Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

34 minutes ago, ChandraArgentis said:

 

Sooo... which piece is breaking it for the later part of the quest? 

Firstly, the final time I got tied up in ropes, my calves went invisible, but it was workable.

Secondly, after I got the oversized ballgag in the sewers, he says he's going to chain my hands, and then the game crashes again.

 

Calves should be fixed with the included DD patch. I'll check again for the next release for anything I might have missed. To fix it yourself before then, follow the steps here:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/page/88/?tab=comments#comment-2944414

 

Sounds like SMP isn't working or SMP is using up too much memory for your setup and pc maybe.

I don't remember going into sewers, so I'm not sure what device is getting equipped there. The chains with the issues are mostly the Heretic chains, but I haven't heard of the wrist causing CTDs unless there's no SMP, but you say it's installed. Can you attach these two logs? Make sure it's skse and not skee.

 

\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\skse64.log
\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\hdtSMP64.log

 

If it's the ones I'm thinking of, try replacing these in \meshes\devious\Heretic\Gloves

don't rename them, I've removed HDT despite the name. Make a backup of your original files before replacing them.

 

RestrictiveGlovesHarnessHDT_1.nif

RestrictiveGlovesHarnessHDT_0.nif

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, 45672 said:

 

The sliders imported to sse fine, but it appears as though the functions they're attached to didn't retain the same functionality.

 

 

 

Definitely a custom head mesh. If that mod isn't working for you, you'll need to modify the gags in outfit studio. It will be an import, gags don't have bodyslide because it's expected that everyone uses the same head mesh. The other option is to edit your head in racemenu to fit the gag instead of editing the gag.

[ChandraArgentis]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Calves should be fixed with the included DD patch. I'll check again for the next release for anything I might have missed. To fix it yourself before then, follow the steps here:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/page/88/?tab=comments#comment-2944414

 

Sounds like SMP isn't working or SMP is using up too much memory for your setup and pc maybe.

I don't remember going into sewers, so I'm not sure what device is getting equipped there. The chains with the issues are mostly the Heretic chains, but I haven't heard of the wrist causing CTDs unless there's no SMP, but you say it's installed. Can you attach these two logs? Make sure it's skse and not skee.

 

\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\skse64.log
\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\hdtSMP64.log

 

If it's the ones I'm thinking of, try replacing these in \meshes\devious\Heretic\Gloves

don't rename them, I've removed HDT despite the name. Make a backup of your original files before replacing them.

 

RestrictiveGlovesHarnessHDT_1.nif 1.08 MB · 0 downloads

RestrictiveGlovesHarnessHDT_0.nif 1.08 MB · 0 downloads

 

 

It def isn't a RAM issue.  32gb RAM and a 3090. 

I went back and checked.  The quest is Supply and Demand, and the guy who puts extra shit on you is Vekel.  The maid outfits work fine.  The issue is on the 3rd set of gear (after the gag) where he wants to chain/bind you because "you won't need your hands".

 

Edit: No dice.  Still CTD with those files instead.

hdtSMP64.log skse64.log

Edited June 29, 2021 by ChandraArgentis

[Boareo]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Are you using nemesis? If you are, try with fnis only.

 

What do you mean by Nemesis? That a tool I should be using?

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, Boareo said:

What do you mean by Nemesis?

Nemesis is mod what can be used instead of FNIS and DD definitely not like a Nemesis. need use FNIS.

 

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, ChandraArgentis said:

you won't need your hands

It's still put on the same prisoner chains what from Chloe quest.

[ChandraArgentis]

18 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

It's still put on the same prisoner chains what from Chloe quest.

 

Those don't CTD me.  Also, my follower, Chloe, is already wearing those chains without crashing my game.

Also, I did a little TS because I noticed that I was getting a HDT loading error.  Turns out it was supposedly replaced by RaceMenu HDT.  After disabling HDT 1.5.97, I still CTD/

skse64.log

Edited June 29, 2021 by ChandraArgentis

[Boareo]

33 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Nemesis is mod what can be used instead of FNIS and DD definitely not like a Nemesis. need use FNIS.

 

I have been using FNIS 7.6 For Users through the whole process, haven't touched a "Nemesis" program.

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, ChandraArgentis said:

I noticed that I was getting a HDT loading error

I don't found any HDT loading error in your log. Maybe i'm blind. Also your log is more clean as my. But i don't have CTD on that quest.

