Devious Devices SE

[DrStoney]

On 9/12/2021 at 10:50 PM, zarantha said:

 

I'm working on this now, while I'm correlating the outfit updates that will be added in 5.2 along with the rename/consolidation that's being done. Armbinders and Elbowbinders are taken care of, and for some outfits zaps have been added to some of the more problematic outfits or outfits with multiple variants (to reduce space used).

I apologize if I sound like an impatient asshole for asking this, but is there any sort of time estimate on that? I planned to start a new playthrough soon and just want to know if I should wait for the update or just use the already made 4.3 Conversions.

[LorenRallings]

Thank you for explaining. That helped  TY.

[zarantha]

58 minutes ago, DrStoney said:

I apologize if I sound like an impatient asshole for asking this, but is there any sort of time estimate on that? I planned to start a new playthrough soon and just want to know if I should wait for the update or just use the already made 4.3 Conversions.

 

The ETA is what kimy mentioned as the ETA + time for the actual conversion. If I have everything ready when it releases, it will be done very quickly (anywhere from 1 day to a week later). If kimy releases before I finish the bodyslides, the conversion will be delayed. Last I heard, DD 5.2 was going to be late summer to fall. That is, of course, subject to change.

 

The good news is that since it's a minor upgrade, you should not need a new game and can do an in place upgrade. So you can start now with the 4.3 3BA conversions and upgrade when it comes out.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, CNeu20 said:

I hate to be that guy, but is straightjackets not allowing sexlab animations intentional or a bug?

 

Depends on the straitjackets. Which ones are you using? With or without a legbinder?
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/157168-devious-devices-le-51-2021-01-19/?do=findComment&comment=3426123

 

 

From the release notes:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/157168-devious-devices-le-51-2021-01-19/?do=findComment&comment=3260383

 

- Fixed: Straitjackets that would realistically allow vaginal/anal intercourse now do so.

[DrStoney]

20 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

The ETA is what kimy mentioned as the ETA + time for the actual conversion. If I have everything ready when it releases, it will be done very quickly (anywhere from 1 day to a week later). If kimy releases before I finish the bodyslides, the conversion will be delayed. Last I heard, DD 5.2 was going to be late summer to fall. That is, of course, subject to change.

 

The good news is that since it's a minor upgrade, you should not need a new game and can do an in place upgrade. So you can start now with the 4.3 3BA conversions and upgrade when it comes out.

Sounds good, thank you very much!

[Elsidia]

15 minutes ago, aslanlar260 said:

where can I find the keys

If you have only DD, you can craft those. Recipes for craft are hidden into Mage guild. Good luck to find it)

 

[natybs]

14 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Install face discoloration fix.

 

For the two girls, there are likely no matching animations after filtering for yokes and whatever your sex is (i'm assuming female). if you can replicate the issue with papyrus logging enabled, we can check the log.

thank you. im assuming the restraints that I put on any of the bars "employees? like the free girls or the game master from the dice game will be removed when the cell reset? I think the "free" prostitute girls still have on the yokes they had before. but sex is now working with them haha so that's good. but the restraints stay on I guess like there supposed too im just wondering if they will reset eventually after enough time away from the whip and chain inn. 

 

oh yeah and the Tamera woman in the inn who places you in the restraint dress for a reward as a game (I think its called extreme restrain dress or something) the dress seams to include a ballgag but the gag doesn't make my character open her mouth, as if I didn't have mfg fix, but all other gags work. since the gag doesn't show up in inventory I assume its part of the dress restraint.

Edited September 15, 2021 by natybs

[Jack005]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

If you downloaded the full 5.1 installer from the DD download page you do not need the delta upgrade. That is for people who are on 5.0 and don't want to download the full archive again.

 

Make sure you don't have any patches for DD 4.3 or 5.0 installed. Old patches will also break things, including locks. Make sure nothing is overwriting DD. The only exceptions is Zaz has 3 file that conflict. Those are textures and it doesn't matter if zaz or dd overwrites since those are the same files.

