AAF HARDSHIP - beggar- whore -

[JB.]

1 hour ago, DremoraDream said:

PC is often too poor to afford food, meds, drink, or alcohol, low on caps,

Well, for that you have to beg ... If you beg for a long time, you will have plenty of food and drink ...

 

For medicines, you have to save money. And offer the butt, which is the product that customers ask for the most. 

 

 

[DremoraDream]

1 hour ago, JBpy said:

Well, for that you have to beg ... If you beg for a long time, you will have plenty of food and drink ...

 

For medicines, you have to save money. And offer the butt, which is the product that customers ask for the most. 

 

 

so u mean successful begging gives better stuff later on?

[izzyknows]

4 hours ago, DremoraDream said:

so u mean successful begging gives better stuff later on?

If I remember right, your looks dictates what you get.

Gunners are a great supply cache.

[DremoraDream]

9 minutes ago, izzyknows said:

If I remember right, your looks dictates what you get.

Gunners are a great supply cache.

hm well 

combined with advanced needs 2...

and the amount of cigarettes i've obtained..

i'm fucking ugly since I got ghoulified.  i never knew you could get better stuff from begging. I just assumed the best thing you could get out of this mod (aside from the the dialogue interactions) was more caps

[izzyknows]

You don't really get better items from begging, unless you're good looking, but you can get stuff a lot faster.

[Punkin']

Really good mod!  Wanted to offer encouragement to Tentacus.

I'd love to see more depth in the interactions of the main pimps, especially Isabel.  Events like being taken on a leashed walk or cuffed/gagged in public, or tattooed, a DD effect on the collar, etc, would all be good expansions.  There are a ton of dialogues already in and I don't know if they track relationship statistics or not, but that would be an amazing starting point to let the player's responses customize how she reacts.  Perhaps reluctant responses could lead eventually towards freedom and leave the door open to rejoin, resistant responses could lead to more "slave breaking" extremes, and encouraging responses could lead to a more consensual, D/s style relationship.  I wish I had the time and aptitude to contribute.

For example, the idea of the owned house was awesome, and something I've only seen before once, in Maria Eden.  Maybe "servicing" enough is required to stay in good graces, but if the player doesn't, the house becomes as much a prison (somehow block the exits, force servicing johns?)  Or wearing cuffs & collar & no armor while pimp is following, makes a pimp more protective, whereas if you aren't restrained their AI package toggles to a more passive one.

[Zathuul]

Just gonna mention this since it's important, but this mod didn't seem to have survival as a supported option https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13431

I had to use a different mod called Light Em Up to be able to autosave in survival https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17749

 

although in Light Em Up, there isn't any animation and it only works if used in quick slot for weapons and such. That's the only two down sides for it. But at least it works and doesn't mess up my save in survival mode. So now I'm gonna try this mod again and since I fixed my animation issue, I should be able to get this to work with the requirements.

[Tentacus]

9 hours ago, Punkin' said:

Really good mod!  Wanted to offer encouragement to Tentacus.

I'd love to see more depth in the interactions of the main pimps, especially Isabel.  Events like being taken on a leashed walk or cuffed/gagged in public, or tattooed, a DD effect on the collar, etc, would all be good expansions.  There are a ton of dialogues already in and I don't know if they track relationship statistics or not, but that would be an amazing starting point to let the player's responses customize how she reacts.  Perhaps reluctant responses could lead eventually towards freedom and leave the door open to rejoin, resistant responses could lead to more "slave breaking" extremes, and encouraging responses could lead to a more consensual, D/s style relationship.  I wish I had the time and aptitude to contribute.

For example, the idea of the owned house was awesome, and something I've only seen before once, in Maria Eden.  Maybe "servicing" enough is required to stay in good graces, but if the player doesn't, the house becomes as much a prison (somehow block the exits, force servicing johns?)  Or wearing cuffs & collar & no armor while pimp is following, makes a pimp more protective, whereas if you aren't restrained their AI package toggles to a more passive one.

