OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

Feedback latest version of Utility Plus, mainly Expression System:

 

1. OpenMouth

Why in the world is there now Combat Shout / Combat Anger in the Open Mouth?
This completly destroys the expression system since ofc the other active expression is overwritten,

So for example I can now NOT have a sad face when the mouth is open. I can only have a very angry or an angry face.

 

-> OpenMouth should ONLY change the phonemes applied, not the expression. By combining different phonemes it is possible to open the mouth far enough already, no need for COmbat Shout/Anger

 

2. Expression Copy Stage

The existing Expressions I cannot copy the stages between them, I think that worked before somehow. I have to edit every stage individually again (might be I miss something tho?!)

 

3. BUG: cant change back the "Use Alt Face expression"

The toggle for both male and female is a one way ticket for me. When I toggle it I cannot untoggle it again, I m stuck on the alt option

 

 

Sad Face Expression (without OPEN MOUTH -> just normal phonemes I want for that expression) 

 

 

The SAME expression as above, but with Open Mouth (so we only see here the Combat Anger expression + the phonemes I applied, the only thing left from the above expression is the "look up", everything else is destroyed.

 

Is always being the"Combat Shout" expression for the OpenMouth because is the only expression that open the mouth by default without any extra Phoneme. I added the "Combat Angry" expression just because some TRI files have problems with the "Combat Shout" expression as temporarily measure untill the user get a fixed TRI file.

 

I know the Open Mouth DLL allow you set any expression mood for the OpenMouth but that is conflictive on the case where the user set some of the SexLab Expressions with the same Mod and similar Values because is going to be detected and treated as OpenMouth too. For the same reason I forbid the use of the "Combat Shout" and "Combat Angry" as Mood for the SexLab Expressions.

Also I can't make the open mouth use only the Phoneme, for the same reason. Since will be almost imposible prevent that some user set similar Phoneme values on one of the SexLab Expressions. The key for the correct detection of the OpenMouth is the Mood type used.

 

2. When you add some new stage for the Expression the system automatically shows you one notification asking if you want to copy the previous stage of the current Expression. Is only when you are adding the new stage.

I did some fixes there and not sure if I fully check it after that, so I will check.

 

3. I will check. But for now you can reset the configuration because the open mouth is not one Expression and is saved on the configuration file. By the way remember export the your modified Expressions because that way will be automatically imported the next time you reset the Expressions or use the Clean System.

 

Interesting screenshot...

My OpenMouth don't look angry but I suppose is because you are stoked with the "Combat Angry" mood (the alternative OpenMouth)

 

Still yo can play with the "Sad" Expression configuration and set the right and left eyebrows Modifiers with high Values and that way the open mouth for the Sad Expression will look Sad too

Edited June 21, 2021 by OsmelMC

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

 

this sounds very good in theory (in fact perfect, when I understand this correctly), but it is for me not the case. with lip sync on the lips do not move at all. They dont open or close one bit. 

 

any possibiltiy that we will be able to customize this via MCM? especially the enjoyment thing is extremly annoying for me since I dont care for that stuff at all and have primarily non-consensual and thus medium sound. 
I would want the maximum amount of "effect" in that scenario (without it beeing the snapping fish mouth from last version, hehe). 
or in fact beeing able to customize would be perfect (like a "minimum enjoyment for open mouth" slider or something...) or "Enjoyment rate on Non-Consensual" 

Yeah. I'm probably end making some advanced configuration for the LipSync too because the amount of test needed to find the best values is a lot. And like the Open Mouth every user will prefer his own configuration values.

 

For more references you can see the "MoveLips" values on the papyrus log. 

 

In my defense I have to say that I was trying to set the best values to make the movements of the lips discreet but not that much that end being almost unperceived. The problem was that I almost give up with the fish mouth issue and the current values are from previous test were the issue cause the mouth open too much and too fast. I just was too tired to try more values. 

