S_L_U_T_S Redux

[JahReit]

4 hours ago, mEdge said:

I doubt any of this is an intentional effect of @MrEsturk's mod, since he's very clearly mentioned his dislike of bestiality on the main page of the Mod.

DISCLAIMER: this is all in fun, not a serious post.

Come on, really believe that?  Dress a girl in a pony outfit making her a mare and don't think a stallion won't mount her?  Talk about suspension of belief.  ?  In the game,  with humans we call that rape, with animals we call it nature. So rape is fine but nature is wrong?  

[Seeker999]

It's not my preferred playstyle, either. I try to disable dogs, horses, etc. The only times my ride tried to ride was when I was a pony. I wouldn't say it was due to an increased exposure, not at all. I haven't spent that much time as a pony. It was almost as if my horse recognized me as another horse. I'm guessing this is probably due to a combination of settings and mods used. I could be wrong -  it happens. IMO, nothing to worry about one way or another.

[Reesewow]

12 minutes ago, Seeker999 said:

It's not my preferred playstyle, either. I try to disable dogs, horses, etc. The only times my ride tried to ride was when I was a pony. I wouldn't say it was due to an increased exposure, not at all. I haven't spent that much time as a pony. It was almost as if my horse recognized me as another horse. I'm guessing this is probably due to a combination of settings and mods used. I could be wrong -  it happens. IMO, nothing to worry about one way or another.

If you use a mod that triggers sex scenes based on vulnerability (nudity/wearing devices/no weapon ect) then you may be triggering it over and over on cooldown as a pony girl and your horse is the only thing around to jump your bones.  I'd look into whatever mod is triggering these scenes if you didn't want them to happen, they most certainly aren't a result of something this mod is doing specifically.

[MrEsturk]

3 hours ago, JahReit said:

DISCLAIMER: this is all in fun, not a serious post.

Come on, really believe that?  Dress a girl in a pony outfit making her a mare and don't think a stallion won't mount her?  Talk about suspension of belief.  ?  In the game,  with humans we call that rape, with animals we call it nature. So rape is fine but nature is wrong?  

Well on a more serious note the stallion may not be sentient enough to be a rapist but the woman herself would still be getting raped as she's been forced into an aggressive, non-consensual sex act. Also simply throwing a couple of horse like costume props on a human female wouldn't be enough to get a horse interested in her. She still lacks the pheromones, body language and various other subtle cues that would trigger the stallions breeding instincts. And if not getting buggered by a horse is the only thing messing with your suspension of disbelief in a mod as absurd in its base concept as this one....

 

And just to reaffirm it I find bestiality gross and won't be touching the subject. I know you said you were just joking around and not to be taken too seriously but: believe it.

[JahReit]

2 hours ago, MrEsturk said:

Well on a more serious note the stallion may not be sentient enough to be a rapist but the woman herself would still be getting raped as she's been forced into an aggressive, non-consensual sex act. Also simply throwing a couple of horse like costume props on a human female wouldn't be enough to get a horse interested in her. She still lacks the pheromones, body language and various other subtle cues that would trigger the stallions breeding instincts. And if not getting buggered by a horse is the only thing messing with your suspension of disbelief in a mod as absurd in its base concept as this one....

 

And just to reaffirm it I find bestiality gross and won't be touching the subject. I know you said you were just joking around and not to be taken too seriously but: believe it.

I understand completely and respect your position.  I also have taboo subjects that aren't acceptable in life nor game. ff, mm is the biggie.  Not only totally unacceptable, gross and stomach turning, but completely ridiculous to me, nature, evolution, GOD, gods, major religions, and mammals in general.   Rape, murder, theft, slavery, cannibalism, bestiality, etc, in a game is fine with me, NOT in real life.   

PS.  I enjoy your mod and am thankful you are continuing it.  Great content.  Thanks and keep up the good work.

[S4WDU5T]

3 hours ago, JahReit said:

completely ridiculous to me, nature, evolution, GOD, gods, major religions, and mammals in general.

While you, any deities, and their attendant belief systems are free to set and follow whatever tenets you/they like, on the ff/mm issue at least - nature, evolution, and (not only) mammals in general stand in disagreement. 

 

...the animal kingdom engages in homosexual behavior "with much greater sexual diversity – including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex – than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept."

 

No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all.

 

How you feel is how you feel, own it, the argumentum ad verecundiam really doesn't work when half your list is demonstrably opposed to your position ?

