Banned from Nexus

[ratrace]

 

Even trolls and village idiots have their place in a healthy community.

There is a critical mass that marks a forums demise. Over here there is a widely known IT tech forum that was at some time literally flooded by trolls - and is now more or less known as "the troll forum". It once was a forum where you could get valuable tech infos and chat about that kind of stuff.

 

Which proves what you said:

 

Of course everything has it's limits.

 

[Sheojendphine]

If you're not Arthmoor, then you don't know the actual context. His criticisms are based on skepticism, in which is fine, don't get me wrong, but he didn't test it immediately to confirm his skepticism. So all of his 'points' that he ascertains are unfounded, downright insulting because he claims to know everything without testing. I will give him the fact that he wanted to test it in the thread, however he himself said that he was lazy, didn't want to run Visual Studio because he's a "lazy lizard". I'm sorry, but that's a bitchslap. "I didn't test it, but it corrupts saves anyway, hurr hurr hurr." That's how he came off as. Quite frankly, he can crawl back under his rock. And you're going to insult people for having their games working with a different uGridsToLoad? That they're not sensible? If it works for them, who are you to judge? For those having problems right after downloading his mods, there could be something else there and he's refusing to acknowledge it, because according to him he does no wrong. Remember, it's the downloader's problem. Not his.

This picture you keep attempting to paint of him, I'm not buying it, so you can stop trying to sell it. Where you see a bitchslap, I see someone who is simply making a flippant comment about the need to install sophisticated compilers to test something that was totally unproven back in January. Past experience with similar things is absolutely a valid thing to be cautious about.

 

Insult? No. It is proven though that setting ugrids too high causes problems with quests and scripts and other things so that doesn't strike me as a sensible trade off. MOAR MEMORY! That's basically all people see, and then they assume that means MOAR GRIDS! Skyrim's engine doesn't work that way and the crash threads continue to mount regardless of the patch.

 

I didn't invoke an appeal to authority, I simply stated I've been around long enough to know how to install a simple mod, and in this case a small series of patches as well as the instructions to in the description. That's hardly argumentum ad verecundium. That's stating that I know standard procedures in installing a mod to the correct directory. So no, that's not invoking, that's simply stated that this isn't my first rodeo and I read the instructions.

Ok, but I think we can all assume we know what we're doing so it comes off as arrogance to go out of your way to put it the way you did.

 

As for this part, what exactly are you referring to? When I mentioned I could install a few little patches in my directory, I was talking about the bug I was experiencing. Not about Safety Load or anything that he was talking about in that thread. I mentioned it in another POINT in the same post. If you got confused, my apologies, but they are indeed separate. Also this is addressed further down. I haven't forgotten it.

Yes, I thought we were still talking about that one set of posts. It was all about Safety Load and Sheson's later patch so what your bug had to do with that I don't know.

 

Here's a shocker for you. I've expressed my distaste for the guy several times to him directly. As far as this being the only thing, again, no. That's not the only thing I don't like him for. His behavior is absolutely repugnant. It was to me, it was to others who have voiced it up in here, others online have voiced their opinions. I don't antagonize him or even speak with him anymore. Why? Because he's toxic. However I have the right to voice my experiences with him. If someone were to ask me my opinion of Arthmoor, I wouldn't be modest. And again, you're calling the kettle black here, Pot. Only thing about it, is that I've said it to him, where with you, we don't know. I could assume, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you have, despite the fact that it's unwarranted because someone using ugrids outside your idea of a normal bounds is none of your business. Sorry to sound confrontational, but it's not any of your business or his little piranhas when they're not saying anything about crashes or using his mod. Okay? There's just no excuse for that.

So you appear to have had one bad experience, about something you appear unwilling to call out directly for some reason. This exchange took place in public somewhere?

 

Your continued insistence on insulting his "fans" for lack of a better term is more telling than I think you realize. I doubt very much whatever happened could be as bad as you say, because this thread is full of supposed proof that he'd have been banned from Nexus for it a long time ago. That hasn't happened, so unless he's paying Robin off somehow, you've so far got nothing convincing to show for your case. Just a lot of hate that's been building up.

 

Nobody is saying you don't have a right to have a negative opinion about the guy, especially if you think he deserves it, but you're taking that to a whole other level by spreading your distaste for him needlessly in a public forum. Nobody else has any sort of reference point to judge your opinion against.

 

We're all equal. Until he cuts the crap and acts like an adult, he cannot dew da dew.

I could say the same about you. It doesn't show much maturity to whine and cry about something that happened months or years in the past. Holding grudges is the sign of a weak character.

 

Really? From that whole part that I was confused of and said I was going to bring up later, here it is. Let me ask you this; It's been well over a year.

Well over a year? You may need to check your facts again before throwing that one around. Sheson's patch and the SKSE alpha are both products of January-February of 2014. That's around 3 months, not well over a year. As good as the patch is, I don't honestly see that as enough time to have given it a proper review.

 

I still see plenty of CTD and ILS threads pop up on a daily basis, regardless of whether someone is using the patch or not. So either it helps and those people just aren't speaking up, or it makes no difference and is just another cool thing we have at our disposal.