 

The lips movement is too complicated for one round fight. My test prove that if I use the same Phoneme for all the Expressions to make the lips movement, will work fine with some Expressions but will have terribly consequences with others. At the end I noticed that was more related with the values of the rest of Phoneme that I was not setting. By divine inspiration cross my mind use the last biggest valued Phoneme from those already settled on the actor and by miracle work without issues beyond the lowest values that I have to change.

 

 

[OsmelMC]

PS: I name "The Divine inspiration", "The Zone" and "The muses" the moment wen I am trying to make a script too complicated or without apparently solution, and without be able to explain how works and usually without be sure of what I'm writing at the end always work.

 

The sort actor and creature functions was made that way. So yes, God works in mysterious ways and apparently also likes the SexLab. 

 

 

By the way I'm not religious. In fact atheist.

Anyway:

 

[Nymra]

some more detailed answers later, I just played football/soccer for 2,5 hours and I am DEAD (also never felt so alive since corona hit...)

But in short:

No pressure here, I just give feedback when I find the issues, its totally neutral and not meant to be pressuriszing for demanding. I make the notes while playing with alt tab mostly or I forget too much. 
Also expressions is my one thing that I cherish the most in animations, since they make the PC alive like nothing else.

I did not notice that Combat Shout and Combat Anger are no longer available for normal expressions, hmm, kinda sad, I had 2-3 expressions set up with them to get the face of a real brat at work
I wonder if we could have a small option to trigger "Open Mouth" at random on a stage even when its not called from the SLAL to get more variety. And now I die on the couch
 

good work, keep it up, you do gods work here, atheist or not, hehe. Sexlab is in dire need of these updates and I await SLU+ updates like no other mods. 

[OsmelMC]

55 minutes ago, Nymra said:

I wonder if we could have a small option to trigger "Open Mouth" at random on a stage even when its not called from the SLAL to get more variety.

 

"SexLab Survival" already have that and is compatible with the SLU+. In fact the options are already on the SLU+ and anyone can trigger it from his Mods but I don't have the intention to add that to the configuration. Nevertheless I did add the capacity to the OpenMouth funciona on the "SexLabFramework.psc" of the SexLab GitHub version the capacity to force the OpenMouth on the Animations. So once be released will be very common see Mods like DDi and "SexLab Suvirval" using it. By the way is better than the one used by the Suvirval right now.

 

Right now you can also add something like that to some is the SexLab Expression Phases and together with the "Refresh Expression" option will be mostly random. I have more than one Expression with phases with mouth open very similar to the OpenMouth.

 

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

No pressure here, I just give feedback when I find the issues, its totally neutral and not meant to be pressuriszing for demanding.

Is good have feedback so quickly. I already fix la mayoría of the problems you pointed thanks to that and if nothing new comes out, will be released tomorrow. 

 

On this version I was really expecting some SLSO related feedback. But nothing until now.

[Nymra]

21 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

 

"SexLab Survival" already have that and is compatible with the SLU+. In fact the options are already on the SLU+ and anyone can trigger it from his Mods but I don't have the intention to add that to the configuration. Nevertheless I did add the capacity to the OpenMouth funciona on the "SexLabFramework.psc" of the SexLab GitHub version the capacity to force the OpenMouth on the Animations. So once be released will be very common see Mods like DDi and "SexLab Suvirval" using it. By the way is better than the one used by the Suvirval right now.

 

yeah, SL Surival, hmm, it really has some nice features, but I always end up using only 1 or 2, so its not currently in my LO. 

but that aside...

yeah, I will explore that and gladly add Open Mouth to Naked Defeat to make the PC more livelike during punishment. 

Thx for point that out. 

 

21 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

 

Right now you can also add something like that to some is the SexLab Expression Phases and together with the "Refresh Expression" option will be mostly random. I have more than one Expression with phases with mouth open very similar to the OpenMouth.

 

ah, forgot to test the random expression on the latest version, will have to check alter.

