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1 hour ago, anghelos92 said:

Masturbation is setted as submissive, that for balance reasons and should not give you any diseases mmm

If so there may be 2 bugs you found and that i must check:

- diseases: they should be disabled with masturbation

- sex type different from submissive, they should be recognized only as submissive.

Are you extra sure you started masturbation only from mcg hotkey?

 

Abot the category times masturbated, they have it...in the sexual experience stats in the control page, but sexual experience is different from sex type, they are 2 different systems, thanks for reporting by the way ?

 

Apparently, masturbation is causing wear and tear which causes the diseases, and yes I'm 100% it was M.C.G masturbation since I didn't have any other mod with masturbation at the time, now I reinstalled SLEN for the masturbation power and voila! 2 consensual/normal sex acts, on the mcg menu.

 

Masturbation shouldn't be in submissive category I'm pretty damn sure Dominatrixes masturbate too...

 

By the way, loved the prompts for the rape feature, but isn't there a way to pick which animation to play? I went to rape a guy with my female PC and wanted Aggressive Cowgirl animations since non Aggressive Cowgirl / FemDom ends up with the NPC I'm trying to rape, raping me instead. yeah I know I do have sexlab tools but it would be better and more sensible that you chose what sex position you want from the start, you know, like real life? xD

Posted
10 minutes ago, yagonew said:

Apparently, masturbation is causing wear and tear which causes the diseases, and yes I'm 100% it was M.C.G masturbation since I didn't have any other mod with masturbation at the time, now I reinstalled SLEN for the masturbation power and voila! 2 consensual/normal sex acts, on the mcg menu.

 

Masturbation shouldn't be in submissive category I'm pretty damn sure Dominatrixes masturbate too...

 

By the way, loved the prompts for the rape feature, but isn't there a way to pick which animation to play? I went to rape a guy with my female PC and wanted Aggressive Cowgirl animations since non Aggressive Cowgirl / FemDom ends up with the NPC I'm trying to rape, raping me instead. yeah I know I do have sexlab tools but it would be better and more sensible that you chose what sex position you want from the start, you know, like real life? xD

Oh yeah so now i understand, yes those diseases were not directly from masturbations (because this is not intended in the mod) but they came indirectly from your high wear level ( higher than 50) if you feel that masturbations should not give you wear you can set the base wear from masturbations to 0). About masturbation a form of submissive sex i think i will not change this because of balance reasons, because since sub and aggressive type of sex will make your lust grow faster (if mood system is enabled) i wanted a way to "punish the player" if he\she masturbate instead of finding a sexual partner to satysfy his\her lust

 

About choosing the position before sex, you can already choose if you want a giver or receiver role making the player choose also the exact animation before sex would have add too much in the script unfortunately, so for the time being you must rely on sex tools...but since you can choose the role before animation start, i am pretty sure that the role is saved when you change anination in sex tools

Posted
13 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

Oh yeah so now i understand, yes those diseases were not directly from masturbations (because this is not intended in the mod) but they came indirectly from your high wear level ( higher than 50) if you feel that masturbations should not give you wear you can set the base wear from masturbations to 0). About masturbation a form of submissive sex i think i will not change this because of balance reasons, because since sub and aggressive type of sex will make your lust grow faster (if mood system is enabled) i wanted a way to "punish the player" if he\she masturbate instead of finding a sexual partner to satysfy his\her lust

 

About choosing the position before sex, you can already choose if you want a giver or receiver role making the player choose also the exact animation before sex would have add too much in the script unfortunately, so for the time being you must rely on sex tools...but since you can choose the role before animation start, i am pretty sure that the role is saved when you change anination in sex tools

Cool, didn't see the masturbation to 0 thing, unless you are masturbating with a chainsaw I don't see how you could do enough dmg to contract a disease from it even masturbating 20 times in a row (girlfriend, me and a vibrating massage tool experience talking) sore yeah but diseased? nop no way.

 

Bummer about the rape option thing, you sure it can't be done without script overload? even creating a link to Sexlab Tools? I know ppl suck when you add requirements but SL Tools is great I'm sure they would understand (yeah...right.).

 

Posted
17 minutes ago, yagonew said:

Cool, didn't see the masturbation to 0 thing, unless you are masturbating with a chainsaw I don't see how you could do enough dmg to contract a disease from it even masturbating 20 times in a row (girlfriend, me and a vibrating massage tool experience talking) sore yeah but diseased? nop no way.

