Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

16 minutes ago, natybs said:

how do i cheack whats overriding what on vortex? ic an look ti up but i do have the old "prisoners chains fix" patch enable is that soemthign not to sue anymore> im pritty sure it was for version 4.3 of dd

i also never made a bashed patch i guess i forgot it might help.

wyre bash also says the all the devious device mods have a warning old header versions found not sure what that means 

 

I don't really use vortex much. There should be a lighting bolt though to the right of the mod. click on that and it should bring up all the conflicts.

 

The wrye bash warning can be ignored. it means that the esp/esm is still form 43 but that will not prevent the mod from working. i've had more trouble when resaving plugins than just leaving them be.

 

prisoner chains fix isn't needed but won't hurt as long as it only overwrites the prisoner chains nif. a version of that fix is included when you batch build the outfits as the nohdt version of the prisoner chains.

[natybs]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

I don't really use vortex much. There should be a lighting bolt though to the right of the mod. click on that and it should bring up all the conflicts.

 

The wrye bash warning can be ignored. it means that the esp/esm is still form 43 but that will not prevent the mod from working. i've had more trouble when resaving plugins than just leaving them be.

 

prisoner chains fix isn't needed but won't hurt as long as it only overwrites the prisoner chains nif. a version of that fix is included when you batch build the outfits as the nohdt version of the prisoner chains.

ok good to know. yeah the save is def borked cuz reinstall didnt help but idk why it happened after chloe its odd....im going to try not going in and just play normally untill im sent there and see what happens. either way, the inn s till "works" just only 1 mini game is broken so its not a high deal but i don't ant to play onj broken save since it can lead to lots more problems. i probably am struggling to load the inn cell, it just get more and more overwhelmed untill its just cant load the animations for the bound girls on the furniture, but it wills till work if i use the furniture. but yeah it might help if other people have this issue to make the inn 2 zones or something. like the game room would be a new load in area. 

 

would it be worth it to try clean in dd in quick auto clean or in xedit?

 

Edited September 18, 2021 by natybs

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

've seen nothing that indicates putting the page file on SSD is wrong.

I got in my own life:

Windows 7. RAM 4 gB Game: Conan Exiles. Modded and need many memory to load and using HDD memory page load is so slow.

I put memory file page on my system SSD (1TB  Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 inch 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal SSD) When Conan loads a location it's immediately CTD.

Then i found old SSD Chinese disk - memory page on that disk not CTD.

Also SSD disks have limited cycles to write in disk. On system Windows 7 is strongly recommend turn of all caches for SDD off.  Windows 10 recognizes a SSD seems it do in own way.

 

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

So it will use the ram, but it will also use the page file for memory too

i do the some simple test for it: put page file the same size on disk d, what is skyrim se disk. i don't why need the same disk, because windows use any file page from any disk. In Whip and Chain inn memory use left old: about 3,5 Gb RAM and devices still not loaded. I have no clue if it works, also Skyrim not CTD when load a inn.

 

[Elsidia]

10 hours ago, natybs said:

so can i sue the regular enb boost for regular skyrim on special edition? i couldn't fine a version unique to special edition.

What you mean about enbboost?

If ENB then there is SE version: http://enbdev.com/download_mod_tesskyrimse.htm

[natybs]

10 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

I got in my own life:

Windows 7. RAM 4 gB Game: Conan Exiles. Modded and need many memory to load and using HDD memory page load is so slow.

I put memory file page on my system SSD (1TB  Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 inch 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal SSD) When Conan loads a location it's immediately CTD.

Then i found old SSD Chinese disk - memory page on that disk not CTD.

Also SSD disks have limited cycles to write in disk. On system Windows 7 is strongly recommend turn of all caches for SDD off.  Windows 10 recognizes a SSD seems it do in own way.

 

i do the some simple test for it: put page file the same size on disk d, what is skyrim se disk. i don't why need the same disk, because windows use any file page from any disk. In Whip and Chain inn memory use left old: about 3,5 Gb RAM and devices still not loaded. I have no clue if it works, also Skyrim not CTD when load a inn.

 

so if i freed up harddrive space i could make the file larger and get more memory?

i want to try and find ways of making it be able to load everything in there.

Edited September 18, 2021 by natybs

[natybs]

5 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

What you mean about enbboost?

If ENB then there is SE version: http://enbdev.com/download_mod_tesskyrimse.htm

so enb boosts memory? i thought it just let you install nice graphic shaders and stuff. i thought enboost was the memory boost?

i forget if it can be instaleld via mod manager but i think it has to be done manually.