 

21 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

On this version I was really expecting some SLSO related feedback. But nothing until now.

 

I dont use SLSO, so I cant give feedback for it. But I always want to try... one day.. haha

 

 

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Yeah. I'm probably end making some advanced configuration for the LipSync too because the amount of test needed to find the best values is a lot. And like the Open Mouth every user will prefer his own configuration values.

 

For more references you can see the "MoveLips" values on the papyrus log. 

 

In my defense I have to say that I was trying to set the best values to make the movements of the lips discreet but not that much that end being almost unperceived. The problem was that I almost give up with the fish mouth issue and the current values are from previous test were the issue cause the mouth open too much and too fast. I just was too tired to try more values. 

 

The lips movement is too complicated for one round fight. My test prove that if I use the same Phoneme for all the Expressions to make the lips movement, will work fine with some Expressions but will have terribly consequences with others. At the end I noticed that was more related with the values of the rest of Phoneme that I was not setting. By divine inspiration cross my mind use the last biggest valued Phoneme from those already settled on the actor and by miracle work without issues beyond the lowest values that I have to change.

 

 

hmm, I noticed most ppl want open mouth for their animations, but not exclusivly.

 

Maybe we can add a "Lip Sync" slider for each Expression (Sad, Joy...) or even to every stage. 
The slider then says -100 to 0 and then +100 for either close mouth by the amount on "Moan" or open mouth on the amount. 
Just an idea based on the "100% amount" open mouth slider.

 

 

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Is always being the"Combat Shout" expression for the OpenMouth because is the only expression that open the mouth by default without any extra Phoneme. I added the "Combat Angry" expression just because some TRI files have problems with the "Combat Shout" expression as temporarily measure untill the user get a fixed TRI file.

 

 

I know the Open Mouth DLL allow you set any expression mood for the OpenMouth but that is conflictive on the case where the user set some of the SexLab Expressions with the same Mod and similar Values because is going to be detected and treated as OpenMouth too. For the same reason I forbid the use of the "Combat Shout" and "Combat Angry" as Mood for the SexLab Expressions.

Also I can't make the open mouth use only the Phoneme, for the same reason. Since will be almost imposible prevent that some user set similar Phoneme values on one of the SexLab Expressions. The key for the correct detection of the OpenMouth is the Mood type used.

 

not sure if I understand all that correctly, its just the open mouth DLL was practically a perfect world somehow and managed to handle the expression + open mouth quite well. But I never dug deeper into the scripts and functions to really see, I just remember that I had my expressions working 100% plus the DLL opened the mouth with a combination of phonemes (I use for open mouth for example 1:100, 2:100, 5:100, 10:100. 
I never needed Combat Shout or Anger to achieve a good open mouth and I still dont see the necessity to do that in the first place, hmm. 

(see 3.)

 

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2. When you add some new stage for the Expression the system automatically shows you one notification asking if you want to copy the previous stage of the current Expression. Is only when you are adding the new stage.

I did some fixes there and not sure if I fully check it after that, so I will check.

 

ah ok yes I remember.
I think my problem was that I could not DELETE the stages already in existence. All my expressions have 5 stages by now and somehow I cannot remove the female phase anymore to built the expressions up from scratch.

I already thought about just working with the exported files directly. 

 

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3. I will check. But for now you can reset the configuration because the open mouth is not one Expression and is saved on the configuration file. By the way remember export the your modified Expressions because that way will be automatically imported the next time you reset the Expressions or use the Clean System.

 

Interesting screenshot...

My OpenMouth don't look angry but I suppose is because you are stoked with the "Combat Angry" mood (the alternative OpenMouth)

 

Still yo can play with the "Sad" Expression configuration and set the right and left eyebrows Modifiers with high Values and that way the open mouth for the Sad Expression will look Sad too

 

in the screenshot it is the normal setting (Alternate is not ticked, with Alternate Expression for Open Mouth it looks like this (see below).

