Devious Devices SE

[Valauthiel]

14 hours ago, Elsidia said:

About your problem - maybe if game thinks that you are locked in pillory, you can struggle out from invisible thing? Also if there is timer, probably you will be release in time what you set.

Also if you sure that sex act is triggered by DCL - that means there is bug. You need report to LE thread for Kimy, maybe she have ideas, how it can be fixed.

if this sex act is triggered by another mod - you can nicely ask in this mod thread to made DCL compatibility patch.

Or maybe if you name mod, what triggers this sex act, there will be some good Samaritans what will write this patch for this mod.

 

Thanks for the suggestion  Will do a trial and error run with the mods when my brain isn't liquid, maybe I'll find a culprit ^^

[Burtchin]

On 9/28/2021 at 12:51 AM, zarantha said:

 

What mods do you have enabled now? (just skse, skyui, sexlab, sexlab aroused, fnis, xp32, racemenu, body mod, DD?)

Can you get a list of enabled mods and plugins, or screenshot the filtered list for enabled?

You've reinstalled DD?

 

Have you purged your mods and made sure nothing is left over in your data folder? specifically, there should be no meshes folder when everything is purged.

You may want to just delete the data folder and then verify files in steam.

 

What I think is happening is:
1. Nemesis overwrote some animation files in the mod itself - this is why reinstall is required for *anything* that you would normally need to run fnis for.

2. There are leftover files in your skyrim data folder that are overwriting or taking precedence over the vortex files somehow.

3. You've got some animation or idle mod still installed that is conflicting.

 

Ok, I fixed it.

I took the “nuclear” option and reinstalled Skyrim from scratch on Steam. Important things:

-    I changed my Steam library to be in a non-UAC folder (it was in Program Files x86 before, which maybe FNIS didn’t like). It’s annoying to do if you keep the same drive, so here is the tutorial I used for future readers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FEc2DUIWQU&ab_channel=GamerPoets
-    I realised when I was running FNIS or Nemesis and new files were put into Data, I used to click “keep new files” on Vortex pop-ups during follow-up deployments. This may have caused the new, bugged animations to backpropagate to the FNIS (or Nemesis) staging folder. This probably made the bug "purge-proof". Silly me…
-    That’s why I think this may have been important: I re-downloaded FNIS from Nexus and reinstalled it clean.
-    None of the other mods I used were re-installed, they were all the old archives I had been using before. Except…
-    I updated Unofficial SSE Patch from 4.2.2 to 4.2.5b. I don’t think it matters though.
-    I (obviously) had to re-build all the CBBE files, though I don’t think that matters either.
-    I tested directly that removing the FNIS Spells will break the bound animation when in combat (key R).

 

I then re-added all the (many) previous mods I had with success. Fixing DD also fixed SD+.

 

Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!

[Jon20]

Hi! Just started a new playthrough on Skyrim, first time using these kinds of mods. Really love the look of the outfits, they're great!

 

I've been having an issue with gags and beast races however. I've installed the MFG fix from the link provided in the troubleshooting part, but it seems like the gags don't fit the races. The gags are clipping through the head. I've got For Him and the BRRF installed too. Hopefully it's just me being an idiot and missing something important.

[ExodusTransonicMercury]

Hi!

 

I'm currently editing my mod, and I wished to ask the assets' creators for the permission to include retextured version of some items, but I don't know which one created which items. Currently, the items I would like to retexture are the "restrictive" restraints (boots, gloves, collar, corset), and the harnesses (slave and chastity, and ebonite gags).

 

Let me know if you need more information, before giving out an answer!

Have a good day, thanks for the mod anyway!

[tekkkie]

My character just got locked in a catsuit straitjacket and the back of the legs is showing through the outfit.
I already rebuild the BodySlide files.
I had the issue before with the restrictive boots, buit a rebuild did fix it there.
Is this the same as with elbowbinder? I found a overwrite file for that somewhere on this forum because that was also clipping.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Jon20 said:

Hi! Just started a new playthrough on Skyrim, first time using these kinds of mods. Really love the look of the outfits, they're great!

 

I've been having an issue with gags and beast races however. I've installed the MFG fix from the link provided in the troubleshooting part, but it seems like the gags don't fit the races. The gags are clipping through the head. I've got For Him and the BRRF installed too. Hopefully it's just me being an idiot and missing something important.

