Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

15 hours ago, Kotomka said:

Race menu error: SKSE version mismatch detected 66. Expected 72. But I am using latest skse lol? 

 

Why do you think the racemenu error has anything to do with installing DD? Just because it's a requirement doesn't mean support for that mod is here.

Try asking in the troubleshooting section of the LL forum or ask on the racemenu nexus page.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, SilentPain99 said:

 

Thanks

 

I understood around 50% I think ..

I am not so smart or I would not have that problem ^^

 

I have the newest game version

the newest racemenu

the newest skse

 

I always do the "batch build" in bodyslide.

 

The only thing which is overwriting DD is "DD-NG".

 

Can you use actual version numbers instead of "latest" or "newest"? 

Or attach your logs like I asked? You start in your documents folder. everything between \ is a folder name. keep clicking folders until you get to the files. Drag the files into your comment window when replying.

 

For bodyslide, there's invisible outfits section on the troubleshooting post. Try those steps.

[Guest]

13 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Can you use actual version numbers instead of "latest" or "newest"? 

Or attach your logs like I asked? You start in your documents folder. everything between \ is a folder name. keep clicking folders until you get to the files. Drag the files into your comment window when replying.

 

For bodyslide, there's invisible outfits section on the troubleshooting post. Try those steps.

Thank you.

I will try it ^^

 

 

Recemenu version 0.4.19.16

SKSE version 2.2.6

Game 1.6.1170

 

And here is the log

 

Thanks for helping me 🙂

skse64.log0

[zarantha]

48 minutes ago, SilentPain99 said:

Thank you.

I will try it ^^

 

 

Recemenu version 0.4.19.16

SKSE version 2.2.6

Game 1.6.1170

 

And here is the log

 

Thanks for helping me 🙂

skse64.log0 38.54 kB · 0 downloads

 

Skee's loading correctly and that's the right version, so if you're getting the nioverride message then you either have the wrong DD or some patch is overwriting DD.

DD NG wouldn't do it and is ok to have.

 

You installed DD from here? And you don't have separate versions of DD installed? No DD Assets, DD Integration, DD Expansion installed separately (these are LE only mods)?

If you have DCL, you used the SE version from here?

[Guest]

22 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Skee's loading correctly and that's the right version, so if you're getting the nioverride message then you either have the wrong DD or some patch is overwriting DD.

DD NG wouldn't do it and is ok to have.

 

You installed DD from here? And you don't have separate versions of DD installed? No DD Assets, DD Integration, DD Expansion installed separately (these are LE only mods)?

If you have DCL, you used the SE version from here?

I installed DD from here, and DCL also from here.

I think I found the "mistake" I did not install a "heels fix" mod.

After I did that, it looks like it is working, but can still not believe, that this was the problem.

Was not the problem ... sometimes I can not wear heels sometimes I can wear them ... I am confused ..

 

But I still am not able to make the "harnesses" like "corsets/ropes" maybe more visible.

And not even the "DD bra" is visible.

I used bodyslide correctly.

 

I just remember, I also have DD Equip, which is not working properly during the game shows messages about not working ... Do not remember the right words anymore ^^, could that mod be the problem ?

Edited February 11, 2024 by SilentPain99

[Yiisus_Christ]

Currently having an issue where I can't move in 3rd person in a strict hobble skirt. Is anyone else having this issue? A temporary workaround I've found is to go into 3rd person and use auto-walk forward then go back to third person, but I would rather be able to walk in the hobble skirt as intended. It also doesn't happen if I'm just very encumbered, even over a thousand over my weight limit. Using cursed loot, DD NG, and in Skyrim AE if that helps. All mods up to date.

[xoxoleah32123]

Currently having issue with DD dll being incompatible with current version for AE any help or ideas i am using vortex

[zarantha]

22 hours ago, SilentPain99 said:

I installed DD from here, and DCL also from here.

I think I found the "mistake" I did not install a "heels fix" mod.

After I did that, it looks like it is working, but can still not believe, that this was the problem.

Was not the problem ... sometimes I can not wear heels sometimes I can wear them ... I am confused ..

 

But I still am not able to make the "harnesses" like "corsets/ropes" maybe more visible.

And not even the "DD bra" is visible.

I used bodyslide correctly.

 

I just remember, I also have DD Equip, which is not working properly during the game shows messages about not working ... Do not remember the right words anymore ^^, could that mod be the problem ?