I already raised the eyebrows to the max in that screenshot, but it still looks angry.

I m also growing very tired of the MFG function, it is just so fucking limited. Racemenu has so many more options, is there really no way to somehow hack into them using that in the game?

With Racemenu I can create expressions 1000% better than the MFG ones it feels... too bad

Screenshot open mouth with my "Pained" Test Expression + Alternate Open Mouth ticked

the mouth opening is much less here, but the anger is also less. 
But at the same time the "sad" parts of the expression are not really visible, plus they eyebrows are not rising up.

Will test some more tho. 

 

Btw: any chance we can have random eye movement?
static eyes is one of my biggest concerns most of the time. I even used external mods "Random Expression" to achieve eye movement and it mostly worked quite well, hmm. 

 

also sucks hard that we cannot move the teeth differently than the lips or make the eyes look inwards (ahego or whatever they call it these days).

 

expressions like this (open lips, teeth closed. But maybe I just dod not hit the right spot creating them yet with MFG. If somebody manged to achieve that... please tell me
(the expression on the girl on the right)

 

Edited June 22, 2021 by Nymra

[Cicro72]

I updated to 20210620_B. Mouth expressions during Sexlab scenes did not work. I tried reseting expressions. No luck. Unsure if this if a mod issue or has been addressed. I see it mentioned above.

 

I use SLSO. Could you let me know the changes to look for? I didn't see mention in the changelog.

 

Presently I'm using SLSO with Hentai Pregnancy and Deadly Drain. I play a male MC and like to keep the orgasms rolling.

 

I also use Sexlab Manual Strip, which Hawk created. This allows stripping and redressing while the animation is playing. Any thought to include this functionality, perhaps with a toggle? I like the current strip or don't strip features, but also like the hands on control, like SLU+ provides with animations.

[OsmelMC]

@Nymra

Sadly the facial Expression are controlled by the TRI files and MFG can deal only with the general variables in order to keep the compatibility. 

The reason why I don't have angry face on the OpenMouth is just because I'm using different TRI files but my TRI files make the teeth get bit out of the mouth for on the OpenMouth at lease I use the Alternative OpenMouth and in that case look angry. Also my current Female TRI files don't allow me open the mouth at the size I need for the muscular penises. Some things are beyond my control, but like one old ex coworker always said "The day I be president of the world, I will solve that ?".

If you learn the way to edit the TRI files you can make any additional adjustments to the Expression Mood you like.

 

About the eyes movement you can do something like that on the SexLab Expressions too. I think nothing is blocking that but I have to check.

[OsmelMC]

4 minutes ago, Cicro72 said:

I updated to 20210620_B. Mouth expressions during Sexlab scenes did not work. I tried reseting expressions. No luck. Unsure if this if a mod issue or has been addressed. I see it mentioned above.

 

I use SLSO. Could you let me know the changes to look for? I didn't see mention in the changelog.

 

Presently I'm using SLSO with Hentai Pregnancy and Deadly Drain. I play a male MC and like to keep the orgasms rolling.

 

I also use Sexlab Manual Strip, which Hawk created. This allows stripping and redressing while the animation is playing. Any thought to include this functionality, perhaps with a toggle? I like the current strip or don't strip features, but also like the hands on control, like SLU+ provides with animations.

Send me the Papyrus log file

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, Cicro72 said:

I updated to 20210620_B. Mouth expressions during Sexlab scenes did not work. I tried reseting expressions. No luck. Unsure if this if a mod issue or has been addressed. I see it mentioned above.

 

I use SLSO. Could you let me know the changes to look for? I didn't see mention in the changelog.

 

Presently I'm using SLSO with Hentai Pregnancy and Deadly Drain. I play a male MC and like to keep the orgasms rolling.

 

I also use Sexlab Manual Strip, which Hawk created. This allows stripping and redressing while the animation is playing. Any thought to include this functionality, perhaps with a toggle? I like the current strip or don't strip features, but also like the hands on control, like SLU+ provides with animations.