 

what order are the plugins in?

 

For him should be before BRRF.

otherwise, nothing should need to be done unless the npc has a custom sculpted head.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, ExodusTransonicMercury said:

Hi!

 

I'm currently editing my mod, and I wished to ask the assets' creators for the permission to include retextured version of some items, but I don't know which one created which items. Currently, the items I would like to retexture are the "restrictive" restraints (boots, gloves, collar, corset), and the harnesses (slave and chastity, and ebonite gags).

 

Let me know if you need more information, before giving out an answer!

Have a good day, thanks for the mod anyway!

 

Contributors should be listed both in the readme, the first post and the download page.

if you look through the folder structure, some meshes are separated or named by contributor. (HR is heretic, ft is fuertin, collygen, etc)

Beyond that, I'd try asking/looking on the LE thread or the dev thread. The SE thread isn't old enough to have this info.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, tekkkie said:

My character just got locked in a catsuit straitjacket and the back of the legs is showing through the outfit.
I already rebuild the BodySlide files.
I had the issue before with the restrictive boots, buit a rebuild did fix it there.
Is this the same as with elbowbinder? I found a overwrite file for that somewhere on this forum because that was also clipping.

 

straitjackets don't yet have a 3BBB conversion. i'm assuming that is what the clipping is, but a picture and telling us what body you use may help if you aren't using 3bbb

[Justalittlesexy]

I get a notification in MO that some Devious Devices plugins are Form 43 or lower. I downloaded the SE version, and the game runs, I haven't tried to use any of the Devious Devices stuff in game yet but I just want to make sure it is working or if I need to fix the Form 43 problem?

[Jon20]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

what order are the plugins in?

 

For him should be before BRRF.

otherwise, nothing should need to be done unless the npc has a custom sculpted head.

Thanks for the quick reply! I disabled all of my mods then reenabled them one by one, rebuilding FNIS as I went. I did also move the BRRF again back to after For Him, though I had tried that before and it didn't work. Somehow, and I'm still not really sure how, it's working again. Somewhere along the way I must have fixed whatever was wrong, and now the gags are showing correctly.

 

Also, I believe I read somewhere in this thread that you can change the size of the gags with RaceMenu? Given that I'm using a modded khajiit head who's muzzle is just a little longer than normal, I wouldn't mind changing the size of the gags, though I'm unsure of how to do that.

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, Justalittlesexy said:

I get a notification in MO that some Devious Devices plugins are Form 43 or lower. I downloaded the SE version, and the game runs, I haven't tried to use any of the Devious Devices stuff in game yet but I just want to make sure it is working or if I need to fix the Form 43 problem?

 

Ignore the form 43 warning. There's no real reason to convert the ESMs to form 44, and leaving them form 43 ensures that conversion does not break them.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, Jon20 said:

Thanks for the quick reply! I disabled all of my mods then reenabled them one by one, rebuilding FNIS as I went. I did also move the BRRF again back to after For Him, though I had tried that before and it didn't work. Somehow, and I'm still not really sure how, it's working again. Somewhere along the way I must have fixed whatever was wrong, and now the gags are showing correctly.

 

Also, I believe I read somewhere in this thread that you can change the size of the gags with RaceMenu? Given that I'm using a modded khajiit head who's muzzle is just a little longer than normal, I wouldn't mind changing the size of the gags, though I'm unsure of how to do that.

 

There's a mod that can do that for LE, but the script needs some work for SE. Nothing shows up in the showracemenu for the gags. I'm toying with trying to fix the script, but I've got the upcoming DD 5.2 release to prepare for, so that's on the back burner. I believe Roggvir has something unreleased in the works to do the same thing.

 

Your only options now until one of those two things happen is deal with it or try to fix it in outfit studio.

[Justalittlesexy]

43 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Ignore the form 43 warning. There's no real reason to convert the ESMs to form 44, and leaving them form 43 ensures that conversion does not break them.

 

Oh cool thanks!

[Jon20]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

There's a mod that can do that for LE, but the script needs some work for SE. Nothing shows up in the showracemenu for the gags. I'm toying with trying to fix the script, but I've got the upcoming DD 5.2 release to prepare for, so that's on the back burner. I believe Roggvir has something unreleased in the works to do the same thing.

