AAF HARDSHIP - beggar- whore -

[Tentacus]

2 minutes ago, KennedyMadeIt said:

Bug Report:

 

If you have already done something with a follower for the day and you end up getting cuffed, you can't get the cuffs dialog from them.

Ohhhh You mean if they are in cooldown? Good catch.... Yeah that makes sense... when I added the kinky sex stuff I didn't account for that.

[dagobaking]

19 hours ago, phillout said:

AAF has almost 6k hits in one year for a similar query. 

Yeah. First year. Wake me up when we get to year 7 and can look again.

 

It's a free mod. If you don't like it. Don't use it.

 

[5250 is closer to 5k than 6k. And that's for 17 months. 1.5 years. So, it turns out to be around 3500 hits per year. Just math FWIW.]

[Celedhring]

Would the procedure for updating from 1.0.7 to 1.5 consist of uninstalling 1.0.7 mod, install  1.5 mod  OR uninstall 1.0.7 mod,  clean save and install 1.5?

 

And why the jump from 1.0.7 to 1.5? Just wondering about the numbering..it always makes me wonder if I missed something in between which I'm pretty sure I didn't. XD

[Tentacus]

25 minutes ago, Celedhring said:

Would the procedure for updating from 1.0.7 to 1.5 consist of uninstalling 1.0.7 mod, install  1.5 mod  OR uninstall 1.0.7 mod,  clean save and install 1.5?

 

And why the jump from 1.0.7 to 1.5? Just wondering about the numbering..it always makes me wonder if I missed something in between which I'm pretty sure I didn't. XD

I don't think it needs a clean save. Though I suggest you drop your menu object so it respawns in your inventory to reset that script otherwise some of the toggleable options might break.

 

As far as the version leap... It's because there is about half a mod's worth of changes Added. Originally 1.0.8 was gonna be basically a bugfix with a couple of extra features added, and I was gonna go dark for a long time and release a 2.0 with a bunch of crazy new stuff.... then I went insane and did half that stuff now... so... yeah 1.5.

 

Unfortunately it's got half a mod's worth of bugs too it seems

[Tentacus]

Update:

 

I already fixed the spam problems with the main script. If the issue with cooldowns is as straightforward as I think I might upload a patch before I go to bed.

[Tentacus]

Hey @izzyknows If you can load the bugged save where you can't talk to people, can you type this in the console for me and tell me what it says?

 

GetGlobalValue _T_CuffedWrists

[Tentacus]

With the mod being nearly 30 megs now I'm gonna be releasing patches for small bug fix updates. Obviously you still need the main 1.5 file. If installing with MO2, just install the patch and make sure it's folder is lower than the main one in the left pane or merge it DO NOT REPLACE.

 

This fixes the log spam and hopefully the cooldown problem for companions (It expected you to have the _T_Lover Keyword, but if you were whoring to your follower rather than giving it for free You wouldn't have that.

[izzyknows]

@Tentacus The way BW & Raider Pet worked before (for ME)... which was flawless btw.

Example: Unarmed ie: no weapons at all
BW active..
On first interaction, Menacing Raider would trigger Raider Pet dialogue... collared..sex...
On second interaction (same Menacing Raider) BW would play out and another Menacing Raider show up cheering & waiting their turn. Working normal.

IF you chose to "Fight", BW would "deactivate" and the Menacing Raider would walk away and become a "normal" raider. (Menacing Raiders never attacked "unarmed" PC)

 

While collared, I could toggle BW as much as I wanted with no issues, code wise. Sex via BW doesn't reset the RP collar timer, obviously.

IF, I had picked up any weapon the Menacing Raider would attack... PC would lose, Violate would trigger... MR would attack again... Violate would trigger..... really rough time for the PC. LOL

 

I have noticed a new white screen flash just as the very first (and only the first) sex scene starts via RP or Violate, like BW is trying to popup a dialogue.

Anywho... I'll fire up the game in a bit and fiddle fart around.

 

[Sillius_Maximus]

So besides the unofficial fallout patch- i have only the bare essentials for this mod.