The log said that you apparently have the right Scripts but for some reason the array for the OpenMouth is empty even when the function to make and fill this array was executed already.

 

Also 2 more things I noticed:

1. You seem to be using a old version of the "SexLab UtilityPlus.esp" file that don't support "Horizontal Pole's". The Horizontal Pole is not important but the fact that you are using a older version of the file it is. If is intentionally better try with the new one, but if is not intentionally you will have to manually install the file and probably all the Mod because that means that your Mod Manager is ignoring files on the installation.

 

2. You don't seem to have the "Dragonborn.esm" installed. Not relevant for the SLU+ but relevant for the installation process because the setup can't automatically detect the Skyrim version. So install the SLU+ again and make sure of select the option that match your Skyrim versión (LE or SE)

 

 

 

Also make sure that none of the SLU+ files is being override by any other Mod and execute the "Clean System" option to complete the update process once you end with the previous recommendations.

[Guest]

Hi folks,

 

I'm seeing an odd behavior in my admittedly massive mod list that seems isolated to the most recent version of SLUP, specifically for SE. All SLUP configuration options are set to their default values, and the game is a freshly started new game.

 

Orgasms no longer occur. (Specifically, with SLUP installed, no one orgasms, the screen does not shake, no cum is applied, SLACS doesn't detect or apply additional layers, and so on. As soon as I remove it, the orgasms return.) 

 

This happens with or without separate orgasms checked, and without SLSO installed. According to MO2 no files are overwriting SLUP, and SLUP is overwriting default Sexlab files.

 

I've resolved it locally by just reverting SLUP to the previous version, but I do appreciate the changes you're trying to make, so please let me know if there's any more specific information I can provide to assist in troubleshooting.

 

A side note: I am also seeing some oddities around expressions (they seem muted, or significantly less than they were previously), but I haven't been able to pin them down well enough to provide more information than Nymra's already given you.

 

Thanks for all your hard work,

[OsmelMC]

8 hours ago, transfer said:

Hi folks,

 

I'm seeing an odd behavior in my admittedly massive mod list that seems isolated to the most recent version of SLUP, specifically for SE. All SLUP configuration options are set to their default values, and the game is a freshly started new game.

 

Orgasms no longer occur. (Specifically, with SLUP installed, no one orgasms, the screen does not shake, no cum is applied, SLACS doesn't detect or apply additional layers, and so on. As soon as I remove it, the orgasms return.) 

 

This happens with or without separate orgasms checked, and without SLSO installed. According to MO2 no files are overwriting SLUP, and SLUP is overwriting default Sexlab files.

 

I've resolved it locally by just reverting SLUP to the previous version, but I do appreciate the changes you're trying to make, so please let me know if there's any more specific information I can provide to assist in troubleshooting.

 

A side note: I am also seeing some oddities around expressions (they seem muted, or significantly less than they were previously), but I haven't been able to pin them down well enough to provide more information than Nymra's already given you.

 

Thanks for all your hard work,

The shake camera only happen on the player orgasm when is not on free camera and also the new option for "Shake Camera Straight" need to be bigger than 0. 

 

The orgasm now depends of the actor enjoyment with or without the separate orgasm. So you have to play the Animation for some time before the actors reach the enjoyment required for the orgasm, the time needed depends of each Actors sex skills and the scene type, for example on Aggressive scenes the Aggressor enjoy normal but the victim suffer pain instead of enjoyment at lease his skills made it sex addict and in that case the enjoyment will be bigger than the pain.

 

Send me the Papyrus log.

Edited June 22, 2021 by OsmelMC

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

The shake camera only happen on the player orgasm when is not on free camera and also the new option for "Shake Camera Straight" need to be bigger than 0. 