 

No, a heel fix is not required. The check (the pop up message) is in DD and DCL's scripts. It looks for nioverride.dll for LE and skee.dll for SE from racemenu.  In SE, Racemenu renamed the nioverride.dll to skee.dll, thus all the problems with detection early on. This is why I said it has to be something overwriting DD's or DCL's scripts, or a wrong version installed. It's not anything external to DD unless specific scripts are overwritten. DD NG is on the only thing that should be overwriting DD now.

 

If it's fixed, great. If not then delete everything in your Data folder in Skyrim, and then revalidate the files in steam. This should make sure there's no loose files taking priority over what's in your mod manager. Then disable everything in your mod manager except DD (and DD NG if you're on 1.6.1130 or 1.6.1170) and it's requirements. Do not add any patches or other mods that require DD. Start a new game and test again. If it's working then add your other mods in one at a time, testing each time.

 

Do the harnesses and corset or ropes show if you're naked and not wearing anything else? If so, disable device hider if you want those things to show on top of other clothing. 

If not, then again, do what was mentioned before. Follow the invisible outfit troubleshooting I linked before. Screenshot the pop up that shows up after building one of the outfits that is missing. 

[zarantha]

18 hours ago, Yiisus_Christ said:

Currently having an issue where I can't move in 3rd person in a strict hobble skirt. Is anyone else having this issue? A temporary workaround I've found is to go into 3rd person and use auto-walk forward then go back to third person, but I would rather be able to walk in the hobble skirt as intended. It also doesn't happen if I'm just very encumbered, even over a thousand over my weight limit. Using cursed loot, DD NG, and in Skyrim AE if that helps. All mods up to date.

 

It's a result of  the way DD forces you to walk slow. You get a huge debuff to your carryweight (-180,000 or so), which makes you walk slow normally, and sometimes you just can't walk if you get multiple debuffs. What you've described is the normal workaround recommended. Toggle viewpoint, start walking, then hit F again to switch back to your normal viewpoint while walking.

 

You can also increase your carryweight to ridiculous amounts, or toggle god mod.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, xoxoleah32123 said:

Currently having issue with DD dll being incompatible with current version for AE any help or ideas i am using vortex

 

Yet another person who can't read even one page back, where I linked the post on how to fix this twice.

 

Go here and read.

 

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

No, a heel fix is not required. The check (the pop up message) is in DD and DCL's scripts. It looks for nioverride.dll for LE and skee.dll for SE from racemenu.  In SE, Racemenu renamed the nioverride.dll to skee.dll, thus all the problems with detection early on. This is why I said it has to be something overwriting DD's or DCL's scripts, or a wrong version installed. It's not anything external to DD unless specific scripts are overwritten. DD NG is on the only thing that should be overwriting DD now.

 

If it's fixed, great. If not then delete everything in your Data folder in Skyrim, and then revalidate the files in steam. This should make sure there's no loose files taking priority over what's in your mod manager. Then disable everything in your mod manager except DD (and DD NG if you're on 1.6.1130 or 1.6.1170) and it's requirements. Do not add any patches or other mods that require DD. Start a new game and test again. If it's working then add your other mods in one at a time, testing each time.

 

Do the harnesses and corset or ropes show if you're naked and not wearing anything else? If so, disable device hider if you want those things to show on top of other clothing. 

If not, then again, do what was mentioned before. Follow the invisible outfit troubleshooting I linked before. Screenshot the pop up that shows up after building one of the outfits that is missing. 

Thank you.

I will try it, but not today, have to many mods ^^

 

But one question reminds, what is a device hider ?

 

When I am building them, there comes only that it was successful.. just one from the mod bec, can not be deployed.

[zarantha]

4 minutes ago, SilentPain99 said:

Thank you.

I will try it, but not today, have to many mods ^^

 

But one question reminds, what is a device hider ?

 

When I am building them, there comes only that it was successful.. just one from the mod bec, can not be deployed.

 

Bodyslide can successfully build to the wrong path. If it's in the wrong path, it can't be used. 

 

Device hider is a DD feature that hides devices that should not be visible when worn with other clothing. Corsets would not show if you're wearing armor for instance. A more extreme example is without device hider, you'd have nipple piercings show through your steel armor. With device hider, the nipple piercings are hidden when you wear any body armor. You can set it off in DD's MCM if you want everything to show up. This is useful for modular armors, as base DD would hid some pieces of armor based on the slot when worn in combination.  