The only patch I have is the gamepad CTD fix, but I'm afraid that if I take that one I start having CTD again

Edit: I did the clean save, but didn't work, I going to try taking devous followers and the "gamepad CTD fix"

Edited September 15, 2021 by Jack005
Forgot to mention

[Mamango]

15 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Read the troubleshooting post and install mfg fix...

 

 

Thanks!

Edited September 15, 2021 by Mamango

[natybs]

does anyone know what's up with the "gap" between the legs and feet on my body? it only is there when have on the high heel shoes from the devious devices mods it is not there when I wear base game shoes, armors, or other mudded items like socks and shoes.  its kind of hard to see in the picture look at my legs and its there lol. and I did run bodyslide again and made sure everything was set to my body preset so idk.

[YojimboRatchet]

Surprised that 5.1 still contains some of the outfit bugs / anomalies from earlier versions. I thought 5.1 fixed these issues.

 

1. Some hoods have the invisible neck seams. well, more like lower neck and collarbone area are invisible. easily rectified once a collar is worn, in most cases. the Iron collars look kinda funny with the hood the missing neck parts, but thicker collars work well enough as a band-aid solution. I believe only the rubber hoods incur this effect. not seen it with the balloon hood yet. still testing this out though.

 

2. Some boots show the lower leg / upper ankles as missing. not necessarily the calves as half of the the leg calf is visible. and it's only on some boots / boot colors. Like the slave boots and the ring boots are fine. but almost all the catsuit ballet boots (ankle versions) cause this effect.

 

3. The restrictive Ballet Boots, go from being Thigh boots to Knee boots, (the thigh area just disappears) when worn with certain ankle chains. Still trying to test to see which ones cause this effect. not a game breaker obviously, as Knee boots look really good too lol.

 

4. I am seeing some minor clipping on the lower thigh, and upper Thigh. (very minor though), for the Restrictive Ballet Boots. Keep forgetting to take pics for it though LOL.

 

Also trying to figure out why i cannot wear any armor on the body slot when i have a chastity belt or bra on, or nipple piercings. even though i have removed their exclusion in the device MCM menu for the Body. This didn't happen in 4.3 with the same setting and the same outfit i used (DX Celes Mercy). So I's like to know what's going on and how to fix this, or if this is an unintended bug.

 

I do also have a minor suggestion for Kimy, on the next update. the events MCM menu, none of the events have any description at all as to what they are or what triggers them (if they come from other mods installed as well, as i have seen some options appear when some mods are added, like MME.) having a bit of a description for each event would help in determining slider values.

 

EDIT: sorry, meant to specify that I am using 3BBB lol

Edited September 15, 2021 by YojimboRatchet

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, natybs said:

thank you. im assuming the restraints that I put on any of the bars "employees? like the free girls or the game master from the dice game will be removed when the cell reset? I think the "free" prostitute girls still have on the yokes they had before. but sex is now working with them haha so that's good. but the restraints stay on I guess like there supposed too im just wondering if they will reset eventually after enough time away from the whip and chain inn. 

 

oh yeah and the Tamera woman in the inn who places you in the restraint dress for a reward as a game (I think its called extreme restrain dress or something) the dress seams to include a ballgag but the gag doesn't make my character open her mouth, as if I didn't have mfg fix, but all other gags work. since the gag doesn't show up in inventory I assume its part of the dress restraint.

 

Depends on if the NPC inventory gets reset. i don't think it does, but I never tried checking. If you want to remove them, you'll need to pickpocket them or remove it through dialog.

 

The gag shouldn't be any different than the other gags. Maybe try 'mfg reset' in the console? I don't recall this not working for me, but it's been a while.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, Jack005 said:

The only patch I have is the gamepad CTD fix, but I'm afraid that if I take that one I start having CTD again

Edit: I did the clean save, but didn't work, I going to try taking devous followers and the "gamepad CTD fix"

 

I'd expect the CTD fix for gamepad should be fine. I'm talking about patches specifically for DD, or patches for other mods because of DD. Things that might overwrite DD's scripts with older versions of the DD scripts.

