I think Sigaar said that I need to collect Filly Coins to pay back the debt. The debt is 270000+ coins (it is set to Hard in MCM). However, the debt goes away by earned gold, so this means like 100+ succeful deliveries.

 

A bit more info about this: it seems delivering does not decrease the debt.

However every 1 gold coin I find (for example the bodies on Bandits my follower kills) the debt goes down by 50. So if I find 10 gold, that is 500 debt minus.

 

Also a question: What happens if the character is working off debt and gets a bounty? Is there an option from the arresting guards to add that to the debt?

 

Edited by monsta88
Posted (edited)

Downloaded the mod, the mod, can't seem to get it to run past asking for a first haul, after the text window closes, I'm stuck in place the carriage driver walks off, but I'm left with the prompt to talk to him (although it doesn't work

 

 

Edited by Meepy6

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