Edited September 18, 2021 by natybs

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, natybs said:

1 mini game is broken

What minigame is broken?

About your situation: Load a skyrim save before you enter a Whip and Chain and check papyrus log: if there still is device generated errors, that means when you last time enter in inn, skyrim disable those devices and  now generate those errors. To fix it you need manually through console enable all those devices and disable enable NPC what is put into devices. Then exit from inn and return back - devices must loaded and npc locked into it. I spend a few fours RL to do it and it works. But after some playing time when i return those devices now not loaded. That means it's very unsuccessful work. Maybe i spend some time more and made a bat file what will do work for it.

And there is question for all modders: maybe you know how to call variable for bat file. need syntax's :

open a console bat "fixwhipandchaininn 10" where 10 is your DCL hex mod load order.

Edited September 18, 2021 by Elsidia

[Elsidia]

Maybe in bethini are some variables what need to increase device count in one location to successful load all?

[natybs]

19 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

What minigame is broken?

About your situation: Load a skyrim save before you enter a Whip and Chain and check papyrus log: if there still is device generated errors, that means when you last time enter in inn, skyrim disable those devices and  now generate those errors. To fix it you need manually through console enable all those devices and disable enable NPC what is put into devices. Then exit from inn and return back - devices must loaded and npc locked into it. I spend a few fours RL to do it and it works. But after some playing time when i return those devices now not loaded. That means it's very unsuccessful work. Maybe i spend some time more and made a bat file what will do work for it.

And there is question for all modders: maybe you know how to call variable for bat file. need syntax's :

open a console bat "fixwhipandchaininn 10" where 10 is your DCL hex mod load order.

the best skyrim lover one, since the pillory dont load in it will never start. here is a papyrus log from when everything loaded in correctly, seams like in the inn from non broken save. 

Papyrus.0.log

 

 

 

and here is papyrus log from the "safe" save

 

 

there are several warning and errors but not the same ones and a lot less of them.  some of them sound like stuff for quests I haven't started yet or that may have been disable in the current version of dd and other dd mods.

Papyrus.0.log

Edited September 18, 2021 by natybs

[Elsidia]

22 minutes ago, natybs said:

so if i freed up harddrive space i could make the file larger and get more memory?

If you have a low memory then yes. Also for me it's not help to load Inn devices.

I have 16 gB RAM, skyrim use 3,5 gB i have 51% free memory, put page file 30 gb size. and furniture's in inn not loaded. Do conclusion in own way. If you when play skyrim free memory is less that 5%, it will make a sense.

 

Second quest: i have no clue what enb does, i don't use it. And yes it's make textures look better. That's all what i know about ENB. Also it's speed up fps. (faster frame rate for graphics) Also if you are expert in that you can try add ray tracing in Skyrim. But for that uses other program not ENB.

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, natybs said:

the best skyrim lover one,

With that i can help:

For each NPC you need enter a console and do those lines. Not do lines with --- it's just mark 3 NPC's on 10 marked as green you need put into your DCL hex load order. If you use vortex you can find it plugins section (note use hex, not decimal).

or you can find load order in loot.

Console part:

Spoiler

--- Belinda ---
prid 10118ddf
disable
prid 10118dd6
enable
prid 10118ddf
enable
--- Lara ---
prid 10118de4
disable
prid 10118dd7
enable
--- Vivianne ---
prid 10118de6
disable
prid 10118dd8
enable
prid 10118de6
enable

 

If all works fine it will reassign your pillory and put NPC into. Then you can start a game.

With bat file all thing are awful, not work.

But i made it too. Why. If after first time some of device not loaded, then you can run this file and reassign. It works only if first you do it through console.

To use this file you need open it in notepad, select edit -> replace. In first put in /10/

In second put in your DCL hex load order and press replace all.

Then  put this file into skyrim main folder (not data folder)

Then open a console and type

bat fixminigame

Then exit a console and NPC will realign in pillory.

 

Note: But only if in first time after you do it in console. After exit, or load a save bat file not work.

 

Good luck!

 

Note: to start sex game you need wait a long time and few times enter in console or sex will freeze. It's sexlab bug. I wrote in this thread but not got answer.

 

UPD: I forgot put file in. Also after edit a file you need save as, all files and save file without txt extension for success work

fixminigame

Edited September 18, 2021 by Elsidia

[natybs]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

With that i can help:

For each NPC you need enter a console and do those lines. Not do lines with --- it's just mark 3 NPC's on 10 marked as green you need put into your DCL hex load order. If you use vortex you can find it plugins section (note use hex, not decimal).

or you can find load order in loot.