 

Your only options now until one of those two things happen is deal with it or try to fix it in outfit studio.

Ah, okay. Thanks for letting me know!

[YojimboRatchet]

14 hours ago, Justalittlesexy said:

I get a notification in MO that some Devious Devices plugins are Form 43 or lower. I downloaded the SE version, and the game runs, I haven't tried to use any of the Devious Devices stuff in game yet but I just want to make sure it is working or if I need to fix the Form 43 problem?

 

In MO2, go to "settings", then "Plugins", and look for the Form 43 Checker under the "Diagnose" category, and disable it (uncheck it if it is checked). no more form 43 warnings

 

[tekkkie]

18 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

straitjackets don't yet have a 3BBB conversion. i'm assuming that is what the clipping is, but a picture and telling us what body you use may help if you aren't using 3bbb

Of course, I always seem to forget to include some part of relevant info, I am using the CBBE oppai body.

 

[zarantha]

58 minutes ago, tekkkie said:

Of course, I always seem to forget to include some part of relevant info, I am using the CBBE oppai body.

 

 

 

Ok, thanks, but I was looking for the body name, not the preset name though. 

 

Which one of these are you applying the Oppai preset to?

• Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-
• CBBE 3BA (3BBB)
• CBBE SMP (3BBB)

If it's one of the last two, there's no bodyslide yet for those bodies. You're using the CBBE SE bodyslide since it's the only available one instead, which doesn't have the rear thigh, rear calf bone weights, so it clips on really tight fitting clothing. I wouldn't expect it to be quite so bad though. You could make sure you installed the CBBE version of the bodyslides and not the UNP ones.

 

You can load the outfit in outfit studio, select the catsuit part of it only, right click and copy bone weights, and save. Exit outfit studio and bodyslide, then reopen it and rebuild the outfit and that should either fix it or improve it.

 

Either way, I expect it will be fixed in the next version, which should be soonish. I'm going through the bodyslides now to add 3BBB bodyslides, and this will include the straitjackets.

We're adding in some zaps too, which should reduce the clipping a lot more for things like the catsuits.

[carlj67]

Ok. I am confused. Is this the Skyrim SE version or Skyrim LE version of this mod? The mod page is in the SE section and is titled SE, but all the requirement links point to LE mods. I downloaded the version linked to this page and installed the SE (not VR) option using Vortex and everything installed but every plugin is flagged "Designed for a different game" in Vortex. I'm getting the same Vortex error with DCL 9. Is this normal? 

[tekkkie]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Ok, thanks, but I was looking for the body name, not the preset name though. 

 

Which one of these are you applying the Oppai preset to?

• Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-
• CBBE 3BA (3BBB)
• CBBE SMP (3BBB)

If it's one of the last two, there's no bodyslide yet for those bodies. You're using the CBBE SE bodyslide since it's the only available one instead, which doesn't have the rear thigh, rear calf bone weights, so it clips on really tight fitting clothing. I wouldn't expect it to be quite so bad though. You could make sure you installed the CBBE version of the bodyslides and not the UNP ones.

 

You can load the outfit in outfit studio, select the catsuit part of it only, right click and copy bone weights, and save. Exit outfit studio and bodyslide, then reopen it and rebuild the outfit and that should either fix it or improve it.

 

Either way, I expect it will be fixed in the next version, which should be soonish. I'm going through the bodyslides now to add 3BBB bodyslides, and this will include the straitjackets.

We're adding in some zaps too, which should reduce the clipping a lot more for things like the catsuits.

I am using CBBE SMP (3BBB)
Sorry again, I clearly don't understand it quite well enough. Not even to give the proper diagnostic info for 'bug' fixing.

I work in 3D (CAD) drawing/designing, but for some reason I just cannot seem to figure out how to change anything in the outfit studio.
If updates to DD are coming soonish (tm) then I'll just wait.

[Hexogen]

On 9/30/2021 at 11:51 AM, tekkkie said:

I am using CBBE SMP (3BBB)
Sorry again, I clearly don't understand it quite well enough. Not even to give the proper diagnostic info for 'bug' fixing.

