Troubles of Heroine

[spicy meme l0rd]

is the skeever queen quest complete-able? i picked up everything in the basement but quest has not updated and cant talk to serpent about it either...

[Ds4nch3z]

On 4/18/2020 at 1:05 AM, Lupine00 said:

I haven't played this line, but it would be great if you could be sent to Ulfric to serve him as a special privilege for you.

 

You're so lucky, you can directly serve the Great Ulfric!!!

 

First he has sex with you, but he's disgusted with your performance and says you are only fit to use as a toilet.

You can choose to be happy with this and continue doing it, or get angry.

 

Maybe you can duel and beat him after you get angry, and then he respects you ... just a little ... but still says he went easy on you because you are a woman. No woman could really beat him!

 

If you keep serving Ulfric submissively, it could become a bit like Bruiser, except with everyone telling you how lucky you are to have Ulfric show you so much attention.

Maybe you can integrate Serpent into this part and make it part of the main quest:

 

Serpent is an old war mage so a story can be added where he knows Ulfric and Galmar from the war. You are given a letter of introduction from Serpent on which is written that you are Serpents cum dumpster and other humiliating things and that you are there to help Ulfric in his rebellion as a gift from his old friend. In the letter Ulfric is also told that you are the to be humiliated used and abused at every turn during the rebellion because you liked the empire and the thalmor before and you want and need to be punished at every turn as repentance.

 

Maybe you are forced to fight naked or in partial bondage gear during the missions with humiliating and abusive dialogues like "Remove your armor cumbucket, you will fight naked for us to distract the enemy and to entertain us. We'll reward you after with what sluts like you deserve" or some such

 

Every time you complete a mission for the stormcloaks the DB is forced into humiliating, abusive events by ulfric and the rest of the stormcloaks who celebrate by humiliating and abusing the dragon born, and you have dialogues like with brute where you can refuse, accept, etc etc and as the war progresses you can lose your dignity making it worse. At the end of the quest line you can get a title like "StormCunt". Maybe add an option where you can slowly convince Ulfric and the rest that you are forgiven for your past or where they only see you as the cumbucket that deserves it depending on your dignity.

 

The same dialogues can be used if you decide to join the empire replacing Ulfric/Galmar with General Tullius instead. You are to be humiliated and abused at every turn for siding with the stormcloaks in the past. If you decide to join the legion maybe Serpent suggests in the letter to General Tullius to introduce you to artano as well to make sure the thalmor can punish you as well and tie in the Artano quest line to the main quest line

 

It would be cool to integrate the guild as well into sending the DB into the rest of the guilds like thieves, dark brother etc to be humiliated and abused. Serpent as a powerful Old mage has many connections which he utilizes to torture the DB.

 

On 4/18/2020 at 12:26 AM, DSHV said:

endings:

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• Submission - The hostage is released, but sees the degree of the heroine's fall and is disgusted by it. 
• Good End - PC do not give up and looking for hostage (ineffectually), researchs who the Serpent is and with a help of this knowledge she release the hostages. 
• Bad End - PC bore Serpent and he kills the hostage and sets PC up.
• Oh, and to kill Serpent and don’t save the hostage is always available. I guess, it can be called Straightforward ending.

For the Submission End I think it would be a good idea to make it so that the hostage is released and after seeing the degree of the heroine's fall and is disgusted by it they decide to take out their rage and feelings of betrayal on the DB. Serpent makes the DB beg their former love to join the guild and abuse and humiliate them. Your lover now hates the DB for failing and breaking and decides to join the guild to humiliate and torture of the DB and finalizing the DB's downfall completely.

 

Maybe have it so that serpent can say "my life has finally ended well and i can pass on my legacy to you" and makes your loved one their heir to continue your humiliation and abuse after serpent passes away in the ultimate fall ending

[Lupine00]

On 4/19/2020 at 4:05 PM, Ds4nch3z said:

If you keep serving Ulfric submissively, it could become a bit like Bruiser, except with everyone telling you how lucky you are to have Ulfric show you so much attention.

I think some characters would get jealous too, and start causing trouble for you, even though Ulfric does nothing but treat you horribly.

 

Those characters might start making their own demands for you to prove that you are humble.

e.g. 

Hermir says, "Dirty slut! You are just a self-obsessed stuck-up bitch, distracting Ulfric from the war instead of helping like you should."