Test one thing in game - enter in console and type:

Spoiler

help "maid chains"

Write down id

player.additem XX0e8084 1 where XX is your DCL hex load order.

Exit from console and put on maid chains. It CTD?

 

And second question: Are you Khalit or Argorian?

 

[zarantha]

 

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I don't found any HDT loading error in your log. Maybe i'm blind. A

 

There was one in the first log, the chinese site HDT DLL and the Nexus one were both installed. Probably because he was trying to use HDT Heels

 

checking plugin C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtSMP64.dll
registering plugin listener for SKSE at 4 of 5
plugin C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtSMP64.dll (00000001 hdtSSEPhysics 00000001) loaded correctly (handle 4)
checking plugin C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtSSEFramework.dll

 

Looks like the chinese site DLL was removed in the second log when he swapped to racemenu heels.

 

@Boareo Make sure you removed all remnants of the old HDT framework - the one from the chines offsite - and only use the Nexus one or the Karonar update to the Nexus HDT SMP. That means get rid of HDT Heels too. HDT Heels and Heel sounds can be replaced by empty esms if they're needed by a mod. I can't tell from the plugin list if they're empty or not.

 

If you're still crashing, please also get a netscriptframework crash log.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21294

[ChandraArgentis]

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I don't found any HDT loading error in your log. Maybe i'm blind. Also your log is more clean as my. But i don't have CTD on that quest.

Test one thing in game - enter in console and type:

  Hide contents

help "maid chains"

Write down id

player.additem XX0e8084 1 where XX is your DCL hex load order.

Exit from console and put on maid chains. It CTD?

 

And second question: Are you Khalit or Argorian?

 

 

Yup, it's the Maid Chains.  I loaded up a slightly old save without any significant amount of devices on my character and put them on.  CTD as soon as I put them on.  I'm some variety of human.  Imperial, I think?

I've posted two logs (two different posts).  One of the two had a HDT loading error.  I got rid of the error by redoing some mods, but still got a CTD.

[ChandraArgentis]

2 minutes ago, ChandraArgentis said:

 

Yup, it's the Maid Chains.  I loaded up a slightly old save without any significant amount of devices on my character and put them on.  CTD as soon as I put them on.  I'm some variety of human.  Imperial, I think?

I've posted two logs (two different posts).  One of the two had a HDT loading error.  I got rid of the error by redoing some mods, but still got a CTD.

 

I went slightly nuclear on my bodyslide and rebuilt all of the entries for 'chains' with the no HDT variant and it doesn't crash now.

[Boareo]

21 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Are you using nemesis? If you are, try with fnis only.

Do you know if there might be any other solutions to the issue I'm having?

[zarantha]

7 minutes ago, Boareo said:

Do you know if there might be any other solutions to the issue I'm having?

 

Any errors when running fnis?

Any DAR packs?

 

Do you have other animations that edit walking/running or idles?

[Boareo]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Any errors when running fnis?

Any DAR packs?

 

Do you have other animations that edit walking/running or idles?

 

As far as I know, I have no errors running FNIS as of now.

 

Next question would be what is a DAR pack.

 

Also, on top of this, I've noticed that initially upon spawning in (using the Devious Starts mod) the animations play correctly (for a few seconds) but then default to the T-Pose for both walk and idle stances. Would this suggest that a mod loading after DD is overriding the animation set?

[zarantha]

22 minutes ago, Boareo said:

 

As far as I know, I have no errors running FNIS as of now.

 

Next question would be what is a DAR pack.

 

Also, on top of this, I've noticed that initially upon spawning in (using the Devious Starts mod) the animations play correctly (for a few seconds) but then default to the T-Pose for both walk and idle stances. Would this suggest that a mod loading after DD is overriding the animation set?

 

Usually it's either Nemesis, which is an alternative to FNIS, or yes, something overwriting the animations for DD. 360 Move is a mod that can cause issues with DD animations.

 

Try running FNIS again and make sure that there are no errors. Copy out the entire text where it ran and paste it in a spoiler here if you're not sure.

 

DAR is the new dynamic animation replacer. I've seen mention on one of the DAR mods that the gliding and a few other odd things with animations could be related to not having enough slots for all the packs installed. The animations for this are separate from both FNIS and Nemesis and don't show up in either.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/101371

 

If you're not using DAR mods or Nemesis, and don't know what else may be overwriting the animations, you'll need to take apart your load order. Remove everything except DD and it's requirements, and test again. Slowly add your mods back in until you find what is breaking DD.

