Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

5 minutes ago, judge007 said:

 

Famous last words . . .

 

I know

 

The question is, am I playing the game or am I playing mod the game?

[judge007]

26 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

I know

 

The question is, am I playing the game or am I playing mod the game?

Ok, want to test drive this one?

2025716426_DeviousDevices5.1SE_Voice.7z

[Kimy]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I know

 

The question is, am I playing the game or am I playing mod the game?

 

I haven't finished Skyrim. Ever. Not sure how I would have to answer that question! Haha!

[judge007]

8 minutes ago, Kimy said:

 

I haven't finished Skyrim. Ever. Not sure how I would have to answer that question! Haha!

Hi!

 

A couple of posts up I left a voice for Devious Devices 5.1 SE

It's the voice files from the dialog synthesized

 

Packaged the way it is, is good for SE

Unpack the BSA and the sound folder can be dropped into the LE mod

 

You can treat this as resource material if you like it.

 

That way you can play "modding the game" some more.?

[Elsidia]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

The question is, am I playing the game or am I playing mod the game?

I don't like a Skyrim. I play Skyrim  as addon to DCL.

I never kill any dragon in Skyrim. Even first what's need to complete story quest.

I see this dragon only once by accident and after that reload previous save to do not trigger this story quest.

PS: some game mechanics i like in Skyrim. Like build own home and skill leveling up system.

[tznvlw]

On 11/30/2020 at 4:32 AM, zarantha said:

I *think* the issue here is that straitjackets use the 'armbinder' pose, but the body reference actually has no arms to make it easier to fix clipping.

 

Probably not immediately fixable, and may not be a DD bug at all, since I'd expect the overlays should respect when the body part is hidden. Maybe ask on racemenu to see if it's their bug, or if there's a better way to hide the body part. I've recently discovered posing in outfit studio, and that may be a possible workaround, but it's a lot more time consuming to do instead of deleting that part of the shape, which is what they've done in LE.

 

@zarantha

 

I would like to ask you, is there any progress and is there any specific solution for straitjackets in Outfit studio? If so, can you tell me something, I'm very interested

[goten77]

I recently did a fresh install, and now all the plugs and vibrator effects stop immediatly in start.

On NPC they work just fine.

It is a known issue, and is there a fix? I couldn't find anything 

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, judge007 said:

Ok, want to test drive this one?

2025716426_DeviousDevices5.1SE_Voice.7z 147.26 MB · 1 download

 

Sure, I'll drop that in too. I was planning to start a new game today, I should be able to test it after the chloe start.

[zarantha]

13 minutes ago, goten77 said:

I recently did a fresh install, and now all the plugs and vibrator effects stop immediatly in start.

On NPC they work just fine.

It is a known issue, and is there a fix? I couldn't find anything 

 

It's not known. If anything, i've seen the opposite, the plug go on vibrating indefinitely. That was an arousal issue with one of the arousal mods though.

I'd still recommend starting there, it might just be a variation on that bug.

 

What arousal mod are you using? (Redux, Babo's, Extended, Modular?)

 

If you're using Redux, you need to go through your load order the hard way and see what's conflicting.  Remove everything except DD and it's requirements, test, then slowly add in mods one at a time until it breaks again.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, tznvlw said:

 

@zarantha

 

I would like to ask you, is there any progress and is there any specific solution for straitjackets in Outfit studio? If so, can you tell me something, I'm very interested

 

Posting the response here too for others to find/see.

 

No, there's no fixes for overlays showing when the arms are hidden.

 

We are able to conform the straitjackets in outfit studio by posing the reference shape, but that has no effect on the pose used in game because the in game pose uses specific animations and we can't change the animation.

 

I'll also say this must be a racemenu issue. If you use overlays and then play the vanilla start, I've seen my arm overlays (with no arms) obscure my vision briefly during the time when you are getting ready to have your head chopped off. No DDs are in play at that time.

 

In the end, the overlays shouldn't show when the reference shape has been edited to remove the body part they are overlaying. It's not something fixable in DD or in outfit studio.

[fgortwsfsg]

I can't figure this mod out. Is it only a framework for other mods or is it a standalone?

 

Does it only work if the player character is female?

 

You mention:

 

Bondage Furniture Features
- Sex scene support to allow playing animations with one actor locked in the device.

 

- Full NPC Support: All devious devices are capable of being worn by NPCs, and most devious effects will function on them as well! Show your companion who's in charge, or teach that annoying bitch in the shop a lesson!

- Intuitive Interfaces: No need to use spells, shouts, or other quirky methods to enjoy these devices! Just click them in your inventory and choose what you want to do with them via the easy to use interaction menu!