 

Otherwise, looking for random incompatible mods is difficult. It's either cut your mod list in half and see which half has the issue, and continue cutting that in half until you find the mod, or strip it all out, start a new game, console in (or use additem menu mod) the device you're having a problem with removing and start adding mods one at a time until you fine the one breaking device locks.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, natybs said:

does anyone know what's up with the "gap" between the legs and feet on my body? it only is there when  have on the high heel shoes from the devious devices mods it is not there when I wear base game shoes, armors, or other mudded items like socks and shoes.  its kind of hard to see in the picture look at my legs and its there lol. and I did run bodyslide again and made sure everything was set to my body preset so idk.

 

The seam is there because the feet in the shoes are LE CBBE and the body is SE CBBE. Running bodyslide won't fix that seam issue. I've only recently found out how to convert the feet when they aren't flat, so that is on my plans to fix for the next version.

 

I figured a seam was better than making a mess of the foot, which is what my previous attempts did.

Edited September 15, 2021 by zarantha

[Kimy]

13 hours ago, zarantha said:

The good news is that since it's a minor upgrade, you should not need a new game and can do an in place upgrade. So you can start now with the 4.3 3BA conversions and upgrade when it comes out.

 

I can confirm that. I cannot think of any reason why 5.2 should need a new game. It should be safe to start a new game now and update to 5.2 when it's out.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said:

Surprised that 5.1 still contains some of the outfit bugs / anomalies from earlier versions. I thought 5.1 fixed these issues.

 

1. Some hoods have the invisible neck seams. well, more like lower neck and collarbone area are invisible. easily rectified once a collar is worn, in most cases. the Iron collars look kinda funny with the hood the missing neck parts, but thicker collars work well enough as a band-aid solution. I believe only the rubber hoods incur this effect. not seen it with the balloon hood yet. still testing this out though.

 

2. Some boots show the lower leg / upper ankles as missing. not necessarily the calves as half of the the leg calf is visible. and it's only on some boots / boot colors. Like the slave boots and the ring boots are fine. but almost all the catsuit ballet boots (ankle versions) cause this effect.

 

3. The restrictive Ballet Boots, go from being Thigh boots to Knee boots, (the thigh area just disappears) when worn with certain ankle chains. Still trying to test to see which ones cause this effect. not a game breaker obviously, as Knee boots look really good too lol.

 

4. I am seeing some minor clipping on the lower thigh, and upper Thigh. (very minor though), for the Restrictive Ballet Boots. Keep forgetting to take pics for it though LOL.

 

Also trying to figure out why i cannot wear any armor on the body slot when i have a chastity belt or bra on, or nipple piercings. even though i have removed their exclusion in the device MCM menu for the Body. This didn't happen in 4.3 with the same setting and the same outfit i used (DX Celes Mercy). So I's like to know what's going on and how to fix this, or if this is an unintended bug.

 

I do also have a minor suggestion for Kimy, on the next update. the events MCM menu, none of the events have any description at all as to what they are or what triggers them (if they come from other mods installed as well, as i have seen some options appear when some mods are added, like MME.) having a bit of a description for each event would help in determining slider values.

 

EDIT: sorry, meant to specify that I am using 3BBB lol

 

Guess what? I'm not perfect lol. I've only done the bodyslide conversion. For things that didn't have bodyslides, I've mostly left them alone. Chains were the only exception.

 

1. I will check the hoods. If you can get a list of devices that will help.

 

2. This is a priority issue. When two outfits both occupy the same slot, like a catsuit and long boot both occupy the calves slot, the outfit priority determines which will win. Some changes are being done on the LE side for this. I don't have plans to go through every combination of outfits and checking which works or not, this should remain the same as what LE has and be fixed there. You can report specific combos if you like, although this might be better off waiting for 5.2 to see if that fixes the majority of the priority issues for you.

