KoolHndLuke Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, nonusnomeni said: shitface policy... Well, you put your shit out there on the wild, wild web and there's no tellin where or how it will end up. Think people would know that by now.
Bazinga Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, AKM said: Was having a conversation with a guy at the grocery store the other day about this COVID stuff, and sure enough, some dumbass (and not a young on, either), comes out, hears our topic of conversation and "Oh, it's 5G!". As soon as he was out of earshot (I think), I said to the dude I was talking to "Oh, look, there goes a nutter right there!" Goofy people. The government is out to get you, this time for real. ... This Covid lockdown is all just a cover-up for their sinister plan to kill us all and harvest our organs. You see, the reptiloid main fleet arrived last month and they are preparing the buffet. That's what this really is all about. They don't want us to resist so they isolate us from each other, harvesting one by one. That's what the helicopters are for. They are not bringing you to the hospital, you fools! I mean think about it! Suddenly it all makes sense. *Sigh* ... But I can understand that there are people in the US who say fuck it and want to get back to work. Seems like the promised unemployment benefits aren't paid out in a lot of cases, and these people have zero income but still need to pay rent and stuff. If only they would be honest about it instead of making ridiculous claims or downplaying this virus. In comparison we got it quite cozy here in Germany, at least so far.
KoolHndLuke Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bazinga said: You see, the reptiloid main fleet arrived last month and they are preparing the buffet. That's what this really is all about. Not fair! Nobody has shown up at my door to harvest my organ juice at all!
AKM Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Bazinga said: The government is out to get you, this time for real. Hey now, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!
Bazinga Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 9 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said: Not fair! Nobody has shown up at my door to harvest my organ juice at all! Sigh ... you are picturing sexy alien babes like in Ass Effect, aren't you? Please take this more sirius. Even if they are hot is it really worth losing your life?
MadMansGun Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bazinga said: Even if they are hot is it really worth losing your life? https://e621.net/posts/1359099? https://e621.net/posts/679485? https://e621.net/posts/2221384? ....maybe.
27X Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 11:06 AM, nonusnomeni said: business is business This isn't even business, this is just utter bullshit.
nonusnomeni Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 so everybody work on vaccine against COVID-19 Spoiler ultimate vaccine
AwfulArchdemon Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 I just wanna go out to eat with my mother. It has been a really long time since I was allowed to legally go out to eat food in a restaurant with my own mother. How sad is that. Mother's Day is coming up. It's coming up, and I can't make it special for her.
RitualClarity Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 10 hours ago, AwfulArchdemon said: I just wanna go out to eat with my mother. It has been a really long time since I was allowed to legally go out to eat food in a restaurant with my own mother. How sad is that. Mother's Day is coming up. It's coming up, and I can't make it special for her. In many places restaurants are open for take out. Order your food, bring it home (distracting her for the moment) and setup the table ... she will be impressed and appreciate your efforts and understand that you and her can't go out. Also don't forget the flowers
Guest Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 https://www.sott.net/article/432489-The-elites-are-already-prepared-and-have-a-plan-for-the-coming-collapse-of-the-dollar-bubble
Asura Scorpion Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 8:01 PM, ToJKa said: In my country the capital and surrounding area are going to be quarantined today. Many other restrictions are in place, such that have not been used since our wars against USSR. When the existence of the nation was at risk. Nearly 1000 people died in Italy alone today. Spain has to stop giving ICU treatment to 60 year olds due to the number of young patients. Satellite images have revealed mass graves in Iran. Most western countries have not yet hit the worst of it. Even after this virus is contained, recovery for the world will take years. Financially and otherwise. I'd say this is as close as any of us is going to see in our lifetimes. Our government is so corrupt that the fascist oposition is starting to make sense. Viva Vox!
wpg97541 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Asura Scorpion said: This is from December prior to the breakout, EVENT 201 was hosted by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, look into it, they KNEW. There are so many lies/disinformation in the nonsense you spewed above, I don't even know where to start. You spreading fake news on a forum is not helping anybody. EDIT: Thank goodness, somebody removed the post.
