Zaz Animation Pack V8.0 plus

[Veladarius]

8 hours ago, donkeywho said:

 

I have no problem with any of that, and he can decide to do whatever he likes.  So be it

 

And If you look back at my posts here, and on other threads, I've supported t.ara in many respects, I have admired and encouraged his efforts, whilst also trying to help BOTH sides see some way to work together

 

My problem is specifically with this para:

 

'Why?

In one fact-sentence:

Kimy is only interested into her own advantage (probably also profit-dependent)  and without compromises to everybody.'

 

If it's a translation error, fine, he can say so.

 

But otherwise, I'm old school, and that's an unconscionable accusation at worst, slight at best, and it would be good mannered to wiithdraw it

 

But this is the Internet, we play Skyrim, and we're on LL.  We're probably all a bit bonkers ?

 

Have fun

 

EDIT:

 

I also meant to say that if t.ara is as kind as delete that comment, either by editing it out, or completely, all my comments relating to it, as would only be right and proper, shall also be disappeared

 

 

Kimy is only interested in what she can grab for DD and DCUR and doesn't care about what other people think unless it aligns with her views. While doing some looking at stuff about the Heretic items I came across a post from Saturday saying she intended to take some of t.ara's items and put them into DD as she believed that they came under the same permissions as ZAP v7.

 

CGi and several others attempted to work with her about doing something to make ZAP and DD compatible since all ZAP references have been removed from devices making them somewhat incompatible with ZAP furniture but she was not interested at all (I was in the same conversation with Kimy and t.ara) and instead announced that she was creating her own furniture and animation resource for DD (likely from ZAP resources).

 

T.ara is not wrong on this.

[EinarrTheRed]

1 hour ago, t.ara said:

What I´m doing?

I´m very busy on the "Tangled" - Mod - don´t worry, it will be very cute:-)

 

Well smack her bottom and call me curious! ???

[t.ara]

 

 

THE PROTECTION PLAN OF ZAP

 

As in between I put a huge bunch of my own work into ZAP, it´s here the right time to protect the pack for the future.

 

I want the pack to stay unique and not be anymore a recource, that can be torched and beeing exploited into different other parts or particial contence of other mods. 

Past arguments against a dependency, zap may be too big for some users, too heavy for others are not realistic, instead it´s only stuff that fills the computer-disk-space with meshes and textures, nothing else. Lot of other stuff is side by side increasing in size and those mods become more and more heavy. With ZAP it is a little different. The framework has been always the same and runs like under version 6. The contence is like always BDSM-orientated AND also is ZAP offerering "some" furnitures, (in between more than 300! with over 1000 pick´n´play ready to go texture versions), and also some nice standard furnitures, that can be used to create a more rich gameplay inside the cells, by using vanilla animations together with vanilla furnitures.

 

My work may have helped against letting ZAP "bleed out" as it became after years again more interesting with more contence.

 

I write this down for you, because I got a private message and different another requests for a "translate-permission" or/and putting the mod onto other /on to  foreign pages. Another stuff of mine has been "picked off" loversLab and also got shared on a different page without any request !! Things like that kept on in repetition and some modders do even make their profit with work of others and the work of mine!!!

This I can not anymore tolerate, sorry! If I get it, that someone is doing this again, I´ll do that same way with him/her. (this was not with zap, this happened with another mod of mine.)

 

I want to let loverslab to be the only page in future, where you can download this  mods as an origin. This will also keep LL to be the NO.1 - address  for this sort of mods with the 18+ rule/barriere -  to protect the youth. I can´t therefore check out other pages and follow the whole ways, the (a) mods will take, if it is once "away" and who will finally be the addressors / consumer of the mod(s).

 

In future  (8/8+ and with version 9),  I don´t agree anyone to share any parts of the contence into other mods to protect the ZAP as a complete resource.......

ALL 26 furnitures of the older pack v.7.0 got their change properly to the alignment of the modern xp32 skeleton by groovtama for skyrim. If those furnitures look like before or not, they are modified by myself and I´m not anymore willed to particulary loose them or give somebody other the chance to make money with this free work-no way!! Same will be for all other items of the pack. If you want a specific animation, don´t grab it from my versions!!!, you should keep then only to the old version, so that you  might have suddenly not an item , that I have changed myself. If somebody will not follow to my request here, I´ll inform the admins. LoversLab should be a page of free modding, but some people here around canalize this rule (by sponsoring) and do make money with contence of others. It´s by the way NOT allowed, to make money with mods, that are created by the creation-kit!

It can´t be true that the team of zap has spend free work now for others who do now use their stuff and get sponsored for that...this is HARD on the edge - and I do not like this kind of developement on this page and I hope that all of you can understand this problem.