 

Again, read what he posted in January. Skepticism. He wasn't assuming anything, just relating past experience as a warning to others. I got that. You're letting your hatred for him blind your objectivtity. Bethesda's forums are not Nexus, if he was spouting bullshit someone would have called him on it. Nobody there is shy about calling people out in a respectful manner when they're wrong about something. I've seen them do it with him too, and you know what? He doesn't go full apeshit on them when it happens. Civil discussion does exist and he's perfectly capable of it with someone willing to hold a civil discussion with him. I'm sorry, but him saying he's not going to install a full blown development suite to test an iffy patch that requires specialized knowledge to compile isn't something any rational person should hold against him.

 

As for him being toxic, I'm sorry, I don't see it. Toxic people in the modding community get driven out. I've seen it happen plenty of times with actual assholes who do nothing but berate people. They don't last. If this was true of him, he'd have been marginalized a long time ago no matter how good his mods are. I could probably spend a few days looking at any particular modder on Nexus, here, Steam, or anywhere else and make a case that they're ALL assholes by being selective about it. The claim rings hollow.

 

Truthfully I REALLY want to know your so-called, "research."  If you can prove it fine; I'll shut up and say hats off to you for doing good homework.  If not please do humanity a favor and SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE.

Google up "kendo banned Nexus" and pick anything on the first 5 pages. Read up. Then tell me there's nothing to any of it. You'll find that Nexus-sourced material makes up very little of it.

 

Here's your link about Wrye Bash, if you don't believe me.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/7836-wrye-bash-pictorial-guide-deleted/

 

I am done discussing this, I don't like the guy and all, but I will not waste my time arguing about it.

Wow. Talk about totally blowing it. You guys heaped all that hate against THE WRONG PERSON. Arthmoor did not write that guide. Alternity (or however he leatspeak spells the stupid name) wrote it.

 

All that shit about the oblivion gates and open cities is a perfect example of why you don't antagonize mod authors. If you don't like what they're doing, don't use it. Seems simple enough. So fucking what if he wanted to put silly oblivion gates into the mod. It's his mod. Those people who stole his mod and uploaded it to Steam? They deserved every bit of rage he directed at them for it. You know what? Bethesda supported him in it too because they hold all the power on Skyrim's workshop area. THEY had to ban those people in the end for being thieves, liars, and generally toxic people. The community is better off without them infecting it with their hatred. They have their own little shithole on the net to spend all day swapping I Hate Arthmoor stories. Let them stay there.

 

There was a whole thing with rampant mod theft going on 2 years ago. A whole lot of people on a whole lot of sites were up in arms about it. Nasty shit. Nexus weighed in as usual, as did a few other places. I know Arthmoor spoke up about it since he's pretty big on advocating for modders' rights to control their work. The toxic assholes who think they should be able to steal what they want and use it as their own obviously didn't like that a prominent figure in the community was, in their words, "trying to destroy modding". One of those people even posted in the thread you linked and flat out admitted what they did and then spun a wonderfully false version of the events for everyone's benefit. Thankfully the community as a whole is smart enough to realize it's an entirely fictional account of what really happened.

 

Perhaps Arthmoor's bluntness and sometimes abrasive response to people stems from having been treated like shit in the earlier days of Skyrim modding? It might not be a healthy thing if he's still nursing a grudge over it, but it would explain quite a bit.

[Kendo 2]

Google up "kendo banned Nexus" and pick anything on the first 5 pages. Read up. Then tell me there's nothing to any of it. You'll find that Nexus-sourced material makes up very little of it.

I did just that.  Google and Yahoo too.  There is one link from Nexus and maybe three or four of me dealing with that douche 'dezdimona' after he made up some shit about me being banned at Nexus for being a homo-phobe.  Conspicuously missing are the  'five pages' you're talking about.  So much for you and your 'research'.  Like I said before, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  You're nothing but a liar at this point and a stupid one at that.  What the fuck are you thinking, directing people to 'info' that doesn't exist?

 

And rather odd that you pulled my name out of hat when you were involved in an exchange I had no part of or interest in.  No matter.  Everyone here is used to Nexus worms squirming their way in here to pontificate.  You're just another worm; a worm full of SHIT.

[ElectricSheep]

 

Truthfully I REALLY want to know your so-called, "research."  If you can prove it fine; I'll shut up and say hats off to you for doing good homework.  If not please do humanity a favor and SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE.

Google up "kendo banned Nexus" and pick anything on the first 5 pages. Read up. Then tell me there's nothing to any of it. You'll find that Nexus-sourced material makes up very little of it.

 

The quote is not from me.

[ElectricSheep]

The quote is from aeonthraen:

 

Truthfully I REALLY want to know your so-called, "research."  If you can prove it fine; I'll shut up and say hats off to you for doing good homework.  If not please do humanity a favor and SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE.

 

 

But as instructed I googled "Kendo 2 banned" and this is the only result from Nexus:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1043021-kendo-2-banned/

[Sheojendphine]

Wrong, in the end the two people whom were banned from steam were reinstated without fault because the person who had done the original ban had taken the time to review the ban and saw that this Arthmoor chap was in the wrong. Neither of the people had stolen the mod, one gave full credits for the work they posted on steam to Arthmoor and the other was nothing more than a mod that removed the oblivion gates from one of his mods. The reports of mod theft were proven to be false, had you bothered to research it you would have known as much. 