 

Enjoy your game, enjoy your life, let others do the same.

 

 

@MrEsturk

 

Judging by the last handful of posts, other mods seem to have the "Horny Horses" events well-covered already anyway, those that want that can add those other mods to their mix as they like, without making yet another obscure MCM setting ("which mod is doing that?!") to have to track down and disable for those that don't. ?

[MrEsturk]

On 5/31/2018 at 5:05 PM, Maho said:

Great job with reviving mod. It's one of my favorites.

One thing though. I was never a fan of the yokes. They are kind of big and ugly. Armbinder support would be nice.

Or even better support for the amputator framework. This would work well with the s_l_u_t_s rehabilitation program, to make it even more of a punishment.

Working on adding armbinders/handcuffs as Yoke options. As I've stated before way back on this topic at an obscure point you couldn't possible be expected to have known look up (?) I think amputation would be a bit out of character for this mod. The dispatchers are more trollish than just straight forward cruel (More Sheogorath than Mogal Bal if you will). And of course the question comes up: you finished your haul: what do you do about your missing arms? Anyways a preview:

 

 

EDIT: I've recoded the way the MCM system replaces pieces of gear to use formlists instead of armor arrays. To put it simple: armor arrays required a clean save to add new gear options and formlists don't. Yay, if you won a bunch of filly gear and don't want to give it up just to access the new gear options you won't have to?

 

18 hours ago, MetZwerg said:

I would really appreciate the seperation of ste Drink/Food and the Sleep Dialogue...

Yeah, I've been playing hooky a bit with this mod (Needed a break to stop modding Skyrim and actually play Skyrim, as anyone who checked this topic might have noticed, lol). Going to get back to work which includes splitting that dialogue.

[MrEsturk]

Alright expanded the tail plug options to in include the bell and sign chains if you'd rather use them instead of a horse tail (The "none" option also still exists of course):

 

Once the next release comes out if someone wants to create a better sign text texture be my guest. The body harness is just something my character got locked in during a quest unrelated to S_L_U_T_S.

 

[_SpaceHamster_]

5 minutes ago, MrEsturk said:

Alright expanded the tail plug options to in include the bell and sign chains if you'd rather use them instead of a horse tail (The "none" option also still exists of course):

 

Once the next release comes out if someone wants to create a better sign text texture be my guest. The body harness is just something my character got locked in during a quest unrelated to S_L_U_T_S.

  

The more options the better  

 

Speaking of body harnesses, and excuse me if this has been brought up before, but was there ever the idea to include a body harness as part of the S_L_U_T_S attire?
Since there is in fact a "S.L.U.T.S. Harness of Conscription" item in game.

+ the description says its gets equipped on girls that "have been volunteered" instead of have volunteered.

 

[MrEsturk]

Alright I split the dialogue options for rest and food/drink. I also changed the drink to milk from Hearthfire, since this mod already required the other two expansions anyways and Hearthfire is dirt cheap to buy. Going to run a final test tommorrow, but for now very tired and must sleep. Also got to distribute my resume to a few potential employers tommorrow. Busy, busy...

[SleepyJim]

Having hired the carriage drivers for some vanilla trips between cities recently (weird, I know) it occurred to me that some of their vanilla dialogue would make for amusing comments when they send you on your way for a S_L_U_T_S run. Sending you off with a spoken "Woah," "Giddy-up," or even just a "Couldn't ask for better weather," might be a nice touch if it's doable.

[Nymra]

Ops
Thank you. Now in the correct thread:

 

1. Cart broken:
The thing is, I am not even dieying. In fact my char never dies. 
The issue with the broken cart occurs always after the cart goes airborn when "picking it up" and then persists. 
I will try the recycleactor command thing. 

2. Alternate Transport method
The cart is nice, but it also comes with some problems IMO.
Apart from getting broken, it often behaves strange when going "offroad". 
Also, it is in the way of a lot of sexlab animations, which leads to very awkward clipping. 
Repositioning the sexlab sexscene did not help since the cart seems to be teleported to the new scene location. 

A backpack solution could look nice too and as I said, it would just be nice as an alternative.
At the moment I am even wondering if I just "build" the solution myself and then just teleport the cart to me when I reach the destination to circumvent the broken cart issue, hehe. 