Darkpig Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 6:21 AM, AwfulArchdemon said: I just wanna go out to eat with my mother. It has been a really long time since I was allowed to legally go out to eat food in a restaurant with my own mother. How sad is that. Mother's Day is coming up. It's coming up, and I can't make it special for her. On 4/27/2020 at 5:13 PM, RitualClarity said: In many places restaurants are open for take out. Order your food, bring it home (distracting her for the moment) and setup the table ... she will be impressed and appreciate your efforts and understand that you and her can't go out. Also don't forget the flowers Forget the flowers ? Mother's day is overrated corporate bullshit. Even the founder agrees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Jarvis
Kendo 2 Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 Evidently Youtube is now censoring FCC certified broadcast news organizations. The video I posted was from KXTV, the ABC affiliate in Sacramento CA. It's now gone for violating Youtube's 'terms of service'. ? On 4/27/2020 at 9:59 PM, Kendo 2 said: Medical doctors call out the bullshit.
Asura Scorpion Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 10 hours ago, wpg97541 said: There are so many lies/disinformation in the nonsense you spewed above, I don't even know where to start. You spreading fake news on a forum is not helping anybody. EDIT: Thank goodness, somebody removed the post. By the looks of it what you're trying to express is "thank goodness my post was gulaged." So much for freedom of speech and reasoned argument these days... If you're so adamant that what I said is "fake news" then why don't you counter-argument it instead of throwing around blanket statements? Go verify the date, verify who uploaded it, and why event 201 held place, before running hurtful accusations with no due process. Of course no notice from any moderator, therefore there's no justification why my post got gulaged. Do you want to know why there is no justification? Because it's unjustifiable. It's "pre-emptive" censorship. Quite telling of the paranoid culture of fear we live in.
wpg97541 Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, Asura Scorpion said: Surely what you're actually trying to say is thank goodness my post was gulaged. So much for freedom of speech and reasoned argument these days... If you're so adamant that what I said is "fake news" then why don't you counter-argument it instead of throwing around blanket statements? Go verify the date, verify who uploaded it, and why event 201 held place, before running hurtful accusations with no due process. Of course no notice from any mod, meaning there's no justification why my post got gulaged, that's because nothing of what I said is against any rules. So why is censorship so gratuiteously applied in a pre-emptive manner, what could possibly go wrong if my post didn't get gulaged? Isn't that very telling of the culture of fear we live in? Your post wasn't reasoned argument. I can completely dispute almost all of what you said. First, Bill Gates has been raising the alarm about possible virus pandemics for many years, not just this year. The fact that it finally happened as he has been warning for years should not be seen as him having some secret advance knowledge. Imagine, if you will, a worker at a factory, who sees that a potentially dangerous machine has been unserviced for years. He complains to the manager that the machine is at some point going to fail and cause injury or death to a worker unless it is serviced. The manager maybe ignores him or tells him it will be serviced in a few more years when they can afford it. But the worker is really worried about this, and so he goes the labour board, and they drag their heels in addressing it. Shortly after, suppose the machine does fail and kills someone. From your attitude, you would have the worker at the factory who sounded the alarm thrown in jail or executed for having sounded the alarm. Does that seem logical to you? Regarding China - I will not defend their conduct in trying to cover up the virus early on. I am certainly not a fan of China or communism in any way, and am completely opposed to both. However, your argument that they have created the virus as an artificial bioweapon is really lacking in support. First, scientists have said from study of the virus that there are certain markers that show up in artificially created viruses, and this virus does not show any of those. Instead it shows all the signs of a naturally occurring virus. It is therefore highly unlikely to be artificial, unless China's bio-technology is so amazingly good that they could artificially create such a virus that would show absolutely no signs of artificial creation. China's "wet markets" are almost certainly to blame for this entire thing, since they introduce various wild animals in cages in a single area where they are highly stressed, and these stresses are highly likely to weaken their immune systems. It is also not surprising that this virus comes from bats, because bats have some of the most powerful immune systems of all known animals, and so viruses have adapted to the strong immune system of bats such that they become faster at reproducing and stronger than all other viruses, otherwise, the immune system of bats would eradicate them immediately. If these viruses spread to human populations, the immune systems of human beings are substantially weaker than the