- Sexlab Support: While in a chastity belt, the Dragonborn's (or any NPC's) most intimate of intimates will be off limits! The actors will be unable to use any sex scenes involving the "Vaginal", "Anal", "Masturbation", or "Fisting" tags. In most cases, the scene will be replaced by a chastity-friendly scene, including Oral, Blowjobs, Handjobs, Boobjobs, and whatever else may be available. While wearing gags, the Oral animations will be off limits as well, unless it happens to be a ring gag.

 

Q: Where can I get the items in game?
A: DD itself won't equip anything on you. It is a library of bondage items and mechanics related to them. You will need mods actually using the framework, such as Deviously Cursed Loot, Devious Followers or Shout Like a Virgin.

 

But you never mention how to actually trigger the sex scenes? I can get an NPC on the furniture but when I try to trigger a sexlab scene with them the furniture disappears. It doesn't seem to matter what option I choose. Do I need one of these other mods to do it?

 

[Mister X]

1 hour ago, fgortwsfsg said:

I can't figure this mod out. Is it only a framework for other mods or is it a standalone?

 

Does it only work if the player character is female?

 

You mention:

 

Bondage Furniture Features
- Sex scene support to allow playing animations with one actor locked in the device.

 

- Full NPC Support: All devious devices are capable of being worn by NPCs, and most devious effects will function on them as well! Show your companion who's in charge, or teach that annoying bitch in the shop a lesson!

- Intuitive Interfaces: No need to use spells, shouts, or other quirky methods to enjoy these devices! Just click them in your inventory and choose what you want to do with them via the easy to use interaction menu!

- Sexlab Support: While in a chastity belt, the Dragonborn's (or any NPC's) most intimate of intimates will be off limits! The actors will be unable to use any sex scenes involving the "Vaginal", "Anal", "Masturbation", or "Fisting" tags. In most cases, the scene will be replaced by a chastity-friendly scene, including Oral, Blowjobs, Handjobs, Boobjobs, and whatever else may be available. While wearing gags, the Oral animations will be off limits as well, unless it happens to be a ring gag.

 

Q: Where can I get the items in game?
A: DD itself won't equip anything on you. It is a library of bondage items and mechanics related to them. You will need mods actually using the framework, such as Deviously Cursed Loot, Devious Followers or Shout Like a Virgin.

 

But you never mention how to actually trigger the sex scenes? I can get an NPC on the furniture but when I try to trigger a sexlab scene with them the furniture disappears. It doesn't seem to matter what option I choose. Do I need one of these other mods to do it?

 

 

You do realize, that you already gavethe answer to yourself, do you? ? (Hint, look for the text I marked in red  )

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, fgortwsfsg said:

I can't figure this mod out. Is it only a framework for other mods or is it a standalone?

 

A: DD itself won't equip anything on you. It is a library of bondage items and mechanics related to them. You will need mods actually using the framework, such as Deviously Cursed Loot, Devious Followers or Shout Like a Virgin.

 

 

DD will work for males if you install the For Him option. It is a framework. You need other mods to make use of it, including for sex scenes.

 

Where your confusion may be coming from is there is 'Deviously Cursed Loot' by the same author that acts as the plugin to make use of the DD objects. You don't need to use DCL, it's just the easiest to find and is tightly integrated with DD. There are other mods that use DD.

 

The other features you listed are also features that other mods make use of. I.E. a mod equips a chastity belt, then tells DD to start a sex scene. DD will look at it's animation list and go, fine, here's a list of animations you can use for sex while you have a belt on, we'll use one of these.

 

Some with furniture. Mod says, lock the player in stocks. DD goes fine, done. Player can use the E key to try to get out of the stocks that the mod asked for. Starting a sex scene through a mod using DD will respect that you're in furniture. If you just drop it down and use debug option to start sex, it's possible DD may not know you're bound to intercept and use the animation filter. There's also an option in DD's MCM that when unchecked lets more animations be used at the cost of furniture or other blocking outfits may not show up during sex.

 

You can equip the outfits on yourself, the ones binding hands or hobbling your legs  will automatically use those animations, you don't need to do anything else. Or a mod can equip it for you or an NPC.

[Lustnt]

are there any locations where these furniture exist, so I could just use them?

[zarantha]

20 minutes ago, Lustnt said:

are there any locations where these furniture exist, so I could just use them?

 

Depends on what mods you have in addition to DD. Since DD is a framework, it doesn't add them to the world itself.

 

If you have DCL  9.0, you can go to the new inn in Riverwood.

