SexLab Confabulation (September 16, 2020)

[preserotri]

is there some way to e.g. in xedit to forward some kind of dialogue or package to mod-added creature followers to make it compatible with confab?

[Narcolepsy]

1 hour ago, ptmc2112 said:

Possible suggestion: adding some SLEN integration, similar to how SexLab Solutions - Revisited did (though probably exclude beastiality, with possible exception for werewolves cause companions) my reason is for the dark brotherhood contracts and the Ebony Blade (especially if combined with mods like Ebony Blade enchantment Replacer or Ebony Blade Stat Growth Expansion that modify how many betrayal kills it takes to max the Ebony Blade)

 

EDIT: just using SLEN to increase relationship rank before getting the contract, I couldn't use the backstab animation(probably cause Ebony Blade is 2 handed), and used unarmed instead

I'm not certain what exactly the SLEN integration does?

 

1 hour ago, preserotri said:

is there some way to e.g. in xedit to forward some kind of dialogue or package to mod-added creature followers to make it compatible with confab?

What kind of creature follower are you trying to use and for what dialogues/options?

[preserotri]

54 minutes ago, Narcolepsy said:

I'm not certain what exactly the SLEN integration does?

 

What kind of creature follower are you trying to use and for what dialogues/options?

 

i found a dog/husky with a custom race from winterhold restored and bear mounts from a follower mod

[ptmc2112]

17 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

I'm not certain what exactly the SLEN integration does?

As far as I can tell, SexLab Solutions Revisited uses it to change the vanilla relationship rank of the one the player has sex with, and add one to the total relationship rank changes that SLEN keeps track of.

 

It does this without requiring a hard dependency by using 2 functions (not sure if the functions are part of the base game or SKSE, but they do their job)

Game.GetModByName("SexLab Eager NPCs.esp")
Game.GetFormFromFile(0xD62, "SexLab Eager NPCs.esp") as quest

(on the 1st one, it always returns 255 if the mod is NOT loaded in the load order of the game)(the 2nd one the 0xD62 is the last 6 digits of the FormID (minus the zeroes to the left) of the quest with the EditorID of SLENMainControllerQuest, and the "as quest" part converts the output of the function (which returns the FormID of the quest itself (causes a crash (pretty sure it does) if called when the mod isn't actually loaded)) to a Quest variable, which can then be stored in any Quest variable of your choice, and used as if the mod is part of the masters of confab)

 

Sorry if all this seems like a big run-on sentence.

 

SLEN also adds in sex with trainers, depending on the MCM setting, to either train an extra level every 6 hours, or get back some money from training. Also some other stuff, all of which is in the MCM.

Edited June 8, 2021 by ptmc2112

[marymuir2]

Sorry  to complain, mate, but I tried out the Sanguine quest sex scenes, and was disappointed to find them so lackluster, especially in terms of the dialogue.  Shouldn't Sam/Sanguine tease the DB more, taunt her a little, get playfully rough/kinky or try to make her beg?  Something a bit more than - hey, want to have sex, sure, then random sexlab scene.  Doesn't have to be completely voiced either. 

 

I have the same issue with the party in Misty Grove. Man that is one pathetic group of partiers, no one seems to be having fun, no flirting comments, no rowdiness, just -want to have sex, yeah sure, random sexlab scene. 

 

I really love the idea of Sam/Sanguine messing with the DB; I think he should go even further, dare her to seduce someone or strip in the middle of the Bannered Mare (inciting an orgy when she does), masturbate using the plain end of the Rose (and then summoning the dremora to have sex with her when she does), stuff like that.  As it is, the debauchery just doesn't have any oomph.  But a lot of what it needs is just some saucy dialogue, and maybe one or two more sex scenes.

 

and for future development, Sanguine should give the DB special quests to do for him, where she uses those sex skills of hers.   Maybe she has to entice Tullius, Ulfric, Baalgruff, Rikke and Galmar into an orgy to get the truce, rather than those awful negotiations at High Hrothgar.

 

Maybe at the Thalmor Embassy she has to seduce Elenwyn or Ondolemar, and they take her to the solar for sex and then fall asleep after?