 

The orgasm now depends of the actor enjoyment with or without the separate orgasm. So you have to play the Animation for some time before the actors reach the enjoyment required for the orgasm, the time needed depends of each Actors sex skills and the scene type, for example on Aggressive scenes the Aggressor enjoy normal but the victim suffer pain instead of enjoyment at lease his skills made it sex addict and in that case the enjoyment will be bigger than the pain.

 

Send me the Papyrus log.

 

Excellent, thanks for that information. I'll see if I can replicate the behavior you describe!

[OsmelMC]

15 hours ago, Nymra said:

I think my problem was that I could not DELETE the stages already in existence. All my expressions have 5 stages by now and somehow I cannot remove the female phase anymore to built the expressions up from scratch.

I already check that and is fine. But you can only remove the last Phase of each gender so you have to remove Phase by Phase starting from the last one if you want to clean the Expression.

[Nymra]

9 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

I already check that and is fine. But you can only remove the last Phase of each gender so you have to remove Phase by Phase starting from the last one if you want to clean the Expression.

aaaah lol
yes of course, makes sense somehow. 

thx

[Nymra]

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•  Enhance the Moaning and LipSync. Now:
  • Update the MoveLips function values to make the Moaning LipSync more visible.
  • Prevent the Moaning for enjoyment lesser than 30 because the lips almost don't move under that value and is better just prevent the moaning.
• Added option to the setup for the Extended version without the extra animations slots for those users with CTD when try to install the Extra version.

 

how does enjoyment work in non-consensual situations?
and can I somehow see the enjoyment value that is current?

as stated before, I never really cared for enjoyment, since I use non consensual mostly which only use medium voice.
I would love to set the enjoyment to 100 as a fixed value to just be sure it does not mess stuff up, since hidden values like that are often more annoying than helpfull, sadly

EDIT:
Btw I already noticed that the male aggressors did not orgasm on my godlenshower since it is capped at 20 seconds in a total of 3 stages (good thing ofc, just wanted to report that back)

Edited June 22, 2021 by Nymra

[Suke23]

So I tend to always ctd when cleaning the system after updating and can ever really only update Utility Plus when I start a new game. The CTD always occurs as soon as sexlab finishes fully updating and the notification pops up. This seems to not be a reported issue so I assume it's an issue on my end or maybe I'm messing something up that you may know of this is also with the Normal version and not the Extra and on SE.

Also provided netscript text

Crash.txt

Edited June 22, 2021 by Suke23

[thedarkone1234]

The recent talks about the LipSync option got me confused. Can/Should it be enabled while the expressions are enabled too? I am asking because on the one hand, in unmodded sexlab it says not to enable both, but on the other hand (and I got too confused trying to follow the last conversation about all these stuff) it seems the same people who use the expressions use the LipSync as well here XD

 

Bottom line, do I enable only one or both? If only one, which? XD

 

 

On an unrelated note, would you guys recommend starting a new game now (a new version of utility is usually a great enough reason for me to do so), or is it likely a core mod like DD or sexlab itself are getting updated soon enough to be worth waiting a little more?

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

 

how does enjoyment work in non-consensual situations?
and can I somehow see the enjoyment value that is current?

as stated before, I never really cared for enjoyment, since I use non consensual mostly which only use medium voice.
I would love to set the enjoyment to 100 as a fixed value to just be sure it does not mess stuff up, since hidden values like that are often more annoying than helpfull, sadly

EDIT:
Btw I already noticed that the male aggressors did not orgasm on my godlenshower since it is capped at 20 seconds in a total of 3 stages (good thing ofc, just wanted to report that back)

Search for BaseEnjoyment on the logs. I not sure if I keep the logs for the enjoyment but if I keep it the should be showed together with the BaseEnjoyment. By the way if the BaseEnjoyment start being or is negative means that the actor is probably a victim on a Aggressive scene or hates his partner. If the BaseEnjoyment become positive after being negative means that beside the previous status some of the Actors have enough skills to make the other enjoy. 