 

Bummer about the rape option thing, you sure it can't be done without script overload? even creating a link to Sexlab Tools? I know ppl suck when you add requirements but SL Tools is great I'm sure they would understand (yeah...right.).

 

You are totally right about masturbations realism, but this mod put gameplay and difficulty balance at first place, in the "great picture" i made those choices even if not always realistic because of gameplay and balance reasons, i know that this will not satisfy everyone taste but as you have found others mod masturbations are compatible and they are correctly seen as normal :) so you can use the other mods masturbations if you feel them to be better, to each, his taste :)

 

about the script overload about choosing the exact position of sex before doing it, it's not properly something about script heaviness on resources because it's a very light script from that point of view (execution), it's just that i cant edit it more!!! I know this seems absurd but you can verify for yourself if you open the mod in CK and edit the ”anghelosrelationscontrollerscript" you will find that you can't add more than other 2 lines of code since it reached the maximum lenght ? and i don't feel to reorganize the sex controller functions from the ground up in a new script anytime soon, but i may consider it in the future

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

You are totally right about masturbations realism, but this mod put gameplay and difficulty balance at first place, in the "great picture" i made those choices even if not always realistic because of gameplay and balance reasons, i know that this will not satisfy everyone taste but as you have found others mod masturbations are compatible and they are correctly seen as normal :) so you can use the other mods masturbations if you feel them to be better, to each, his taste :)

 

about the script overload about choosing the exact position of sex before doing it, it's not properly something about script heaviness on resources because it's a very light script from that point of view (execution), it's just that i cant edit it more!!! I know this seems absurd but you can verify for yourself if you open the mod in CK and edit the ”anghelosrelationscontrollerscript" you will find that you can't add more than other 2 lines if code since it reached the maximum lenght ? and i don't feel to reorganize the sex controller functions from the ground up in a new script anytime soon, but i may consider it in the future

 

Got it, to me as long as there is a reason anything can be roleplayed, sucks about the CK, I'm guessing splitting the mod is easier said than done? (not a modder so I wouldn't know).

 

Posted

THE FOLLOWING PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS MOD. IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE BEFORE I FOUND M.C.G.

 

Do you know why every time I open my Skyrim and create a new game I'm unable to save in ANY way including by using the Fast Save MOD ? It only happens on new games, and if I first load a saved game and then go back to the MAIN MENU and start a new game the saves are unlocked.

 

In the cases where the saves are locked as soon as I leave the LAL cell, they unlock and I'm able to save. Before leaving the cell the save button is GREYED OUT and not even the console command  "save (save-name)" works. 

 

Any ideas why or how I fix this shit?

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, yagonew said:

Got it, to me as long as there is a reason anything can be roleplayed, sucks about the CK, I'm guessing splitting the mod is easier said than done? (not a modder so I wouldn't know).

 

Yes my friend everithing in this mod has a reason, I don't like features putted there only for display, only feature in the entire mod that has no gameplay effect is the dialogues for human slaves in which you can tell them to dance for you etc...all the rest of the features in this mod has a purpose and a reason for being what they are :) (of course i am still a human being and I may have done errors so i am open to suggestions when you find something you don't like we can always discuss about it :) ).

 

About the splitting of the mod for the feature you suggested it's not necessary to make a new mod, just a new script but this would mean transferring and reorganizing the code in a new script (which is like a text file in which there are functions, functions are like actions that the mod can do, i.e. i can make a function about raping like 

Function doRape(actor aggressor, actor victim) and i instruct the game on what it should happen but then every dialog or action that use this function point on this function and by pointing on this function i mean that when you click on the Rape button of the slave popup, the button know that the function is in that specific script and it is able to call and use it to give to that button that specific function but when i transfer the function to another script i need to edit ALL the buttons, dialogues etc that were using that function to tell them where the new function is being transferred! And that would mean pratically recompile almost the whole mod :P

Posted
14 minutes ago, yagonew said:

THE FOLLOWING PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS MOD. IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE BEFORE I FOUND M.C.G.

 

Do you know why every time I open my Skyrim and create a new game I'm unable to save in ANY way including by using the Fast Save MOD ? It only happens on new games, and if I first load a saved game and then go back to the MAIN MENU and start a new game the saves are unlocked.

