Devious Devices SE

[Schlussel0719]

Armbinder and yoke animation broken. How do I fix it?

 

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[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Schlussel0719 said:

Armbinder and yoke animation broken. How do I fix it?

 

Use FNIS instead of Nemesis.

 

Try reloading the game, or load into a new cell or go through a loading door.

[Schlussel0719]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Use FNIS instead of Nemesis.

 

Try reloading the game, or load into a new cell or go through a loading door.

I'm using FNIS, but it's not working properly.

[zarantha]

22 minutes ago, Schlussel0719 said:

I'm using FNIS, but it's not working properly.

 

What errors is it giving you?

Rerun FNIS and just copy everything in the white message window and paste it here.

[Schlussel0719]

39 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

What errors is it giving you?

Rerun FNIS and just copy everything in the white message window and paste it here.

I don't know, but I cleared the overwrite before running FNIS and it worked fine.

[fmilluminatus]

Ok, so one of my followers (Serana) had "iron prisoner chains" added to her inventory by DD, and apparently NONE of the keys are the "right key" to remove it...? How to I get rid of this thing? If I use console to unequip it, she simply re-equips it later. It also, for some stupid reason, can't be deleted with "removeitem". Once it's unequiped, trying to remove it from her inventory causes it to re-equip also. 

There has to be a master debug key that allows you to remove bugged garbage like this. The fact that followers are also somehow able to have DD's magically appear in their inventory that then can't be removed it not a "cool" gameplay mechanic either. How do I remove this and prevent it from happening again? Thanks!

Edited September 5, 2021 by fmilluminatus

[zarantha]

33 minutes ago, fmilluminatus said:

There has to be a master debug key that allows you to remove bugged garbage like this. The fact that followers are also somehow able to have DD's magically appear in their inventory that then can't be removed it not a "cool" gameplay mechanic either. How do I remove this and prevent it from happening again? Thanks!

 

NPCs are also affected by traps. You need 2 restraints keys to remove the chains (at least, that's what was used when I tested wearing them).

To prevent them from being re-equipped they need to be removed from the NPC's inventory.

 

Did you disable these settings in DCL (if you have it)? If you use other devious mods, you will also need to check them to see if they process followers. The only thing the NPC settings in DD control are how many followers are processed for animations. So it's not *this* mod that's doing it.

 

[fmilluminatus]

40 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

NPCs are also affected by traps. You need 2 restraints keys to remove the chains (at least, that's what was used when I tested wearing them).

To prevent them from being re-equipped they need to be removed from the NPC's inventory.

 

Did you disable these settings in DCL (if you have it)? If you use other devious mods, you will also need to check them to see if they process followers. The only thing the NPC settings in DD control are how many followers are processed for animations. So it's not *this* mod that's doing it.

 

I don't have DCL or any mods that would have DD "traps" for followers. I'm using DD only as a framework for mods with custom DD's (for example Sanguine's debauchery and Parasites). I don't really care for the main DD mod as it's un-immersive (latex and shiny leather in Skyrim? no) and the devices just end up being annoying buggy garbage that get in the way of my gameplay (like, for example, right now). 

I actually gave myself 4 restraints keys in console but it still didn't work and said I "don't have the right keys". Very irritating. 

Edited September 5, 2021 by fmilluminatus

[binyaminimal]

So. This supposed SE version of DD is still in form 43? Does anyone have an idea where I can find esp's and esm's that are form 44?

 

[zarantha]

8 minutes ago, fmilluminatus said:

I don't have DCL or any mods that would have DD "traps" for followers. I'm using DD only as a framework for mods with custom DD's (for example Sanguine's debauchery and Parasites). I don't really care for the main DD mod as it's un-immersive (latex and shiny leather in Skyrim? no) and the devices just end up being annoying buggy garbage that get in the way of my gameplay (like, for example, right now). 

I actually gave myself 4 restraints keys but it still didn't work and said I "don't have the right keys". Very irritating. 

 

Might be more, I thought some of these were random numbers of keys, up to 5, but I don't recall for sure.