 

(This plan is not not for the old versions 6.11 and V. 7.0 - following the wish of zazChris and of the community to have zap as another sort of resource, to let zap to become disassembled into different parts - those modders, who can not create own items have herewith their chance.

 

If a modder wants an item of 8/8+ or higher, (s)he can make the pack a dependency or let it away-I don´t mind.

If it´s like in the example of which I did it with VIRGIN MARIE when she gave me a personal request, I (mostly) do agree to create something suiting for her mod, like I did it. In the case of ZAIRA´s MARIA EDEN , I gave the permission to use the stuff he likes and needs and what he wants for his mod to put it int ZEP - that´s all fine and serious;-)

Same has been between KIMY and me, those HDT wrist-cuffs were a present. Kimy can also put hands on the older versions 6.11 and V.7.0. But not higher !!

For the wrist-cuff I await a serious CREDIT on front of the DDe-page, you (Kimy) please put also ZaZ there with me, because he showed me how to do it!!!, thank you:-)

 

ZAP is of course a collection of lot of work of a bunch of authors and I did take care now for a while and would like to keep it together and as long I add contence and work on it, the work of all of us should be protected, same way like all other mods are "protected" on this page.

 

I do not see a reason, to "translate" this pack into other "languages"....(..) - I do not see any need of this. One form of (U)UNP and CBBE - version should suit to all demands and wishes. Zap 8 got also adopted to Skyrim SE, as well as possible. I can not imagine that the next version will find the way into SE, as there are lot of new items, that can´t be converted by automatism-it will become a very long-time lasting manual job on single items. But I will give my permission, if wanted.

 

I also can imagine, that zazChris would agree herewith my opinion, as he in his modding time here had his same rules - if not, all parts of his work would have been picked away into a bunch of mods without any basis,  I fairly can not imagine such a thing!! BUT that team (zaz/xaz) created the framework specially in that way to be able to add contence in the future with ease, it´s a very lucky circumstance and it has been a wise step from this authors!!!! And this property must let this pack to have a special state of protection planing: - ZAP may run through the hands of different modders in future (as long it can expand, depending on technical limits).

 ZAP is protecting and housing for example also the work of WHIPPIN´GIRL and NOSDREGAMON, who could create only a few furnitures, in NOSDREGAMON´s case it is quite a lot of furnitures with also different, and new animated objects. The rule is here the same, respect the author´s right, please. I know all the items, because I have build them in. 

There are also lot of things from oblivion imported, but they got changed and it always takes some time, to bring such existing stuff from a different game into another one.

I added for example the "human seats" from oblivion and it was a LOT OF WORK, TO DO SO !!! - 3 days: with over 10 hrs work on one single file a day! 

 

I don´t be able to participate all the contence-belonging author´s rights and permissions. zazChris did allow the loversLab community to pick away parts of the mod (v6 and v7) to everybody, what s(he) likes. But this has been after he did not invest any more work.

Me,  I see that I must now protect the pack in one whole part (again) as there is a huge amount of my personal work inside. 

This pack is something very unique and very special, within or "under the hood" (of) this fine internet-page (LoversLab). I want to keep it as one useful and interesting mod for free.

 

 

 

No items can be removed from version 8, 8+ and higher to put into other mods, other platforms or elsewhere! 

 

 

-if a modder wants an item/furniture/animation, please ask me and I will try to create it or make a custom one!

-if a modder wants  furnitures or animations from version 6/5/7, s(he) need not to ask me, that Versions are free for everyone!

-if any material /contence of this of my work and other work of mine (other mods) is lost on other pages, or gets part for making money, ...!!

 

 

 

p.s...for the normal user of this pack, this thread entry is not important, it´s only important for modders, who do not understand, which parts of the new versions I made. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[snarfies]

39 minutes ago, t.ara said:

I do not see a reason, to "translate" this pack into other "languages"....(..) - I do not see any need of this.

Not a fan of those filthy foreigners, I take it?  Like, would it shock you to learn that there are people out there who don't use English as their native language?

[Supertin]

 

THE PROTECTION PLAN OF ZAP

 

As in between I put a huge bunch of my own work into ZAP, it´s here the right time to protect the pack for the future.

 

I want the pack to stay unique and not be anymore a recource, that can be torched and beeing exploited into different other parts or particial contence of other mods. 

Past arguments against a dependency, zap may be too big for some users, too heavy for others are not realistic, instead it´s only stuff that fills the computer-disk-space with meshes and textures, nothing else. Lot of other stuff is side by side increasing in size and those mods become more and more heavy. With ZAP it is a little different. The framework has been always the same and runs like under version 6. The contence is like always BDSM-orientated AND also is ZAP offerering "some" furnitures, (in between more than 300! with over 1000 pick´n´play ready to go texture versions), and also some nice standard furnitures, that can be used to create a more rich gameplay inside the cells, by using vanilla animations together with vanilla furnitures.

