Devious Devices SE

[aonduine]

Sorry to bother but i had a question, So i just came back to sky AE and i noticed it was updated and DD was one of the mods that needed an update, downloaded and installed it but the plug in isn't showing up and im getting a popup saying the plugin is disabled, can anyone help?

[FromMindoir]

So I'm having an issue that has been mentioned on page 400 of this thread but apparently has not been addressed (or I didn't find the answer, I did search on all pages between 400 and this one) with the mittens.

 

Namely, that there is an issue with successful removal. As in, when you're locked in mittens and try to unlock them, three things can happen:

* the key falls, you pick it up

* the key falls and disappears

* you insert the key and the mittens fall off

 

Problem being that when I finally get the third message, it is IMMEDIATELY overriden by another message ("You are too tired"). And they don't fall off.

 

Even if I just waited for one hour. Or slept for twelve.

 

So once you get the "can't struggle out from" and "can't cut" stages of trying to remove them without a key, you get locked in an utterly infuriating minigame of trying to unlock them but failing even when you finally (and it has a very low rate) succeed.

 

It is really, really annoying. Like, really.

 

Edit: My mistake, there is a fourth outcome I just had after, I think 90 IRL minutes of trying to get them off: the key can break. So I assume that if lock jamming was allowed in my settings, that could also happen.

 

Basically, all outcomes except "removing them" work fine.

Edited January 13, 2024 by FromMindoir

[Elsidia]

16 hours ago, FromMindoir said:

So I'm having an issue that has been mentioned on page 400

Remove old DD patches and all conflicted mods like noenchanment restrictions mod.

[FUCKING RAWWW]

On 12/7/2023 at 6:59 AM, zarantha said:

 

 

As Duncan mentioned, you can use Devious Devices NG. Or you can use the NG DLL on the troubleshooting post.

Hello there, I tried playing the game with Devious Devices NG installed and all of it's requirements ofc (I'm using vortex) on my skyrim se (ae) 1.6.1130 edition and it simply crashes (it shows a black screen and exits the game) when I press on new game, I tried removing it and devious devices 5.2 (disabling them with vortex) and the game runs with no problem. Just devious devices doesn't work either because it warns me when i first launch skse that you should exit the game bc devious devices dll is not compatible, so I basically have no idea what to do.

[Failiks1]

How can I solve the problem with leg restraints? Hoble dresses does not slow down and does not have animations, at the same time, "rope body restrain" has a bunny hop animation, but I chose animations of small steps. I tried to find incompatibilities between mods or reinstall DD, but it didn’t help.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, FUCKING RAWWW said:

Hello there, I tried playing the game with Devious Devices NG installed and all of it's requirements ofc (I'm using vortex) on my skyrim se (ae) 1.6.1130 edition and it simply crashes (it shows a black screen and exits the game) when I press on new game, I tried removing it and devious devices 5.2 (disabling them with vortex) and the game runs with no problem. Just devious devices doesn't work either because it warns me when i first launch skse that you should exit the game bc devious devices dll is not compatible, so I basically have no idea what to do.

 

Use the NG version of consoleutils as well. The normal version of that mod is causing CTDs when used with other mods like DD. 

 

 

[zarantha]

On 1/13/2024 at 2:24 PM, aonduine said:

Sorry to bother but i had a question, So i just came back to sky AE and i noticed it was updated and DD was one of the mods that needed an update, downloaded and installed it but the plug in isn't showing up and im getting a popup saying the plugin is disabled, can anyone help?

 

Only three posts up was the answer. And two posts up was your same question, with one post up providing the answer again. Learn to read people....

 

 

 

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, Failiks1 said:

How can I solve the problem with leg restraints? Hoble dresses does not slow down and does not have animations, at the same time, "rope body restrain" has a bunny hop animation, but I chose animations of small steps. I tried to find incompatibilities between mods or reinstall DD, but it didn’t help.

 

Which hobble dress are you wearing? one of them is not restrictive, and the other is. Sounds like you aren't wearing the restrictive one.

Make sure nothing except DD NG is overwriting DD. If you have DD NG (it's not required, but is recommended) then make sure you choose the same options for animations. 

Make sure you don't have old patches for DD overwriting DD. 

[SkyAddiction]

On 12/24/2023 at 2:49 PM, zarantha said:

For now, there's a download to use the old XMLs on the troubleshooting post.

 

For the future, install DD NG on top of DD. DD NG will have updates to the SMP chains to make them work better. Or join the DD NG discord to try them out sooner.

