AAF HARDSHIP - beggar- whore -

[DremoraDream]

@Tentacus Still love the mod, working great across all playthroughs. No issues at all, even with CAP, Violate....you name it.

I once made a suggestion about incorporating the Children of Atom a while back. I know they could be difficult to work with in this regard, but anyway I'll explain my thoughts if you don't mind.
I'm currently attempting to join that faction. I decided to go through the CK and see how the begging system and dialogue triggers, and I found an idea - perhaps adding to the begging dynamic, a sort of Tribute/Donation system, once you're part of the CoA. The player can offer their body as tribute, or instead of receiving caps, perhaps favor or reputation with an NPC and how they reference the player and the CoA overall.

Again, It's just some thoughts about a very niche faction in the game. I'm curious to know if you have any thoughts on this (not expecting it to be implemented or anything).


Also, looking forward to added Raider Functionality, your work is amazing. This mod covers so many topics it's insane.

[Tentacus]

22 minutes ago, DremoraDream said:

@Tentacus Still love the mod, working great across all playthroughs. No issues at all, even with CAP, Violate....you name it.

I once made a suggestion about incorporating the Children of Atom a while back. I know they could be difficult to work with in this regard, but anyway I'll explain my thoughts if you don't mind.
I'm currently attempting to join that faction. I decided to go through the CK and see how the begging system and dialogue triggers, and I found an idea - perhaps adding to the begging dynamic, a sort of Tribute/Donation system, once you're part of the CoA. The player can offer their body as tribute, or instead of receiving caps, perhaps favor or reputation with an NPC and how they reference the player and the CoA overall.

Again, It's just some thoughts about a very niche faction in the game. I'm curious to know if you have any thoughts on this (not expecting it to be implemented or anything).


Also, looking forward to added Raider Functionality, your work is amazing. This mod covers so many topics it's insane.

As I said before I have some Atom ideas for my other mod Hospitality, when and if I ever get back to it.

[vaultbait]

On 3/1/2020 at 11:04 PM, EconomicPolicy said:

I just wish Menacing Raider could be toggled separately from BW mode. I would love to have it on all the time, but not BW mode.

I was about to say it can be, but you're right... you can have BW mode without MR but not the other way around.

[Tentacus]

14 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

I was about to say it can be, but you're right... you can have BW mode without MR but not the other way around.

The converse starts to fundamentally change the primary game mechanic and it's just super unnecessary.

[Tentacus]

Very pleasantly surprised to see that all the Savage Cabbage doubleteam animations I want to use are already tagged as aggressive which means they will work well with Porno music and Hardship out of the box. This is Indarello though, I can only hope that The new One Patch will have the same tags. 

 

I have my issues with Savage Cabbage particularly the sound implementation which I MUST edit the shit out of to use, but those group animations are all pretty great. Particularly like the DP animation where the front guy covers her mouth.

[DremoraDream]

1 hour ago, Tentacus said:

As I said before I have some Atom ideas for my other mod Hospitality, when and if I ever get back to it.

Sounds interesting, i must have missed that detail. I'll keep an eye on the forum. Thanks for the info

[Tentacus]

22 minutes ago, DremoraDream said:

Sounds interesting, i must have missed that detail. I'll keep an eye on the forum. Thanks for the info

The mod will compliment Hardship well. as it's about trading sex for a place to stay (more or less) There is an alpha out since X-mas but it only features one encounter. A second one is 90% done but I decided to finish working on Hardship first mainly so I could sort out how best to deal with things like threesomes.

[Tentacus]

Nothing can ever be easy. I need to edit some of these poses to not be staged, to fit the theme, and to make Handcuffs work for one of them. That means XMLs pointing at Savage Cabbage, which means if I don't wanna hear people bitch about errors I have to add a FOMOD installer for sure. *sigh* 

 

I wish there was a way to tell AAF to ignore certain XMLs unless they are needed.

 

Ugh... sorry, I'm being a whiny bitch today. Here enjoy this old picture:

 

[Tentacus]

I swear I'll never understand why these XML guys sometimes make 2 unrelated animations into an awkward staged anim, like the one bp70 one in Indarello that literally turns 90 degrees on the stage change. Or like one stage has sound and the other doesn't etc... 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Tentacus said:

 

LOL Thanks @Flashy (JoeR). Great minds think alike ?

 

Glad you solved it.