[Evikleun]

Does anyone know how to get Devious Device and Nemesis Engine to work with each other? My PC's arms are always out of the armbinder and the yoke does not work unless I crouch down. I tried reupdating Nemesis countless times but it did not solve anything. Are there any workarounds for Nemesis and DD to work with each other or is FNIS the only solution? Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you. 

[Tron91]

1 hour ago, Evikleun said:

Does anyone know how to get Devious Device and Nemesis Engine to work with each other? My PC's arms are always out of the armbinder and the yoke does not work unless I crouch down. I tried reupdating Nemesis countless times but it did not solve anything. Are there any workarounds for Nemesis and DD to work with each other or is FNIS the only solution? Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you. 

Wanna use DD? Dump Nemesis and use FNIS. If you ain't dumping Nemesis, don't complain, since there ain't any solution to be given.

[Banana Banana]

On 6/30/2021 at 10:04 AM, Evikleun said:

Does anyone know how to get Devious Device and Nemesis Engine to work with each other? My PC's arms are always out of the armbinder and the yoke does not work unless I crouch down. I tried reupdating Nemesis countless times but it did not solve anything. Are there any workarounds for Nemesis and DD to work with each other or is FNIS the only solution? Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you. 

I am currently using Nemesis and my DD animations work for the most part, they only break when sprinting. Disclaimer, I am using FNIS and Nemesis together, mainly to get creature animations working. Didn't even realize that Nemesis and DD are not playing nice together either. I came to this thread to troubleshoot DD myself, you could do me a big favor if you try what this post says:

Spoiler

 

After you did that, please do tell me if you have armbinder animations ingame. If yes, please do tell me if they break when sprinting. I need to know if it's the Nemesis-Fnis hackery I am doing, or if something else in my modlist messes it up.

 

---

---

Right, my issue:

 

All DD animations work, except when my character sprints with yokes/armbinders. As it's just the sprinting one, it's not too critical. Still irks me, though. I am using Combat Gameplay Overhaul, which forces me to use Nemesis. Nemesis does not handle creatures, so I have to use FNIS to create the animations for that. Which Nemesis then handles, somehow. (See spoiler above for the procedure)

 

My question is, is there anything known that might break just the sprinting animation? It seems to be really only sprinting, all other animations work fine. Hobbling, walking/running with yokes, armbinders, and hands tied infront all work. Sprinting is really the only one I noticed breaking, which is what confuses me. If CGO would make trouble, it should break more. Maybe one of my other mods?

 

Spoiler

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name

"0001","DLC: HearthFires"

"0002","DLC: Dragonborn"

"0003","DLC: Dawnguard"

"0005","Skyrim_Particle_Patch_for_ENB"

"0006","Static Mesh Improvement Mod"

"0007","B. Noble Skyrim - FULL PACK_Performance Edition"

"0008","NSM - SMIM Patch"

"0009","High Poly Project"

"0010","DynDOLOD Resources SE"

"0015","HD LODs Textures SE"

"0016","Less Ugly Tundragrass"

"0017","Lightweight Water Overhaul - Low Glacial Flour - iNeed Compatible"

"0019","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch-266-4-2-5b-1623727189"

"0021","ENB Helper SE 1.5 for SSE 1.5.97"

"0022","SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)"

"0023","SSE Parallax Shader Fix (BETA)"

"0024","Address Library for SKSE Plugins"

"0025","Papyrus Extender SSE - 4.3.8"

"0027","JContainers SE-16495-4-1-13-1602690897"

"0029","Stay At The System Page - Updated"

"0030","Yes Im Sure"

"0031","Better Jumping SE"

"0032","Player Blink Fix"

"0033","Dynamic Equipment Manager SSE"

"0034","Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice"

"0035","Alternate Silent Voice Files"

"0036","PapyrusUtil SE - Scripting Utility Functions"

"0039","BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v5.3.1"

"0041","Font Overhaul - Natural Typefaces for Skyrim -- FONTS"

"0042","SkyUI_5_2_SE"

"0043","SkyUI Config Tweak - Equipped Items On Top"

"0044","Wider MCM Menu for SkyUI"