 

I would really love to see this developed further, I love the idea, I've played Sexlab Solutions but it got old, seemed mostly about using sex to pay.  What you've done with the thieve's guild, where the sex is part of training the thief how to use sex to distract the mark, that's way more fun, and it allows for having sex as an option for how to pickpocket someone later on.  Maybe there can be scenes later on where the thief is trying to pickpocket, and distracting the mark by rubbing up against him and soliciting him, only to have things go further than planned and the thief has to actually have sex with the mark (who may turn out to be kinky/rough/slaver) and can't just run away.

 

It just makes it more immersive in a strange kinky way.

[Narcolepsy]

56 minutes ago, marymuir2 said:

Sorry  to complain, mate, but I tried out the Sanguine quest sex scenes, and was disappointed to find them so lackluster, especially in terms of the dialogue.  Shouldn't Sam/Sanguine tease the DB more, taunt her a little, get playfully rough/kinky or try to make her beg?  Something a bit more than - hey, want to have sex, sure, then random sexlab scene.  Doesn't have to be completely voiced either. 

 

I have the same issue with the party in Misty Grove. Man that is one pathetic group of partiers, no one seems to be having fun, no flirting comments, no rowdiness, just -want to have sex, yeah sure, random sexlab scene. 

 

I really love the idea of Sam/Sanguine messing with the DB; I think he should go even further, dare her to seduce someone or strip in the middle of the Bannered Mare (inciting an orgy when she does), masturbate using the plain end of the Rose (and then summoning the dremora to have sex with her when she does), stuff like that.  As it is, the debauchery just doesn't have any oomph.  But a lot of what it needs is just some saucy dialogue, and maybe one or two more sex scenes.

 

and for future development, Sanguine should give the DB special quests to do for him, where she uses those sex skills of hers.   Maybe she has to entice Tullius, Ulfric, Baalgruff, Rikke and Galmar into an orgy to get the truce, rather than those awful negotiations at High Hrothgar.

 

Maybe at the Thalmor Embassy she has to seduce Elenwyn or Ondolemar, and they take her to the solar for sex and then fall asleep after?

 

I would really love to see this developed further, I love the idea, I've played Sexlab Solutions but it got old, seemed mostly about using sex to pay.  What you've done with the thieve's guild, where the sex is part of training the thief how to use sex to distract the mark, that's way more fun, and it allows for having sex as an option for how to pickpocket someone later on.  Maybe there can be scenes later on where the thief is trying to pickpocket, and distracting the mark by rubbing up against him and soliciting him, only to have things go further than planned and the thief has to actually have sex with the mark (who may turn out to be kinky/rough/slaver) and can't just run away.

 

It just makes it more immersive in a strange kinky way.

 

The daedric quests were written very early in the mods life when I was still learning how to start sex with SexLab. At that time, the most I could really do was start sex via a dialogue line. As you can tell, I can do a lot more now with what I know and the Sanguine questline will definitely get a rework at some point to be more involved with the player. 

[Mehmeme]

On 6/5/2021 at 8:44 PM, Narcolepsy said:

Next update is coming along. Been busy with RL as usual but I am getting closer to finishing. No planned release date though, just to avoid setting up expectations and then failing them again.

Not asking for a certain date, but would you say it will come in days/weeks/months? So, could you give a general timeframe? Or is it hard to say?

 

Not trying to be annoying, I just would like to know since this is one of my favorite mods on here.

[johnmcderp]

On 6/6/2021 at 2:44 AM, Narcolepsy said:

As Mehmeme suggested you most likely are missing a 5p animation which is needed to progress through that scene. Billyy has at least one, and I think Funnybiz has a few.

 

That's weird, I have both Billy's and FunnyBiz's anims and verified them working thru Defeat. Anyway, a similar issue seems to arise with the Sibbi quest. After the initial fellatio scene Sibbi just stands there with his mouth open. Seems to be the same issue with the bandits in the earlier quest I think. Also not sure if it's related, but do you think this could be some sort of conflict with the SL Separate Orgasms mod?