And in the end it is all irrelevant, Arthmoor shut his mouth and went crawling back to nexus where he is to this day, like a good little pet. His attempt to force people to see thing from his perspective was pointless, the people he tried to get banned weren't in the end and he is back to being a nexus lap dog. Your doing nothing more than defending someone that threw a tantrum and got his ass handed to him in the end, stop beating this dead horse and move on. Like you said if you don't like the mod then go somewhere else, that door swings both ways, if you don't like our opinions then find somewhere else to troll.

LOL! Now I know you guys are all full of shit. The reports of mod theft were absolutely proven true.

 

Those people who got banned did not get reinstated. The stolen mod did not get put back up on Steam, and the people responsible did not send Arthmoor running back to Nexus with his tail between his legs. Got his ass handed to him? Hardly. A whole lot of mod thieves were banned from both Steam and Nexus 2 years ago and Steam is a far better place for it now. Can't really say it made much difference on Nexus one way or the other.

 

Revisionism. This is the kind of crap this thread tells me to expect from Nexus but the only revisionism I see going on is right here.

 

You're entitled to hold whatever opinion you like. You are not entitled to assert it as factual when everything in evidence proves otherwise.

 

But you know, if that's how you want to troll, go for it. All you're really doing is reinforcing public opinion about the membership on this site in doing so. I came here to find out if any of that was true, and you've all confirmed it quite nicely.

 

Then again, this is one thread, and it might not actually represent the majority of the community here. It's 94 pages though, and filled with what appear to be some of the most regular members here. It casts a pretty negative shadow on things if this really isn't how most folks conduct themselves here.

[legendarytoyou]

 

If you're not Arthmoor, then you don't know the actual context. His criticisms are based on skepticism, in which is fine, don't get me wrong, but he didn't test it immediately to confirm his skepticism. So all of his 'points' that he ascertains are unfounded, downright insulting because he claims to know everything without testing. I will give him the fact that he wanted to test it in the thread, however he himself said that he was lazy, didn't want to run Visual Studio because he's a "lazy lizard". I'm sorry, but that's a bitchslap. "I didn't test it, but it corrupts saves anyway, hurr hurr hurr." That's how he came off as. Quite frankly, he can crawl back under his rock. And you're going to insult people for having their games working with a different uGridsToLoad? That they're not sensible? If it works for them, who are you to judge? For those having problems right after downloading his mods, there could be something else there and he's refusing to acknowledge it, because according to him he does no wrong. Remember, it's the downloader's problem. Not his.

This picture you keep attempting to paint of him, I'm not buying it, so you can stop trying to sell it. Where you see a bitchslap, I see someone who is simply making a flippant comment about the need to install sophisticated compilers to test something that was totally unproven back in January. Past experience with similar things is absolutely a valid thing to be cautious about.

 

Insult? No. It is proven though that setting ugrids too high causes problems with quests and scripts and other things so that doesn't strike me as a sensible trade off. MOAR MEMORY! That's basically all people see, and then they assume that means MOAR GRIDS! Skyrim's engine doesn't work that way and the crash threads continue to mount regardless of the patch.

 

I didn't invoke an appeal to authority, I simply stated I've been around long enough to know how to install a simple mod, and in this case a small series of patches as well as the instructions to in the description. That's hardly argumentum ad verecundium. That's stating that I know standard procedures in installing a mod to the correct directory. So no, that's not invoking, that's simply stated that this isn't my first rodeo and I read the instructions.

Ok, but I think we can all assume we know what we're doing so it comes off as arrogance to go out of your way to put it the way you did.

 

As for this part, what exactly are you referring to? When I mentioned I could install a few little patches in my directory, I was talking about the bug I was experiencing. Not about Safety Load or anything that he was talking about in that thread. I mentioned it in another POINT in the same post. If you got confused, my apologies, but they are indeed separate. Also this is addressed further down. I haven't forgotten it.

Yes, I thought we were still talking about that one set of posts. It was all about Safety Load and Sheson's later patch so what your bug had to do with that I don't know.

 

Here's a shocker for you. I've expressed my distaste for the guy several times to him directly. As far as this being the only thing, again, no. That's not the only thing I don't like him for. His behavior is absolutely repugnant. It was to me, it was to others who have voiced it up in here, others online have voiced their opinions. I don't antagonize him or even speak with him anymore. Why? Because he's toxic. However I have the right to voice my experiences with him. If someone were to ask me my opinion of Arthmoor, I wouldn't be modest. And again, you're calling the kettle black here, Pot. Only thing about it, is that I've said it to him, where with you, we don't know. I could assume, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you have, despite the fact that it's unwarranted because someone using ugrids outside your idea of a normal bounds is none of your business. Sorry to sound confrontational, but it's not any of your business or his little piranhas when they're not saying anything about crashes or using his mod. Okay? There's just no excuse for that.

So you appear to have had one bad experience, about something you appear unwilling to call out directly for some reason. This exchange took place in public somewhere?