immune systems of bats, and so they wreak havoc there. There is no "stronger" strain of the coronavirus and no "weaker" strain. Doctors have clearly stated that even though there are slightly different strains in different regions, they are really no different from one another in terms of the effect they have on human beings. The differences between the deadliness of the virus can instead be entirely explained by the immune systems of those the viruses hit. Is it remotely possible that this virus escaped from a Chinese lab? Certainly. But, consider Hanlon's Razor - "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." It is highly unlikely that they released this on purpose. Why would they risk the lives of their own people and themselves? Instead, lets consider Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is almost always true. The simplest explanation here is that the virus bred in a bat and passed to a pangolin, and moved from there into a human being, and was unrelated to any laboratory that happened to be nearby. I know when bad things like this happen, it is tempting to find something to blame. It is incredibly tempting to try to find excuses for horrible things that happen in the world, to try to find other things to blame, and that is why conspiracy theories have grown such a following. Certain major disasters, like enormous floods or major virus pandemics occur only about once or twice a century. The natural human reaction is to see that and wonder "why did it only happen this year and not others - oh I bet it is bad guy XYZ" and that is how conspiracy theories are born. Pandemics are one of those things - a major pandemic only occurs a few times a century. You seem to believe that we could only be hit by such a serious pandemic if it was created by some foreign power of malicious intent. But what about the Spanish Flu that hit in 1918? That infection led to similar social distancing we are experiencing now. I suppose you think that the 1918 Spanish Flu was also a Chinese bio-weapon in co-operation with Bill Gates? What about the black death of the middle ages - I suppose Bill Gates and China were also responsible for that? I suppose you might also think that Bill Gates and China were also responsible for the mass extinction event that killed off the dinosaurs? But no, I'm fairly sure you don't think any of those things (at least I hope you don't!) but my point is that certain natural disasters will happen randomly. The world seems more frightening if natural disasters happen randomly, when we don't expect, but that is unfortunately normally the way things happen. You or I or anybody else can be going along one day and boom, car crash, dead. The reason why conspiracy theories are so popular is that they give you some reason to believe that the world isn't random, that you have some control over stopping bad things from happening, but it just isn't true. But really, if a hurricane comes, you can't stop it, if a major flood comes, you can't stop it, if an earthquake comes, you can't stop it. All you can do is prepare the best you can based on the risks. That is the unfortunate and real truth. What we are going through right now is hell, really. Nobody wants it. Everybody wants it to be over. Furthering certain conspiracy theories to create scapegoats might help you feel better, like there is more order and predictability in the world, but don't help anybody else.
Asura Scorpion Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 Lengthy metaphor there, but I will suspend my disbelief for a moment whilst I go over it. So I understood where you are going for, but no matter how hard I try to interpret it in the strongest way possible, I understand that even if I was convinced entirely by your metaphor, it would still remain a comparison based on a hypothetical situation, that alone by my standards is not conclusive enough. Besides I find one fault in your comparison to be quite interesting, in this role reversal of Bill Gates and the factory manager… We ignore the real life fact that Bill Gates is not a worker, some manager, or the director even, of some factory… He’s a powerful billionaire and chairman of several of the worlds most influential organizations. And before you address what attitude I would have in your parable, make sure you don’t let yourself get too carried away fantasizing, since you don’t really have my position on what choices I would make in such scenario, so from what it seems, you fabricated an entirely false and hollow premise and took it quite far for nothing. Whilst you’re trying to get me to agree with you on the point that the story sounds illogical, realize that it is as if you made something silly with play-doh, then pointed at it and asked me if I agree with you that it’s silly, I’ll have to be charitable and agree that it is silly, you’ve put your own effort to make it so. So now that you got me to agree to something entirely inconsequential, lets continue. ________________________________________________________________________________________________“However, your argument that they have created the virus as an artificial bioweapon is really lacking in support.” Hold up, what I said is that these people ate all kinds of game and bush meat for thousands of years already, and may I add to my statement, that their history of eating animals was not so different from the rest of the world during a long period of civilization. I followed up my statement by denying my belief