 

In the cases where the saves are locked as soon as I leave the LAL cell, they unlock and I'm able to save. Before leaving the cell the save button is GREYED OUT and not even the console command  "save (save-name)" works. 

 

Any ideas why or how I fix this shit?

 

That's totally normal and a vanilla game feauture, you can't save when you are in a scripted scene that directly involve the player, i think for new game you are talking about when you are in the prisoner cart...well my friend you can't save while you are on the cart, the miment you exit it you can save again (by the way yiu can't save in a lot of scripted events involving directly the player, modded or not, i.e. you can't save while you are doing sex or i think while you are crafting)

 

Edit: sorry i didnt read you used LAL, when i used it i was always able to save even in the LAL cell, maybe you need to wait just for the scripts of all your mods to complete the installation?

Posted
17 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

That's totally normal and a vanilla game feauture, you can't save when you are in a scripted scene that directly involve the player, i think for new game you are talking about when you are in the prisoner cart...well my friend you can't save while you are on the cart, the miment you exit it you can save again (by the way yiu can't save in a lot of scripted events involving directly the player, modded or not, i.e. you can't save while you are doing sex or i think while you are crafting)

 

Edit: sorry i didnt read you used LAL

xD, I know about the (buggy as all hell and then some) vanilla start, I've got way too many mods to safely pass through that without LAL the problem is that there are some MCM menus that only popup when you save and reload after creating a new game and I've been told it's best to configure all your mods before leaving the LAL cell, I know it's not game breaking if I dont and that there are ppl who install mods in the middle of a playthrough but by installing and configuring all my mods before I start a game I've always been able to pay 120hrs+ games with a shitload of mods whitout problems. I don't even remember the last time I had a corrupted save issue. and this damn bug is forcing me to leave the cell without configuring them all (fucking OCD bastard that I am, this shit REALLY bugs me...).

Posted

By the way @Roachboy i thought about the bug of following slaves animals not following you in interiors, in the time being you may use this solution: 

If you hold and release your mcg key WHILE YOUR WEAPONS ARE SHEATHED there should appear a popup with more MCG options, among them i think i added a button to teleport your following slaves to you if they remain behind

Posted
1 minute ago, yagonew said:

xD, I know about the (buggy as all hell and then some vanilla start) I've got way too many mods to safely pass through that without LAL the problem is that there are some MCM menus that only popup when you save and reload after creating a new game and I've been told it's best to configure all your mods before leaving the LAL cell, I know it's not game breaking if I dont and that there are ppl who install mods in the middle of a playthrough but by installing and configuring all my mods before I start a game I've always been able to pay 120hrs+ games with a shitload of mods whitout problems. I don't even remember the last time I had a corrupted save issue. and this damn bug is forcing me to leave the cell without configuring them all (fucking OCD bastard that I am, this shit REALLY bugs me...).

It's a nasty bug indeed, i myself do always as you described, configuring all the mods before leaving lal cell, or anyways right at the start, unfortunately i cant help in this case, hope you find a solution

Posted
8 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

By the way @Roachboy i thought about the bug of following slaves animals not following you in interiors, in the time being you may use this solution: 

If you hold and release your mcg key WHILE YOUR WEAPONS ARE SHEATHED there should appear a popup with more MCG options, among them i think i added a button to teleport your following slaves to you if they remain behind

Yes, I found the teleport button - haven*'t tried it yet, though. Thanks for the pointer.

Posted
8 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

It's a nasty bug indeed, i myself do always as you described, configuring all the mods before leaving lal cell, or anyways right at the start, unfortunately i cant help in this case, hope you find a solution

Oh I will find it, haven't played through Fo3, FNV and Oblivion just to let one stupid bug stop me now, muaha...muahahahahaha \z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P526n6wfP4

Posted

Can the next version have a masturbation key or power? Also just as an experiment I tried dating an NPC, but all of the dialog options that came up triggered positive verbal responses, but then I would see some text at the upper left of the screen that said something like "this is not the right approach for the character", the issue I have is I saved and reloaded the game in order to try ALL of the possible dialog options, but they all came back as the wrong approach. I don't know if that's supposed to happen or if that could be a bug of some kind, because if every option on the list is the wrong approach, them what is the point of the dating option? I was also curious if there is a "casual sex" option, or in other words the ability to get sex without dating (maybe by flirting a little bit) and without the prostitution aspect.