I didn't point him to Hardship alone, lol. I mentioned to look at MCG, Hardship and Sexual Harrassment - that it likely came from one of the three, just didn't know which. Definitely, as with Hardship, not something that would exist in CAP - the stuff happening to him would all but ensure CAP would be removed from the Nexus (and possibly see my account/IP banned). Rapey stuff is a huge no-no (and anyways, CAP is 100% voiced by vanilla assets and such dialogue doesn't exist for those sorts of things).

[Tentacus]

And now I've gone and forgotten my Nexus password and it seems it isn't associated with any e-mail I still have.... for... fuck's... sake. I am not having a good day.

[Skelletoncz]

Idea.
BD and Marge also buy a house in DC.

They give the PC caps themselves.

But first they save them from the PC.

Command Pc to build in DC Whorehouse.

Pc will work Whorehouse.

BD and Marge takes PC charge 75% caps.

The BD or Marge will return to DC after the end of tracking.

 

AAF HOSPITALITY could not use A.S.I.A. - Sexbots?

 

[Tentacus]

Okay so here's the deal. My Tentacus Nexus account is essentially dead. I can't recover it without the old e-mails. This isn't that huge of a deal because  I accidentally created a second account that's never really been used at some point a long ass time ago, (that I've been super paranoid about since I heard you can get banned for having 2) but since Nexus support TOLD ME to create a new account I'll just use that.

 

Anyway. At some point I may move my Nexus mods here, but for now they aren't being updated anyway so they should remain stable unless Nexus screws up the files or something. The point is if you use my Nexus mods don't expect any support from me over there. I'll add a note about it to my sig.

[Tentacus]

Deep thoughts corner:

 

Can I just say that now that I know how to make mfgData XMLs I am more and more impressed with AAF. There is so much depth and flexibility in there. I feel kinda bad that nobody really uses the tree stuff which I feel like was Dagobaking's main thing. Personally I just don't like having to use keyboard shortcuts to roleplay so I don't ever really see using them, but I am sure there is great potential there for someone to make a great mod.

 

I'd also like to say that one of my dearest hopes for Hardship is that other modders will start using some of the techniques I've pioneered and improve on them. When I started modding I wanted to add a disclaimer with my source that "You shouldn't do it how I do because it's amateurish and stupid" and to some extent that's still really true but at the same time I feel like I've done some pretty innovative out of the box stuff that nobody else has here or with Sexlab. I think it's good and I'd like to see it propogate.

 

Anyway sorry for getting a little sentimental. It's friday night and been a rough couple of days

[mashup47]

4 hours ago, Tentacus said:

I'd also like to say that one of my dearest hopes for Hardship is that other modders will start using some of the techniques I've pioneered and improve on them.

Perhaps when/if you have time After this update you could knock up a template/guide or two. I'm sure others would be very interested if you did. As I love what you have done to the way the action and storyline is told it just adds so much more depth.

Here's to hoping. 

[aw01]

I wanted to take a moment to post here and say that your mod is really, really exceptional. I love the approach to all of it. The whoring and begging handled perfectly (even to including addict support - I actually love that when I'm whoring to get enough money for food or a bed [advanced needs 2] there's a chance that in dialogue I'll get (sort of) stuck with the option to ask for drugs. I'm an addict! if it comes down to it, that's what I'm gonna choose!)

 

But the aspect that mimics what Apropos aimed to do for Skyrim is really, really great. The dialogue pop ups during sex are divine, and being able to choose replies is super immersive. I especially love the way that cumming is handled. Other mods seem to just leave it as implied, so getting explicit with it is great. I wish that other mods would take your example and emulate you!

[Tentacus]

3 hours ago, mashup47 said:

Perhaps when/if you have time After this update you could knock up a template/guide or two. I'm sure others would be very interested if you did. As I love what you have done to the way the action and storyline is told it just adds so much more depth.

Here's to hoping. 

Well, I include the source, that's kinda the guide.  

 

3 hours ago, aw01 said:

But the aspect that mimics what Apropos aimed to do for Skyrim is really, really great. The dialogue pop ups during sex are divine, and being able to choose replies is super immersive. I especially love the way that cumming is handled. Other mods seem to just leave it as implied, so getting explicit with it is great. I wish that other mods would take your example and emulate you!

Thanks! 

[Tentacus]

Update:

 

It's taking a little longer to work out the kinks of Gangrape interaction than I thought, but the results are pretty cool so far. Unlike the typical interaction, this is mostly passive for the player and involves them being completely controlled by the rapists who comment on them and abuse them at will.

 

So like the raider in front comments how the player can't keep their teeth out of the way... If the player is female... when punching doesn't work they'll switch to DPing her. If the player is male he'll calm down and switch to a less aggressive animation etc...