"0045","Dear Diary - Paper SkyUI Menus Replacer SE"

"0046","moreHUD SE"

"0047","moreHUD Inventory Edition-18619-1-0-18-1597503354"

"0049","Immersive HUD - iHUD Special Edition"

"0050","More Informative Console 0.43"

"0052","RaceMenu Special Edition v0-4-16"

"0054","A Quality World Map"

"0055","UIExtensions v1-2-0"

"0056","AddItemMenuSE_114_SKSE2019"

"0059","Vanilla Skyrim LOD Billboards"

"0060","Skyrim 3D Landscapes 1.0.6"

"0061","Skyrim 3D Landscapes Groundcovers 1k"

"0062","Skyrim 3D Landscapes BILLBOARDS"

"0063","Skyrim 3D Landscapes Groundcovers Alternative Road Dirt02 1K"

"0064","Cathedral Snow (SSE or VR)"

"0065","Better Dynamic Snow SE"

"0066","Better Dynamic Snow - Patches"

"0067","Better Dynamic Ash SE"

"0068","Blended Roads"

"0069","RIS - Real Ice and Snow"

"0070","RIS - Blended Roads patch"

"0071","Ice Cave Parallax Improved"

"0073","Moss Rocks"

"0075","Whiterun Stores - A Simple Little Clean Up"

"0077","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma SE"

"0078","Beyond Skyrim DLC Integration Patch"

"0079","JKs Cities - Lite and SuperLite"

"0082","Dawn of Skyrim-9074-1-5-1591832820"

"0085","Lanterns of Skyrim SE"

"0086","Ebongrove - Recall and Teleport SE"

"0087","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Tweaks Enhancements and Patches SSE"

"0089","Imperial City LOD fix for custom lods (Beyond skyrim Bruma)"

"0092","Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods"

"0093","Heljarchen Farm - Skyrim Special Edition (Revamped)"

"0095","Alternate Start - Live Another Life-272-4-1-4-1608766947"

"0097","Campfire 1.12.1SEVR Release-667-1-12-1SEVR"

"0098","Simple Campfire Additions"

"0099","Hunterborn SE"

"0100","Hunterborn SE MCM"

"0101","Skills of the Wild - New Campfire Survival Skill Trees"

"0102","Skills of the Wild - NFF Patch"

"0103","Eremite Camping and Combat v2.23"

"0104","Skills of the Wild - Eremite Camping Patch"

"0105","True Hunter - fewer animals per square meter"

"0107","Realistic Ragdolls and Force"

"0108","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended-1988-4-80-1610196777"

"0111","Improved_Camera-1.0_Beta4"

"0112","Improved Camera - INI Tweaks"

"0114","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- CURVY 161"

"0116","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions 21224"

"0118","HDT-SMP for SSE 1.5.97 v2.11"

"0120","CBBE 3BA (3BBB)-30174-2-06-1617621260"

"0121","CBBE 3BBB XMLs (European)"

"0123","Diamond CBBE 3BA Bodyslide"

"0124","Diamond Skin - CBBE and UNP Female Textures SPORTY"

"0126","Natural Skin Tones"

"0127","Feminine Argonian Textures (Chameleon and Lizard) [CBBE]"

"0128","Feminine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard) [CBBE]"

"0130","The Eyes Of Beauty SSE"

"0131","The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition"

"0132","ENB Brow Fix"

"0133","Kyoe's Bang'n Brows"

"0134","Kyoe's Bang'n Brows - Replacement - Male"

"0137","KS Hairdos SSE-6817-1-8-1621841731"

"0138","KS Hairdos - HDT SMP (Physics) 31300"

"0141","SSE_PaintedLady_ColorMatchPubicHairs"

"0142","Hvergelmir's Aesthetics - Beards"

"0143","Realistic Hair Colors"

"0144","Schlongs of Skyrim SE"

"0145","Tempered Skins for Males - SOS Full version-7902-2-06-1601375163"

"0147","SOS NPC Female Pubics v 2.0.3"

"0148","SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil)"

"0151","SOS - Futanari CBBE SSE V1.1b"

"0152","Diamond - SOS - FutaPatch"

"0154","WetFunctionRedux SE"

"0155","WetFunction Redux Male 0.1v"

"0156","WetFunction_1.0_CBBE_texture 1K Optimized By bola08"