PC says, "I'm sorry. I'm doing my best."

Hermir slaps you. "This is what I think of your best. You need to show you are really sorry."

PC says, "You're right."

Hermir says, "Great. I have a job for you. Perfect for a lazy slut."

<followed by task to haul rocks, or collect ore, or lick Hermir's ass, or whatever you like>

 

I like the idea of all the Stormcloaks gathering around the DB, masturbating, and covering her in a massive load of sexy goop.

SLS/STA already have a voice line for it. "So much... lovely cum!"

 

Oh, and yet another ending suggestion:

Spoiler

The PC is so totally debased that Serpent has the hostage humiliate her too.

"I suffered in prison because of you, and all you did was slut around. I'm not doing this for revenge, it's just all you are good for."

 

Afterwards Serpent says.

"I have been looking a long time for a slut who could plumb the depths of debasement to the lowest level. Now that my career is over I can die happy knowing that you the most worthless person that ever lived. You had so much power, but you let yourself be used so that there is nothing left of you."

 

"I'm going to give you a great gift because I'm certain that even with more power you will still be nothing but a weak-minded slut. I want you to know that this isn't something I did to you. You did it to yourself."

 

Serpent gives the PC some powerful spells/items/perks then vanishes, but everyone still hates the PC and treats them like garbage.

 

 

I guess to sum up: Serpent rewards PC, but PC is debased worse than ever.

 

[marymuir2]

would be nice to see more added to Azaroth the dremora.  He doesn't really do much, I can summon him and have him follow me, but he doesn't demand anything, I have to ask him what he wants.  Would be interesting to see him tell you he has to prove his domination of you in front of other dremora or Dagon, by taking you on the shrine table or having you do him in front of others, and then put his 'talisman' (genital piercing or tattoo) on you, to mark you as his.  Also maybe give you special armor (slutty dremora armor) to wear, that you have to use if you want him to follow?

 

Come to think of it, you could add something similar about special armor or talisman to the thalmor quest guy, as a "reward" after the last spy quest.

 

Really enjoyed what you did with the painter with the troll at the bard's college, and adding an illustrated book by Mikael as I had suggested. Got a good laugh out of Mikael's complaint that his penis looked too small in the paintings.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, marymuir2 said:

painter with the troll at the bard's college

Painter + troll ... there's only one way that's going to end right?

Emperor Titus Meade? That got my attention. 

[Lupine00]

Another ending...

Spoiler

It turns out that your special person was in league with Serpent all along. In fact, they despised you so much that they came to Serpent and proposed the whole thing.

 

They have spent their supposed imprisonment being waited on in every way by sexy dremora ladies in slooty costumes while sipping margaritas by the side of some tropical lagoon.

 

They find everything that you did hilarious, and pathetic.

However, they are bored of your antics now.

Serpent and your special person continue their life of indulgence in luxury, laughing at you the whole time.

 

You are left with the entirety of Skyrim despising you.

 

That is all.

 

[COLOCO]

GURO GURO GURO we want GURO QUEST!!!

 

Decapitation,guts,dismembering...

Make Skyrim Trash againnn!!

[wygner]

1 hour ago, COLOCO said:

GURO GURO GURO we want GURO QUEST!!!

 

Decapitation,guts,dismembering...

Make Skyrim Trash againnn!!

only optional please

[COLOCO]

1 hour ago, wygner said:

only optional please

OMG!!!

[Ds4nch3z]

I like the Dignity idea that the DB has with bruiser..perhaps this could be incorporated into the main quest line as a whole.

 

being able to refuse, accept or, slowly compromise throughout the quests which determine how much dignity you end up with at the end.

 

If your dignity is really low submission is inevitable, medium dignity you have a choice, high dignity left you can break free of the guild and defeat them.

 

It would also be a good idea of adding a person/group that can be of assistance to the DB

 

perhaps you are allowed to visit your loved one, or relatives of your loved one or an enemy of serpent has seen what he is doing to you and gives you quests where you can regain some of the dignity and fight off some of the tortures and humiliations upon you.  Depending on how your dignity is at each meeting you get different options 

 

ie/ if your dignity is too low you refuse their help and dignity only increases a small amount.