[Lustnt]

57 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Depends on what mods you have in addition to DD. Since DD is a framework, it doesn't add them to the world itself.

 

If you have DCL  9.0, you can go to the new inn in Riverwood.

ah I see, thanks.

[Garadons]

And so, let's get started. After installing DD, there were two problems:

- The game crashes when loading a save.

- I can't find DD devices in BodySlide (Maybe I'm just not looking there).

 

This is the first time I install DD, and in general I am new to mods for Skyrim, do not judge strictly.

 

Oh, and yes, I use a translator.

 

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Edited July 19, 2021 by Garadons

[fgortwsfsg]

It sounds like you installed it wrong Garadons. I would try to reinstall it.

 

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Thank you for the replies earlier.

 

DD will work for males if you install the For Him option. It is a framework. You need other mods to make use of it, including for sex scenes.

 

I didn't even know this existed. I downloaded it, thanks.

 

Where your confusion may be coming from is there is 'Deviously Cursed Loot' by the same author that acts as the plugin to make use of the DD objects. You don't need to use DCL, it's just the easiest to find and is tightly integrated with DD. There are other mods that use DD.

 

My confusion was mostly that the mod said it had sex scene support with sexlab, so I thought DD must be the framework for SL or something. I don't know.

 

The other features you listed are also features that other mods make use of. I.E. a mod equips a chastity belt, then tells DD to start a sex scene. DD will look at it's animation list and go, fine, here's a list of animations you can use for sex while you have a belt on, we'll use one of these.

 

That makes sense.

 

Some with furniture. Mod says, lock the player in stocks. DD goes fine, done. Player can use the E key to try to get out of the stocks that the mod asked for. Starting a sex scene through a mod using DD will respect that you're in furniture. If you just drop it down and use debug option to start sex, it's possible DD may not know you're bound to intercept and use the animation filter. There's also an option in DD's MCM that when unchecked lets more animations be used at the cost of furniture or other blocking outfits may not show up during sex.

 

Okay I must still not be understanding then. My problem is this:

 

Player Character: Male

Follower: Female

 

I use the hotkey to get the follower into the furniture. Follower undresses and stays in furniture. I use sexlab (SL) dialogue to trigger sex scene (I've tried multiple attempts and selected every single option). Player character undresses. Follower flashes (I assume they are undressing again) and sex scene starts without furniture (it disappears).

 

I downloaded Bondage Furniture World and Deviously Cursed Loot. I ran FNIS.

 

I tried the same steps again. Same issue occurs. I tried spawning the furniture using additemmenu (I get the item and drop it into the world - this spawns it) and I've used furniture found in the world from Bondage Furniture World. Same result. Furniture is disappearing at start of sex scene.

 

So I was like okay. It sounds like an animation conflict and maybe a load order issue. I moved DD ahead of SL in my load order. Attempt all the same steps again, same issue. I gotta be doing something wrong here.

 

My question is this: how do I trigger a sex scene with a NPC and keep the furniture in it? Can anyone tell me step by step what they did and options they chose in the MCM to get it work? Or maybe this mod doesn't do this?

 

I've tried enabling/disabling every option I could think of in the MCM for these mods but I just can't get it to work. I've spent hours trying to figure this out because the mod seems really awesome and I would love to be able to use it.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

[zarantha]

3 minutes ago, fgortwsfsg said:

I didn't even know this existed. I downloaded it, thanks.

 

NO! Do not download it separately! It's an installer option in the file you downloaded from this thread. Reinstall "Devious Devices SE & VR 5.1.7z"

 

 

I don't use bondage furniture world, can't help you with that. Honestly, I don't do much with followers at all, I hate them and most users here are tying their character up. I'm trying to see if Inigo or Lucien will change my mind on followers.

 

With DCL, go to riverwood and see if you can tie your follower up in the inn there through dialog. You can also get yourself into furniture in there and try testing that way. Can't remember at the moment if I had random attacks stuck in the furniture in the escape room or not. Arresting yourself and getting stuck in stocks will usually result in getting a sex scene randomly,  if you have POP, it will use some of the furniture and your follower can be arrested and stuck in stocks too.

 

Otherwise, you might try asking in the LE DCL thread about how to get followers into furniture and sexing them there. Or maybe someone else here knows.

@Elsidia Were you able to get followers and furniture working?

[zarantha]

43 minutes ago, Garadons said:

And so, let's get started. After installing DD, there were two problems:

- The game crashes when loading a save.

- I can't find DD devices in BodySlide (Maybe I'm just not looking there).