"0159","A RaceMenu Preset Collection"

"0160","Skin Feature Overlays SE - Freckles Scars Birthmarks Stretch Marks Moles and More for Face and Body RaceMenu Overlays"

"0161","Raila - A Wood Elf Preset"

"0163","Giant.by.Kajuan"

"0164","HD Pondfish"

"0165","High poly HD Rabbit by Pfuscher"

"0166","ElSopa HD - Strider And Netches SE"

"0167","Realistic Skin And Hair Shaders - Giants"

"0168","RUSTIC DAEDRA - Special Edition"

"0169","RUSTIC SPRIGGAN - Special Edition"

"0170","Skeleton.and.Human.Bones.by.Kajuan"

"0171","Troll.by.Kajuan"

"0172","Wispmother.by.Kajuan"

"0173","Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack"

"0174","SABRECAT.by.Kajuan"

"0175","Mammoth.by.Kajuan"

"0176","Highlandcow HD by Pfuscher"

"0177","RUSTIC FROSTBITE SPIDER - Special Edition"

"0178","Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack (SE)"

"0179","Birds and Flocks SSE Edition"

"0180","CC's HD Dwemer Automatons - Remastered"

"0181","Dragon.Priest.by.Kajuan"

"0182","Draugr.by.Kajuan"

"0183","ElSopa HD - Ants"

"0184","Falmer.by.Kajuan"

"0186","Pretty Female Idles"

"0188","MMG_SwimmingAnimationsV1_1"

"0189","Feminine Jarl Sitting Animation SE"

"0193","1_Combat Gameplay Overhaul-33767-1-1-0-1588173944"

"0194","Nemesis.Unlimited.Behavior.Engine.v0.84-beta"

"0196","Wet and Cold SE v2.4.0"

"0198","Wet and Cold - Fur Hoods Fix"

"0199","Improved Wet and Cold Water Drips"

"0200","RUSTIC ARMOR and WEAPONS SE"

"0204","BD's Armor and clothes replacer CBBE 3BA - V1.42 main"

"0205","BD's Armor and clothes replacer CBBE 3BA - V1.42 update"

"0206","Cloaks of Skyrim SSE"

"0207","Artesian Cloaks of Skyrim"

"0208","Armor Rating Redux SE 17932 - No Cap - Better Formula - Morrowind-like"

"0210","Auto Hide Ammo-1882-4-1-1549932016"

"0211","LLs Invisible Helmets For Player"

"0224","Heels Sound 1.5 SSE"

"0225","RaceMenu High Heels Fixes"

"0226","The Expanded World of Bikini Armors"

"0227","TAWOBA REMASTERED CBBE SE"

"0228","Lazy Bikini Outfits Remastered 0.20.0"

"0230","Nether's Follower Framework - 18076-2-7-7-1622414033"

"0234","A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget"

"0235","Animated Weapon Enchants (A.W.E.)"

"0236","Bad Slaughterfish SSE"

"0237","Better Vampires 8.5 SE"

"0239","Enhanced Blood Textures SE 3.8"

"0241","Falling Gildergreen Petals - SE"

"0242","Flora Respawn Fix SSE - 2.1.3.zip"

"0244","BSHeartlandFRF"

"0245","Footprints"

"0246","HearthFires Display Case Fix SE"

"0247","Immersive World Encounters SE-18330-V3-2-1624090528"

"0249","Linen wrap recipe"

"0250","Lootable Falmer"

"0251","Moonlight Tales Special Edition - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul"

"0252","Moonlight Tales MCM"

"0253","MorrowLoot Ultimate-3058-1-57-1617400874"

"0255","Multiple Floors Sandboxing"

"0256","No BS AI Projectile Dodge (Magic and Arrows) - Immersive Projectiles Nondetection of Enemies"

"0257","Occlusion Culling World Space"

"0258","One With Nature - Dynamic Animals and Creatures SE"

"0259","Ordinator 9.30.1"

"0260","Ordinator Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch-10934-1-02-1589250781"

"0263","Passive Weapon Enchantment Recharging - Enchanted Weapons Recharge Over Time"

"0264","Reading Improves Speech"

"0265","Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO SE"

"0266","RDO - CRF and USSEP Patches Final"

"0268","Reusable Corpses for Necromancy - No Ash Piles"

