Devious Devices SE

[kabalfs]

Good day to everyone, I have a simple question: is there a way to remove completely the "gag speech" debuff? Or whatever it is that causes the talk action to be swapped by "mmhmm" followed by a series of more "mhm"? 

Everything works great, the mod is wonderful, but the speech minigame is driving me insane... The potion removal, thu'um stun and the other effects are all interesting, but the speech debuff is a constant source of fury, so if possible, I want the speech thingy gone but the rest to stay, I simply can't stand it no longer. Also, I've searched the forums for some time but got nothing, only people having trouble with gags not working. 

 

I thank you all for any help at all. 

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, raider12140 said:

i did what you said here and got NG version (still have the 5.2 versions as well) but im still getting a message saying "devious devices dll disabled incompatible with the current version of the game, nioverride.dll LE plugin cannot be used with SE" what am i doing wrong?

 

If you installed DD NG, then you would ask on that mod if you still have problems.

 

But basically, make sure nothing is overwriting DD NG. If something is, remove it.

 

Nioverride is not a mod you can use in SE. If you have it, remove it. That functionality is provided by racemenu in the skee.dll.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, kabalfs said:

Good day to everyone, I have a simple question: is there a way to remove completely the "gag speech" debuff? Or whatever it is that causes the talk action to be swapped by "mmhmm" followed by a series of more "mhm"? 

Everything works great, the mod is wonderful, but the speech minigame is driving me insane... The potion removal, thu'um stun and the other effects are all interesting, but the speech debuff is a constant source of fury, so if possible, I want the speech thingy gone but the rest to stay, I simply can't stand it no longer. Also, I've searched the forums for some time but got nothing, only people having trouble with gags not working. 

 

I thank you all for any help at all. 

 

DD's speech mini game is pretty easy  and should never give you problems. DCL increases the difficulty, so look in that mod if you have it. or find a roll of paper, some ink and a quill and use that to get around not being able to talk.

[raider12140]

3 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

If you installed DD NG, then you would ask on that mod if you still have problems.

 

But basically, make sure nothing is overwriting DD NG. If something is, remove it.

 

Nioverride is not a mod you can use in SE. If you have it, remove it. That functionality is provided by racemenu in the skee.dll.

nothing is, and i dont have any mod with that name. i take off dd 5.2 and ddNG and the game runs fine. something with those 2 mods is my problem.

[kabalfs]

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

DD's speech mini game is pretty easy  and should never give you problems. DCL increases the difficulty, so look in that mod if you have it. or find a roll of paper, some ink and a quill and use that to get around not being able to talk.

The problem is not that it's easy or hard, the problem is that it's annoying, frustrating, time consuming, the time to get from one "mmhmm" to another alone is three to four times larger than the entire conversation I can have with any NPC, and that's terrible, plus her moans which are driving me insane. 

If that's the case I'll just uninstall everything, I no longer have the patience to deal with these. Thanks anyway, at least someone answered. 

[RevanCathal]

3 hours ago, raider12140 said:

nothing is, and i dont have any mod with that name. i take off dd 5.2 and ddNG and the game runs fine. something with those 2 mods is my problem.

Have you downloaded and installed the latest Anniversary Edition update to Address Library for SKSE Plug-ins on Nexus mods? And bare in mind that it just updated yesterday morning. 

[raider12140]

2 hours ago, Jgoftl said:

Have you downloaded and installed the latest Anniversary Edition update to Address Library for SKSE Plug-ins on Nexus mods? And bare in mind that it just updated yesterday morning. 

yes everything is on the current newest update.

[UsernameTaken666]

5 hours ago, kabalfs said:

The problem is not that it's easy or hard, the problem is that it's annoying, frustrating, time consuming, the time to get from one "mmhmm" to another alone is three to four times larger than the entire conversation I can have with any NPC, and that's terrible, plus her moans which are driving me insane. 

If that's the case I'll just uninstall everything, I no longer have the patience to deal with these. Thanks anyway, at least someone answered. 

Yes, please uninstall everything then. Thank you.

Edited February 16, 2024 by UsernameTaken666

[RevanCathal]

2 hours ago, raider12140 said:

yes everything is on the current newest update.