 

Your continued insistence on insulting his "fans" for lack of a better term is more telling than I think you realize. I doubt very much whatever happened could be as bad as you say, because this thread is full of supposed proof that he'd have been banned from Nexus for it a long time ago. That hasn't happened, so unless he's paying Robin off somehow, you've so far got nothing convincing to show for your case. Just a lot of hate that's been building up.

 

Nobody is saying you don't have a right to have a negative opinion about the guy, especially if you think he deserves it, but you're taking that to a whole other level by spreading your distaste for him needlessly in a public forum. Nobody else has any sort of reference point to judge your opinion against.

 

We're all equal. Until he cuts the crap and acts like an adult, he cannot dew da dew.

I could say the same about you. It doesn't show much maturity to whine and cry about something that happened months or years in the past. Holding grudges is the sign of a weak character.

 

Really? From that whole part that I was confused of and said I was going to bring up later, here it is. Let me ask you this; It's been well over a year.

Well over a year? You may need to check your facts again before throwing that one around. Sheson's patch and the SKSE alpha are both products of January-February of 2014. That's around 3 months, not well over a year. As good as the patch is, I don't honestly see that as enough time to have given it a proper review.

 

I still see plenty of CTD and ILS threads pop up on a daily basis, regardless of whether someone is using the patch or not. So either it helps and those people just aren't speaking up, or it makes no difference and is just another cool thing we have at our disposal.

 

Again, read what he posted in January. Skepticism. He wasn't assuming anything, just relating past experience as a warning to others. I got that. You're letting your hatred for him blind your objectivtity. Bethesda's forums are not Nexus, if he was spouting bullshit someone would have called him on it. Nobody there is shy about calling people out in a respectful manner when they're wrong about something. I've seen them do it with him too, and you know what? He doesn't go full apeshit on them when it happens. Civil discussion does exist and he's perfectly capable of it with someone willing to hold a civil discussion with him. I'm sorry, but him saying he's not going to install a full blown development suite to test an iffy patch that requires specialized knowledge to compile isn't something any rational person should hold against him.

 

As for him being toxic, I'm sorry, I don't see it. Toxic people in the modding community get driven out. I've seen it happen plenty of times with actual assholes who do nothing but berate people. They don't last. If this was true of him, he'd have been marginalized a long time ago no matter how good his mods are. I could probably spend a few days looking at any particular modder on Nexus, here, Steam, or anywhere else and make a case that they're ALL assholes by being selective about it. The claim rings hollow.

 

Truthfully I REALLY want to know your so-called, "research."  If you can prove it fine; I'll shut up and say hats off to you for doing good homework.  If not please do humanity a favor and SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE.

Google up "kendo banned Nexus" and pick anything on the first 5 pages. Read up. Then tell me there's nothing to any of it. You'll find that Nexus-sourced material makes up very little of it.

 

Here's your link about Wrye Bash, if you don't believe me.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/7836-wrye-bash-pictorial-guide-deleted/

 

I am done discussing this, I don't like the guy and all, but I will not waste my time arguing about it.

Wow. Talk about totally blowing it. You guys heaped all that hate against THE WRONG PERSON. Arthmoor did not write that guide. Alternity (or however he leatspeak spells the stupid name) wrote it.

 

All that shit about the oblivion gates and open cities is a perfect example of why you don't antagonize mod authors. If you don't like what they're doing, don't use it. Seems simple enough. So fucking what if he wanted to put silly oblivion gates into the mod. It's his mod. Those people who stole his mod and uploaded it to Steam? They deserved every bit of rage he directed at them for it. You know what? Bethesda supported him in it too because they hold all the power on Skyrim's workshop area. THEY had to ban those people in the end for being thieves, liars, and generally toxic people. The community is better off without them infecting it with their hatred. They have their own little shithole on the net to spend all day swapping I Hate Arthmoor stories. Let them stay there.

 

There was a whole thing with rampant mod theft going on 2 years ago. A whole lot of people on a whole lot of sites were up in arms about it. Nasty shit. Nexus weighed in as usual, as did a few other places. I know Arthmoor spoke up about it since he's pretty big on advocating for modders' rights to control their work. The toxic assholes who think they should be able to steal what they want and use it as their own obviously didn't like that a prominent figure in the community was, in their words, "trying to destroy modding". One of those people even posted in the thread you linked and flat out admitted what they did and then spun a wonderfully false version of the events for everyone's benefit. Thankfully the community as a whole is smart enough to realize it's an entirely fictional account of what really happened.

 

Perhaps Arthmoor's bluntness and sometimes abrasive response to people stems from having been treated like shit in the earlier days of Skyrim modding? It might not be a healthy thing if he's still nursing a grudge over it, but it would explain quite a bit.

 

I'm sorry but after doing a search for your, "information," I see little more than hearsay, propaganda and the rumors.  YOU HAVE NOTHING.  Other than a notification from Vampire Dante he's being banned and a comment war between him and members of the blogspot I see NOTHING.  If Kendo really was stalking this person via internet, which I seriously doubt, why agitate about OVER OPEN FORUMS?  If its a personal problem that person should have contacted admins immediately with the first offense not wait and see if he eventually stops.  Or at the very least talk with Kendo SINCERELY about said behavior.