"0269","Training Dummies and Targets Special Edition"

"0270","The Paarthurnax Dilemma"

"0271","iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep - Continued"

"0273","Sleep.to.Gain.Experience"

"0274","Landscapes - Cathedral Concept"

"0275","Skyrim 2020 2.7 by Pfuscher"

"0276","Skyrim 20202.8 patch"

"0277","Less Dragons 2019 - Beyond Skyrim Bruma (ESL)"

"0278","Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement"

"0281","Expressive Facial Animation -Male Edition-"

"0282","Expressive Facial Animation -Female Edition-"

"0283","The Eyes Of Beauty - NPC"

"0284","Lakeview Manor Bard Replacer Lynette"

"0285","The Men of Winter SSE-10902-V5-3-1588967939"

"0287","RS Children Overhaul"

"0288","Beyond Skyrim Bruma patch-2650-Beta1-01"

"0290","Pandorable's NPCs SE-19012-1-4-1582680071"

"0291","Pandorable's NPCs SE - black face fix"

"0292","Pandorable's NPCs - Dawnguard SE - USSEP"

"0293","Pandorable's NPCs - Dawnguard SE - grey face fix"

"0294","Pandorable's NPCs - Dawnguard - Patches"

"0295","Ethereal Elven Overhaul"

"0296","Ethereal Elven Overhaul patches for SSE"

"0297","Cicero Female SE"

"0298","Pandorable's Serana"

"0299","Vampire Facial Reclamation"

"0300","The Eyes of Beauty - Vampire Eyes SE"

"0301","Improved Eye Reflections and Cube Map"

"0302","NPC Body Scale Randomizer CBBE & 3BBB [Villianize Edit]"

"0305","Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim"

"0306","Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch"

"0307","Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon (Ported by Velgath)"

"0308","Bijin NPCs SE"

"0309","Bijin Warmaidens SE"

"0310","Bijin Wives SE"

"0311","Bijin AIO SE for USSEP"

"0312","Bijin Skin for Bijin Family SE - CBBE"

"0314","Bijin Family - CBBE 3BBB (3BA) Bodyslides-33315-1-1-1598334872"

"0315","Seranaholic by rxkx22 - Ported to SSE by bchick3 and elrizzo"

"0316","SSE Enhanced AI Framework"

"0317","SSE Organic Factions"

"0318","SSE Organic Factions Extension"

"0320","Audio Overhaul for Skyrim SE"

"0321","Compatibility Patch for Enhanced Blood Textures"

"0322","Enderal Music for Skyrim Special Edition"

"0323","Realistic Conversations"

"0324","Enhanced Draugr FX"

"0325","More Painful NPC Death Sounds SE"

"0326","Serana Dialogue Edit - Skyrim Special Edition"

"0328","Luminosity Lighting Overhaul - The Cathedral Concept"

"0329","Cathedral Weathers and Seasons"

"0330","Rudy HQ - More Lights for ENB SE - Bthardamz"

"0331","Rudy HQ - More Lights for ENB SE - Chaurus Eggs and Sacs"

"0332","Rudy HQ - More Lights for ENB SE - Soul Gems"

"0333","Enlightened College of Winterhold"

"0334","Reduced Mist Brightness"

"0335","ENB Light"

"0337","Adult Slideshow in Loadscreens - NSFW"

"0338","Realistic Skin Shaders - Falmer and Hagravens"

"0339","SexLabFrameworkSE_v163_BETA8"

"0340","Devious Devices SE & VR 5.1"

"0342","DD 4.3 AIO 3BA Bodyslide Files 1.0.1"

"0343","DD_DCL_New_CBBE"

"0344","SLAL_SE"

"0345","SexLab sslAnimationSlots 2000 29112020"

"0346","SL Defeat SSE"

"0347","SexLab Dialogues 20200630SSE"

"0349","SexLabAroused Redux V28b SSE Modified by BakaFactory(2020 11 17))"

"0351","SexLab Inflation Framework"

"0352","SLIF 3BBB Lists"

"0353","SkyrimStrapOns_CBBESSEBodyslide"

"0354","Creature_Schlongs_SE__1_0"

"0355","MoreNastyCritters_v12_5SE"

"0357","Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2A-SE"

"0359","Texture Canine MNC v11.4C"

"0360","Horse fix for MNC SE"

"0361","SexLab Aroused Creatures SE v04.06"