There is some public stuff for Isabel coming actually. And I would love a leashed walk. (Especially on all fours) Beat up some animators and make them make the AOs and objects for that

[Tentacus]

7 hours ago, Zathuul said:

Just gonna mention this since it's important, but this mod didn't seem to have survival as a supported option https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13431

I had to use a different mod called Light Em Up to be able to autosave in survival https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17749

 

although in Light Em Up, there isn't any animation and it only works if used in quick slot for weapons and such. That's the only two down sides for it. But at least it works and doesn't mess up my save in survival mode. So now I'm gonna try this mod again and since I fixed my animation issue, I should be able to get this to work with the requirements.

The first mod does work in survival. I've been using it since it's release   

 

I also use this mod and turn on wait saving in Survival options: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14807

[fred200]

Might consider a pusher pimp. First fixes are free, then you have to earn them, then you have no choice...

Seems would fit in well with Schooma Whore.

[Shiori栞]

Everyone keeps saying no to me. ಥ_ಥ

No one seems interested in "services" anymore, and Raiders are literally non-hostile now. I can just stroll right past them. I'm not sure if this applies to all of them, but I have noticed I can just hang out in a Raider hangout safely sometimes, if not all the time.

 

I haven't been Menaced in a long time. How do I get people to say yes to her services? Sometimes they smile and shake their head as if saying "sure thing" but then nothing happens. Also I think maybe Pimpie (that's what I call her now) stopped collecting from me. And I have never successfully Begged from anyone. They basically just tell me to take a hike.

 

Also, is there supposed to be dialogue? I'm not seeing any words but mouths are moving. I have basic dialogue options but no text appears in between selections, when they are clearly saying stuff.

Edit: Oops, saw your post about subtitles. Now I can see them telling me If I can't survive on my own I don't deserve to.   (´。＿。｀)

 

Edit too: Wow, just noticed the Makeup Mirror and BW Menu don't work anymore. Also Irma said she'd give me something but I didn't get anything and I had a guy finally agree to some services and said Let's find somewhere more private but he wouldn't follow me. The scenario simply canceled.

 

Another Edit why not: Reinstalling brought back the option to use the Menu. I noticed something else: I use RSE needs (pee/poop/eat/sleep) and when it said I was getting hungry or thirsty, I saw no icons to represent that. When I uninstalled this mod, the icons became visible again. What's up with that? ?

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Will the pimps let you be part-time?  I like to go adventuring for a day or two and then come back to the established towns to work the streets, so to speak.  But if the pimps expect you to check in every day, I'd be in trouble.  I'm afraid to sign up with one because I don't want to get stuck there.

[Tentacus]

3 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Will the pimps let you be part-time?  I like to go adventuring for a day or two and then come back to the established towns to work the streets, so to speak.  But if the pimps expect you to check in every day, I'd be in trouble.  I'm afraid to sign up with one because I don't want to get stuck there.

Yeah. I was pretty lazy in that regard. There's no real enforcement of how long you have. Of course you could have them follow you and you'd have to work while on the road

[Tentacus]

On 2/6/2020 at 9:11 PM, Shiori栞 said:

Another Edit why not: Reinstalling brought back the option to use the Menu. I noticed something else: I use RSE needs (pee/poop/eat/sleep) and when it said I was getting hungry or thirsty, I saw no icons to represent that. When I uninstalled this mod, the icons became visible again. What's up with that? ?

No idea. I don't do anything with the UI, other than open the looks menu. 

 

As far as your other problems, it sounds like you proabably had a corrupt script. I'll also note that sometimes you might want to try reinstalling AAF, I one time had my AAF install get corrupted and it made my main script for Hardship not work at all.

[Shiori栞]

7 hours ago, Tentacus said:

No idea. I don't do anything with the UI, other than open the looks menu. 

 

As far as your other problems, it sounds like you proabably had a corrupt script. I'll also note that sometimes you might want to try reinstalling AAF, I one time had my AAF install get corrupted and it made my main script for Hardship not work at all.

Odd. Like, I had dialogue options, but literally nothing actually worked. People would talk, but that was about it, and all raiders were friendly. Was actually kind of pleasant. ? Survival pretty easy for a while there, and I could even date raiders with M.C.G. cuz they weren't attacking me. ?