[Tentacus]

Update:

 

I seem to have all the bugs worked out and the Gang rape is working smoothly now. It always takes a while to dial all the menu interactions in. Now I just need to make a second set of lines. I was worried about how to handle the end of scene stuff but that actually ended up rather easy. all I have to do is call the function for one of the holes being used before the end of the scene, and then wait a couple of seconds to end the scene which will play the other one.

[Tentacus]

Update:

 

Just did the test for the cuffed version:

 

         

 

      

 

     

 

       

 

                                                 

 

The main difference with the uncuffed version of this scenario is that the actual animation would have changed to a more relaxed one. Unfortunately only one SC Threesome anim works with cuffs on. (and I even had to make my own version of that since the indarello version is sequential with an unrelated anim)

 

If she had chosen to struggle it's likely that violence would have intensified resulting in more injury. and if it was the uncuffed version they'd switch to DPing her. There are several different lines for each raider for each scenario, positive and negative, and anal/vaginal versions for the guy in back. Obviously only anal if the player is male. 

 

You can also take extra incidental wear and tear damage from Gang rape as it's implicitly more violent. There is a player dialogue controlled opportunity for unexpected orgasm from DP.

 

NOTE: Don't feel like the teeth scraping is an immersion breaker if your PC is a dick sucking pro. The idea here is she/he is being roughly handled and can't really control the situation at all, forcing herself to try to relax helps.  Likewise insults or compliments to his/her other assets may or may not be honest on the part of the rapists (IE: he says you have a loose pussy but your PC is practically a virgin). He might just be being cruel.

 

All in all I'm about 2/3 of the way done with this aspect. In a way this was like writing a whole extra sex script, but harder as it had to integrate with the existing raider system.

 

Oh and if they put cuffs on you during a gang rape they stay on, after.

[mashup47]

Awesome Stuff and Loving it more and more. just proves my point I made in my last post ' it's all about how it's told '.

  If I'm lucky I mite have my new game installed by release once I sort out some stupid errors like the three letters From AAF staying on my screen that do not go away.

[Tentacus]

Update:

 

So for when your... um mouth is full I added a menu that lets you communicate with your eyes... like  "squeeze them shut", "Glare in hatred" etc... In terms of RP I really like this.

 

After I did this I thought I'd try to make it actually affect the facial expressions using mfgData but sadly while it works sometimes.... With animations that have baked in expressions (Not XML) it doesn't work and can look awful... (Like eyeballs squirting out of closed lids bad)... so I'm gonna have to scrap that idea... and you'll just have to use your IMAGINATION!

[Purify]

Awesome as always!

 

Are you planning to add deeper layers to any of the relationships (pimps, boyfriend, companions) or its beyond the scope of the mod? The mod works wonderfully feature wise but I think has a huge potential for roleplay beyond the sexual encounters.

 

In any case, thanks for your amazing job.

[Tentacus]

36 minutes ago, Purify said:

Awesome as always!

 

Are you planning to add deeper layers to any of the relationships (pimps, boyfriend, companions) or its beyond the scope of the mod? The mod works wonderfully feature wise but I think has a huge potential for roleplay beyond the sexual encounters.

 

In any case, thanks for your amazing job.

Glad you like it!

 

There will be some new BDSM content for Isabel, a little bit of character content with named customers but nothing too deep. After this update I will probably consider Hardship "finished" Though I will be making an addon pack of sorts which will add a few new characters, and new mechanics and will be slave trade focused. (This will include the long promised male D/s pimp) You will be able to access that quest as a prostitute or beggar and it will lead to opportunities for evil player RP.

 

I will also resume working on Hospitality which has a lot of interesting potential for character stuff.

[vaultbait]

9 minutes ago, Tentacus said:

There will be some new BDSM content for Isabel, a little bit of character content with named customers but nothing too deep. After this update I will probably consider Hardship "finished" Though I will be making an addon pack of sorts which will add a few new characters, and new mechanics and will be slave trade focused. (This will include the long promised male D/s pimp) You will be able to access that quest as a prostitute or beggar and it will lead to opportunities for evil player RP.

I can't remember, did you ever decide to include a feature for rapists to unequip your FPE condoms and bad boyfriends to steal your FPE condoms/contraceptives? I enjoy some of the forced insemination lines in the rape scenes, but feel like it could get even wilder if there were some corresponding breeding frenzy type responses mixed in with the submissive/painslut answer options.

 

I feel like I can't thank you enough for working on, sharing and expanding this mod. What you've done with it so far is downright unbelievable.