 

Now I'm not going to judge a person for said harassment that may or may not have occurred.  As for you calling Kendo out on something you have NO concrete evidence of other than 2 obscure sites I leave you to fester in your own indignation.  I won't argue with someone who obviously is the extreme one-side of the total problem.  Have a nice day.

[maybenexttime]

I'm still generally surprised at the hatred towards the nexus. Some of the moderators are assholes but its still not enough to condemn an entire community. In fact I met a lot of nice people from Nexus.

[DoctaSax]

I fail to see what complaining about Nexus policies has to do with calling out particular modders on either arrogance or being "too pro-Nexus". Grudges over spats in the past shouldn't be repackaged in an LL v Nexus type argument. Arthmoor did a lot of good work over the years, and can't be expected to be 100% nice to 100% of the people 100% of all that time. Because frankly, yes, people wear you down. If he was ever wrong about something, so what. I hope that some day someone on a site I don't visit won't be calling me jackass because of some thing I did and that's gonna be all I'm about.
 

Then again, this is one thread, and it might not actually represent the majority of the community here. It's 94 pages though, and filled with what appear to be some of the most regular members here. It casts a pretty negative shadow on things if this really isn't how most folks conduct themselves here.

It "might" not? Why would you assume different? If you picked this thread to judge the entire site by, that'd be your mistake. So golly, thanks for tentatively stating your intention not to make it. Have a look around - you might find something you do like.

[Kendo 2]

You are not entitled to assert it as factual when everything in evidence proves otherwise.

Kinda like you and your 'research'  or your 'five pages' worth of reasons why I was banned?  Do you mean factual like THAT?

 

But you know, if that's how you want to troll, go for it. All you're really doing is reinforcing public opinion about the membership on this site in doing so. I came here to find out if any of that was true, and you've all confirmed it quite nicely.

And the truth comes out.  You're a creature of Nexus.  I don't think you're a staff member there.  I think you're just another busy-body Nexus-tard doing what Nexus-tards do.

 

You've already proven yourself to be a liar so no one is going to give ANYTHING you say credence.  Whatever you tried to accomplish failed miserably.  It isn't any secret what is said in this thread.  Thousands of people pour through this site on a daily basis and this thread is one of the most popular.  There is a reason for that, and it is the way the Nexus Staff conducts themselves.  If they weren't a pack of fuck-ups this thread wouldn't exist.  No one would be saying ANYHTING about them.  Do you want proof of that concept?  Where is the thread pointing out all of the short comings of the Lover's Lab staff?  Oh wait!  There ISN'T ONE because they act like moderators, not what-ever-the-fuck Dark0ne and his crew of douches have going on.  And that is the same staff of goons you're cheering for.  So much for you and the assholes you support having the moral high ground.

 

You don't like what is being said here?  FINE.  Bump it on down/kick rocks/pound sand/vanish most riki-tik.  Nothing is making you stay here outside of your own bullshit agenda.

 

To my Lover's Lab Brethren,

It might be a good idea to simply ignore this 'person' since he's already blown his cover and we all know what he says isn't going to make a fuck bit of difference on the way things flow here.  This thread is a thorn in their sides over at Nexus and they cannnot control it, thus they come creeping, all slithery and sly.  But we always prevail and this little hiccup isn't any different.  Shoo fly.  Shoo.

[Captain Cobra]

These last few pages have given me the giggles.

 

Please, Continue.

[ArgusSCCT]

 

Wow. Talk about totally blowing it. You guys heaped all that hate against THE WRONG PERSON. Arthmoor did not write that guide. Alternity (or however he leatspeak spells the stupid name) wrote it.

All that shit about the oblivion gates and open cities is a perfect example of why you don't antagonize mod authors. If you don't like what they're doing, don't use it. Seems simple enough. So fucking what if he wanted to put silly oblivion gates into the mod. It's his mod. Those people who stole his mod and uploaded it to Steam? They deserved every bit of rage he directed at them for it. You know what? Bethesda supported him in it too because they hold all the power on Skyrim's workshop area. THEY had to ban those people in the end for being thieves, liars, and generally toxic people. The community is better off without them infecting it with their hatred. They have their own little shithole on the net to spend all day swapping I Hate Arthmoor stories. Let them stay there.

 

There was a whole thing with rampant mod theft going on 2 years ago. A whole lot of people on a whole lot of sites were up in arms about it. Nasty shit. Nexus weighed in as usual, as did a few other places. I know Arthmoor spoke up about it since he's pretty big on advocating for modders' rights to control their work. The toxic assholes who think they should be able to steal what they want and use it as their own obviously didn't like that a prominent figure in the community was, in their words, "trying to destroy modding". One of those people even posted in the thread you linked and flat out admitted what they did and then spun a wonderfully false version of the events for everyone's benefit. Thankfully the community as a whole is smart enough to realize it's an entirely fictional account of what really happened.

 

Perhaps Arthmoor's bluntness and sometimes abrasive response to people stems from having been treated like shit in the earlier days of Skyrim modding? It might not be a healthy thing if he's still nursing a grudge over it, but it would explain quite a bit.