Posted
4 hours ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

Can the next version have a masturbation key or power? Also just as an experiment I tried dating an NPC, but all of the dialog options that came up triggered positive verbal responses, but then I would see some text at the upper left of the screen that said something like "this is not the right approach for the character", the issue I have is I saved and reloaded the game in order to try ALL of the possible dialog options, but they all came back as the wrong approach. I don't know if that's supposed to happen or if that could be a bug of some kind, because if every option on the list is the wrong approach, them what is the point of the dating option? I was also curious if there is a "casual sex" option, or in other words the ability to get sex without dating (maybe by flirting a little bit) and without the prostitution aspect.

No there is already a key to masturbate: hold and release the mcg key WHILE YOUR WEAPONS ARE DRAWN to equip bare hands, then with those equipped and drawn hold and release again.

 

It seems you reloaded the game every time before talking with that npc the first time, i mean the personality is applied to the npc the first time you use the dialog ehi you have a moment?  and then that personality remain for the rest of the game but if you reload the save before having used that dialog with that npc fir the first time the system will still assign a random personality... 

Before dating someone you can use the info dialog in the tool dialogs to have some hints in that personality, be aware that doing this make the actor enter cooldown, you find more on this in the guide. When you are in a date you can go to innkeepers to drink or eat with your date actor, or to bards for dancing...other than a lot more actions possible that i will explain in the guide when ill have time, currently i am travelling to Rome for work, so i am busy atm.

 

The quick sex option you want is the flirt dialog in the quick sex options. To see your chance in that you must read the guide.

Posted
7 hours ago, anghelos92 said:

No there is already a key to masturbate: hold and release the mcg key WHILE YOUR WEAPONS ARE DRAWN to equip bare hands, then with those equipped and drawn hold and release again.

 

It seems you reloaded the game every time before talking with that npc the first time, i mean the personality is applied to the npc the first time you use the dialog ehi you have a moment?  and then that personality remain for the rest of the game but if you reload the save before having used that dialog with that npc fir the first time the system will still assign a random personality... 

Before dating someone you can use the info dialog in the tool dialogs to have some hints in that personality, be aware that doing this make the actor enter cooldown, you find more on this in the guide. When you are in a date you can go to innkeepers to drink or eat with your date actor, or to bards for dancing...other than a lot more actions possible that i will explain in the guide when ill have time, currently i am travelling to Rome for work, so i am busy atm.

 

The quick sex option you want is the flirt dialog in the quick sex options. To see your chance in that you must read the guide.

Got it.

Posted

hi anghelos, only wanna mention that this weird stuck bug after you get defeate and the rape actor is died cant be fixed with the DA reset player feature...

BTW do you use Ordinator with EFF? cos if i use EFF and ordinator together i got a weird wirdget on my bottom display (looks like defeate) have tried a new save and reorder the plugins in the loadorder...no sucsess

for what was EFF good again? i have the version without the dependecie

 

EDIT: i have found the problem for this widget... its your mod... hm dunno why or wich mod cause this with your mod i try to disable all other mods and look if its still ther

 

EDIT EDIT: its not your mod... dunno what mod is the problem... i going crazy

Posted
4 hours ago, C0R3G4M3R said:

hi anghelos, only wanna mention that this weird stuck bug after you get defeate and the rape actor is died cant be fixed with the DA reset player feature...

BTW do you use Ordinator with EFF? cos if i use EFF and ordinator together i got a weird wirdget on my bottom display (looks like defeate) have tried a new save and reorder the plugins in the loadorder...no sucsess

for what was EFF good again? i have the version without the dependecie

 

EDIT: i have found the problem for this widget... its your mod... hm dunno why or wich mod cause this with your mod i try to disable all other mods and look if its still ther

 

EDIT EDIT: its not your mod... dunno what mod is the problem... i going crazy

About your actor remaining stuck can't say but if even with DA reset player status or consolle enableplayercontrols work it seems you have another mod controlling those outcomes, something like a devious devices

Posted

I for one have no interest in seeing you integrate this mod with PAHE like you've talked about, or at least I would not want you to make it a hard dependency.  (As far as dependencies go, I use EFF anyway, and have been thinking about trying HP, but I am very glad you removed DAYMOYL as a requirement.  Thank you for that)

 

What I've been looking for is a single mod that will give me all or most of the features I like from SL Aroused Redux, SL Eager NPCS, PAHE, PAHE HSH and PAHE AYGAS and combine them into a single mod, without giving me a lot of the features of those mods that I don't like.  Your mod really interests me, because it is so configurable and lets you adjust settings on or off, or the chances of things happening, any maybe your mod is exactly what I'm looking for.  I already have a big load order, so replacing 5 or more esp slots with one would be wonderful, plus those mods are rumored (I'm not qualified to judge) to be script heavy, and my current game is really starting to strain with the number of script heavy mods I'm running.