The higher dignity you have at each stage the more you can recover with their help and inversely the lower your dignity the less you recover

 

at the end they see your fall and that you are beyond help or with their help your dignity is high enough that you can break free of the guild

 

A quest for the main quest line close to the end which dictates what type of ending you're going to get:

 

 

The DB is given the last task of convincing your former loved one into joining the guild. Will the DB accept or will this be the last straw and create the opening the DB needs to escape?

 

One option is to turn them into a humiliation/torture/slut slave just like you. You will convince your loved one to slowly start down the same path through their love for you. The humiliation/abuse slowly progresses until they begin to love it just like you and together you become the toys of the guild forever (lowest dignity- you obey without question and do as you are told like a good slave)

 

Other option is to slowly convince them to humiliate/torture and abuse you with the rest of the guild. You slowly warp your loved one into someone that loves to humiliate/torture and abuse you with the others even more then they do. (medium dignity- you have enough dignity to not make your loved one into what you are but not enough to free yourself as well)

 

Final Option is now that you have your loved one with you the DB can finally break free. To the astonishment of the guild the DB still has the strength of will and dignity to rise above the countless humiliation and abuse they have suffered to put the guild down for good and save their loved one now that they have them in their grasp.

[marymuir2]

On 4/18/2020 at 6:05 PM, Lupine00 said:

I haven't played this line, but it would be great if you could be sent to Ulfric to serve him as a special privilege for you.

 

You're so lucky, you can directly serve the Great Ulfric!!!

 

First he has sex with you, but he's disgusted with your performance and says you are only fit to use as a toilet.

You can choose to be happy with this and continue doing it, or get angry.

 

Maybe you can duel and beat him after you get angry, and then he respects you ... just a little ... but still says he went easy on you because you are a woman. No woman could really beat him!

 

If you keep serving Ulfric submissively, it could become a bit like Bruiser, except with everyone telling you how lucky you are to have Ulfric show you so much attention.

or just a more generic one, whichever side you join, after you complete your mission your leader (whether Ulfric or Tullius) announces your reward is the promotion/weapon and the "honor" of servicing him (starting with blow job, then progressing to vaginal and anal sex); maybe afterwards Ralof or Hadvar mention they heard the stories, they are upset because you never did that for them and guilt you into servicing them as well (in front of other soldiers?) after winning their mission

[Ds4nch3z]

5 hours ago, marymuir2 said:

or just a more generic one, whichever side you join, after you complete your mission your leader (whether Ulfric or Tullius) announces your reward is the promotion/weapon and the "honor" of servicing him (starting with blow job, then progressing to vaginal and anal sex); maybe afterwards Ralof or Hadvar mention they heard the stories, they are upset because you never did that for them and guilt you into servicing them as well (in front of other soldiers?) after winning their mission

It could be a progression of humiliation and sex ie/ when you first join it will be Ulfric who you have to service, then Ulfric and Galmar after the ice wraith to "make it official". Then at each location you are asked to service a certain number of soldiers for "morale". Rolof/Hadvar get pissed off and want in too and they get abusive (slap, hair pull, humiliation, etc) because you didn't give it to them first even though you have known them longer. It then turns into more soldiers you have to service and humiliating you, finally moving into threesomes, gangbangs at each point with multiple soldiers ie/ when you free forts or areas. 

 

Same thing in the legion with Tullius, his officers and Hadvar

[Yuni]

Suggestion/Request:
Edippa presently only asks you to milk her the first time you talk to her.
You could tie her asking you to milk her to milk fullness of Milk Mod Economy and/or Soul Gem Oven, or even that of Hentai Pregnancy. That is, if she gets full of milk she will ask to be milked again. Just a suggestion.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Yuni said:

That is, if she gets full of milk she will ask to be milked again. Just a suggestion.

I think there's a mechanic in MME especially for this, that nobody ever uses, called "Milk Slave".

 

Probably should check with Ed on the best way to do it though.

[lcewolf]

This mod is quite popular with good reason. Every day someone make a  request or suggestion. I hope the maker of this mod will keep going and advance the main quest soon.

[Nightdragon62]

well your Mod dosent work  for me every time í install it the Mod CTDS my Game wenn i try to relode a save file or when i start a New game

 

[Lupine00]

1 minute ago, Nightdragon62 said:

well your Mod dosent work  for me every time í install it the Mod CTDS my Game wenn i try to relode a save file or when i start a New game

Probably you won't get that fixed by providing no information about your configuration, nothing about what you did to fix it already, and no notes on where you looked for help and information and came up blank - and what you tried out as a result of looking.