 

This is the first time I install DD, and in general I am new to mods for Skyrim, do not judge strictly.

 

Oh, and yes, I use a translator.

 

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

 

First, you got the SE download  from this thread right?

Devious Devices SE & VR 5.1.7z

 

What mod manager are you using?

 

Bodyslides start with CBBE SE. If you're checking groups, you need these groups I have checked. You may also have the 4.3 3BA one if you downloaded the 3BBB bodyslides. If you need them, they're in the troubleshooting post.

 

 

If you aren't  checking groups, DD outfits  start with DDA OR DDX:

 

 

How many animations do you have after running FNIS? Your computer may not be able to handle a lot, try to keep it under 10000 if you can, remove a few SLAL packs if you need to.

 

 

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

Were you able to get followers and furniture working?

You can only put follower into furniture. Also followers ignore furniture and can go with it. Sasha also if need masturbate goes with furniture to bed and do it) Sex in furniture seems works only with pillory - there is some animations and if you choose it - it can change a roles with you.  Also it's use furniture not in world but spawn new from animation. All other sex scenes hide a furniture and do sex.

 

 

Edited July 19, 2021 by Elsidia

[TheDanishMuggle]

So I'm having a problem with the mod, every time any mod or myself tries to equip some certain devices it wont equip it. I eventually got to a point of why, couse when I try and remove one of these problem items from my inventory it comes up with "An error has occurred with your installation of Devious devices, pls check the log for more information, error text: IsWearingDevice received none augment."

so here is my problems
1. I don't know where the log is
2. I'm pretty sure I have installed it correctly since this is my 5'th time or so I have installed this mod

I have also done some searching and I cant find anybody else having the issue

Help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
(oh also if your gonna ask for a mod list or something along those lines pls write how to do so)

[fgortwsfsg]

Did you use bodyslide on the outfits to match your NPC/PC body to the outfits? They wont equip or make the NPC/PC invisible if you don't.

 

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NO! Do not download it separately! It's an installer option in the file you downloaded from this thread. Reinstall "Devious Devices SE & VR 5.1.7z"

 

Ah, my bad lol. I didn't see it. I went ahead and uninstalled everything including bondage furniture world because I forgot it used ZAP, not DD. I reinstalled DD with that option and DCL.

 

With DCL, go to riverwood and see if you can tie your follower up in the inn there through dialog.

 

I couldn't find the furniture here. I tried tying up the PC and random NPCs.

 

You can only put follower into furniture. Also followers ignore furniture and can go with it. Sasha also if need masturbate goes with furniture to bed and do it) Sex in furniture seems works only with pillory - there is some animations and if you choose it - it can change a roles with you.  Also it's use furniture not in world but spawn new from animation. All other sex scenes hide a furniture and do sex.

 

If I'm understanding what you're saying here correctly, basically I need to choose the correct sexlab dialogue and scene in order to trigger the pillory option because it's the only furniture that works. Is that right? ZAZ animations worked like that. The only furniture it had was pillory. Are you thinking of ZAZ, not DD maybe?

 

I use Sexlab Tools (mod) in order to choose the SL scene and change the stages. I went through every dialogue option and I didn't see anything that said pillory or any animation that used it.

 

I put DD items on my followers and this triggered a different animation (one that kept the bindings basically) but there was only 1 scene option for it. So maybe I need to have my follower in a specific DD item in order to trigger the pillory option? I grabbed a few different DD items using additemmenu but couldn't see any different scene/stage options.

 

Do I need a mod other than DD and DCL to use the furniture? What is POP? Prison Overhaul Patch?

 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2021 by fgortwsfsg

[zarantha]

4 minutes ago, fgortwsfsg said:

I couldn't find the furniture here. I tried tying up the PC and random NPCs.

 

If you have DCL 9.0, there's a new inn in Riverwood with all the bondage stuff. It's behind the sleeping giant inn, across the path from gerder's.

 

POP is Prison Overhaul Patched.

Edited July 20, 2021 by zarantha

[Garadons]

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

First, you got the SE download  from this thread right?

Devious Devices SE & VR 5.1.7z

 

What mod manager are you using?

 

Bodyslides start with CBBE SE. If you're checking groups, you need these groups I have checked. You may also have the 4.3 3BA one if you downloaded the 3BBB bodyslides. If you need them, they're in the troubleshooting post.

 

 

If you aren't  checking groups, DD outfits  start with DDA OR DDX:

 

 

How many animations do you have after running FNIS? Your computer may not be able to handle a lot, try to keep it under 10000 if you can, remove a few SLAL packs if you need to.

 

 

I just don't have these groups.