3. Combat:
I will be honest, I just hate it when mods do stuff that other mods already provide, so you have to A. find out what causes the problem and then B. often have no way of changing that.
The Option in devious devices for bound combat should be perfectly solid, since DD is a requirement for Sluts anyway. If you wont change it, maybe add the option at least in sluts too. I dont know why that would be a problem. I know people like to be "bound" by the game itself, but I learned the hard way that beeing bound to an engine that can explode anytime is not really that fun

For example, I just could not get rid of some encounters on the street (Defeat problem. I disallowed female aggressors and so I could not get rid of a single female aggressor. Had to use godmode or kill the damned girl off with the console. Killed the mood ) Running that NPC over with the cart also did not work

In the end its still the Dragonborn and your feet can move relativly free. BOund combat only provides kicks (at least it does for me), so I think it would be perfectly cool.

 

The mod in general is very nice. I like the tattoo system, the devices and how you aquire dirt on the road. 
It just was a pain in the ass to find mods that work well alongside sluts.

Sexlab Sumbit is a broken mess it seems (Opponent does not accept your surrender, lol... for real? Do I need to max speechcraft now just for that? ^^ also the escape mechanism kinda breaks for me all the time)... Defeat is not updated for quite some time and has a lot of issues still. Deviously helpless does not fire often enough and Deviously helpless adds that stupid rope armbinder after every encounter and sometimes just breaks. 
With a more updated "combat defeat rape mod" Slut would also improve a lot I think. 

 

[Alpia]

Did you ever think about implementing riding styles into the mod? The mod got some updates lately and could be used to provide an optional alternative transportation mod.

 

[Reesewow]

30 minutes ago, Deoxyribonucleic_acid said:

Did you ever think about implementing riding styles into the mod? The mod got some updates lately and could be used to provide an optional alternative transportation mod.

 

If you mean the latest update in regards to registering new races and animations for mounts, it would be really cool if the system was robust enough to do SLUTS themed things like having wagons as mounts or npcs giving other npcs piggy-back rides.  I haven't tried that mod yet but I've been watching it forever hoping for a stable version, and it sounds promising so far.

 

In terms of the current content of Riding Styles however - as reiterated by the author in this very page SLUTS will not include bestiality, so I'd seriously doubt the current Riding Style mounts would be implemented in any way shape or form.

[Nymra]

48 minutes ago, Deoxyribonucleic_acid said:

Did you ever think about implementing riding styles into the mod? The mod got some updates lately and could be used to provide an optional alternative transportation mod.

 

Would be totally awesome.

 

What I really miss is a mod that gives the PC a devious form of travalling between the cities. 
In Slaverun Reloaded the cart drivers make a stop while on travel, where the player pays for the journey...

 

I would love to have a mod where you can chose a different travel method with a cart driver.

 

Like this:
- Travel to target hold for money (classic way)

- Travel to target hold while a SLUTS pony girl (improvement for the current sluts mod, where you can pick the target yourself and just save the money for the cart travel)

- Travel to target hold via devious riding styles.

 

And for sluts itself:
the already mentioned packed pony girl would be a lovely alternative to the buggy cart (even when the cart is ofc awesome and should stay. Just provide MCM options maybe)

Or the suggested method of using riding styles even in combination with the cart maybe... while I get the feeling that this will cause a lot of problems.

I also dont know how defeat, submit, enslaved mods work with riding styles, but I dont thing they will do nicely... would require some testing, tho.

 

[mEdge]

@MrEsturk Is there any possibility of the PC permanently joining a stable of ponygirls to service clients and carriage drivers? Seems like a somewhat natural conclusion of the service. Outside of content from other mods, S.L.U.T.S is a bit light on it's own in-built sexual content.

[Nymra]

14 minutes ago, mEdge said:

@MrEsturk Is there any possibility of the PC permanently joining a stable of ponygirls to service clients and carriage drivers? Seems like a somewhat natural conclusion of the service. Outside of content from other mods, S.L.U.T.S is a bit light on it's own in-built sexual content.

very nice idea
maybe connected to the slavery part of SLUTS? The pony girl could be locked in a stable or chained somwhere to serve for special guests, carriage drivers and the like before beeing chained to the next cart for a delivery.

 

 

[MrEsturk]

3 hours ago, Deoxyribonucleic_acid said:

Did you ever think about implementing riding styles into the mod? The mod got some updates lately and could be used to provide an optional alternative transportation mod.

 

Ehhhhh.... no thanks.

[_SpaceHamster_]

36 minutes ago, MrEsturk said:

Ehhhhh.... no thanks.