 

If i read correct - we shouldn't install "one patch"  as far as this mod is correct?  Most of the ideas / questions here stem from designing a male/female character around a harley quinn type crazy.... so she might let you fuck her, but after your done she might "bite down"  or  she might lure you into a room, fuck you, bite down, and then rob you before she leaves..

 

1)  dick biting - so pretty much only someone that would rape you qualifies... meaning Preston Garvey (cant seem to get him to rape me) 

      idea -- >  institute clit biting as well. and perhaps give the option regardless of consent?

 

2) raiders - a menacing raider might talk to you, but then again he or she might not and opt to shoot? (meaning, you cant always talk to menacing raiders when you see the "raider is menacing prompt")?    If a menacing raider is 100% supposed to talk to you.. im not sure what im missing...  im naked, unarmed, and press "activate" to no avail?

3) Predator dialogue...  

       It seems- regardless of player gender - that If i go down the predator dialogue chain, there is no "sex scene."    why not   "[predator] ---> [sex scene and usual stuff] -->[kill/rob/enslave]"

 

 

Regardless, great work  It is definitely a lot better so far than previous versions.

 

 

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, Tentacus said:

Hey @izzyknows If you can load the bugged save where you can't talk to people, can you type this in the console for me and tell me what it says?

 

GetGlobalValue _T_CuffedWrists

It returns 0.00

[galgat]

1. First attempt AAF would not load proper.

2. looking through the thread I found removing the Leto XML from the one patch was a fix of sorts

3. so I removed the Leto XML's from the one patch and then AAF loaded and the mod seemed to work fine, except for one immersive problem

4. All the men have flaccid Penis.. Strap on do right though.

 

5. I have ran Violate, sexual harassment, and many other mods have not had this problem.  I am sure it is something I need to change as I can see others are running this no problem.

 

6. Was just wondering what I have to do to get it to where the men get and erection? And also AAF load's proper?

 

 

[izzyknows]

@Tentacus Seems there's a toggle issue with the backpacks. I don't use em and always toggle Backpack Stripping Off. Now it causes an error when turned Off, but goes away when turned On.

I've also narrowed the loss of dialogue down to the "Fight" choice. I can manually toggle BW at any time with no issues, regardless of being collared or not, but as soon as Fight is chosen and BW auto toggles, shite goes south.

 

BTW.... fucking AWESOME job on the new content!!! Pardon my French... but it was required!

[isanchez]

The new version doesn't work for me. No animations are started.
To test it, I pressed Home and then looked for actors. The search stopped after 1 second.
I uninstalled Hardship and everything went well again.

Any idea?

[Yazour]

Love this mod.

 

[izzyknows]

8 hours ago, Tentacus said:

So wait, you're sayng it called a doggy animation, but all the popups were Cunnilingus related? The only way that could happen is if themes or possibly @Ulfbearth's one patch patch has the wrong tag assigned? I dunno as I'm not familiar with Greysusers pack. 

I don't think it's a themes related problem and I don't use One Patch.
It only happens on the first call for Cunnilingus, which after further testing BW calls a totally random animation to start. After that the animations & dialogue are correct.. ie: kissing, rocket 69, cunnilingus....

So a FF carpet munching scene goes like so..

random animation > cunnilingus dialogue (if a leito aggressive happens to play, I get the handcuff popup)
kiss me > make out animation

make me cum > cunnilingus animation
 

So far the strap on scenes seem to be fine.

[Tentacus]

2 hours ago, izzyknows said:

I don't think it's a themes related problem and I don't use One Patch.
It only happens on the first call for Cunnilingus, which after further testing BW calls a totally random animation to start. After that the animations & dialogue are correct.. ie: kissing, rocket 69, cunnilingus....

So a FF carpet munching scene goes like so..

random animation > cunnilingus dialogue (if a leito aggressive happens to play, I get the handcuff popup)
kiss me > make out animation

make me cum > cunnilingus animation
 

So far the strap on scenes seem to be fine.

Well I will have a look at that but I dunno that anything has changed there. ?