 

 

 

I think you missed the point. I don't know about mod theft and the like, and I don't know if it was valid or not, lots of people said that those who released that stuff did it the right way. Regardless, my point is proven by the fact that he took down that guide, and screwed everyone over because some people did something. Is everyone responsible for the actions of two people? No, they're not, not everyone is a moron in the Nexus or in any place, but treating people like that because of some people are morons is wrong, regardless of what it is that you have or have not done. 

 

You say he's nothing like Giskard, but that temper tantrum he threw about Open Cities is the same sort of madness Giskard threw about someone having cleaned his mods. Call it what you want, it is the same thing. I did not post that because someone stole, I posted it because it proves that he's a prick to everyone he deems "inferior". I'll admit this, I haven't had to deal with giving support to anyone or people stealing my files, I don't know what it is like. Either way I don't care, and care even less if he has a grudge for whatever ridiculous reason, if he created the greatest mod in the world or whatever, that doesn't mean he can do as he pleases, and his an ass nonetheless. In fact I don't care if he outright deletes his mods and leaves, his skills are not invaluable, someone else will come up with something. The fact that there are people who fixed problems that he couldn't is proof enough. 

 

I don't care if you like my opinion or not, I stated what I thought about him, because I am sick and tired of self proclaimed "badasses" of modding. Especially, when the Nexus does nothing to put them in line, which is one of the Nexus' fundamental issues, you can't talk back too much to these people or talk to them too harshly or you'll get banned for "insulting a  mod author". Look around, this isn't the only place where people don't have a very good opinion about the Nexus or even that author in particular. He earned that reputation himself, and it is rightfully deserved, he's got no one to blame but himself for it. There are plenty others who are on equal terms or better terms than him, and few of them receive that much negative criticism. 

 

And before you say anything of being a regular on this site, take notice at my post count, and really the site doesn't matter to me. If I could post this on the Nexus and call out that author for being the prick that he is, I would, but that's not really possible now is it? 

 

 

 

[Hayleyrose2323]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta5eNrrVxMQ

 

mhm this says it all

[ElectricSheep]

I don't know what exactly happened between Kendo 2 and the Nexus staff, but if you come to a site and throw accusations out of thin air claiming you have 5 pages worth of proof, and thereafter, dared to show them, act as if nothing have ever happened, then whose credibility is lost? Take responsibility for your own words and either admit you were just coming up with shit, or show us proof you were talking about.

[Sheojendphine]

 

 

Kinda like you and your 'research'  or your 'five pages' worth of reasons why I was banned?  Do you mean factual like THAT?

If you had bothered to actually look at what was given to you.....
 

 

And the truth comes out.  You're a creature of Nexus.  I don't think you're a staff member there.  I think you're just another busy-body Nexus-tard doing what Nexus-tards do.

Nexus-tards. Dude. Are you even listening to yourself speak? Or do the insults just flow like water naturally from your lips?

 

You've already proven yourself to be a liar so no one is going to give ANYTHING you say credence.

No, that's just your bias confirming for you what you think should be true.

 

There is a reason for that, and it is the way the Nexus Staff conducts themselves.

Oh, there's a reason for it alright. It's what members who get banned always do - they run off to whine about how horrible it was that they got banned. The most common trait they all share is the refusal to admit the problem was of their own making. Instead, they project it on to others who were not at fault.

 

Where is the thread pointing out all of the short comings of the Lover's Lab staff?  Oh wait!  There ISN'T ONE because they act like moderators, not what-ever-the-fuck Dark0ne and his crew of douches have going on.  And that is the same staff of goons you're cheering for.  So much for you and the assholes you support having the moral high ground.

Wait. Let me get this straight. You fling around claims that Nexus would ban people for the kinds of things you're saying about them here but seriously expect that anyone should believe setting up an insult thread about the staff here on Lover's Lab wouldn't result in the same? I don't know whether that makes you simply naive or grossly ignorant or what.
 

 

I think you missed the point. I don't know about mod theft and the like, and I don't know if it was valid or not, lots of people said that those who released that stuff did it the right way. Regardless, my point is proven by the fact that he took down that guide, and screwed everyone over because some people did something. Is everyone responsible for the actions of two people? No, they're not, not everyone is a moron in the Nexus or in any place, but treating people like that because of some people are morons is wrong, regardless of what it is that you have or have not done.

Lot's of people claiming it was done the right way doesn't make it the right way. That is the logic of a child. The plain fact of it is, what those people did was wrong. Bethesda backed Arthmoor up on that 100%. Those members are still banned to this day. Those files are nowhere to be found to this day, on Steam or anywhere else that's run in a respectable manner.

 

You say he's nothing like Giskard, but that temper tantrum he threw about Open Cities is the same sort of madness Giskard threw about someone having cleaned his mods.

It's not even remotely the same thing. Giskard spends endless hours of endless days posting complete drivel to his site about how only he knows how to make good mods and only he knows how Bethesda's file system works and how only he knows what their engine bugs do and how to work around them. All of which is provably false with 5 minutes of research on any other site anywhere.

Arthmoor's "tantrum" was a legitimate rage against people who were stealing his work. You want to know what the irony is? Even Giskard defended him on it, and the two of them hate each other's guts. A lot of us actually wondered if the two of them were going to bury the hatchet, but Giskard went right back to posting attack threads against him after the theft was resolved.