 

My work may have helped against letting ZAP "bleed out" as it became after years again more interesting with more contence.

 

I write this down for you, because I got a private message and different another requests for a "translate-permission" or/and putting the mod onto other /on to  foreign pages. Another stuff of mine has been "picked off" loversLab and also got shared on a different page without any request !! Things like that kept on in repetition and some modders do even make their profit with work of others and the work of mine!!!

This I can not anymore tolerate, sorry! If I get it, that someone is doing this again, I´ll do that same way with him/her. (this was not with zap, this happened with another mod of mine.)

 

I want to let loverslab to be the only page in future, where you can download this  mods as an origin. This will also keep LL to be the NO.1 - address  for this sort of mods with the 18+ rule/barriere -  to protect the youth. I can´t therefore check out other pages and follow the whole ways, the (a) mods will take, if it is once "away" and who will finally be the addressors / consumer of the mod(s).

 

In future  (8/8+ and with version 9),  I don´t agree anyone to share any parts of the contence into other mods to protect the ZAP as a complete resource.......

ALL 26 furnitures of the older pack v.7.0 got their change properly to the alignment of the modern xp32 skeleton by groovtama for skyrim. If those furnitures look like before or not, they are modified by myself and I´m not anymore willed to particulary loose them or give somebody other the chance to make money with this free work-no way!! Same will be for all other items of the pack. If you want a specific animation, don´t grab it from my versions!!!, you should keep then only to the old version, so that you  might have suddenly not an item , that I have changed myself. If somebody will not follow to my request here, I´ll inform the admins. LoversLab should be a page of free modding, but some people here around canalize this rule (by sponsoring) and do make money with contence of others. It´s by the way NOT allowed, to make money with mods, that are created by the creation-kit!

It can´t be true that the team of zap has spend free work now for others who do now use their stuff and get sponsored for that...this is HARD on the edge - and I do not like this kind of developement on this page and I hope that all of you can understand this problem.

 

(This plan is not not for the old versions 6.11 and V. 7.0 - following the wish of zazChris and of the community to have zap as another sort of resource, to let zap to become disassembled into different parts - those modders, who can not create own items have herewith their chance.

 

If a modder wants an item of 8/8+ or higher, (s)he can make the pack a dependency or let it away-I don´t mind.

If it´s like in the example of which I did it with VIRGIN MARIE when she gave me a personal request, I (mostly) do agree to create something suiting for her mod, like I did it. In the case of ZAIRA´s MARIA EDEN , I gave the permission to use the stuff he likes and needs and what he wants for his mod to put it int ZEP - that´s all fine and serious;-)

Same has been between KIMY and me, those HDT wrist-cuffs were a present. Kimy can also put hands on the older versions 6.11 and V.7.0. But not higher !!

For the wrist-cuff I await a serious CREDIT on front of the DDe-page, you (Kimy) please put also ZaZ there with me, because he showed me how to do it!!!, thank you:-)

 

ZAP is of course a collection of lot of work of a bunch of authors and I did take care now for a while and would like to keep it together and as long I add contence and work on it, the work of all of us should be protected, same way like all other mods are "protected" on this page.

 

I do not see a reason, to "translate" this pack into other "languages"....(..) - I do not see any need of this. One form of (U)UNP and CBBE - version should suit to all demands and wishes. Zap 8 got also adopted to Skyrim SE, as well as possible. I can not imagine that the next version will find the way into SE, as there are lot of new items, that can´t be converted by automatism-it will become a very long-time lasting manual job on single items. But I will give my permission, if wanted.

 

I also can imagine, that zazChris would agree herewith my opinion, as he in his modding time here had his same rules - if not, all parts of his work would have been picked away into a bunch of mods without any basis,  I fairly can not imagine such a thing!! BUT that team (zaz/xaz) created the framework specially in that way to be able to add contence in the future with ease, it´s a very lucky circumstance and it has been a wise step from this authors!!!! And this property must let this pack to have a special state of protection planing: - ZAP may run through the hands of different modders in future (as long it can expand, depending on technical limits).

 ZAP is protecting and housing for example also the work of WHIPPIN´GIRL and NOSDREGAMON, who could create only a few furnitures, in NOSDREGAMON´s case it is quite a lot of furnitures with also different, and new animated objects. The rule is here the same, respect the author´s right, please. I know all the items, because I have build them in. 

There are also lot of things from oblivion imported, but they got changed and it always takes some time, to bring such existing stuff from a different game into another one.