 

3. This is also a priority issue. I believe this was brought up and will be fixed in 5.2.

 

4. Which bodyslides are you using? If it's 3BA, the the 3BBB body you're using is likely v2, and those bodyslides are for v1. There could be minor changes to the bone weighting between versions, or maybe adding the thigh weights was forgotten. Should be fixed when I finish the 3BA conversion I'm working on for 5.2.

 

If it's a modular armor the 'body' armor may not be in the body slot. Look at the outfit you can't wear in outfit studio, there's a partitions tab there. If the armor is in multiple sections in outfit studio, you'll need to check the partitions for each section. DD bodyslot usage is here: https://github.com/DeviousDevices/Docs/wiki/Slot-Usage-Reference

 

If the outfit is not actually conflicting with the slots referenced there, then I'll need exact names in game names of the devices to check further. The esps also contain partition information in the AA objects, and if extra partitions were added to an item it may be in the esp. This also goes for the outfit you're trying to wear - it might occupy more slots than what is in the nif.

[opalyope]

Bonjour, est-il possible de faire fonctionner Devious Device sur Skyrim Edition Spéciale ?

 

Si oui, pouvez vous me dire comment faire ?

[zarantha]

7 minutes ago, opalyope said:

Bonjour, est-il possible de faire fonctionner Devious Device sur Skyrim Edition Spéciale ?

 

Si oui, pouvez vous me dire comment faire ?

 

This thread is for the special edition version.

Go to the first post on page 1 and click "View File". On the download page click "Download this File".

[YojimboRatchet]

32 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Guess what? I'm not perfect lol. I've only done the bodyslide conversion. For things that didn't have bodyslides, I've mostly left them alone. Chains were the only exception.

 

1. I will check the hoods. If you can get a list of devices that will help.

 

2. This is a priority issue. When two outfits both occupy the same slot, like a catsuit and long boot both occupy the calves slot, the outfit priority determines which will win. Some changes are being done on the LE side for this. I don't have plans to go through every combination of outfits and checking which works or not, this should remain the same as what LE has and be fixed there. You can report specific combos if you like, although this might be better off waiting for 5.2 to see if that fixes the majority of the priority issues for you.

 

3. This is also a priority issue. I believe this was brought up and will be fixed in 5.2.

 

4. Which bodyslides are you using? If it's 3BA, the the 3BBB body you're using is likely v2, and those bodyslides are for v1. There could be minor changes to the bone weighting between versions, or maybe adding the thigh weights was forgotten. Should be fixed when I finish the 3BA conversion I'm working on for 5.2.

 

If it's a modular armor the 'body' armor may not be in the body slot. Look at the outfit you can't wear in outfit studio, there's a partitions tab there. If the armor is in multiple sections in outfit studio, you'll need to check the partitions for each section. DD bodyslot usage is here: https://github.com/DeviousDevices/Docs/wiki/Slot-Usage-Reference

 

If the outfit is not actually conflicting with the slots referenced there, then I'll need exact names in game names of the devices to check further. The esps also contain partition information in the AA objects, and if extra partitions were added to an item it may be in the esp. This also goes for the outfit you're trying to wear - it might occupy more slots than what is in the nif.

 

LOL, i wasn't trying to blame you and anyone.

 

I was just passing on things I noticed that also existed on the older version, as I knew you and Kimy were hard at work getting things ready and done for 5.2. Just wanted to be helpful

 

As for 1 & 2, I will do a bit more testing with combinations to identify the exact combinations / items which produce those effects. Hopefully I can have this done within the next day or two. I will send the results in PM when I have them.

 

Regarding #3.. heh, maybe the better solution here would be for Kimy to work some magic and create some "knee boots", as they really do look good when it happens ?

 

the bodyslide files I am using are the current versions. The clippings are not major though, just an observation as I know there are some who like things to be "perfect". me, I don't really care, boots are boots

 

I'll take a look at the DX outfit and let you know what's what.