 

You don't have too worry about the enjoyment because I did a lot of test just to be sure that was harmless. The only thing I'm not controlling is when all the Actors have sex skills too high and in theory with the separate orgasm enabled the male can have too much orgasms on long scenes. But that is just odd. I probably should set a limit but where?

 

[OsmelMC]

40 minutes ago, Suke23 said:

So I tend to always ctd when cleaning the system after updating and can ever really only update Utility Plus when I start a new game. The CTD always occurs as soon as sexlab finishes fully updating and the notification pops up. This seems to not be a reported issue so I assume it's an issue on my end or maybe I'm messing something up that you may know of this is also with the Normal version and not the Extra and on SE.

Also provided netscript text

Crash.txt 6.75 MB · 3 downloads

I will check the txt but send me the the papyrus log too because is the one I am used...

By the way you can try disabling the Papyrus log for the update and let me know if works.

[Suke23]

15 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

I will check the txt but send me the the papyrus log too because is the one I am used...

By the way you can try disabling the Papyrus log for the update and let me know if works.

My bad here is the latest logPapyrus.1.log Also testing with log disabled will edit my comment with results shortly

Edit: With Log disabled I still get ctd

Edited June 22, 2021 by Suke23

[OsmelMC]

34 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

The recent talks about the LipSync option got me confused. Can/Should it be enabled while the expressions are enabled too? I am asking because on the one hand, in unmodded sexlab it says not to enable both, but on the other hand (and I got too confused trying to follow the last conversation about all these stuff) it seems the same people who use the expressions use the LipSync as well here XD

 

Bottom line, do I enable only one or both? If only one, which? XD

 

 

On an unrelated note, would you guys recommend starting a new game now (a new version of utility is usually a great enough reason for me to do so), or is it likely a core mod like DD or sexlab itself are getting updated soon enough to be worth waiting a little more?

About the Expressions and LipSync. Yes any of both can be Enabled or disabled without the other. But I prefer keep both enabled for the full experience.

 

The LipSync is just to move the lips on the moaning, because if is disabled will be the moaning sound only without mouth movement.

 

The Expressions is the actor mood showed on the face. For example if is a Victim on the Aggressive scene the face Expression will be of Sadness or Scared. For the rest is usual Joy or Pleasure.

 

 

You don't have to start a new game at lease you expect some CTD on the update, but if you want to reset the Actors skills to see how start again, I think the MCM have some option for that.

[Nymra]

more things I noticed:

 

1. Missalignement
it is happening all the time, be it cell loaded or not.
very often in animations, even when changing from 1 stage to the other, the PC is like 5 units too high to align.
Only way to fix this is to "reset animation customization" with the hotkey, in the process ofc also ruining any premade manual adjustments.

This happens in the playthrough all the time, no matter if I jsut loaded the game or if I changed location 100 times since last game load.

This is really concerning, since it ruings the immersion quite much. It is still the same issue since you first introduced this as a possible bug some versions ago.

The fix u described is not working and the issue remains and appears more often. 

 

2. Sometimes on last stage no expression applied

This happened twice now in my game, hence why I report it. It had alot of scenes and most of them worked, so its a very low chance of happening.

I get the feeling that some actors tend to leave sex scenes early and redressing too soon, maybe this is now a similar problem just for the PC and the expression, dunno.,

Could not reproduce this, too.

 

3. SLU orgasm messages

can I disable them somehow? it dont like messages in the upper left that are only debug
also I want debug for sexlab to be activated. can we not just have them as console and log trace?

 

Also: I had the message SLU: orgasm: Bandit, but the bandit did NOT orgasm, at least no cumshot was applied from SL cumshot mod. I have cumshot play ALWAYS set, so the scenes all end with cumshots. But it was not applied somehow. With the earlier SLU versions at least.

So now I just wonder if the Orgasm message is wrong or if the SLU+ > Cumshot mod communication is not working correctly.