in that the outbreak would occur in the vicinity of an important instute of virology as a matter of pure coincidence. The lab was known to have been handling exotic microbes and deadly pathogens for quite some time now and that attention was drawn to the many risks of a viral outbreak before, it also turns out that in all of China there is only one level 4 microbiology lab equipped to handle deadly pathogens and this one is located in the Chinese city of Wuhan that just happens to be … The epicenter of the epidemic. I will send in attachments a paper issued by the WHO with all the BSL-4 labs in the world. Whilst we still don’t know for sure because some evidence is missing or inconclusive, I don’t believe that we should drop our suspicion or scrutiny just yet. Based on several statements of Xi and the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology following the incident, we have also strong reasons to be extra suspicious of what happened, because “A national system to control biosecurity risks must be put in place “to protect the people’s health,” Xi said, because lab safety is a “national security” issue”. What about the latest directive released called ““Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”? So with statements issued like these following the incident, lets not forget that the only possible BSL-4 laboratory in China that they are adressing is in Wuhuan.“First, scientists have said from study of the virus that there are certain markers that show up in artificially created viruses, and this virus does not show any of those. Instead it shows all the signs of a naturally occurring virus.” Well I’d certainly love to know what scientists said that, and what methodology they used, because currently it is very difficult to trace such markers on a rapidly mutating RNA virus like the novel Coronavirus, in fact it’s one of the major traits of this virus…“It is therefore highly unlikely to be artificial, unless China's bio-technology is so amazingly good that they could artificially create such a virus that would show absolutely no signs of artificial creation.” Or we might not be humble enough to believe that our current testing methods do not live up to the occasion, which is currently another reason for the high death toll. “There is no "stronger" strain of the coronavirus and no "weaker" strain. Doctors have clearly stated that even though there are slightly different strains in different regions, they are really no different from one another in terms of the effect they have on human beings. The differences between the deadliness of the virus can instead be entirely explained by the immune systems of those the viruses hit. “ Whilst the effect on the human organism is the same, it doesn’t mean that they respond the same to treatment. “Is it remotely possible that this virus escaped from a Chinese lab? Certainly. But, consider Hanlon's Razor - "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Beside malice and stupidty, there are a variety of other reasons we may attribute this outbreak to, lets not forget we live in a world where systems fail and collapse, where billion dollar space programs end up in catastrophe, and so on…“It is highly unlikely that they released this on purpose. Why would they risk the lives of their own people and themselves? “ That was never my claim, someone else perhaps has this idea, I certainly think it’s an incident but everyone is free to believe whatever they wish. I do however think that China deserves big part of the blame for their handling of the outbreak and their lies. Just because we’re in the same boat doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t judge or that it’s not the time to point fingers. If someone in your crew fucks up or misbehaves, you don’t just let it slide because you’re at sea together. “Instead, lets consider Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is almost always true. “ Almost always doesn’t apply when that's not the case. And certainly we shouldn't always settle for the simplest explanation, in fact if we did we would still believe in a flat Earth.“The simplest explanation here is that the virus bred in a bat and passed to a pangolin, and moved from there into a human being, and was unrelated to any laboratory that happened to be nearby. “ This in fact seems like an awful lot of extra steps there compared to the fact that Chinas only BSL-4 laboratory happens to be in Wuhuan, the epicenter of the outbreak, and that the virus may have originated there rather than the wet market. “I bet it is bad guy XYZ" and that is how conspiracy theories are born. “ Well that’s dismissive of the investigative efforts of hundreds of independent journalists and truth seekers that have contributed an enormous wealth of leaks and information that were true, as well as dismissive of the fact that we throw the world conspiracy theory around so gratuitously that many so called conspiracy theories are now turning out to be true, guess they weren’t conspiracy theories afterall, just that the word conspiracy theory floats around a bit too much lately… “I suppose you think that the 1918 Spanish Flu was also a Chinese bio-weapon in co-operation with Bill Gates? What about the black death of the middle ages - I suppose Bill Gates and China were also responsible for that? I suppose you might also think that Bill Gates and China were also responsible for the mass extinction event that killed off the dinosaurs?” Another strawman another dollar, soon I’ll buy me a beautiful beachfront mansion with all that money. ...Ok I actually realised you hope I don't think this way, but why say these statements?