Console part:

  Hide contents

--- Belinda ---
prid 10118ddf
disable
prid 10118dd6
enable
prid 10118ddf
enable
--- Lara ---
prid 10118de4
disable
prid 10118dd7
enable
--- Vivianne ---
prid 10118de6
disable
prid 10118dd8
enable
prid 10118de6
enable

 

If all works fine it will reassign your pillory and put NPC into. Then you can start a game.

With bat file all thing are awful, not work.

But i made it too. Why. If after first time some of device not loaded, then you can run this file and reassign. It works only if first you do it through console.

To use this file you need open it in notepad, select edit -> replace. In first put in /10/

In second put in your DCL hex load order and press replace all.

Then  put this file into skyrim main folder (not data folder)

Then open a console and type

bat fixminigame

Then exit a console and NPC will realign in pillory.

 

Note: But only if in first time after you do it in console. After exit, or load a save bat file not work.

 

Good luck!

 

Note: to start sex game you need wait a long time and few times enter in console or sex will freeze. It's sexlab bug. I wrote in this thread but not got answer.

 

UPD: I forgot put file in. Also after edit a file you need save as, all files and save file without txt extension for success work

fixminigame 205 B · 0 downloads

thanks so much

i was playing round with the contraptions furniture that you can buy and put in house but the wall shackles do not seam to let a girl be assigned to then with pgup key? they might not be set up to actually be interacted with since i cant interact with them either. 

but thank you for the .bat file you are the best

[Elsidia]

21 hours ago, natybs said:

thanks so much

Opps: I forgot enable second NPC after disable, now fixed version:

Spoiler

prid /10/118ddf
disable
prid /10/118dd6
enable
prid /10/118ddf
enable
prid /10/118de4
disable
prid /10/118dd7
enable
prid /10/118de4
enable
prid /10/118de6
disable
prid /10/118dd8
enable
prid /10/118de6
enable

I mark with blue part what i forgot,

also i add those lines to bat file. But when loverslab load a file without extension it's put nif for my PC because you need after download delete this extension

UPD: here is full version of bat file only need download link down:

 

fixminigame

Edited September 19, 2021 by Elsidia

[YojimboRatchet]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

 

What it actually is, is that when the hand is removed/hidden by the outfit taking the hand slot, racemenu overlays doesn't account for that. It is places the overlay where the hand would be, if it were there. The overlay is behind you in this case because the straitjackets are using the armbinder or elbowbinder animations, which would normally have your hands behind you. But with the outfit equipped, there actually are no hands.

 

I thought it was something that needed fixed in racemenu (i.e. overlays shouldn't show when the body part is hidden), but I think I've tripped across a way to work around it. Some of the bodyslides roggvir gave me for the elbowbinders had the hands placed in the binders in a position that made sense. I've noticed that with the hands in the right place in the binders, the overlays don't seem to end up floating around outside the outfit. I'll see if I can work out something similar for the straitjackets too.

 

Good Luck !

 

It wasn't really anything that i found annoying to be honest. I mean I've been in a straightjacket countless times over the last few years, and this was the first time I ever noticed it, and only because I saw my "slave tattoo" from SlaveTats which I had on one of my hands, floating there. Then i saw my freckles and nail polish from Racemenu when i looked on an angle. So really, it's a rare thing and depends on the lighting / ENB someone uses and camera angle.

 

Oh well, back to my Bike and riding bound in Skyrim

 

BTW, were the arrows helpful ?

LOL ?

 

[YojimboRatchet]

5 hours ago, Elsidia said:

16 hours ago, natybs said:

so can i sue the regular enb boost for regular skyrim on special edition? i couldn't fine a version unique to special edition.

What you mean about enbboost?

If ENB then there is SE version: http://enbdev.com/download_mod_tesskyrimse.htm

 

Try this:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23174?tab=description

 

 

[hzhou35]

9 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Try following the bodyslide steps in the troubleshooting post.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-50-2020-11-26/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930

 

Thank you very much!

[kylexf]

@zaranthai think I saw you mention that you were working on some 3BB bodyslides, do you happen to have a cbbe vs bhunp recommendation for best fit? 