[Guest]

On 2/11/2024 at 9:50 PM, zarantha said:

 

Bodyslide can successfully build to the wrong path. If it's in the wrong path, it can't be used. 

 

Device hider is a DD feature that hides devices that should not be visible when worn with other clothing. Corsets would not show if you're wearing armor for instance. A more extreme example is without device hider, you'd have nipple piercings show through your steel armor. With device hider, the nipple piercings are hidden when you wear any body armor. You can set it off in DD's MCM if you want everything to show up. This is useful for modular armors, as base DD would hid some pieces of armor based on the slot when worn in combination.  

It now shows the devices. :-DDDDDDDD

... they were hidden ... I am sooooo sorry ... THANK YOU.

 

But now .. The devices will not be locked anymore, and as soon as I put them away, and not all of them will vanish, after putting them away again.

 

But now it shows the message, that DD is broken, maybe during an update, same meaning just in other words ... (after restarting the game, the message vanished)

I have bad karma ...

Edited February 13, 2024 by SilentPain99

[Yiisus_Christ]

7 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

It's a result of  the way DD forces you to walk slow. You get a huge debuff to your carryweight (-180,000 or so), which makes you walk slow normally, and sometimes you just can't walk if you get multiple debuffs. What you've described is the normal workaround recommended. Toggle viewpoint, start walking, then hit F again to switch back to your normal viewpoint while walking.

 

You can also increase your carryweight to ridiculous amounts, or toggle god mod.

Thanks, good to know its a known issue

[teine_biorach]

All I had to do was diligently read through the responses from those in this comment thread with the right answers and trouble shoot the errors I was having. I love this mod, and the satisfaction of watching it perform as intended is just the best. Never quit trying to work it out for yourself, enough leg work and follow through when it comes to compiling the correct mods, assets, and patches can make all the difference.

 

To all that gave the right advice, I salute you!

[almostliquid1]

Hello this is my frst post so i hope this is the right thread but my dd ae version 5.2 is crashing my game on start up cause my ddl file is not compadable anyone who knows how to fix it ?

[UsernameTaken666]

3 hours ago, almostliquid1 said:

Hello this is my frst post so i hope this is the right thread but my dd ae version 5.2 is crashing my game on start up cause my ddl file is not compadable anyone who knows how to fix it ?

First thing I would suggest is try some reading in this thread as this has been addressed numerous times.

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, almostliquid1 said:

Hello this is my frst post so i hope this is the right thread but my dd ae version 5.2 is crashing my game on start up cause my ddl file is not compadable anyone who knows how to fix it ?

 

sigh...

six posts up from yours.

[Dweny]

Hello, I have a problem with this mod and hair mods with physics that use HDT or SMP.

 

Every time I use racemenu to change the hair it makes the physics deactivate, to make them work I have to save the game and load it again with that same hair or equip and unequip an outfit (It doesn't always work. The best option is to save and load )

 

I understand this is because of how the mod works. From what I was reading, the plugins and scripts do not work until you save and load the game for the first time. But this does not apply to hair, you have to do it every time you change to one that uses hair physics.

 

Do you know how I can solve this?

Edited February 15, 2024 by Dweny

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Dweny said:

Hello, I have a problem with this mod and hair mods with physics that use HDT or SMP.

 

Every time I use racemenu to change the hair it makes the physics deactivate, to make them work I have to save the game and load it again with that same hair or equip and unequip an outfit (It doesn't always work. The best option is to save and load )

 

I understand this is because of how the mod works. From what I was reading, the plugins and scripts do not work until you save and load the game for the first time. But this does not apply to hair, you have to do it every time you change to one that uses hair physics.

 

Do you know how I can solve this?

 

No idea on your hair, and this isn't the place for that question. You ask on the mod you got your hair from, not random other mods just because they have some requirements in common. All I can say is it's normal and expected nowadays that hair physics don't work in the racemenu character creation screens. It used to but it hasn't worked for a long time now, over multiple versions. It should apply after leaving character creation without restarting the game. If it's not talk to the author that made your hair.

 

Now is there a DD question in there? 

[Dweny]

32 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

No idea on your hair, and this isn't the place for that question. You ask on the mod you got your hair from, not random other mods just because they have some requirements in common. All I can say is it's normal and expected nowadays that hair physics don't work in the racemenu character creation screens. It used to but it hasn't worked for a long time now, over multiple versions. It should apply after leaving character creation without restarting the game. If it's not talk to the author that made your hair.