I added for example the "human seats" from oblivion and it was a LOT OF WORK, TO DO SO !!! - 3 days: with over 10 hrs work on one single file a day! 

 

I don´t be able to participate all the contence-belonging author´s rights and permissions. zazChris did allow the loversLab community to pick away parts of the mod (v6 and v7) to everybody, what s(he) likes. But this has been after he did not invest any more work.

Me,  I see that I must now protect the pack in one whole part (again) as there is a huge amount of my personal work inside. 

This pack is something very unique and very special, within or "under the hood" (of) this fine internet-page (LoversLab). I want to keep it as one useful and interesting mod for free.

 

 

 

No items can be removed from version 8, 8+ and higher to put into other mods, other platforms or elsewhere! 

 

 

-if a modder wants an item/furniture/animation, please ask me and I will try to create it or make a custom one!

-if a modder wants  furnitures or animations from version 6/5/7, s(he) must not ask me!

-if any material /contence of this of my work and other work of mine (other mods) is lost on other pages, or gets part for making money, ...!!

 

 

 

p.s...for the normal user of this pack, this thread entry is not important, it´s only important for modders, who do not understand, which parts of the new versions I made. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You know I try to stay out of these debates as much as I can, but sometimes there's just a point where it gets laughably ridiculous. There's so much bullshit right here.

 

 

I looked through the entirety of Zap 8.0 and apart from a handful of things, perhaps the bodyslide items (like the rope items) and the animations for the newer furnitures, I have an extremely hard time finding anything that you actually made yourself. Pretty much everything else is built from either existing assets from the vanilla game, existing assets in zap (7.0 and prior) or elsewhere. And even more ridiculously on top of that there are meshes and texture from oblivion in your version of Zap, but more on that a little later.

So how do you even intend to enforce closed permissions on all the assets you used and didn't make yourself and have zero rights over? Just curious you know.

 

Well, then about the meshes and texture that you ripped from Oblivion. Maybe you should have a talk with the Skywind Team, who ran into some trouble with Bethesda quite a while ago because they used assets from Morrowind. They had to remove all of them and recreate them from scratch to not get shut down by Bethesda.

Basically you are breaking Bethesda's Eula by porting assets from one of their games to another. And yes that includes porting between bethesda's own games.

Obviously it's not very likely will ever find out about this as this is not large-scale enough project that they would give a shit. Certainly not without anyone informing them anyways.

But who in their right mind would willingly depend on a framework that rips assets en mass and could potentially get shut down because of it.

Long story short, unless you are re-creating these assets from scratch you can't include them. (How long it takes to port an asset is also quite irrelevant to this.)

 

It's also funny because you brought up people benefitting monetarily from creating mods and Bethesda not allowing such things. This is a much more grey area than you think it is. And certainly much more grey, than you taking assets from Oblivion to port them into Skyrim. That, in a very straightforward way, is something that actually prohibited by Bethesda.

 

I also don't think you should be dragging Zaz into this, unless you made good with him in a private conversion. He didn't speak very highly of you in one his currently last posts on LL, which is also the only reason v6 got updated to 7.0.

[typoking1107]

...So there will still be support for male characters with your models right? Cause that's really all I care about.

[ff7sephiroth]

Hey there, excuse the newb question but if i want to play the new Maria eden ( the upcoming  2.5 one) which of the 3 new packs should i install? Or should i install all 3 of them? (zaz animation pack, zaz plus and tara furniture pack) Because when i installed the previous versions i think i messed up something and i get x poses in 70% of the furniture added. ( i did run FNIS). Excuse me but my English are not so good so i couldn't understand if i only need zaz plus or all the 3 packs to have all the items in the game. Thanks.

[Psalam]

32 minutes ago, ff7sephiroth said:

Hey there, excuse the newb question but if i want to play the new Maria eden ( the upcoming  2.5 one) which of the 3 new packs should i install? Or should i install all 3 of them? (zaz animation pack, zaz plus and tara furniture pack) Because when i installed the previous versions i think i messed up something and i get x poses in 70% of the furniture added. ( i did run FNIS). Excuse me but my English are not so good so i couldn't understand if i only need zaz plus or all the 3 packs to have all the items in the game. Thanks.

I don't KNOW your answer but Zaira and T.ara have always been good about posting any requirements. T.ara has said that his is working with Zaira to include ZAP furniture in the mod. Knowing T.ara he may build it directly into Maria Eden making it unnecessary to upgrade your ZAP. In any case all of us simply have to wait for Zaira to tell us. I know the eagerness of waiting for a new version of a favorite mod (oh man have I been there) but we all simply have to wait. It is likely that neither T.ara nor Zaira know yet. Finally, since we are on the ZAP site - T.ara has pointed out, on many occasions, that ZAP is backward compatible. If you load ZAP 8.0+ into you game with mods that require 7.0 it should work just fine. So simply stay up to date here.