 

How can anyone possibly help you based on "mod CTD on start and load" ?

[HabibHanson]

For the parts of the mod that include faction-wide sexism like in the companions and winterhold, you should make it where the female npc's get used from time to time. The War Whore concept is neat and all but some action to back up the dialogue that the female npc's have would really breathe some life into the scenario.

[test11112222]

On 4/18/2020 at 8:26 AM, DSHV said:

There should be the quest marker pointing to a next soldier.

 

Have you tried TESTZAZ7TroublesofHeroineLE1.6.4?

Thanks for the feedback. This version seems to be stable, but ZAZ furniture is missing and I need to arrange it again. I guess I can reduce Bruiser's debt to 1000, I just wanted to make it not so easy to pay and impose the Lucan's contract. And can add to Fan a dialog to choose how to service to him. As for prisoner, standing all night is his silly joke, like Cidhna's prisoner's crushing stones with teeth. And it is assumed that the heroine will eat his sperm to not starve to death.

I tried to make a debt system with global value, but failed. I also thought about simply putting gold in a NPC's inventory, what I did with Morveux, but it is rather clumsily implemented.

Well, plans for 1.7 version:

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• ZAZ Animation Pack 7.....50%
• Slaves in Misty Grove and Sovngarde. Dremora – horny Nocturnal cosplayer.....0%
• Sexist Thieves Guild: As a newbie PC will become a training dummy for the rest of the thieves. She will pretend to be a noble lady and hide some gems on yourself (and most hidden in yourself). The thieves will try to steal gems and the most agile will receive a special prize. What else can I add? Multi-stage heist where PC gets information from a fugitive in the Ratway and pretend to be a concubine? Just sex after dialog option with guild members? Help to Nocturnal stop people, who want mantling Nocturnal by repeating her ritual (when she strips naked before her followers)?.....0%
• Many is confused by Sexist Companions, so I think to add explanation to Aela about war whores and quest where PC are instructed to conduct and to tour the Jorrvaskr to an official guest and convince him that female companions do not fight.....0%
• Sexist College: PC helps Onmund get ready for a magic history test by taking off some of the clothes for the correct answers. Pc plays along with Drevis Neloren in learning mind control spells. Pc helps a mad mage in Midden research racial phylogeny and necromancy.....0%
• For Sexist Dark Brotherhood I just came up with seducind target’s boyfriend in front of her eyes before kill.....0%
• Nazeem hires PC to improve his reputation that he conquered and tame famous heroine.....0%
• Sexist Stormcloaks: special instructor for women and non-Nords. Instead of unnecessary fighting skills, he will teach PC cooking, lavatory, washing and serving men duties. And also some little bit of brainwashing and propaganda.....0%
• Main quest: Celebrate PC’s birth as slave. Collect a bunch of items for guests (for example, Catherine wants a spermroll, which PC have to cook and a precious gem, which she collects for certain purposes). But guests will not leave PC without gifts. Serpent gives you your lover’s finger. PC’s reaction is the first steps to endings:
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  • Submission - The hostage is released, but sees the degree of the heroine's fall and is disgusted by it. 
  • Good End - PC do not give up and looking for hostage (ineffectually), researchs who the Serpent is and with a help of this knowledge she release the hostages. 
  • Bad End - PC bore Serpent and he kills the hostage and sets PC up.
  • Oh, and to kill Serpent and don’t save the hostage is always available. I guess, it can be called Straightforward ending.
  
  Then PC entertains the guests in textboxes. (Oblivion Crysis game, where Pc’s “oblivion gate” devours “people” and “cities” and in the end “Crystal Tower”, be piñata with gold, some jokes about Pc’s mother, etc).....0%
• PC gives Lars lessons on how to capture and teach slaves on the example of a proud lady-knight.....0%
• Bruiser wants to know how hard he/she can hit PC. With a pair of potions and insults we find it out. But now PC need to apologize well for the insults.....0%
• PC drags heavy stones from one place to another and then drags it back.....0%
• PC serves as a walking bag for smuggling of skooma. But she is caught by guards; search; interrogation and she can say nothing and meet consequences of the loss of goods or tell everything and meet other consequences.....0%
• PC brings to Grym some pain related items from Shivering Isles.....0%
• Morveux learns about a slave tournament in Skyrim and wants to participate. PC needs to be registered, trained (for example, clean the cave naked), fight with other slaves and then winner fuck loser.....0%
• Apologize to Argonians at the Windhelm’s docks in few small quests. Better apologize being a Nord or a Dunmer, but you can do it by any race, even Argonian.....0%
• A drunkard in Windhelm who harass Dunmer PС and bet that he will conquer “that slut “heroine””.....0%
• Hearthfire addon: foul liar's dialog with her children, wooden sword for dragonwhore, Bad Bitch in pet adoption faction, use of dlc's items, etc.....0%