 

I get what you're saying, but DD is a framework and doesn't distribute anything on it's own. So some other mod is distributing it to followers/NPCs, or equipping it to them directly, or putting it in containers where an NPC can loot them.

 

If you do the console command to remove it again, can you go into your follower's inventory immediately and take it? Have you given them any body armor to wear in the body slot? They may be equipping it because there's nothing else to wear in that slot.

 

If you have devious devices equip, you can target the npc and remove the device that way. Not sure if it would be any more permanent, but it's easier than trying to figure out which key you need and how many (for devices that need more than 1 key).

[zarantha]

14 minutes ago, binyaminimal said:

So. This supposed SE version of DD is still in form 43? Does anyone have an idea where I can find esp's and esm's that are form 44?

 

 

You don't need them. Just ignore the warning in your mod manager.

 

[Elsidia]

11 hours ago, fmilluminatus said:

had "iron prisoner chains" added to her inventory by DD

I had strange feeling about it. Try point cursor on follower and press key "Page up"

[fmilluminatus]

13 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Might be more, I thought some of these were random numbers of keys, up to 5, but I don't recall for sure.

 

I get what you're saying, but DD is a framework and doesn't distribute anything on it's own. So some other mod is distributing it to followers/NPCs, or equipping it to them directly, or putting it in containers where an NPC can loot them.

 

If you do the console command to remove it again, can you go into your follower's inventory immediately and take it? Have you given them any body armor to wear in the body slot? They may be equipping it because there's nothing else to wear in that slot.

 

If you have devious devices equip, you can target the npc and remove the device that way. Not sure if it would be any more permanent, but it's easier than trying to figure out which key you need and how many (for devices that need more than 1 key).

 

Hmm, I don't think I have any mods that should be putting DD's anywhere where NPC's can get them. 

If I try to take it from the followers inventory after the console command, it still there and trying to take it actually makes it equip again, which is super annoying. You're probably right about the slot, but unfortunately, I can't figure out which slot it is. The NPC / follower (Serana) is wearing armor in almost every possible slot (I'm using the TAOWBA bikini armor which takes up a bunch of different slots) but still the chain re-equips in some other slot; no clue which one. 

What is devious devices equip?

[fmilluminatus]

3 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I had strange feeling about it. Try point cursor on follower and press key "Page up"

 

Ok, I will try

[Elsidia]

4 minutes ago, fmilluminatus said:

What is devious devices equip?

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2435-devious-devices-equip/

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, fmilluminatus said:

The NPC / follower (Serana) is wearing armor in almost every possible slot (I'm using the TAOWBA bikini armor which takes up a bunch of different slots) but still the chain re-equips in some other slot; no clue which one. 

 

Looks like prisoner chains are in mod arm right slot 59, I thought they were slot 32 sorry. And I don't see any of the TAWOBA taking up that slot. So there goes that idea. If you have arm cuffs, those are in the same slot.

[VeryShay]

Currently character is stuck in armbinder animation animation while sprinting and when having an armbinder equipped my hands completely disappear.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, VeryShay said:

Currently character is stuck in armbinder animation animation while sprinting and when having an armbinder equipped my hands completely disappear.

 

Hands are supposed to disappear when wearing an armbinder. it's not like you can see them anyway.

 

Did you batch build the outfits for DD?

Did you install DD for Him and BRRF so devices will show on males and better fit the beast races? These are part of the DD installer, not separate downloads.

 

For being stuck in an animation, are you using Nemesis? If so, you need to use FNIS.

If you have FNIS Sexy Move, try toggling it.

[Dont Tell My Parents]

So I noticed some of my armours don't show up, they're using slots that are hidden when there's something on the body....I know I can change those values in the settings but what am I supposed to change them to? It's slots 49, 56, and another one....it means no pants or jackets or belts for some of the modular armours I wear like Dark Dreams and Seduction Mashup. Would really appreciate some help to keep the mod working but also get to wear the armours I want to please :).