I work in 3D (CAD) drawing/designing, but for some reason I just cannot seem to figure out how to change anything in the outfit studio.
If updates to DD are coming soonish (tm) then I'll just wait.

 

Once in outfit studio, file > load reference > CBBE SMP (or whatever it's called, I use 3BA)

 

Tick merge sliders at the bottom of the pop up

 

Ctrl + Shift + C to conform all meshes to the sliders > Ok

 

Right click the meshes you loaded up (the boots in this case) > Copy bone weights > Ok

 

Delete the reference and anything else that loaded with it (vagina, etc)

 

Save (should really save as instead though in case something went wrong)

 

This is the most basic, low effort way of converting things. Using the brushes for greater quality and precision actually requires you tinker around to learn stuff but this should get you through most basic conversions.

Edited October 2, 2021 by hexofishy

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, hexofishy said:

Right click the meshes you loaded up (the boots in this case) > Copy bone weights > Ok

As you speak about boots - i don't recommend this setting

If you do it - you will destroy feet bones.

Instead of it you need select all bones what related to legs - not feet and then copy selected bone weights.

In that case feet bones left from previous.

if you need change a feet bones too, load into boots your feet reference and the same - select now all bones what related to feet and do the same copy selected bone weights.

Also before import feet reference - remove reference from your current body or feet reference deletes body. After copy bones, delete feet reference and restore reference to body.

Also i not recommend use feet reference because those boots most is made in wrong shape for default body and copying feet bones can destroy boots.

 

Edited October 2, 2021 by Elsidia

[Sorrow_421]

So.... I can't pinpoint a problem I have and it's ruining my game (and sanity).... I can't remove devices.... NO MATTER what I do.

Be it from DD debug menu, DDequip can't remove them either, DCL can't remove them as well, console commands the same.

Whenever I click on an equiped device instead of remove it says "put it on" or "carry on" even if I have restraint keys.

And for some reason it seems it's happening only on "DDExpansion Devices". And it practically ruined my save, since I can't remove the iron chain collar no matter what I do. Obviously I am on SE.

 

Does anyone have any idea.....? Nothing overwrites DD.

 

Edited October 2, 2021 by Sorrow_421

[YojimboRatchet]

2 hours ago, Sorrow_421 said:

So.... I can't pinpoint a problem I have and it's ruining my game (and sanity).... I can't remove devices.... NO MATTER what I do.

Be it from DD debug menu, DDequip can't remove them either, DCL can't remove them as well, console commands the same.

Whenever I click on an equiped device instead of remove it says "put it on" or "carry on" even if I have restraint keys.

And for some reason it seems it's happening only on "DDExpansion Devices". And it practically ruined my save, since I can't remove the iron chain collar no matter what I do. Obviously I am on SE.

 

Does anyone have any idea.....? Nothing overwrites DD.

 

 

May want to post your mod and load order, and a papyrus log, if you have one. It would help others be able to investigate and troubleshoot better

 

If not, then give Elsidia your address. Elsidia will go with a sledgehammer and destroy your computer. and then no more problems ?

 

[Hexogen]

6 hours ago, Elsidia said:

As you speak about boots - i don't recommend this setting

If you do it - you will destroy feet bones.

Instead of it you need select all bones what related to legs - not feet and then copy selected bone weights.

In that case feet bones left from previous.

if you need change a feet bones too, load into boots your feet reference and the same - select now all bones what related to feet and do the same copy selected bone weights.

Also before import feet reference - remove reference from your current body or feet reference deletes body. After copy bones, delete feet reference and restore reference to body.

Also i not recommend use feet reference because those boots most is made in wrong shape for default body and copying feet bones can destroy boots.

 

Absolutely right, I always forget about the extra step with converting thigh high boots. Regarding the bone weights, you gotta learn about masking vertices first for things like boots I suppose if you want to lazily copy all. The actual feet bones should be fine in most cases, it's the thigh and calf movement that causes the animation clipping which you need the main body reference for so masking the everything below the ankles generally covers your bases for a copy bone weights. Otherwise, yeah you could just select the relevant bones in the bones tab and copy the selected weights.

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said:

If not, then give Elsidia your address. Elsidia will go with a sledgehammer and destroy your computer. and then no more problems

I'm so horrible?