Okay. Then next, we need to figure out what mod is adding the NiOveride.dll plugin. First off, are you using MO2, Vortex or NMM as your mod manager?

[tukaka241997]

Excuse me, can anybody help me with the chastity bra in general? I am using 3ba body. Every other devices work well, but anytime I equip a chastity bra of any kind, my PC breast just jiggle out of the bra.. I tried the DD patch for 3ba, but there is no nif for the bra when I open bodyslide. Same goes with nipple piercing.

Edited February 17, 2024 by tukaka241997

[zarantha]

50 minutes ago, tukaka241997 said:

Excuse me, can anybody help me with the chastity bra in general? I am using 3ba body. Every other devices work well, but anytime I equip a chastity bra of any kind, my PC breast just jiggle out of the bra.. I tried the DD patch for 3ba, but there is no nif for the bra when I open bodyslide. Same goes with nipple piercing.

 

there is no patch for 3ba you should be using. the only thing you need are the 3ba bodyslides included in the installer when you select cbbe and 3ba. the static bra doesn't work too well. use the hdt one.

 

the nipple piercing should work unless you're using dd ng. in that case, disable dd ng, build the piercing with the dd bodyslides, then enable dd ng again. or go on the discord and get the pre release update of dd  ng.

[tukaka241997]

13 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

there is no patch for 3ba you should be using. the only thing you need are the 3ba bodyslides included in the installer when you select cbbe and 3ba. the static bra doesn't work too well. use the hdt one.

 

the nipple piercing should work unless you're using dd ng. in that case, disable dd ng, build the piercing with the dd bodyslides, then enable dd ng again. or go on the discord and get the pre release update of dd  ng.

Thank you for the reply. I forgot to say i'm using 5.1 version of the DD. I fix the problem of bras and nipple piercings by using the DD 4.3 AIO bodyslide. Does the FOMOD installer of 5.2 have an option to choose between CBBE and 3BA? Cause 5.1 does not have it. There is only CBBE and UNP.

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, tukaka241997 said:

installer of 5.2 have an option to choose between CBBE and 3BA?

No DD supports only CBBE body, 3BA body you need install separate from 3BA body conversions threads.

[zarantha]

11 hours ago, tukaka241997 said:

Thank you for the reply. I forgot to say i'm using 5.1 version of the DD. I fix the problem of bras and nipple piercings by using the DD 4.3 AIO bodyslide. Does the FOMOD installer of 5.2 have an option to choose between CBBE and 3BA? Cause 5.1 does not have it. There is only CBBE and UNP.

 

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

No DD supports only CBBE body, 3BA body you need install separate from 3BA body conversions threads.

 

DD 5.2 has both CBBE SE and 3BA as one selection, so the 3ba bodyslides are included now. This is because some outfits are common between them and this was the best way to not get too many duplicates and keep the size down. There is a patch available for ropebinders that i'll merge in at some point on the troubleshooting post.

 

Spoiler

 

 

If you use DCL as well, the 3BA bodyslides for that mod have not yet been merged into the main download. DCL 3BA bodyslides are installed separately and can also be found on the troubleshooting post.

Edited February 17, 2024 by zarantha

[raider12140]

On 2/16/2024 at 2:38 AM, Jgoftl said:

Okay. Then next, we need to figure out what mod is adding the NiOveride.dll plugin. First off, are you using MO2, Vortex or NMM as your mod manager?

vortex

[RevanCathal]

31 minutes ago, raider12140 said:

vortex

Okay, here's my suggestion: pull up the game's data folder. Scroll till you see the SKSE folder. Open it, then open the plugins folder. In the plugins folder, scroll down until you find the NiOveride.dll. Delete it. Close file explorer and click deploy via Vortex's mod page where you install and enable the mods. It should then tell which mod you just deleted it from as it asks it you want to save that change. That'll at least tell us what mod installed that plugin and I'd suggest uninstalling that mod altogether since it's something that's completely built on LE if it's adding that dll.