 

sounds good, it's a pity that it won't be soon

[DSHV]

 

On 4/19/2020 at 8:26 AM, 123KDE said:

is the skeever queen quest complete-able? i picked up everything in the basement but quest has not updated and cant talk to serpent about it either...

Yes, maybe some item failed under the texture?

On 4/20/2020 at 10:32 AM, Lupine00 said:

Another ending...

Spoiler

 

I'm actually thinking about hidden silly ending where it turns out your spouse pranked you with the help of the Serpent.

And instead tortures your spouse was seduced by women. When spouse find out depraved PC, he says something like this:"When I was kidnapped and seduced in countless ways instead of my rescue, you immediately began jumping on cocks!"

 

 

On 4/23/2020 at 3:23 AM, Yuni said:

You could tie her asking you to milk her to milk fullness of Milk Mod Economy and/or Soul Gem Oven, or even that of Hentai Pregnancy.

I did not understand how to do soft dependencies.Maybe someday I will understand.

 

On 4/23/2020 at 7:47 AM, lcewolf said:

This mod is quite popular with good reason. Every day someone make a  request or suggestion. I hope the maker of this mod will keep going and advance the main quest soon.

Definitely.

[Lupine00]

9 minutes ago, DSHV said:

I'm actually thinking about hidden silly ending

But it's ToH, silly ending is the primary ending!

It sounds like the PC and her spouse were made for each other, they're both the same.

[Ds4nch3z]

45 minutes ago, DSHV said:

 

I'm actually thinking about hidden silly ending where it turns out your spouse pranked you with the help of the Serpent.

And instead tortures your spouse was seduced by women. When spouse find out depraved PC, he says something like this:"When I was kidnapped and seduced in countless ways instead of my rescue, you immediately began jumping on cocks!"

 

heh secret silly ending would be interesting addition to the submission, good and bad ending scenarios..although i am not sure how it would all play out after all those tortures and humiliations lol might have to happen before things get too crazy. 

 

"We made you drink a potion that shatters your soul and hired a brutal orc to beat the crap out of you and torture you as a prank! Haha...ha....and then we got a bunch of people to do all sorts of terrible things to you as a prank too! ha......hmmm.....we might have taken things too far" 

[macnchz]

once you click the im squeamish button, you cannot return.  that a bug or intended?

[Lupine00]

6 hours ago, macnchz said:

once you click the im squeamish button, you cannot return.  that a bug or intended?

It's a bug, and a strange one. The MCM just cannot modify that global once it's changed it once.

It seems specific to some subtle corruption in the ToH esp, possibly due to some sketchy CK bug.

You can, however, fix the global from the console.

 

Maybe it's Skyrim as normal, and it's caused by how some quest uses the global?

I haven't seen anything like it before.

 

Possibly, it could be fixed by making some totally different global and updating all the dialogs that use it?

Sounds like a bit of a time-sink to try though.

[sullivan]

7 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

It's a bug, and a strange one. The MCM just cannot modify that global once it's changed it once.

It seems specific to some subtle corruption in the ToH esp, possibly due to some sketchy CK bug.

You can, however, fix the global from the console.

 

Maybe it's Skyrim as normal, and it's caused by how some quest uses the global?

I haven't seen anything like it before.

 

Possibly, it could be fixed by making some totally different global and updating all the dialogs that use it?

Sounds like a bit of a time-sink to try though.

And how does one "fix the global"? I just started this for the first time and I am squeamish is activated from the start. I looked in the mcm after install and it is already clicked. And like mentioned i can't change it. I tested this a few times now with other clean saves (not that i would have a single one with progress in this mod) and it is always activated from the start.

So there is a basically no way to have it even not active for me.