[Mehmeme]

5 minutes ago, johnmcderp said:

That's weird, I have both Billy's and FunnyBiz's anims and verified them working thru Defeat. Anyway, a similar issue seems to arise with the Sibbi quest. After the initial fellatio scene Sibbi just stands there with his mouth open. Seems to be the same issue with the bandits in the earlier quest I think. Also not sure if it's related, but do you think this could be some sort of conflict with the SL Separate Orgasms mod?

I also use Seperate Orgasms but both scenes worked for me. Did you properly register all animations? I think you need Sexlab Animation Loader, at least for FunnyBiz Animations. Did you enable and register them in there?

[Anunya]

Can someone outline the expected behaviour for Confabulation for the Thieves Guild and at Goldenglow?

 

I haven't seen anything noteworthy there yet and I think I probably have something off in my setup... but it's hard to test for if I don't know what I'm looking for

[Narcolepsy]

On 6/12/2021 at 5:33 PM, Mehmeme said:

Not asking for a certain date, but would you say it will come in days/weeks/months? So, could you give a general timeframe? Or is it hard to say?

 

Not trying to be annoying, I just would like to know since this is one of my favorite mods on here.

End of July, August maybe? No concrete date though. If I get enough time off from work I can get it done sooner.

 

6 hours ago, johnmcderp said:

That's weird, I have both Billy's and FunnyBiz's anims and verified them working thru Defeat. Anyway, a similar issue seems to arise with the Sibbi quest. After the initial fellatio scene Sibbi just stands there with his mouth open. Seems to be the same issue with the bandits in the earlier quest I think. Also not sure if it's related, but do you think this could be some sort of conflict with the SL Separate Orgasms mod?

Is the 5p animation registered and showing up in the SexLab animation list? Also Sibbi's quest might get stuck, in which case you can use the console command "Set SC_MJCounter to 1" and increment the number until the scene starts again.

 

4 hours ago, Anunya said:

Can someone outline the expected behaviour for Confabulation for the Thieves Guild and at Goldenglow?

 

I haven't seen anything noteworthy there yet and I think I probably have something off in my setup... but it's hard to test for if I don't know what I'm looking for

After you've joined the Theives Guild and started the sex training with Vex/Delvin, Vex will have a new dialogue branch when you ask her about the Goldenglow job. She'll mention that you can infiltrate as a prostitute, which you can agree or disagree too. Agree, and you should be able to walk into Goldenglow and be approached by the mercs there.

[Anunya]

3 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

After you've joined the Theives Guild and started the sex training with Vex/Delvin, Vex will have a new dialogue branch when you ask her about the Goldenglow job. She'll mention that you can infiltrate as a prostitute, which you can agree or disagree too. Agree, and you should be able to walk into Goldenglow and be approached by the mercs there.

 

That's the bit I missed. Starting the sex training with Vex/ Delvin. My current playthrough would've gone very differently if I'd realized that was what that dialogue option represented

 

Thank you!

Edited June 15, 2021 by Anunya

[Anunya]

... and does the Thieves Guild Cum Dump thing follow after Golden Glow?

[Naps-On-Dirt]

17 minutes ago, Anunya said:

... and does the Thieves Guild Cum Dump thing follow after Golden Glow?

No, you can become the cum dump after you complete the Honningbrew Meadery quest for Maven.  I can't remember the name of the quest.... wait, Dampened Spirits, I believe it is.  You have to talk to Vex to do it.

Edited June 17, 2021 by Naps-On-Dirt

[Anunya]

41 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

No, you can become the cum dump after you complete the Honningbrew Meadery quest for Maven.  I can't remember the name of the quest.... wait, Dampened Spirits, I believe it is.  You have to talk to Vex to do it.

 

Thanks!

[Anunya]

I'm still having a hard time (or rather, my character is not having a hard time... ahem) with the Goldenglow Quest. My character spoke to Vex, who said my character should walk through the front door and pretend to be a prostitute. Be careful. My character agreed to try that.