 

I have a list of questions I'd love to ask you, but am trying to be patient and wait for you to have an opportunity to finish your Guide and FAQ sections instead.  Hopefully you can do that soon, but I understand real life comes first.

Posted
1 hour ago, travelmedic said:

I for one have no interest in seeing you integrate this mod with PAHE like you've talked about, or at least I would not want you to make it a hard dependency.  (As far as dependencies go, I use EFF anyway, and have been thinking about trying HP, but I am very glad you removed DAYMOYL as a requirement.  Thank you for that)

 

What I've been looking for is a single mod that will give me all or most of the features I like from SL Aroused Redux, SL Eager NPCS, PAHE, PAHE HSH and PAHE AYGAS and combine them into a single mod, without giving me a lot of the features of those mods that I don't like.  Your mod really interests me, because it is so configurable and lets you adjust settings on or off, or the chances of things happening, any maybe your mod is exactly what I'm looking for.  I already have a big load order, so replacing 5 or more esp slots with one would be wonderful, plus those mods are rumored (I'm not qualified to judge) to be script heavy, and my current game is really starting to strain with the number of script heavy mods I'm running.

 

I have a list of questions I'd love to ask you, but am trying to be patient and wait for you to have an opportunity to finish your Guide and FAQ sections instead.  Hopefully you can do that soon, but I understand real life comes first.

Thank you sir, your encouragement is very much appreciated ? hope to provide the guide within this evening CEST

Posted

Hi, i'm not sure if that's in the scope of this mod but i have to ask since this seems the only mod activly developed with a player-defeat feature (and i wasn't denied already)^^: any plans to add something like the submit & DD progression feature had, i.e. be enslaved and a small minigame feature to escape?

In case you don't know what i'm talking about:

- after beeing beaten and raped player is tied to some post or any ZAP furniture, you can wiggle out of it but (at least that was supposed to work, never did really though) that will increase attention, if "detected" you'll be raped again. Might even happen without trying to escape, but less often/likely. If you're detected you have to start from scratch.

 

I wouldn't mind if it does a bit more either, something like becoming one of 

as the player with a little story about how to escape. Maybe even some random chances that trigger after a while, something like

- one of your capturers might be seduced or pity you and give your freedom back

- lawful guys (mage guild, guards, compagnions,...) raid the place and set you free 

- unlawful guys (vampires, bandits,...) raid the place and abuse you, take anything that's left, feed on you and leave you there to die.

- they might sell you via simple slavery

- fullfill your purpose. Some factions like necromancers might do some experiments like impregnate you & cast spells to enhance pregnancy (Soul gem oven prefered, but if you don't want to support it i'll be fine with everything :) ) Forsworn shamanes might experiment if they can impregnate you with a creature.

- a courier might be sent to the local Jarl demanding ransom. Depending on your status (you have a bounty, neutral, did a quest towards becoming thane, are thane) the answer would be accordingly. And the reaction of your capturers. I.e. raped and left for dead, sold, given to trolls/giants,...

Posted

No problem. You are providing a great mod for us (for free) ... you decide how to spend your time and do not need to apologize (especially if the reason is "work").

Posted

I added your mod to an existing game just to have a look, and made a few notes that I wanted to pass on to you.  For background, my existing game is straining with a lot of scripted mods and I'm going to start over soon, so I'll put that out for consideration if something isn't working the way it's intended.  I also have SL Aroused Redux, SL Eager NPCs, PAHE, PAHE HSH and PAHE AYGAS already installed.

 

First off, when loading the game, I got a confirmation message in the upper left that MCG recognized EFF, so that was good.  No message for Hentai Pregnancy, I don't know if there is supposed to be one or not, it's not a big deal.  (I don't have DAYMOYL installed, and have no interest in it)

 

Second, as a quick note, your FAQ says to craft slave chains at the tanning rack, they were in my forge menu.