 

I had a question though. There are supposed to be 4 pimps, right? Who/where are they? I only know of BD and the Queen. I don't know of other inns except one in Far Harbor and I don't recall seeing a pimp there, though I may have installed this mod after I went there (that DLC's not completed yet though). Is Isabel the one who wants you to do humiliating stuff? I hope so, cuz she's the one I went with. For some reason I thought Irma might be one. thb That would be pretty great. She seems perfect for it, mostly because of the way she dresses, carries herself and speaks.

 

btw Reinstalling seems to have completely refreshed the whole mod so all seems to be well, but I've never seen anyone do that "pee stuff" and "hate speech" ever. Is that supposed to be really rare? I also have never been "assaulted" when trying to solicit. Is that when it's supposed to happen? Or does it refer to general assault from menacing raiders? If so, would it not be pretty darn hard to get a bad boyfriend in that case? Or am I just not triggering such a scene by sheer chance? The closest I've seen during "services" is when they do things I tell them not to do, like suddenly putting it in her butt and not pulling out etc. <-- highlight to reveal words, I thought I may have been revealing spoilers

[izzyknows]

16 minutes ago, Shiori栞 said:

Who/where are they?

Bunker Hill, Hotel Rexford

16 minutes ago, Shiori栞 said:

but I've never seen anyone do that "pee stuff" and "hate speech" ever.

You need to turn them on in the menu. Then it's just dialogue, no animations.

 

16 minutes ago, Shiori栞 said:

I also have never been "assaulted" when trying to solicit.

F04 has a crap RNG, that's why some mod authors write their own. But generally, it's a bad roll of the dice.

Sometimes exiting the game and reloading will break the bad luck streak. "Sometimes" ! LOL

But, you need to mod fully working to start with, which sounds like you do now.

[Shiori栞]

35 minutes ago, izzyknows said:

Bunker Hill, Hotel Rexford

Ah, I haven't been to Bunker Hill yet. I'm doing Brotherhood missions right now so it won't be long. And Hotel Rexford, I've been there a lot. I haven't noticed any pimp there, but I will obviously ask around next time I am there. Only seen the ones in Dugout Inn and the Third Rail. Love how BD is just chilling in a robe in a bar. ?

 

54 minutes ago, izzyknows said:

You need to turn them on in the menu. Then it's just dialogue, no animations.

Yeah the first thing I did was turn those on. Never saw anything related to pee, but I think that special font dialogue that pops up saying various things must be the hate stuff. Thought I was missing something else. RSE has a pee animation though in Advanced Needs, so technically this could be used in this situation.

56 minutes ago, izzyknows said:

F04 has a crap RNG, that's why some mod authors write their own. But generally, it's a bad roll of the dice.

Welp, guess I'll just have to see if it happens. At least I know now it is related to actual soliciting.

 

Tentacus, as a suggestion/request/thought, I think it might be neat to be able to do the bad bf thing with menacing raiders too, and maybe not limited to only male raiders. Like, male raider = Bad BF and female raider = Bitch GF. Would be epic.  They could start dialogue after they're done "menacing" you, saying you had better come see them again cuz they're not done with you, in which case you have options, one of which is nervously agreeing to do it out of fear or trauma, thus an alt way to start an abusive relationship.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

1 hour ago, Shiori栞 said:

Ah, I haven't been to Bunker Hill yet. I'm doing Brotherhood missions right now so it won't be long.

I've noticed that the pimp in Bunker Hill always dies during the Battle of Bunker Hill, @Tentacus might want to adjust their factions and/or bravery so they don't get involved in the battle and just cowers like the rest of the civilians.  And maybe set them essential or protected.

[Shiori栞]

2 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I've noticed that the pimp in Bunker Hill always dies during the Battle of Bunker Hill, @Tentacus might want to adjust their factions and/or bravery so they don't get involved in the battle and just cowers like the rest of the civilians.  And maybe set them essential or protected.

Hm, well, I just wanna know which is the one that humiliates you. I want that one. Based on her personality, I'd guess it's Isabel. If I see the Bunker Hill pimp die I will either try to set her (him?) to essential upon arrival, or resurrect after potential death. Hopefully no scripts go away upon death/resurrection.