 

The fact that there are people who fixed problems that he couldn't is proof enough.

I'd be interested to know what these problems are supposed to be, because like the guy or not, Arthmoor knows his shit.

 

I don't care if you like my opinion or not, I stated what I thought about him, because I am sick and tired of self proclaimed "badasses" of modding.

So direct some of that righteous anger at targets who deserve it then. You keep saying shit like this but Arthmoor has never been the type. Not once. You won't find threads anywhere where he self-proclaims himself as anything of the sort. I don't think it's HIS ego that needs to be checked at the door, frankly. He's more humble than most of the primadonas that populate the Nexus. Especially the ones who write up the ridiculous mod descriptions full of snarky insults and supposedly funny characterizations of the people using their stuff. Like ApolloDown, for one. Nobody rips on him for doing it. I can only imagine your rage if Arthmoor started doing the same.

 

Especially, when the Nexus does nothing to put them in line, which is one of the Nexus' fundamental issues, you can't talk back too much to these people or talk to them too harshly or you'll get banned for "insulting a  mod author". Look around, this isn't the only place where people don't have a very good opinion about the Nexus or even that author in particular. He earned that reputation himself, and it is rightfully deserved, he's got no one to blame but himself for it. There are plenty others who are on equal terms or better terms than him, and few of them receive that much negative criticism.

The problem is that I see too many people wrapping insults, personal attacks, trolling, and flamebait under the term "criticism". None of it is actually criticism. Nexus explicitly allows that, whether mod authors agree with it or not.

As far as Nexus hate, they're the largest modding site for Bethesda games on the internet. They have something like 7 million members and nearly 100,000 mods between the 4 major sections of the site. They can't all be happy people. Other sites do have threads that have people hating on Nexus, but this one thread is by far the largest of all of them combined. There's a reason Lover's Lab has the reputation it does as a safe haven for banned Nexus members. You might just find a lot of those banned members are also banned on plenty of other well known community sites like TES Alliance and Dark Creations.

 

And before you say anything of being a regular on this site, take notice at my post count, and really the site doesn't matter to me. If I could post this on the Nexus and call out that author for being the prick that he is, I would, but that's not really possible now is it?

Yes, but you can't "call him out for the prick he is" because on Nexus that's a ToS violation. Personal attacks, insults, troll/flamebait etc. Take your pick. That's not allowed there and I am glad for it.

[Hayleyrose2323]

Eh. Coming out and saying Hey I dont like the way your acting is a ToS violation? :0 
 

"Oh, there's a reason for it alright. It's what members who get banned always do - they run off to whine about how horrible it was that they got banned. The most common trait they all share is the refusal to admit the problem was of their own making. Instead, they project it on to others who were not at fault."

 

But you dont know that I don't know about alll the other stuff, but I am smart enough to know Nexus has some big issues and half of its members and staff aren't the nicest people. And that often leads to bans that aren't really deserving. Now of course i'm not saying all the bans cuz that would be just crazy but yea...

 

I mean you can't really ignore it, this isn't the only website that has reported issues from Nexus. 

 

But yea saying all people who are banned was at fault is just silly lol. "It's what members who get banned always do" (ALWAYS) 

 

I mean yea no one is perfect and no website and community is perfect but Nexus is a whole other story. It may be popular and stuff but that doesn't mean it doesn't have issues, just like what was said above about bad ass modders acting like fools lol same goes for the nexus website, bad ass website full of fools

 

I hope i worded that properly @_@ i can be a pretty big fool myself lol

[ElectricSheep]

 

Kinda like you and your 'research'  or your 'five pages' worth of reasons why I was banned?  Do you mean factual like THAT?

If you had bothered to actually look at what was given to you.....

Whatever proof you're given, it's invisible to me. You can easily prove yourself right by copy/pasting links.

[Sheojendphine]

Eh. Coming out and saying Hey I dont like the way your acting is a ToS violation? :0

Probably not, unless it's contained within an insulting message or something. Though there would be nothing to stop an author who got such a message from deleting the post and possibly blocking the person who posted it.

 

But you dont know that I don't know about alll the other stuff, but I am smart enough to know Nexus has some big issues and half of its members and staff aren't the nicest people. And that often leads to bans that aren't really deserving. Now of course i'm not saying all the bans cuz that would be just crazy but yea...

No, I don't know it for certain, but I can make some pretty informed guesses based on statistical analysis. It seems weird to me that banned members tend to be the only ones hurling insults and claiming they did nothing wrong and didn't deserve it. I've run forums myself before and it fits in with the patterns I and my fellow co-admins saw all the time.

 

I mean you can't really ignore it, this isn't the only website that has reported issues from Nexus.

No, but it is the most outspoken and vocal about it which more or less paints the picture of it being a haven for the trolls to hide at. That's the impression people have anyway. Part of what I was trying to find out for myself even. Threads like this don't speak well. They really don't have any place in a civilized community of individuals. I get why the moderators did it, but I stil think he logic is flawed and those people have blogs they can spew hate on if they feel it's necessary.

 

But yea saying all people who are banned was at fault is just silly lol. "It's what members who get banned always do" (ALWAYS)

Would saying the vast majority are at fault help then? Either way, if a few innocent people got caught up in something they weren't really a part of it doesn't prove a pattern of abuse. It proves the staff is human and makes mistakes. How they own up to those is what you should be judging.