 

 

[YojimboRatchet]

14 minutes ago, zarantha said:

25 minutes ago, opalyope said:

Bonjour, est-il possible de faire fonctionner Devious Device sur Skyrim Edition Spéciale ?

 

Si oui, pouvez vous me dire comment faire ?

 

This thread is for the special edition version.

Go to the first post on page 1 and click "View File". On the download page click "Download this File".

 

Et, SVP, Il faut aussi lire the deuxieme "post" au debut. Bonne chance !

[SuckItAndSTFU]

I just got back into playing/Modding Skyrim SE. I am trying to install some mods and one of them says it requires Devious Equipment. (Naked Defeated SE). I am trying to install the mods an get it running. I am not sure I am installing the latest versions of DD.

 

In the past I had no problem getting Devious Equimpemt, Assests, Expansion, and Intergration installed and running but that was on LE version. Can some one help me find the files I need to work correctly with the latest  version of SE.

 

Also I can not seem to find the tutorial I used to make it work with Bodyslide, I am sure I am going to run into the invisible equipment problem once I get DD installed.

 

Thanks in advance. 

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, SuckItAndSTFU said:

I just got back into playing/Modding Skyrim SE. I am trying to install some mods and one of them says it requires Devious Equipment. (Naked Defeated SE). I am trying to install the mods an get it running. I am not sure I am installing the latest versions of DD.

 

In the past I had no problem getting Devious Equimpemt, Assests, Expansion, and Intergration installed and running but that was on LE version. Can some one help me find the files I need to work correctly with the latest  version of SE.

 

Also I can not seem to find the tutorial I used to make it work with Bodyslide, I am sure I am going to run into the invisible equipment problem once I get DD installed.

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

So, there is Devious Devices (this mod) that contains DDa (assets), DDi (integration), DDx (expansion), and DDc (contraptions) all in one installer. You can download this from the download page linked on the first post of this thread.

 

There is also a Devious Devices Equip, which is what I think you mean.  That is a separate mod. Both SE and LE downloads are on the same page, make sure you grab the right ones, and read the description for DDe's requirements. If you need more help with DDe, you should ask on that thread.

 

There should be no issues with running them together, unless you're using NMM. NMM seems to think they are the same mods and they are not. If you are using NMM, you must click the No/Continue the install anyway option (I don't know the exact wording, just that there's an option to continue without updating the other mod). You don't want the update option. Or use MO2 or Vortex.

 

I've got a few basic bodyslide steps on the troubleshooting post that should be enough to get you going. Otherwise, google for videos for your mod manager and bodyslide.

Make sure you read through the 5.1 section if you are running into issues.

 

[Jack005]

14 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I'd expect the CTD fix for gamepad should be fine. I'm talking about patches specifically for DD, or patches for other mods because of DD. Things that might overwrite DD's scripts with older versions of the DD scripts.

 

Otherwise, looking for random incompatible mods is difficult. It's either cut your mod list in half and see which half has the issue, and continue cutting that in half until you find the mod, or strip it all out, start a new game, console in (or use additem menu mod) the device you're having a problem with removing and start adding mods one at a time until you fine the one breaking device locks.

It was the CTD fix for gamepad, anyway thanks for the help and the fast responses, I suppose they add that fix on the 5.1 and somehow the fix it was conflictin with it

[natybs]

so now the whip and chain inn wont load any of the furniture on the walls it just has the girls standing there. do I need a memory patch or something I remember enb boost from oldrim is there something like this for skyrim se? or is this another problem? 

 

I have waited for 10 minutes for this stuff to load I know sometimes it takes a while but this seams broken. 

[shar181]

I'm having an issue with the rope harnesses. Specifically, I can't seem to make body physics (3BA) work with them. I went into BodySlide and tried to rebuild them, but it didn't have any effect ingame. x.x It's frustrating, because I love how the rope bondage stuff looks!