Someone must've forggoten you're not a fan of bestiality  

 

3 hours ago, mEdge said:

@MrEsturk Is there any possibility of the PC permanently joining a stable of ponygirls to service clients and carriage drivers? Seems like a somewhat natural conclusion of the service. Outside of content from other mods, S.L.U.T.S is a bit light on it's own in-built sexual content.

I like quit like this idea as well. It would be nice to have some other content in the mod instead off ponying up and travelling from town to town all the time with the occasional hobble dress at the end.

 

I'm in favor for this. I completely understand if you feel this doesn't fit in the mod  

[MrEsturk]

4 minutes ago, SpaceHamst3r said:

Someone must've forggoten you're not a fan of bestiality  

Well I expanded on a ponygirl mod so I brought it on myself I guess ?‍♂️ Will probably be getting such request till the end of time from people who either didn't read the fine print or think they'll win me over somehow.

 

4 minutes ago, SpaceHamst3r said:

I like quit like this idea as well. It would be nice to have some other content in the mod instead off ponying up and travelling from town to town all the time with the occasional hobble dress at the end.

 

I'm in favor for this. I completely understand if you feel this doesn't fit in the mod

Its not that I'm opposed to this but if I'm going to be adding more quests I'd rather focus on new delivery mission type content. While not necessarily ponygirl centric there are already tons of mods on this site that involve the player being locked away and used a fuck toy.

[MrEsturk]

1 minute ago, mEdge said:

I didn't say a think about bestiality being involved in the original post. If I did, you're welcome to quote it.

I think he was saying he'd understand if it turned out I was also opposed to adding stable lockup content, which I'm not outside of a priority context. His comment about bestiality was directed toward's Deoxyribonucleic_acid's suggestion.

[mEdge]

38 minutes ago, MrEsturk said:

Well I expanded on a ponygirl mod so I brought it on myself I guess ?‍♂️ Will probably be getting such request till the end of time from people who either didn't read the fine print or think they'll win me over somehow.

 

Its not that I'm opposed to this but if I'm going to be adding more quests I'd rather focus on new delivery mission type content. While not necessarily ponygirl centric there are already tons of mods on this site that involve the player being locked away and used a fuck toy.

That much is true, but most of them are buggy, half-finished, boring affairs with no overriding theme beyond sex unlike this mod.

Either way, you call the shots. I respect whatever you do choose to add.

[mEdge]

6 minutes ago, MrEsturk said:

I think he was saying he'd understand if it turned out I was also opposed to adding stable lockup content, which I'm not outside of a priority context. His comment about bestiality was directed toward's Deoxyribonucleic_acid's suggestion.

I reread and realized that I had a bad reaction from lazy, reactive reading. Original comment should be deleted. Poor reaction on my part.

[Reesewow]

1 hour ago, MrEsturk said:

I think he was saying he'd understand if it turned out I was also opposed to adding stable lockup content, which I'm not outside of a priority context. His comment about bestiality was directed toward's Deoxyribonucleic_acid's suggestion.

I *think* one possible non-bestiality merit of Deoxy's suggestion is that the latest update to that mod seems to indicate it can act like a framework for other "mounts" added by 3rd party mods.  I assume this could possibly mean things that aren't creatures, unlike the current examples in that mod so far.  So SLUTS could possibly use it as a way of adding rideables that aren't necessarily as crude as a pony girl stuck on a horse dong.  I'm almost positive that it would require efforts in the realm of animation work however, so even if possible I doubt that it would be something you'd want to get into unless you had a really strong idea for it.

 

Of course that's completely based on my reading of the patch notes - I haven't had a chance to try the mod out myself recently to actually say if that is correct.

[Hex Bolt]

14 hours ago, MrEsturk said:

Alright I split the dialogue options for rest and food/drink. I also changed the drink to milk from Hearthfire, since this mod already required the other two expansions anyways and Hearthfire is dirt cheap to buy. Going to run a final test tommorrow, but for now very tired and must sleep. Also got to distribute my resume to a few potential employers tommorrow. Busy, busy...

Unless I've missed something, Hearthfire is no longer available to buy.  It seems that Besthesda wants to force people to Special Edition, which I'm unwilling to buy.  So while it might have seemed like a minor change to include Hearthfire as a requirement, it does break the mod for those like me who never saw a need for that DLC.  So as it stands, I'm locked out of any future versions of this mod. 

 

MrEsturk, please reconsider the decision to add Hearthfire as a requirement.  There must be another way to satisfy those who need food or drink without adding a new mod dependence.