 

Coming back to this, I tried equipping both devices on a new game with DD NG installed, and they exhibit the same behavior as before. Additionally, I don't think their model has chains, and I don't think SMP chains are an issue at all, at least not for my system. The infamous ankle chains with the wonky links flying everywhere don't impact my frame rate at all. It's visually annoying as the links spaghetti about everywhere, but I don't get any FPS drops. I've no idea what's happening with the handcuff mesh.

[Failiks1]

13 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Which hobble dress are you wearing? one of them is not restrictive, and the other is. Sounds like you aren't wearing the restrictive one.

Make sure nothing except DD NG is overwriting DD. If you have DD NG (it's not required, but is recommended) then make sure you choose the same options for animations. 

Make sure you don't have old patches for DD overwriting DD. 

I used the one that contains the script, I also checked it on devices from DDE and it’s the same there.

I don't use DD NG, I use the old "DD to dar patch" so that hand movements do not go out of the armblinder when moving or standing in combat mode, and  "mco patch for DD for attack". When I tried to install the new  "fomod DD to dar" then it didn't work. I also tried changing dar to oar and using "DD to oar fomod", but it still didn’t work. And then I noticed a problem with the hobble dress and ropes, but did not find a way to solve the problem.

[zarantha]

22 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

Coming back to this, I tried equipping both devices on a new game with DD NG installed, and they exhibit the same behavior as before. Additionally, I don't think their model has chains, and I don't think SMP chains are an issue at all, at least not for my system. The infamous ankle chains with the wonky links flying everywhere don't impact my frame rate at all. It's visually annoying as the links spaghetti about everywhere, but I don't get any FPS drops. I've no idea what's happening with the handcuff mesh.

 

Just keep watching for updates. They are being worked on a few at a time. Until a proper fix is done the only other thing that can be done is delete the chain from the nif or the xml. Ankle chains are the only thing that i was able to get mostly working, and that requires quitting skyrim after they're equipped and relaunching skyrim. 

[SkyAddiction]

7 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Just keep watching for updates. They are being worked on a few at a time. Until a proper fix is done the only other thing that can be done is delete the chain from the nif or the xml. Ankle chains are the only thing that i was able to get mostly working, and that requires quitting skyrim after they're equipped and relaunching skyrim. 

 

Oh, don't misunderstand - it's not a big deal to me. I just reported it as a bug, and since you suggested DD NG as a possible fix, I reported that it didn't work. It'll be fixed whenever and that's fine. 

[DuskWanderer]

Hello! Are there any plans on adding the 3BA Anal Height/Back adjustment sliders to plugs? As of now none of them are configured in bodyslide which causes misalignment on most body presets.

[zarantha]

12 hours ago, Failiks1 said:

I used the one that contains the script, I also checked it on devices from DDE and it’s the same there.

I don't use DD NG, I use the old "DD to dar patch" so that hand movements do not go out of the armblinder when moving or standing in combat mode, and  "mco patch for DD for attack". When I tried to install the new  "fomod DD to dar" then it didn't work. I also tried changing dar to oar and using "DD to oar fomod", but it still didn’t work. And then I noticed a problem with the hobble dress and ropes, but did not find a way to solve the problem.

 

DD NG has an improved version of the standalone DAR and OAR patches and uses OAR. I don't know if the DAR patch works with the MCO patch - I thought that was for DD NG only. 

Your best bet is to remove all patches and test again without them if you don't want to go to DD NG. 

 

"the one that contains the script" doesn't mean much to me. Both have scripts attached and only one has the restricted walk. The walk is enforced by keyword, not script.

Are you using the ones that show up in your inventory as "Hobble Dress (Extreme)"? (any variant)

[zarantha]

8 minutes ago, DuskWanderer said:

Hello! Are there any plans on adding the 3BA Anal Height/Back adjustment sliders to plugs? As of now none of them are configured in bodyslide which causes misalignment on most body presets.

 

Nope. Not from me anyway. I am not looking at that area closely enough to care, and it's not noticeable from a normal third person perspective.  

 

Audhol on DD NG has added SMP to the inflatable plugs and might be willing to add that particular feature if he hasn't already. You could check over there or on DD NG's discord.

[Archon459]

On 12/27/2023 at 3:06 PM, zarantha said:

 

 

"Devious Devices [SE][AE][VR] 5.2" will be your base install. There is no new version of this download, it is the latest. 