As to the last part ZAP 8.0+ contains everything in ZAP 8.0 and in TUFP. It is likely that combining them did cause problems. T.ara gave this information to Musje in her Home Sweet Home thread and I believe she has posted it on the home page for that mod. If not, it is in her thread within the last month or so. My advice, as I said, is to ignore all the older stuff and simply load ZAP 8.0+. Having said that, Zaira has implied that he wants to use ZEP (Zaz Extension Pack, another of Zaira's mods) for Maria Eden. As I also previously said, this means we need to wait for the release and follow the requirements precisely.

[ff7sephiroth]

20 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I don't KNOW your answer but Zaira and T.ara have always been good about posting any requirements. T.ara has said that his is working with Zaira to include ZAP furniture in the mod. Knowing T.ara he may build it directly into Maria Eden making it unnecessary to upgrade your ZAP. In any case all of us simply have to wait for Zaira to tell us. I know the eagerness of waiting for a new version of a favorite mod (oh man have I been there) but we all simply have to wait. It is likely that neither T.ara nor Zaira know yet. Finally, since we are on the ZAP site - T.ara has pointed out, on many occasions, that ZAP is backward compatible. If you load ZAP 8.0+ into you game with mods that require 7.0 it should work just fine. So simply stay up to date here.

As to the last part ZAP 8.0+ contains everything in ZAP 8.0 and in TUFP. It is likely that combining them did cause problems. T.ara gave this information to Musje in her Home Sweet Home thread and I believe she has posted it on the home page for that mod. If not, it is in her thread within the last month or so. My advice, as I said, is to ignore all the older stuff and simply load ZAP 8.0+. Having said that, Zaira has implied that he wants to use ZEP (Zaz Extension Pack, another of Zaira's mods) for Maria Eden. As I also previously said, this means we need to wait for the release and follow the requirements precisely.

Ah i see. Thanks for the help. To clarify the real issue was that i wast sure if zap plus was a all in one pack since when i installed it i only got x poses for the new furniture , aka the furniture animations were not working , so i wanted to get this right for the next release. Thanks much.

[jigwigigx]

I installed 8+ not too long ago, why are 4 packs on the update list, is there anything new or just some text editing going on?

[EpicStore2020]

Hello, im having a issue with a zbf punishment cane, all my followers weapons are being replaced by this item upon every single load of the save, please help

[jigwigigx]

18 minutes ago, CodeName404 said:

Hello, im having a issue with a zbf punishment cane, all my followers weapons are being replaced by this item upon every single load of the save, please help

The cane replaces a low grade weapon like the iron dagger.  It's actually a much better weapon for them to have but you can always give your follower something else.

[EpicStore2020]

44 minutes ago, jigwigigx said:

The cane replaces a low grade weapon like the iron dagger.  It's actually a much better weapon for them to have but you can always give your follower something else.

i'm assuring you that i gave Serana a really OP weapon, legendary tier with enchants then i load the game up and i see her wielding something else XD

[t.ara]

6 hours ago, Supertin said:

 

 

You know I try to stay out of these debates as much as I can, but sometimes there's just a point where it gets laughably ridiculous. There's so much bullshit right here.

 

 

I looked through the entirety of Zap 8.0 and apart from a handful of things, perhaps the bodyslide items (like the rope items) and the animations for the newer furnitures, I have an extremely hard time finding anything that you actually made yourself. Pretty much everything else is built from either existing assets from the vanilla game, existing assets in zap (7.0 and prior) or elsewhere. And even more ridiculously on top of that there are meshes and texture from oblivion in your version of Zap, but more on that a little later.

So how do you even intend to enforce closed permissions on all the assets you used and didn't make yourself and have zero rights over? Just curious you know.

 

Well, then about the meshes and texture that you ripped from Oblivion. Maybe you should have a talk with the Skywind Team, who ran into some trouble with Bethesda quite a while ago because they used assets from Morrowind. They had to remove all of them and recreate them from scratch to not get shut down by Bethesda.

Basically you are breaking Bethesda's Eula by porting assets from one of their games to another. And yes that includes porting between bethesda's own games.

Obviously it's not very likely will ever find out about this as this is not large-scale enough project that they would give a shit. Certainly not without anyone informing them anyways.

But who in their right mind would willingly depend on a framework that rips assets en mass and could potentially get shut down because of it.

Long story short, unless you are re-creating these assets from scratch you can't include them. (How long it takes to port an asset is also quite irrelevant to this.)