"0365","EstrusForSkyrimSE_VR"

"0366","Estrus Alternate Sounds"

"0367","Estrus Chaurus V4.37se"

"0368","SexLabParasites"

"0370","Estrus-Chaurus-Spider-Addon v4.342-5"

"0373","ED DDI Patch"

"0375","ES DDI Patch"

"0376","ECS SSE Netimmerse scale patch"

"0377","SexLab Attraction SE v1.0"

"0378","SexLab EagerNPCSERev2"

"0379","SexLab Dangerous Nights 2 Mushano's cut SE v2.4.4"

"0383","Arousal Based MatchMaker SE 2.2.6"

"0384","SexLab Aroused Monitor Widget SE"

"0387","ZaZ Animation Pack+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3"

"0389","Fertility Mode"

"0390","Fertility Mode v3 Fixes and Tweaks"

"0391","Quick Light SE"

"0394","SLHH Expansion English SE 3.44V"

"0395","Patched SE SL TOOLS Updated"

"0396","GenderBender_SE"

"0397","SexLab Solutions v3 - Revisited SE v1.1.5"

"0400","Fill Her Up Baka Edition English SE 1.552V"

"0404","Cumshot 2.2 - Installer for LE and SE"

"0405","SexlabAmmoUnequip"

"0406","Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life"

"0407","ImmerSlave"

"0408","Devious Devices Helpers SE v1.04.9"

"0409","HornyCreaturesofSkyrim_V1_27"

"0411","Devious Captures SE v2.9.0.002 (converted by Roggvir)"

"0412","Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0"

"0414","DCL 3BBB Bodyslide"

"0416","Devious Followers - Continued SE v 2.14.4"

"0420","SD Customization Addons SE v7"

"0421","Sexlab Sanguine Debauchery enhanced 20210531SE"

"0422","Sexlab Sanguine Debauchery enhanced resources"

"0423","SexLabDragonsV3"

"0425","BakaFactory Animated Beasts Cocks 225"

"0428","Sexy_Bandit_Captives_SSE_v0"

"0429","AmorousAdventures 3.4 SE"

"0430","Amorous Adventures Extended SSE v1.2.3"

"0434","SexLab Kidnapped Redux SE v4.1.1.2"

"0436","Further Lovers Comfort SE-v1.0.1"

"0437","Sex Lab - Sexual Fame Framework SE V0.99"

"0439","SLSFFameComments v2.1 SE"

"0441","SexLabStories 20210531SE"

"0442","SexLabStories-Deviousv20210531SE"

"0443","SexLab Approach Redux 1.802 English SE"

"0444","SexLab Relationship Dialouge System SE v2.3Beta"

"0446","SLAL SH Furniture anims V2.01"

"0447","SLAL_Pack MasterMike"

"0448","SLAL SE Creature Animations by Sailing Rebel (SRB) v02.0"

"0449","SLAL ProxyAnims SE v2.2"

"0450","MilkySLAL-1-8"

"0451","K4_anims-1.5SE"

"0452","SL - Ayasato Animations 1.1 SLAL SSE"

"0453","rydin_animations_slal_pack_v0.5a"

"0454","AsBooAnims"

"0455","MitosAnimationPack"

"0456","GuffelAnimationPack"

"0457","ArrokAnimationPack"

"0458","FUNNY BIZ'S RAPE REDUX fix"

"0459","3jiou-SE-19-12-2019"

"0460","Anub H 3.2020SE"

"0461","Anub C 3.2020SE"

"0462","Anub F 1.2020SE"

"0463","Babo C 2021.05.10 SE"

"0465","Babo Human 2021.01.09 SE Fix"

"0467","Billyy's SLAL Animations 4.5"

"0469","DogmaMods-SE-23-12-2019"

"0470","FBSLALPACK v12.0SERev1"

"0471","SLAL FunnyBizPack CB_1.2"

"0472","SLAL_AnimationsByLeito_v1.6SE"

"0475","SLAL_mike24_Animations SE"

"0476","nazonootoko-SE-14-06-2017"

"0477","NCK30 SLAL 2.6 SE"

"0480","PsycheAnimation SE 1.1.6V"

"0481","SLAL NibblesAnims 5.81"

"0483","SlalZnaroksPack3.0(SSE)"

"0485","blackface fixes selfmade"

"0486","DynDOLOD-Scripts.2.82"

"0487","DynDOLOD-DLL-SE.1.5.97"

"0490","TexGen_Output"

"0491","DynDOLOD_Output"

"0492","FNIS Output"

"0493","Bodyslide Output"

"0494","Nemesis Output"

 

 

EDIT: Managed to resolve it myself. Did a complete clean rebuild of my animation files, as described in that post I linked. Works now.