“The reason why conspiracy theories are so popular is that they give you some reason to believe that the world isn't random, that you have some control over stopping bad things from happening” I wonder if you used the same standard in criminology, whereby we don’t need to investigate suspected murderers or rapists, because accusations are deemed scapegoating, or considered a warm and cosy “safety blanket” to make us think we have control. What purpose do accusations hold other than pure feel goodery? It’s not like closing a criminal case had any real life importance, right? And ofcourse lets ignore completely the actual bullshit state of mainstream media and their fake news, creating the demand for conspiracy theories and counter culture. It's about news adopting normie optics and narratives rather than being informative more than anything nowadays, so for the people who realise that they are lied to, what choice do they have but to seek other means of information?“ But really, if a hurricane comes, you can't stop it, if a major flood comes, you can't stop it, if an earthquake comes, you can't stop it. All you can do is prepare the best you can based on the risks.” Even if death is almost certain doesn’t mean struggle is meaningless.“ What we are going through right now is hell, really. Nobody wants it. Everybody wants it to be over.” Except it’s the bankers wet dream, another market crash… Personally I don't really care much nor can I call this hell, I've lived in preparation for moments like these... I'm self reliable, and I enjoy the lockdown, life was prison most of my life, the modern world can burn for all I care... If you ask me, I don't care if it's gonna be over next month or in three years. For me hell is what will come soon after society bends its knee to their "saviours", big government with socialist production, ID2020 and microchipping. You’re not gonna tell me certain people are not going to benefit greatly from it.“Furthering certain conspiracy theories to create scapegoats might help you feel better, like there is more order and predictability in the world, but don't help anybody else.” Depends, that would be like saying that we blame China for no reason at all, just to feel good about ourselves and have a scapegoat... I strongly accuse China, but that doesn't make me feel better, I would feel good if there was no reason to blame China. If I didn't have to think about ID2020 or Event 201, or that the world has crossed the rubicon toward the erosion of civil rights and liberties on its way to technocratic regime... This is a Silicon Valley wet dream, to enter a technological communist utopia... WHO-WHE-CPI-2018.40-eng.pdf
Asura Scorpion Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 What are you rambling about? China may be wealthy, because they have a market economy, they still have party rule though. How is it relevant wether China is Communist or Capitalist anyway? We're not discussing a means of production or system of distrubution of wealth... We're discussing the origin of the novel Coronavirus... Ok imagine the Coronavirus outbreak happened in USA, nearby a USA instute of virology... Imagine the news then, it would be all "Orange man bad" and "USA is the evil of the world", "Capitalism sucks", "Bioterrorism" and all sorts of similar headlines... And everyone would be talking about accountability, impeachment, and blame, and whatnot... And trust me, blaming rednecks for eating roadkill or crocodiles won't slide as a cover-up story. The above statement is undeniable, you can't reason with that, that's literally what would happen. China is treated different however, western mainstream media demands solidarity, and compassion and understanding... Nevermind the fact they have concentration camps for Muslims over there, or that they censor the hell out of everything or have a social credit score system straight out of black mirror.
Guest Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 Governments are trying to win people through tiredness. Those who didnt believe the hoax before, will believe it now, because they want to go back to their old lives. Not my case, though, as I'm into social isolation for many years, so I can keep hammering the same buttom: the pandemic is a hoax all over. And I'm not going to write a wall of text. Do your own research. There are scientific papers proving the connection between lack of oxygen and the 60gHz frequency. There is also proof of a financial takeover by big corporations (this is the main reason for the lockdowns, break small and medium businesses), nanochips acting as 5G transmitters and their use in pills and vaccines, the vaccinations for SARS of the chinese and italian populations (prior to the outbreak), half-million children paralyzed in India by Bill Gates vaccines, there is a lot of stuff to read. So much that this entire debate is more a matter of faith than a matter of fact. You are debating with people who treat "science" (in the way it is portrayed by the media) as a religion. But who defines medical "science"? The WHO, which is involved in several corruption schemes.
Nexussuckstwice Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/books/The Demon-Haunted World.pdf https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231/
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