 

It's also funny because you brought up people benefitting monetarily from creating mods and Bethesda not allowing such things. This is a much more grey area than you think it is. And certainly much more grey, than you taking assets from Oblivion to port them into Skyrim. That, in a very straightforward way, is something that actually prohibited by Bethesda.

 

I also don't think you should be dragging Zaz into this, unless you made good with him in a private conversion. He didn't speak very highly of you in one his currently last posts on LL, which is also the only reason v6 got updated to 7.0.

This is no debate any more, no discussion, it´s the existing copyright for my personal material, same for all modders, who put also their work here inside of zap 8 and higher to protect it against making money or canalizing the material still to different other mods, platforms and who pick it off this page !!!

(colours do point to my suiting answers-this is my last explanation about this, it´s boring and not necessary to answer on different opinions about this question any longer)

 

This is exactly the nonsence I ´m not willed to discuss in detail. If even there is only a piece of wood from skyrim, it is formed and beworked and made to be a furniture or a new clutter. No furniture I created is in oblivion or inside of skyrim ready to go.  You can go ahead and stay on zap 7.0 if you don´t SEE my work and not respect it !!! Thousand of new formed items and thousand of unique animations are added. Forget your statement-this needs not to be discussed here. This of your statement is very much respectless !!

 

The meshes of oblivion are mainly grabbed from the zap-team in the past: all the original zap 5,6,7 parts are from oblivion and skyrim and were created as easy as possible to become furnitures. First of all the cuffs, then the gibbet-cages, then the rack, then the torture post and so on (all those are created inside of the old zap). BTW, you really have no idea what it means to create even from that stuff furnitures with new animation and make it playable for the game.

You CAN´T fool here the readers with wrong agruments. You can yourself create new furnitures in a mod and simply create useful stuff. Nobody hinders you. Do it.

There´s no element in this mod, that is out of legits of bethesda. In first line it is for free, in second line are the meshes prepared to work inside of skyrim, so that skyrim is again more interesting to be played. This mod is not making MONEY, it´s a part of my hobby and not comercial-BUT it is protected against robbery with including sponsoring or moneytising, UNDERSTOOD??? If you don´t agree, step ahead and play differnt stuff, create your own mod and don´t mix here., please!

 

So you can´t understand my english and turn around arguments that way, so that it looks like I make money with this mod???  You should read more carefully about what I have talked about, sorry - I think you have difficulties with your translation tool.

 

I do not have any influence on the zap 6 and 7. And there´s no right to lock them against beeing exploited. By the will of zazChris I respect this and those packs are a complete different thing. If you personally have a contact with ZaZ him, you can send me a p.m. and connect me to him personally, but I guess that he / they don´t appear here anymore, or don´t like to log in anymore, pity.

The reason for the update of 6 to 7 has been the incompatibility with FNIS. And beside then, the pack got some new keywords for supporting Maria Eden more better. And Zaira changed some bugs away of the framework. You have no correct overview what happened exactly.

The version 8 and higher is a massive different thing and I created it mainly for myself and then it became to be officially for download. I don´t think, that in between there are any  existing differences between me and zazChris. He always wanted to have zap compatible downwards !! his most sensitive wish, and he wanted to be sure, that the pack will stay in it´s tradition and I think that it is exactly perfect, what I build up inside that mod. To be in differences with another peron, must btw. not mean to hate that person:-) - this is often "human like", but i have explained my point of view in the overall tutorial of my versions. Read it !!! I made mistakes in the past and I regret that.

 

 

In conclusion, if you do not feel comfortable with this, you simply don´t use this version. There are ALL possible options, to create new stuff (excluding stealing!!) based on the existing material of different games to create more contence for skyrim-this is all fine. As long they are not "moneytized" or sponsored mods, go have a good to go and you are then creating art in an accepted  way.

 

If you can´t understand me, I can of course write this also in my language, but I´m sure that it can be understood very well.

A translation system may be also causing errors and also could be wrong and deform an existing information.

 

 

p.s. The way of modding and porting stuff from different other bethesda games into skyrim is accepted by bethesda, as bethesda is of course watching here and on nexus, what is happening, for sure! 

 

 

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, ff7sephiroth said:

Ah i see. Thanks for the help. To clarify the real issue was that i wast sure if zap plus was a all in one pack since when i installed it i only got x poses for the new furniture , aka the furniture animations were not working , so i wanted to get this right for the next release. Thanks much.

No ZAP8+ is an all-inclusive (to this point, ZAP9 appears to be coming) mod. It is designed to be a modder's resource, however, and functions best when another mod, Like Maria Eden or Home Sweet Home, requires ZAP and then adds the resources themselves. That said, you should be able to add furniture and use it with console commands (at least that's what T.ara says, I've only tried it once).