[natybs]

20 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Opps: I forgot enable second NPC after disable, now fixed version:

  Hide contents

prid /10/118ddf
disable
prid /10/118dd6
enable
prid /10/118ddf
enable
prid /10/118de4
disable
prid /10/118dd7
enable
prid /10/118de4
enable
prid /10/118de6
disable
prid /10/118dd8
enable
prid /10/118de6
enable

I mark with blue part what i forgot,

also i add those lines to bat file. But when loverslab load a file without extension it's put nif for my PC because you need after download delete this extension

 

fixminigame 230 B · 0 downloads

so add the blue part to the file you sent me? i know about .bat files but idk the specific command for dd stuff. the blue goes in the first file or the second file>

[Elsidia]

13 minutes ago, natybs said:

o add the blue part to the file you sent me?

No in second post i add completed bat file with full text (included blue)

In this post: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3513809

[Kimy]

On 9/17/2021 at 8:50 PM, zarantha said:

I thought it was something that needed fixed in racemenu (i.e. overlays shouldn't show when the body part is hidden), but I think I've tripped across a way to work around it. Some of the bodyslides roggvir gave me for the elbowbinders had the hands placed in the binders in a position that made sense. I've noticed that with the hands in the right place in the binders, the overlays don't seem to end up floating around outside the outfit. I'll see if I can work out something similar for the straitjackets too.

 

Not sure if that will work. The SJs hide the hands and that's precisely why sex animations work with that model quite well. If you unhide them, they will pop out during animations.

 

I wouldn't waste a lot of time with that, tbh. I admittedly don't use SlaveTats a lot, but I have never seen any instance of that issue happening before, and it didn't get reported to me before either.

[YojimboRatchet]

1 hour ago, Kimy said:

but I have never seen any instance of that issue happening before, and it didn't get reported to me before either.

 

As I said earlier, I've been in Straightjackets before, and in using this mod for well over a year, most likely hundreds of times. That was the first time i noticed it, and -only- because of the lighting and the angle of the camera at the time. Otherwise I never would have noticed it. That would most likely explain why no one has ever reported it, because it's difficult to notice. I am using Obsidian Weathers with Imaginarium, and I sincerely believe that the lighting it provides is the only reason I even noticed it.

 

Is it game-breaking ? nope, not at all. I just figured I would report it anyway, even if it is a very very minor visual thing. And hell, as long as it doesn't interfere with riding my bike all across Tamriel, I'm good with whatever you think

 

 

[natybs]

hey does anyone know why the wall shackles furniture wont lock npcs into it when i hit pgup on npc then pgup on the shackles? no dialog box pops up to lock them in like all the other furniture ive tried so far so jw id they were never intended to be used or what. 

[Roggvir]

3 hours ago, Kimy said:

 

Not sure if that will work. The SJs hide the hands and that's precisely why sex animations work with that model quite well. If you unhide them, they will pop out during animations.

 

I wouldn't waste a lot of time with that, tbh. I admittedly don't use SlaveTats a lot, but I have never seen any instance of that issue happening before, and it didn't get reported to me before either.

There is actually a very simple solution.
Use NiOverride equippable transforms to scale down the arms.

Equippable transforms are already used by various shoes/boots for High Heels, so it is nothing new.

Add the following SDTA NiStringExtraData to the "shirt" mesh in straitjacket's NIF (same as you would add it to any high heels):

[{"name":"NPC L UpperArm [LUar]","scale":0.01},{"name":"NPC R UpperArm [RUar]","scale":0.01},{"name":"NPC L Forearm [LLar]","scale":0.01},{"name":"NPC R Forearm [RLar]","scale":0.01},{"name":"NPC L Hand [LHnd]","scale":0.01},{"name":"NPC R Hand [RHnd]","scale":0.01}]

...it will make all the arm bones 100x smaller, so tiny they would be hard to see, and it will also shrink them inside the shoulders, so the straitjacket shirt will completely cover them anyway.

Obviously, any overlays, no matter how they are applied, will follow the bone structure.

 

There is one possibility when this may not work - if the user is using bone scaling via RaceMenu on the same bones - then i suspect the transforms applied from RaceMenu would win as they porbably get to be applied after the equippable transforms from the NIF.
But that is quite an edge case, and even if it happens, nothing breaks, no danger, it will be like before and the overlays may be visible as a result.

[natybs]

some devious devices lose the dialog box to be equipped on em and then dont show up. i remember finding a way to fix this last time i played but ic ant remember it. does anyone know?

[Elsidia]

3 minutes ago, natybs said:

some devious devices lose the dialog box to be equipped

This happen as i heard if you install noenchantment restriction mod. Or you have some old patches rewrites  DD.