 

Now is there a DD question in there? 

I say this because I sensed that it could be a problem that someone else might experience when installing DD.

Although the way the mods work, it is not known if the problem is really DD. I have tried to Disable it and the problem is solved. But as I say, the problem may be DD or another mod that interferes with DD.

I would say it's a problem with a specific hair mod. But all the mods that have physics stop working. That's why I didn't put it on the "MOD" page but here.

Edited February 15, 2024 by Dweny

[zarantha]

15 minutes ago, Dweny said:

I say this because I sensed that it could be a problem that someone else might experience when installing DD.

Although the way the mods work, it is not known if the problem is really DD. I have tried to Disable it and the problem is solved. But as I say, the problem may be DD or another mod that interferes with DD.

I would say it's a problem with a specific hair mod. But all the mods that have physics stop working. That's why I didn't put it on the "MOD" page but here.

 

DD doesn't touch your hair. It's either an issue with your hair, or an issue with how you've configured SMP and would be better asked on those mods.

Unless you're wearing a hood. But then that's a basic skyrim mechanic where hair is removed because and item is occupying the same slot.

 

There's an option for helmets and hair i'm trying to find, but it's an SMP option. which again, we use but don't support...

 

Edit: this in skse\plugins\hdtskinnedmeshconfigs\configs.xml

 

If that doesn't do what you want, then ask the SMP guys why your SMP stops working.

Edited February 15, 2024 by zarantha

[Dweny]

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

DD doesn't touch your hair. It's either an issue with your hair, or an issue with how you've configured SMP and would be better asked on those mods.

Unless you're wearing a hood. But then that's a basic skyrim mechanic where hair is removed because and item is occupying the same slot.

 

There's an option for helmets and hair i'm trying to find, but it's an SMP option. which again, we use but don't support...

 

Edit: this in skse\plugins\hdtskinnedmeshconfigs\configs.xml

 

If that doesn't do what you want, then ask the SMP guys why your SMP stops working.

This solved my problem! For some reason this is enabled by default in Faster HDT-SMP version 2.2.1  Sorry for the inconvenience caused, it didn't give me a problem until I installed DD which doesn't make sense.

 

Thank you!

[VRaptorz98]

I thought i'd just place something i noticed on here. If you are having the "DeviousDevices.DLL is Disabled" problem and you have followed the guide as per Zarantha's guide and suggestions:

 

Install DD SE 5.2

Install DD NG

Both Mods are active

DD NG Overwrites DD SE

*Don't install any DLL fixes for DD SE

 

Something that worked for me was outside of the mod manager, unpack the Devious Devices [SE][AE][VR] 5.2 so it generates the file and then rezip the folder it created. Then add that new rezipped file into your mod manager, follow the rest of the above script and it solved that error for me. Sorry if this has been clarified elsewhere but thought i'd make it more noted since i see a lot of people commenting about the DLL issue despite following the guidance. I use MO2 in case that makes a difference. I'm currently having a CTD issue when loading new save files but will try all the other fixes and things like checking for consoleutils and the other patches before coming back for guidance. Thanks for the helpful info @zarantha

[raider12140]

On 12/27/2023 at 2:06 PM, zarantha said:

 

 

"Devious Devices [SE][AE][VR] 5.2" will be your base install. There is no new version of this download, it is the latest. 

Yes, you pick *any* DLL - none of the choices  in the installer will work out of the box with 1.6.1130. 1.6.640 is as good as any other choice.

 

Then to fix the DLL issue with 1.6.1130 you will do ONE of these options (ALL of which existed prior to 1.6.1130, so none are 'new'. Thus "no new files"):

1. Install Devious Devices NG. It will overwrite DD, including DD's DLL. It's DLL works with all versions of the game.

2. Go to the troubleshooting post. Pick one of the alternate DLLs under the DD 5.2 spoiler. You will install that as a separate mod overwriting DD, or simply swap out the DLLs.

3. Go to the troubleshooting post. Install the script fix for the script errors under the DD 5.2 spoiler. This removes the need for the DLL entirely. Delete or hide it from DD's files.

 

Edit: If you're still crashing, then switch your ConsoleUtils to the NG version. The original mod is causing CTDs when used with various mods, including DD.

i did what you said here and got NG version (still have the 5.2 versions as well) but im still getting a message saying "devious devices dll disabled incompatible with the current version of the game, nioverride.dll LE plugin cannot be used with SE" what am i doing wrong?