 

I mean yea no one is perfect and no website and community is perfect but Nexus is a whole other story. It may be popular and stuff but that doesn't mean it doesn't have issues, just like what was said above about bad ass modders acting like fools lol same goes for the nexus website, bad ass website full of fools

All sites have issues. ALL OF THEM. Nexus issues just seem bigger than they really are because of the size of the site, not because of systemic problems within the management.

 

"They're fascist pigs" is the cry of a banned member who knows they were caught out.

 

If your (the general your) ban was unjustified, then a proper ban appeal will fix that right up.

[Guest Omega1084]

I got curious since I don't know the whole story of how Kendo got banned besides what I got from this thread and I couldn't find anything on Google. My search query was "kendo banned from nexus"
Just the Wall of Shame post from Don'te and these are the only Kendo-related things on the net worth looking through.

The rest is internet stuff about things completely unrelated to modding. In fact, page 2 is mostly about WWE and there was a fanfic about Sword Art Online.

 

[Lexi SubZero]

Don't mind me..I'm just here to enjoy the show..

 

..also waiting for the grand revelation of which Nexus moderator Sheojendphine really is... ...any bets on that?

[Kendo 2]

 

Kinda like you and your 'research'  or your 'five pages' worth of reasons why I was banned?  Do you mean factual like THAT?

If you had bothered to actually look at what was given to you.....

You are so full of shit it is no longer entertaining.  I looked and so have other people and no one is seeing your 'five pages' of proof.  That's because there isn't five pages worth of anything concerning me being banned.  But whatever you do, DO NOT back off of that 'five pages' thing, or that you 'know' why I was banned because of your 'research'.  Yeah, research on things that do not exist.

 

As to anything else you think you can pull out of your ass and foist as 'facts'...*laughs in your face*  You're a proven liar and that's all there is to you.  That isn't my wishful thinking.  You did that to yourself, dumb ass.

 

AND this thread will continue untll the staff here says otherwise.  There is jack-shit you can do about it.  hardy-har-har.

 

Oh yeah, and quote of the day right here.  I laughed so hard I hurt my ribs.

All sites have issues. ALL OF THEM. Nexus issues just seem bigger than they really are because of the size of the site, not because of systemic problems within the management.

So who's making the decisions over there?  Leprechauns?

 

 

[ElectricSheep]

 

There is a reason for that, and it is the way the Nexus Staff conducts themselves.

Oh, there's a reason for it alright. It's what members who get banned always do - they run off to whine about how horrible it was that they got banned. The most common trait they all share is the refusal to admit the problem was of their own making. Instead, they project it on to others who were not at fault.

The only person whining is you and the fact that you registered on this site solely to do that [whine] speaks volumes. You say shit about ppl you don't know shit about on a site you don't know shit about having no proof but shit - because you're full of exactly that: shit.

 

The main reason why this thread is 95 pages long, is because it's entertaining - just like any "post funny pics/videos" kind of thread. There's nothing like a good laugh and sir Dork0ne and his staff never fail to deliver a good laughing material.

 

[Kinky]

I was on nexus chat there was a person named BlackKiller or something like that. I made a joke asked him is he racist killing black ppl.

I got banned for racism...

 

Now im enjoying my big computer generated boobs here... and using new account on nexus XD

[Sheojendphine]

 

 

You are so full of shit it is no longer entertaining.  I looked and so have other people and no one is seeing your 'five pages' of proof.  That's because there isn't five pages worth of anything concerning me being banned.  But whatever you do, DO NOT back off of that 'five pages' thing, or that you 'know' why I was banned because of your 'research'.  Yeah, research on things that do not exist.

Omega seems to have found two of the several pieces easily enough. Why can't you? Oh... yeah. Personal bias got your tongue?
 

 

You're a proven liar and that's all there is to you.

Because lord Kendo says so, right? HAH!

 

AND this thread will continue untll the staff here says otherwise.  There is jack-shit you can do about it.  hardy-har-har.

Never said otherwise. I still think it's a dumb idea though. Shows poor taste at best.
 

 

So who's making the decisions over there?  Leprechauns?

Thankfully not you. I can't imagine the disaster the place would be now if you were in charge.
 

 

The only person whining is you and the fact that you registered on this site solely to do that [whine] speaks volumes. You say shit about ppl you don't know shit about on a site you don't know shit about having no proof but shit - because you're full of exactly that: shit.

So the last 90 pages or so were all me I take it. Uh huh. Try again. I know enough about the people in this thread to make an informed judgment.

Plus the fact that you're all now assuming I'm a moderator from Nexus. That's rich. As if only Nexus moderators could possibly think Nexus has positive traits.

This is a rant thread, full of vicious hate speech. It's hardly going to qualify as proof of anything about the quality of Nexus. Hell, it looks like it's basically the same 10 people bitching endlessly and slapping each other on the back for the wittiness of the latest insult of the day.

I'm sure you guys would love to see me leave and never come back. If only you could see the irony in wanting that to happen.

[D_ManXX2]

I was going to reply then i took an arrow to the knee.