[Herowynne]

19 minutes ago, Dont Tell My Parents said:

So I noticed some of my armours don't show up, they're using slots that are hidden when there's something on the body....I know I can change those values in the settings but what am I supposed to change them to? It's slots 49, 56, and another one....it means no pants or jackets or belts for some of the modular armours I wear like Dark Dreams and Seduction Mashup. Would really appreciate some help to keep the mod working but also get to wear the armours I want to please :).

 

You can turn off the Device Hider in the MCM.

 

Go to MCM -> Devious Devices -> page Devices Underneath (1)

 

Then set Item Hider Slot = NONE (DISABLED)
 

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by Herowynne

[VeryShay]

7 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Hands are supposed to disappear when wearing an armbinder. it's not like you can see them anyway.

 

Did you batch build the outfits for DD?

Did you install DD for Him and BRRF so devices will show on males and better fit the beast races? These are part of the DD installer, not separate downloads.

 

For being stuck in an animation, are you using Nemesis? If so, you need to use FNIS.

If you have FNIS Sexy Move, try toggling it.

Ah, I was using a robe armbinder from the grimoire so I figured my hands would not disappear. I have not batch build the outfits yet as in my 4am troubleshooting brain I was overthinking it and thought I would need to customise a specific body for the outfits? Ill reread it with a fresher brain and try it out.
And yes I did select the male and beat race addon on the install.

I am not using FNIS sexy move nor am I using nemesis.

[Quoozey]

Using the Diamond body CBBE preset. Encountered 2 problems in one sort of.

 

1. I tried disabling chastity bras in Cursed Loot and they still equip, very often too.

2. After removing a chastity bra, character's breasts continued to be "squished". I have tried turning breast node management off, then on again, then off again. I tried equipping different armours and clothes. I tried running body slide again. I tried uninstalling 3BA and then reinstalling 3BA and then running body slide again. None of these options have worked.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, VeryShay said:

Ah, I was using a robe armbinder from the grimoire so I figured my hands would not disappear. I have not batch build the outfits yet as in my 4am troubleshooting brain I was overthinking it and thought I would need to customise a specific body for the outfits? Ill reread it with a fresher brain and try it out.
And yes I did select the male and beat race addon on the install.

I am not using FNIS sexy move nor am I using nemesis.

 

For  the rope binder, one of them comes with it's own hands, so until you are in the pose you won't have hands.

Couldn't tell from the screenshot what rope binder, it actually looked like no binder at all.

 

Make sure there were no errors when running fnis. Otherwise, you character might not be getting into the pose due to script lag. Usually, jumping or changing cells (going through a loading screen) will reset that.

[zarantha]

17 minutes ago, rainbowgasm said:

Using the Diamond body CBBE preset. Encountered 2 problems in one sort of.

 

1. I tried disabling chastity bras in Cursed Loot and they still equip, very often too.

2. After removing a chastity bra, character's breasts continued to be "squished". I have tried turning breast node management off, then on again, then off again. I tried equipping different armours and clothes. I tried running body slide again. I tried uninstalling 3BA and then reinstalling 3BA and then running body slide again. None of these options have worked.

 

1. The MCM options only cover traps. If you're getting the bras from other events or quests, there's no way to disable those. You will have items you don't want forced on you from time to time, this is expected. If you have other DD mods that equip devices, the DCL mcm options will not affect those mods so you can get bras from those mods too.

 

2. How are you removing them?

 

Simply deleting the inventory item is not enough. DD items are actually in two parts, one you can see and an invisible piece for the scripts.

Make sure you are removing them properly using a key or escaping. If you must forcefully remove it, the simplest way is to use the 'free me' option in the mcm (ONLY if you are NOT on a DCL quest or wearing quest devices) or by using the Devious Devices Equip mod. If you removed it through the console, you probably broke it, revert to a save before you removed it.

[n00nex]

Got main mod installed as well as BRRF and For Him.   Maybe stupid question but SoS works with most other restraints, is there any way to get it to work with this full body rope restraint?