Edited July 2, 2021 by Banana Banana
Resolved

[Pfiffy]

Is there a full BHUUNP sliderset for DD 5.1?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Pfiffy said:

Is there a full BHUUNP sliderset for DD 5.1?

 

This is the only set I'm aware of. Haven't checked it out myself.

 

 

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, Banana Banana said:

All DD animations work, except when my character sprints with yokes/armbinders. As it's just the sprinting one, it's not too critical. Still irks me, though. I am using Combat Gameplay Overhaul, which forces me to use Nemesis. Nemesis does not handle creatures, so I have to use FNIS to create the animations for that. Which Nemesis then handles, somehow. (See spoiler above for the procedure)

 

You'd need to test without nemesis and the nemesis mods, using FNIS only to determine if it's a DD + other mod issue or if it's nemesis. All that we know is that nemesis doesn't play nicely with DD and several animations are messed up. Some people claim it works ok, but the issues reported far outstrip the ones saying it works, which may just mean those folks haven't  run into an issue *yet*.

 

You can try these steps here - this person manually downloaded the current files (not from releases) to get the templates.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3335685

 

[zarantha]

On 6/30/2021 at 4:04 AM, Evikleun said:

Does anyone know how to get Devious Device and Nemesis Engine to work with each other? My PC's arms are always out of the armbinder and the yoke does not work unless I crouch down. I tried reupdating Nemesis countless times but it did not solve anything. Are there any workarounds for Nemesis and DD to work with each other or is FNIS the only solution? Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you. 

 

You should also try these steps to see if it helps:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3335685

 

Note: We aren't supporting Nemesis here. FNIS is the only supported method for animations.

Edited July 1, 2021 by zarantha

[Boareo]

On 6/30/2021 at 12:41 AM, zarantha said:

 

Usually it's either Nemesis, which is an alternative to FNIS, or yes, something overwriting the animations for DD. 360 Move is a mod that can cause issues with DD animations.

 

Try running FNIS again and make sure that there are no errors. Copy out the entire text where it ran and paste it in a spoiler here if you're not sure.

 

DAR is the new dynamic animation replacer. I've seen mention on one of the DAR mods that the gliding and a few other odd things with animations could be related to not having enough slots for all the packs installed. The animations for this are separate from both FNIS and Nemesis and don't show up in either.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/101371

 

If you're not using DAR mods or Nemesis, and don't know what else may be overwriting the animations, you'll need to take apart your load order. Remove everything except DD and it's requirements, and test again. Slowly add your mods back in until you find what is breaking DD.

 

I disabled basically every mod that was non DD or CBBE related and the issue was still prevalent. 

 

Spoiler

 

I'm wondering if the question mark for SexLab framework idles might be the issue, although I haven't modified those files, and downloaded the 1.63 SE beta version. I'm also tempted to try a fresh install of SSE and reapply the mods, see if that works. 

[zarantha]

45 minutes ago, Boareo said:

 

I disabled basically every mod that was non DD or CBBE related and the issue was still prevalent. 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I'm wondering if the question mark for SexLab framework idles might be the issue, although I haven't modified those files, and downloaded the 1.63 SE beta version. I'm also tempted to try a fresh install of SSE and reapply the mods, see if that works. 

 

Those are fine. If you read the 'readme' underneath them, it basically says it may not detect right in 1st person. If you switch to 3rd person, those should show ok. Those particular question marks are expected and can be ignored in most cases. If they are still question marks in 3rd person, then you've got something screwed up in FNIS.

 

Have you deleted the generated FNIS output files and tried rerunning FNIS with only those mods installed?

What mod manager are you using?

 

What are you considering DD and CBBE related mods? I'm expecting something like this with a new game for testing:

ussep

sexlab

sexlab aroused

dd

fnis

fnis output

lal / alternate start mod

bodyslide output - you shouldn't need to regenerate this, just use what you had before, without cbbe or bodyslide enabled/installed.