[t.ara]

1 hour ago, jigwigigx said:

I installed 8+ not too long ago, why are 4 packs on the update list, is there anything new or just some text editing going on?

Hello;-)

as far I remember, you can pick between CBBE and UUNP.

Download the LINK and open the text-file and follow it´s link.

In between I also have the impression, that MEGA is not the best address for putting an upload.

I´ll think about a new way, maybe google-drive.

I´m thankful for a suggestion with which it is possible to stay anonym.

[t.ara]

3 hours ago, ff7sephiroth said:

Hey there, excuse the newb question but if i want to play the new Maria eden ( the upcoming  2.5 one) which of the 3 new packs should i install? Or should i install all 3 of them? (zaz animation pack, zaz plus and tara furniture pack) Because when i installed the previous versions i think i messed up something and i get x poses in 70% of the furniture added. ( i did run FNIS). Excuse me but my English are not so good so i couldn't understand if i only need zaz plus or all the 3 packs to have all the items in the game. Thanks.

with maria eden, you use the stuff of zep then, nothing else needed. the furnitures for ME will be integrated to zep. If zep´s new version is not harming any other of those mentioned resources then, I suggest to take zap 8 plus, but read about on the ME page please. For ME I´d personally would like, that ZEP would be able to run aside all other stuff and probably it will. This is NOT for the existing ZEP, who overwrites parts of zap!!! This is meant to be for updates!

[t.ara]

1 hour ago, CodeName404 said:

Hello, im having a issue with a zbf punishment cane, all my followers weapons are being replaced by this item upon every single load of the save, please help

Hello, nice!...

this seems to be a mismatch between different mods. I do not have any ecperiences with this phenomena.

Maybe you can show the modlisting(hidden), so other here around might help you!

[worik]

1 hour ago, t.ara said:

I can of course write this also in my language

Just to make sure, I propose that you do that. It might not be easy for everybody to understand what you really want to say, if english is not your native language.

Add it to the modpage, so everybody can have a look at that too. Plus your own translation.

?

 

 

Edit:

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In between I also have the impression, that MEGA is not the best address for putting an upload.

Yes, looking for an alternative would be nice. It doesn't hurt as a backup copy if it costs you no money,but otherwise it's simply #/&%$ ? for people like me.

 

 

EditEdit: (sorry for the mess crappy latency issues on my end)

1 hour ago, t.ara said:

I´m thankful for a suggestion with which it is possible to stay anonym.

How about splitting the various segments up until they fit into the LL size limit and make LL the primary location? 

"Splitting up" in the meaning of logical separatable sub-packages like Veladarius does it with the CD shop? 

  

You could keep the offsite copies for everybody who would like to save Ashal some bandwiith

[Delzaron]

It's an extension for ZAZ, or a new version of ZAZ 8.0 ?

 

How it's stable ? Your furnitures seems amazing, i wish to use them in my mods.

[t.ara]

16 minutes ago, worik said:

Just to make sure, I propose that you do that. It might not be easy for everybody to understand what you really want to say, if english is not your native language.

Add it to the modpage, so everybody can have a look at that too. Plus your own translation.

?

 

Edit:

Yes, looking for an alternative would be nice. It doesn't hurt as a backup copy if it costs you no money,but otherwise it's simply #/&%$ ? for people like me

Thanks, but I think the most important rule has been updated inside the mod´s area and I got professional help for this. In the thread here, it is possible, that I may produce mistakes, I try to explain as well as I can, it´s a good practice. I do not like to translate it again or tell it same way again on german.

[t.ara]

8 minutes ago, worik said:

How about splitting the various segments up until they fit into the LL size limit and make LL the primary location? 

"Splitting up" in the meaning of logical seperatable sub-packages like Veladarius does it with the CD shop? 

 

You could keep the offsite copies for everybody who would like to save Ashal some bandwiith

My UPLOAD to loverslab is far too slow. 

[EpicStore2020]

49 minutes ago, t.ara said:

Hello, nice!...

this seems to be a mismatch between different mods. I do not have any ecperiences with this phenomena.

Maybe you can show the modlisting(hidden), so other here around might help you!