[Zathuul]

On 2/6/2020 at 1:19 PM, Tentacus said:

The first mod does work in survival. I've been using it since it's release   

 

I also use this mod and turn on wait saving in Survival options: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14807

Odd, no idea why it doesn't for me. When I installed it and tried booting it up, it only had very hard mode and my survival mode was gone from the list until I uninstalled it. Maybe my game hates me, I don't have anything messing with the difficulty so it was really strange.

 

Or maybe it messed up my saves because one time I touched the options in the main menu before loading my game? I'll try that again and see if it because I bugged out the game lol I tend to break my saves though, I wouldn't put it past me

[Plaguetard]

Just curious, would it be possible to add a dialogue option that bypasses this mod so we don't have to turn it off and back on all the time? I know it can get there because if you beg too many times they just default back to normal dialogue. Just curious. Thanks for the great mod!

[Tentacus]

12 hours ago, Shiori栞 said:

Odd. Like, I had dialogue options, but literally nothing actually worked. People would talk, but that was about it, and all raiders were friendly. Was actually kind of pleasant. ? Survival pretty easy for a while there, and I could even date raiders with M.C.G. cuz they weren't attacking me. ?

 

The all raiders friendly thing can happen when the menacing raider gets stuck somewhere and never closes within 600 (?) units. This should reset though whenever you move 2000 units away (the "area seems safe" notification) as a new raider will fill that alias if you go back.

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I had a question though. There are supposed to be 4 pimps, right? Who/where are they? I only know of BD and the Queen. I don't know of other inns except one in Far Harbor and I don't recall seeing a pimp there, though I may have installed this mod after I went there (that DLC's not completed yet though). Is Isabel the one who wants you to do humiliating stuff? I hope so, cuz she's the one I went with. For some reason I thought Irma might be one. thb That would be pretty great. She seems perfect for it, mostly because of the way she dresses, carries herself and speaks.

If you looked at the pimps video you should be able to see, but The other 2 pimps are at Hotel Rexford, and at Bunker hill. The Bunker Hill one is by herself in the back.

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btw Reinstalling seems to have completely refreshed the whole mod so all seems to be well, but I've never seen anyone do that "pee stuff" and "hate speech" ever. Is that supposed to be really rare? I also have never been "assaulted" when trying to solicit. Is that when it's supposed to happen? Or does it refer to general assault from menacing raiders?

It's off ny default so make sure you turn it on. But Pee stuff is totally random. I'm not sure honestly if the bad boyfriend does pee stuff, as I haven't had one since adding it. It's possible another keyword or global has gotten stuck on and blocked pee stuff. I'll look into it. Also the pee stuff is just another text/sound event.

 

Hate speech is really only gonna be noticible if you are a male player as it's mostly about homophobic slurs for male prostitutes and sissies.

 

[Tentacus]

40 minutes ago, Plaguetard said:

Just curious, would it be possible to add a dialogue option that bypasses this mod so we don't have to turn it off and back on all the time? I know it can get there because if you beg too many times they just default back to normal dialogue. Just curious. Thanks for the great mod!

I fail to see how this is easier. There is even an MCM now if you don't like the menu.

[Tentacus]

9 hours ago, Shiori栞 said:

Hm, well, I just wanna know which is the one that humiliates you. I want that one. Based on her personality, I'd guess it's Isabel. If I see the Bunker Hill pimp die I will either try to set her (him?) to essential upon arrival, or resurrect after potential death. Hopefully no scripts go away upon death/resurrection.

Isabel is the most D/s one, but they all degrade you to some extent.

 

I was supposed to adjust Marge's faction in the last big update but forgot.

[DremoraDream]

@Tentacus I now have only one real request thats not fetish based:

now that Flashy introduced Crime and Punishment... I've been playing with these 2 mods and they go well together.

EXCEPT


the amount of caps per act. CAP has a low cap charge for sex with an NPC that increases over time (i believe). This mod has flat rates based on the presets you pick for your character. Can we have a modular cap charge, thats capped (heh) to a cetrain max amount? The option to configue caps we charge an NPC in the MCM would be incredible.

Just a thought.