 

I run her out to the Goldenglow Estate and the front gate is unlocked, but the guards attack my character on sight. I've tried a few different things (be sneaking, be naked), but no matter what the guards just attack.

 

Am I suppose to do something particular to trigger the forcegreet? I was under the impression it was going to happen once the guard spots the PC.

 

EDIT: oh I think I know why it's not working... I tried the quest, got caught and kicked out (via defeat mod), so the guards are probably already hostile even if I activate the prostitution version of the quest via conversation to Vex.

Edited June 18, 2021 by Anunya

[Veldon]

On 6/18/2021 at 1:44 AM, Anunya said:

EDIT: oh I think I know why it's not working... I tried the quest, got caught and kicked out (via defeat mod), so the guards are probably already hostile even if I activate the prostitution version of the quest via conversation to Vex.

Yes. You can only do it, if you haven't been there before (or at least were not detected).

[Oroborus]

On 6/12/2021 at 8:45 AM, Narcolepsy said:

Sanguine questline will definitely get a rework at some point to be more involved with the player.

 

Night to remember is not bad, i like it, but the only thing that is missing -  gender specified dialogs. Makes us better involved. 

 

Now would be good to cover more daedric quests: Sheogorath, Namira, Boethia.

 

And aedric quests also open great opportunities, so you have a choice. 

[Oroborus]

Some ideas for future work, additional quests and mini-quests.

 

1. The fertility ritual.

 

Farmers after question about job will suggest PC to copulate with goat.

 

They believe it helps to collect more harvest, the reward is humble - 10 coins.

 

2. Distracted hunter's dog.

 

After question "is your dog really helpfull in hunting?" hunter complaining and PC suggests to take off dog's tension and reward is special - deer's furl.

 

3. After The Blessings of Nature quest, Danika gives the mission to esteem Kinareth and PC needs to mate with elk/deer in the Eldergleam Sanctuary. The reward +1 restoration.

 

4. In case if PC killed Sinding, PC gets the blessing of lord Hircine (+ 1 sneak ) by mating the bear. 

 

5. Creating love machine.

 

After quest Lost expedition Calcelmo needs to check his investigations about dwemer's birth control using centurions, spheres and spiders as sexbots. PC gets soul stones when job is done.

[Shahariel]

I have a question to all experienced modders here: Is there a chance to create patches for the mods  Destroy the Thieves Guild and/or Destroy the Dark Brotherhood - Enhanced for those players who don't want to follow these quest lines ? Or could it be possible to shut unwanted quest lines off in the MCM?

I do not want to give the impression in any way that I do not like what great work Narcolepsy has done here, on the contrary - but I am sure I'm not the only one not wanting to join every guild, and the vanilla options of not joining - meaning  having Brynjolf following you around Riften or stating you are not THAT kind of person to steal from others , or having to work with the Penitus Oculatus without having the chance to get the REAL loot (or joined the Stormcloaks...) - are not that satisfying. Especially when you are constantly harrassed by travelling thieves or assassins and really work up a grudge....

If that is not possible or too much work to do, that's fine, too

 

[Oroborus]

And some quest situations, missed in SS.

 

1. Nilheim and Telrav's request.

 

Similar as Kematu solution  -  PC offers sex and no one is going to die.

 

2. Christer should be comforted after being told about Fjola (no matter is she really dead or not)  

Edited July 13, 2021 by Oroborus

[xyzxyz]

Can you give us a preview of the changes/new content? I remember winterhold college questline, some works on the companions (male player as werewolf?) and what else?

[shiagwen]

Summer Holidays ?

[VahzahVulom]

any news?

[Hightower4589]

How exactly do you unlock the ability to seduce thieves guild marks? I got the dialogue option to practice on them and i did that a few times on delvin and vex, but the pickpocket marks don't have any dialogue option to seduce them. Do I need to keep practicing on thieves guild members until it unlocks the ability?

 

EDIT: Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul was loaded after Confabulation and made an edit to the shill job quest. I found that out by looking for conflicts in SSEedit. I moved Confab after CFTO.esp, dropped the quest and took a new one, everything works fine now.

Edited August 19, 2021 by Hightower4589