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
MiasLair.esp
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
daymoyl.esm
EFFCore.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
ElementalArrows.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
DeviousFramework.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenu2.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Sanctuary Reborn.esp
NewMerge2.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
TheEvilMansionFE.esp
AuroraVillage.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
RemoveEssentialPatch.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
PathOfSorcery.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
SkyUI.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp
Broken Angel Armor.esp
CCF_RND_Patch.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
DD - Interactions.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Elisif Makeover.esp
FISS.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
Grimy Utilities Interface.esp
HeartBreaker.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
Magicka Sabers.esp
Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
N7 Assassin's Creed Armor.esp
Phenderix Energy Consumption.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuMimic.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Real Flying.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseasesCheckNeedsPL.esp
ScarletDawnArmor.esp
SexLab Brawling Rape.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLabTools.esp
ShadowSpellPackage.esp
ShadowSpellPackage_DragonbornStaffCrafting.esp
ShadowSpellPackage_PathOfSorceryPatch.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
SkyTweak.esp
SL Deadly Drain.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
SpellChargingFramework.esp
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
VioLens.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp
TexturesPack_PL.esp
Path of Shadows.esp
ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
Simple Slavery Defeat.esp
Nami.esp
PrincessHDT.esp
SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
AzuraHouse.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
RiversideLodge.esp
zNightMistressMansion.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
METraining & Auctions.esp
buildablehouse.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
SL Sleeping Necro.esp
NewMerge.esp
MistySkye.esp
Colorful_Magic.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp
SpellResearch.esp
BikiniMaidenFull.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
Thornrock.esp
Teleport.esp
MoonAndStar_AuroraPatch.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
CaranthirTowerReborn.esp
Club Riften.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
Sexual Vampire Feed.esp
SpellComboV2.esp
StripNPCs.esp
TrissArmorRetextured.esp
TwinSoulsExpandedLevels.esp
ScopedBows.esp
EeveeFox.esp
Phenderix Tool - Teleports.esp
ssapbwk.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
blood magic.esp
RavenCastle.esp
GemstoneLegacy.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
Teleport-DG Plugin.esp
Plasma Blades.esp
Mysticism.esp
NewMerge1.esp
Portals of Skyrim.esp
Gifts Of The Outsider.esp
Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp
Immersive Speechcraft.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
Teleport-DB Plugin.esp
UniversalArmor.esp
RRC_MercyFollower.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
Dovakini.esp
KittFollower.esp
000_DarkbloodSanctuary.esp
Maria.esp
DarkEnvoy.esp
Artemisia.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
Aethernautics.esp
Ravengate.esp
DWCool_HON_followers.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
TyraFollower.esp
Mass effect Biotic spells.esp
vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
Mion.esp
Scarlett.esp
Black Widow.esp
Ellierosa.esp
TERA Weapons.esp
Avril.esp
Atom Bomb.esp
SororityGirlsOfSkyrimByAsherz.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Jormundandr Dragon.esp
FNISspells.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Merta Assassin Armor.esp
Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
Phenderix Tool - Spell Edit.esp
Phenderix Tool - Weapon Edit.esp
Rias_HS_DXD_Asherz.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
Tofbik Followers.esp
Delphin Present_DragonBallStaff.esp
CBBCelestialNinja.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
DBZmods.esp
DragonAspectToggle_DAT.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
DD_GW_Mark2.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
PoS More Apocalypse Patch.esp
PoS Apocalypse Patch.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
Serenity.esp
FallFromGrace.esp
AkilaByAsherz.esp
FNIS.esp
Ace Blood Magic.esp
Nightingale Prime remaster.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
ElementalArrows.esp
GKFollowers2.esp
Velestra.esp
NoLights.esp
GK-Vampire.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp
da_alternate_start_extension.esp
ImmerSlave.esp
 

here it goes

[t.ara]

34 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

It's an extension for ZAZ, or a new version of ZAZ 8.0 ?

 

How it's stable ? Your furnitures seems amazing, i wish to use them in my mods.

Hello, Delzaron;-)

 

It´s an update of zap 7 and it should be working fine instead as whole part in exchange with version 7.

I do not have any technical problems with the pack. For it´s check, you could install the pack on a test-partition.

You can also tell me, if you want specific items only, or if you need something "special"/or customized stuff.

 

Zap 8 + has again more contence and comes with more animations as we have in version 8 .

 

The next version is in progress and I hopefully can suit with that version to all your demands and wishes.

Please keep in mind that I do not change the mechanics of the pack. The pack gets instead more contence to play with.

[Psalam]

32 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

It's an extension for ZAZ, or a new version of ZAZ 8.0 ?

 

How it's stable ? Your furnitures seems amazing, i wish to use them in my mods.

ZAP8+ is an extension of ZAP8. It has all the furniture/animations/etc. of ZAP8 plus more (that is the plus). In my experience it is extremely stable. As T.ara has repeatedly pointed out it is backward compatible. So, If you want to play an older mod which lists ZAP7 as a requirement, ZAP8+ will also function perfectly. While it is a large file (see T.ara's notes on his problem with uploading it) it is extremely flexible. ?