Edited February 17, 2024 by Jgoftl

[raider12140]

4 hours ago, Jgoftl said:

Okay, here's my suggestion: pull up the game's data folder. Scroll till you see the SKSE folder. Open it, then open the plugins folder. In the plugins folder, scroll down until you find the NiOveride.dll. Delete it. Close file explorer and click deploy via Vortex's mod page where you install and enable the mods. It should then tell which mod you just deleted it from as it asks it you want to save that change. That'll at least tell us what mod installed that plugin and I'd suggest uninstalling that mod altogether since it's something that's completely built on LE if it's adding that dll.

like i said when i get rif of DD evrything runs fine, that means it has to be DD thats giving it to me, for some reson none of the mothods dude above posted overwrites the dll for me (and yes im putting them all after in the load order)

[RevanCathal]

8 minutes ago, raider12140 said:

like i said when i get rif of DD evrything runs fine, that means it has to be DD thats giving it to me, for some reson none of the mothods dude above posted overwrites the dll for me (and yes im putting them all after in the load order)

Except that neither DD 5.2 or NG distribute that plugin. The only dll plugin they add is DeviousDevices.dll. NiOveride.dll is being added by a different mod entirely.

[raider12140]

1 hour ago, Jgoftl said:

Except that neither DD 5.2 or NG distribute that plugin. The only dll plugin they add is DeviousDevices.dll. NiOveride.dll is being added by a different mod entirely.

well the only thing i took off was dd

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, raider12140 said:

well the only thing i took off was dd

 

That doesn't mean the wrong plugin is no longer there. All you've done is remove a mod saying it can't find the right version of the plugin, not fixed the issue.

 

You were told the fix. Make sure you have the SE version of Racemenu (and all other mods), make sure you have the SE version of DD, and make sure nothing is overwriting DD. No patches, no other mods, nothing. 

 

The only other thing we can suggest you do is purge everything using vortex. Delete your steam data folder, verify your steam files, and then redeploy from vortex. if you still have a problem you have something in vortex causing the problem. In that case disable everything except DD and it's requirements and try again. and screenshot your active mod list if you still have problems. Not everything installed, just what is active.

[raider12140]

13 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

That doesn't mean the wrong plugin is no longer there. All you've done is remove a mod saying it can't find the right version of the plugin, not fixed the issue.

 

You were told the fix. Make sure you have the SE version of Racemenu (and all other mods), make sure you have the SE version of DD, and make sure nothing is overwriting DD. No patches, no other mods, nothing. 

 

The only other thing we can suggest you do is purge everything using vortex. Delete your steam data folder, verify your steam files, and then redeploy from vortex. if you still have a problem you have something in vortex causing the problem. In that case disable everything except DD and it's requirements and try again. and screenshot your active mod list if you still have problems. Not everything installed, just what is active.

i got it last night, i ended up just going into the mod files and deleting the dll manualy for dd

[furel]

I was taking a look at a patch for DD and noticed that some equipment has the 'zad_lockable' keyword. I was searching for information on the use of this keyword but found very little.

Is it a keyword used to indicate that the device, once equipped, will potentially be locked and unremovable until a certain item is used, or triggered by a script? Or is it for internal use, preventing DD or the game from removing the item despite other equipment covering it or using the same slot?

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, furel said:

I was taking a look at a patch for DD and noticed that some equipment has the 'zad_lockable' keyword. I was searching for information on the use of this keyword but found very little.

Is it a keyword used to indicate that the device, once equipped, will potentially be locked and unremovable until a certain item is used, or triggered by a script? Or is it for internal use, preventing DD or the game from removing the item despite other equipment covering it or using the same slot?

 

It's to allow the device to be removed once locked on at least. Presumably by both scripting and struggling, or generic keys. I would also assume that it's partially responsible for locking them on, or indicate that they can be locked once additional work to link the scripts is done. One example is the DCL obsidian piercings is missing that word and can't be removed except by using Leon's Master Key - it can't even be removed by script when it's supposed to be.

 

 

If you have more questions, you might want to ask on the dev thread. This is mainly SE support without diving too deep.

 

[jaxtup]

Just dropping in to say thanks to the DD team. I got massively back into Skyrim over the last few weeks and *checks Steam* oh crap I've gone from 20 hours in game to over 150. A fair part of that time was spent trying to get my gal out of restraints (and sometimes reverse pickpocketing certain annoying people into them.)

[ElderlyPapersIXGuy]

Hi! Even after using the DD NG patch and following the troubleshooting, I can launch the game but it ctds when I select a new game. Help?