 

Third, the first girl I did the quick route with gave me the Rattles.  I'm a vampire, so should have 100% disease resistance and shouldn't catch anything.  Same would apply to werewolves (I think), also argonians have some disease resistance, and there are magic items that give disease resistance.  I don't know if that part isn't working, or if you haven't added that in yet, or decided to leave it as is.  EDIT TO ADD:  YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE VARIABLE CHECK AGAINST BEING A VAMPIRE OR WEREWOLF.  I LOOKED AROUND AND FOUND THAT DISEASE RESISTANCE IS AN ACTOR VARIABLE (#45 AT THIS LINK:  https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tes5Mod:Actor_Value_Indices ) SO MAYBE SOMEHOW MODIFY THE EQUATION BY MULTIPLYING OR DIVIDING THE DISEASE CHANCE IN YOUR MOD BY THE ACTOR VALUE.

 

Fourth, when crafting the drugged wrap, there are two Alto Wines in the vanilla game (ID 0003133B and 000C5349).  Only one of them worked to make the wrap.  Not a big deal since alto wine is readily available, just thought I'd point it out if it's an oversight.  EDIT TO ADD:  MAYBE THE LIMITATIONS OF THE CK WILL ONLY LET YOU USE ONE ALTO WINE, AND NOT EITHER/OR.  THOUGHT ABOUT THAT SOME MORE.

 

Fifth, the lust meter or widget recognized and reset to 0 even if I used Eager NPCs to start a scene, also raised the wear, so that was good.  I assume your mod looks for the act itself instead of how it was initiated, so it works well.

 

Sixth, had a public sex scene at the entrance to Solitude that multiple people saw.  I ended up getting three bounties for the one session.

 

The issues I have to play with more are the enslavement and using the drugged wrap.  If I snuck up on someone sleeping with a drugged wrap in my inventory, I couldn't figure out how to use it to subdue the person.  I would try to activate them and get a menu for feed (I'm a vampire) or pickpocket but not subdue.  I also tried to reverse pickpocket the drugged wrap but I don't think that did anything.  I need to experiment with this some more.

 

Also, I'm not sure if I was doing the enslavement right or it's not working.  I had two slave chains in my inventory (one I crafted and one I got via Add Item Menu) and set the health threshold up high to make it easier.  I would beat somebody down to about 50% health and try to activate them, I would get a popup box with the options to "cancel enslavement" or "talk."  Looking back maybe I should have tried to exit that box without choosing either option but I couldn't capture any slaves yet with your mod.  That was after I got out of game, disabled my PAHE stuff, and went back in game to try again.  PS I had also tried to reverse pickpocket the chains onto sleeping people but didn't seem to make a difference.

 

So I'm going to try some more with the knocking out and enslaving.  I tried to have a look in TES5Edit and there was no red highlighted conflict between your mod and the PAHE stuff, so maybe it's just me.  Hopefully you find the feedback for items 1-6 helpful, I have to experiment some more with the last two to see if it's a conflict or I'm doing something wrong, or maybe it's script lag in my game.

Posted

I just tested MCG too see if it can replace Defeat/Submit or other similar mods. Sadly, to this point, it cannot. 

The Defeat feature is just too slim, offering no real customization at all (defeat has a lot I know, but many of them are really nice to have). 

It is light weight, yeah, but too light weight for my taste. Naked Dungeons mod also has a light weight defeat feature (which is superior to this one, IMO). 

 

All the other MCM stuff seems irrevelant (lust etc.). There are so many mods that integrate relationship/desire/arousal systems of one kind or another, but at least for me, those add little to nothing to the overall experience without a certain quest or sandboxing component attached (Sex Lab Aroused serves for me only as support for visual mods like "Dripping when aroused" "Blush when aroused" etc. which give slave tat and audio functions to spice up the game.

This point is a minor one, since it is just my own needs for skyrim. other people might like this feature a lot.

 

As for Sex abuse and wear&tear: there is apropos and I use that mod for I think a year now in every load order to great success. it offers alot of customization and also has slave tat support for visible after effects. 

 

Just my personal oppinion, but I would prefer to see a Defeat clone that is updated and expanded instead of so many mods who try to implement so many things at once without doing one of it right. In other words: functions of this mod are already there due to specialist mods that offer a combined experience far superior to this one. But maybe that is just me failing to see the unique point of MCG? 
 

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