Yes, you pick *any* DLL - none of the choices  in the installer will work out of the box with 1.6.1130. 1.6.640 is as good as any other choice.

 

Then to fix the DLL issue with 1.6.1130 you will do ONE of these options (ALL of which existed prior to 1.6.1130, so none are 'new'. Thus "no new files"):

1. Install Devious Devices NG. It will overwrite DD, including DD's DLL. It's DLL works with all versions of the game.

2. Go to the troubleshooting post. Pick one of the alternate DLLs under the DD 5.2 spoiler. You will install that as a separate mod overwriting DD, or simply swap out the DLLs.

3. Go to the troubleshooting post. Install the script fix for the script errors under the DD 5.2 spoiler. This removes the need for the DLL entirely. Delete or hide it from DD's files.

 

Edit: If you're still crashing, then switch your ConsoleUtils to the NG version. The original mod is causing CTDs when used with various mods, including DD.

I'm definitely going to do this, but how the hell did you figure this out...?

[DuskWanderer]

12 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Nope. Not from me anyway. I am not looking at that area closely enough to care, and it's not noticeable from a normal third person perspective.  

 

Audhol on DD NG has added SMP to the inflatable plugs and might be willing to add that particular feature if he hasn't already. You could check over there or on DD NG's discord.

Gotcha. It's definitely more noticeable when using DW's 3BA with UBE Anus, although I understand why it's not a priority. I'll forward it to them!

[Failiks1]

13 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

DD NG has an improved version of the standalone DAR and OAR patches and uses OAR. I don't know if the DAR patch works with the MCO patch - I thought that was for DD NG only. 

Your best bet is to remove all patches and test again without them if you don't want to go to DD NG. 

 

"the one that contains the script" doesn't mean much to me. Both have scripts attached and only one has the restricted walk. The walk is enforced by keyword, not script.

Are you using the ones that show up in your inventory as "Hobble Dress (Extreme)"? (any variant)

Sorry, I realized I used the wrong hobble. I changed the patches to DD NG and everything works. Thanks.

[spookhuis]

Could somebody please help me with this issue. I've downloaded the latest version of SKSE and the latest version of Devious devices.
For some reason i'm getting this error when i'm trying to start the game with Devious devices enabled.
 

[chaimhewast]

1 hour ago, spookhuis said:

Could somebody please help me with this issue. I've downloaded the latest version of SKSE and the latest version of Devious devices.

As has been mentioned repeatedly over the past few pages, DD SE is not updated for 1.6.1130. Your options are to install DD NG or roll back your version of Skyrim.

[zarantha]

18 hours ago, keitel66 said:

I'm definitely going to do this, but how the hell did you figure this out...?

 

The consoleutil thing? 

 

Back when 1130 released, some of us updated to see what was and wasn't broke. 

Someone I talked with on discord said they couldn't get DD NG working, yet I had DD NG working but not some other mod we both used.

Looking at our crash logs, we both had consoleutils listed in the stack. At the time, neither consoleutils had been updated for 1.6.1130.

Disabled consoleutils and the crashes went away for both of us. Looked at both consoleutils mod comments and saw we weren't the only ones crashing.

Then later consoleutils ng updated and everything was cool then.

 

 

The rest was just noticing the comments that DD NG was working, and knowing that the other DLLs I linked on the troubleshooting post were 'ng' type DLLs by the same people who do DD NG, so they should work since DD NG worked. They've just been improving the same projects, the ones have linked are prototypes of DD NG's DLL. 

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, spookhuis said:

Could somebody please help me with this issue. I've downloaded the latest version of SKSE and the latest version of Devious devices.
For some reason i'm getting this error when i'm trying to start the game with Devious devices enabled.
 

 

The solution is already linked on this page, but here it is yet again. I really wish people would at least read the page they're on.

 

 

[ebbluminous]

16 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

The solution is already linked on this page, but here it is yet again. I really wish people would at least read the page they're on.

 

 

Unfortunately, that requires people applying minimum effort, something in short supply these days.

 

Instead, people should be more like Deadpool:

[Archon459]

2 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

Unfortunately, that requires people applying minimum effort, something in short supply these days.

 

Instead, people should be more like Deadpool:

This thread is 400+ pages...

[CD-Alyx]

Over night I was belted by Jack. My character is now wearing 2 belts at the same time, but I don't get a pop up when I try to remove Jack's belt. I'm wondering if this is normal, or if I should reload an older save.