 

3 hours ago, isanchez said:

The new version doesn't work for me. No animations are started.
To test it, I pressed Home and then looked for actors. The search stopped after 1 second.
I uninstalled Hardship and everything went well again.

Any idea?

That's gotta be a coincidence...  Harship can't interfere with the core AAF functionality like that... (That I can conceive of)

 

4 hours ago, izzyknows said:

@Tentacus Seems there's a toggle issue with the backpacks. I don't use em and always toggle Backpack Stripping Off. Now it causes an error when turned Off, but goes away when turned On.

Do you mean a log error.... I mean does it ACTUALLY hurt anything? This is an honest question because I've gotten this far without caring about log errors. ? Not that I won't fix one if pushed in the right direction, but I'm more concerned with things that have a trangible impact.

 

4 hours ago, izzyknows said:

I've also narrowed the loss of dialogue down to the "Fight" choice. I can manually toggle BW at any time with no issues, regardless of being collared or not, but as soon as Fight is chosen and BW auto toggles, shite goes south.

Is this only when already cuffed, or any time? and do you mean the before rape fight or the mid rape fight?

 

6 hours ago, galgat said:

4. All the men have flaccid Penis.. Strap on do right though.

5. I have ran Violate, sexual harassment, and many other mods have not had this problem.  I am sure it is something I need to change as I can see others are running this no problem.

6. Was just wondering what I have to do to get it to where the men get and erection? And also AAF load's proper?

 

One thing that can account for this is that my mod changes positions a lot. During Position start or position change is when the (native AAF) Flaccid bug occurs. It seems entirely random when or why it happens beyond that. Sometimes I can go many days without seeing one... some days it's all erectile dysfunction all the time. Either way this is something inherent to either AAF or more likely looksmenu's Morph system and not a Hardship bug per see, It's just that the way Hardship works exposes it more sometimes. 

 

If you were never getting an erection then I'd assume it was a body issue, but since you said it works with the AAF window I think it's the former.

 

4 hours ago, izzyknows said:

BTW.... fucking AWESOME job on the new content!!! Pardon my French... but it was required!

 

2 hours ago, Yazour said:

Love this mod.

Thanks! I'm trying to make it the best! (In terms of gameplay if not polish ? )

 

 

[Tentacus]

8 hours ago, izzyknows said:

@Tentacus The way BW & Raider Pet worked before (for ME)... which was flawless btw.

Example: Unarmed ie: no weapons at all
BW active..
On first interaction, Menacing Raider would trigger Raider Pet dialogue... collared..sex...
On second interaction (same Menacing Raider) BW would play out and another Menacing Raider show up cheering & waiting their turn. Working normal.

IF you chose to "Fight", BW would "deactivate" and the Menacing Raider would walk away and become a "normal" raider. (Menacing Raiders never attacked "unarmed" PC)

 

While collared, I could toggle BW as much as I wanted with no issues, code wise. Sex via BW doesn't reset the RP collar timer, obviously.

IF, I had picked up any weapon the Menacing Raider would attack... PC would lose, Violate would trigger... MR would attack again... Violate would trigger..... really rough time for the PC. LOL

I'm really stumped by that as I haven't changed that surrender code at all since before 1.0.0 (That I can remember). More important question... Have there been any new releases of Raider Pet?

8 hours ago, izzyknows said:

I have noticed a new white screen flash just as the very first (and only the first) sex scene starts via RP or Violate, like BW is trying to popup a dialogue.

Anywho... I'll fire up the game in a bit and fiddle fart around.

I know what this is. This is because of my new before sex messages. The ones where raiders put cuffs on you and customers react to your before sex choices. Those messages only show if a variable is set by my sex scripts (just like with the ending sex messages) and the white fade only shows if BW mode is on. I hadn't accounted for people leaving BW mode on with Raider Pet. I'[ll rewrite how the fades are set up. 

 

That said THAT isn't hurting anything other than being annoying.

[Tentacus]

8 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

So besides the unofficial fallout patch- i have only the bare essentials for this mod.

 

If i read correct - we shouldn't install "one patch"  as far as this mod is correct?  Most of the ideas / questions here stem from designing a male/female character around a harley quinn type crazy.... so she might let you fuck her, but after your done she might "bite down"  or  she might lure you into a room, fuck you, bite down, and then rob you before she leaves..

You can install one patch and there are advantages to doing so if you are using newer bodies like Bodytalk 2. If you do install One Patch you need to remove all the Leito XMLs that One Patch installs, and you still need the Patches from my requirements as well.

8 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

 

1)  dick biting - so pretty much only someone that would rape you qualifies... meaning Preston Garvey (cant seem to get him to rape me) 

      idea -- >  institute clit biting as well. and perhaps give the option regardless of consent?

You know I did consider clit biting  I think I went with headbutting her in the cooch.

 

As far as doing that outside rape... Maybe... eventually. If it isn't too hard to patch in ?

8 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

 

2) raiders - a menacing raider might talk to you, but then again he or she might not and opt to shoot? (meaning, you cant always talk to menacing raiders when you see the "raider is menacing prompt")?    If a menacing raider is 100% supposed to talk to you.. im not sure what im missing...  im naked, unarmed, and press "activate" to no avail?

Make sure the raider you are trying to talk to has the words "menacing raider" over their head. It can get confusing in a crowd.

8 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

3) Predator dialogue...  

       It seems- regardless of player gender - that If i go down the predator dialogue chain, there is no "sex scene."    why not   "[predator] ---> [sex scene and usual stuff] -->[kill/rob/enslave]"

Predator mode is half-baked at best... A buggy mess at worst. Use at your own risk. Eventually it'll be simplified to a way to get them in cuffs, and replaced with an entire mod.

8 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

Regardless, great work  It is definitely a lot better so far than previous versions.

Thanks!

[Baldazza]

hi, i tried to upgrade the mod but it seem that the 1.5 make AAF stop working, i can't even open it via wizard, rolling back to the 1.0.7 and AAF started to work normaly again. Any idea how i could fix that? 

 

i see that @galgat as a similar problem but i didn't touch any XML yet.

[mashup47]

34 minutes ago, Tentacus said:

I hadn't accounted for people leaving BW mode on with Raider Pet.

 I Never turn it off unless I feel a need to do a quest.

[Yazour]

I am curious.  Is this a bug or a feature?  If I am sneaking about in BWmode raiders can see through stealth (and walls) and will rush over to menace me.  Wouldn't it make more sense for them to have to detect me before they decide to menace me?

[Tentacus]

24 minutes ago, Baldazza said:

hi, i tried to upgrade the mod but it seem that the 1.5 make AAF stop working, i can't even open it via wizard, rolling back to the 1.0.7 and AAF started to work normaly again. Any idea how i could fix that? 

 

i see that @galgat as a similar problem but i didn't touch any XML yet.

Okay 2 instances is concerning. I'll look into it. If it's my fault it's almost certainly an XML issue. Otherwise maybe try playing with your load orders?

 

[Tentacus]

2 minutes ago, Yazour said:

I am curious.  Is this a bug or a feature?  If I am sneaking about in BWmode raiders can see through stealth (and walls) and will rush over to menace me.  Wouldn't it make more sense for them to have to detect me before they decide to menace me?

Feature.  They don't need LOS to find you. We've tried messing with it but there's really no good way. If you wanna stealth raiders just turn BW mode off and use a different raider AAF mod for those parts like violate or CSA.

[Tentacus]

@Baldazza @galgat

 

I haven't been able to reproduce your AAF shortcut problem. It works for me... indoors, outdoors, with BW mode on or off. 

 

      

 

My next question is are you on the newest version of AAF..? because I am not! I am still running the previous Fallout and F4SE version. I'll probably bite the bullet and update in a few days after the bug reports slow down.

[Baldazza]

@Tentacus yep i have FO4, F4SE and AAF all update to the latest version. To be fair i wish i hadn't but i forgot to turn off the autoupdate on steam. ?