Devious Followers (8 June 2019)

[CGi]

Just now, Lozeak said:

run Fnis on update

But that's exactly what the FNiS generator file V1.703 ships with does.
it replaces vanilla animations like run, walk, sneak & idle:
AAset _mtidle 1
AAset _mt 1
AAset _mtx 1
AAset _sneakidle 1
AAset _sneakmt 1

[Lozeak]

42 minutes ago, CGi said:

What's with the animation files? Do we really need them? Most are already scraping on the limit of animations their game can take and the FNiS file doesn't look like it's in a working state.

 

It's a crawling animation. 34 animation of 9k limit used.

 

People scraping that limit are people that want every mod under the sun installed.

 

I have 350+ Sexlab animation DD + ZAZ + ZEP and have 7k animation so I still have 2k-3k animation slots left and I feel if I got bored of those sexlab animation instead on just adding more and more maybe I'll remove the few I don't like.

 

[Lozeak]

14 minutes ago, CGi said:

But that's exactly what the FNiS generator file V1.703 ships with does.
it replaces vanilla animations like run, walk, sneak & idle:
AAset _mtidle 1
AAset _mt 1
AAset _mtx 1
AAset _sneakidle 1
AAset _sneakmt 1

 

AAset means (i think) alternate animation set so yes the Alternate animation do replace the vanilla animations like run, walk, sneak & idle when it's called via a script.

 

Also you missed the top line which is the prefix you use to call the animation set. 

 

Thinking about it there is a chance FNIS sexy move might call it .... adjust it's MCM setting?

 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, CGi said:

This is an FOMOD for easy installation using NMM, Vortex or MO.

CGi, should the BSA file that you provided really be named CreatedBSA.bsa rather than DeviousFollowers.bsa?

[Lozeak]

5 minutes ago, Lozeak said:

Thinking about it there is a chance FNIS sexy move might call it .... adjust it's MCM setting?

 

Tested with new game FNIS sexy move doesn't seem to either so. Likly if it's happening for no reason it's because someone didn't run FNIS.

[GeorgiaCav]

I installed this without realizing it needed DD 4.1. I'm still using 4.0 because of the animation limit. The mod seems to work, but what am I going to be missing if I continue down this ill-advised path?

[steelmagpie]

3 hours ago, Lozeak said:

run Fnis on update

Always do .. but as you suggested later I do have a LOT of animations installed and run FNIS v7.4.5 XXL and have the 750 anim boost for sexlab too..   It could well be an over animation thing if no one else encounters it..  Sexy Move is installed too but deactivated as it was a non dependant requirement for something or other,, just needs to be there but can be inactive.

 

Thanks for looking into it as always,,  No one can fault you dedication to fixing any possible problems..  Still loving the mod and eagerly add updates when released..  Keep fixing it and I am sure I will keep finding ways to break it haha... 

 

 

Update Edit...

I think the trouble is in my save as a new game no crawl idle..  Clean install and clean save trying a days old save and Crawl is still there,,  New game with same character (just to keep as similar as possible) and no crawl idle..

 

Simple solution start new game (never a problem for me haha) .. 

 

Thanks again for looking into it.. 

[SkyAddiction]

I installed this without realizing it needed DD 4.1. I'm still using 4.0 because of the animation limit. The mod seems to work, but what am I going to be missing if I continue down this ill-advised path?

 

A few animations and devices. May or may not break your game, though since I seem to recall you're one of the few who ran DD and ME together, you're also probably one of the few who is used to working with major incompatibilities.

[supergodman5]

In the requirements section I don't see any mention of DLCs. When I install it I get a CTD on startup and LOOT says this mod requires DLC. Am I missing something?

[RoflArmageddon]

Hey

 

The new feature of being able to set how far a deal can go is brilliant, but would it be possible to change it so you can toggle each specific stage.

Just for the Corset Gloves Boots and gag deal, I love gloves (i use mittens) and boots (i use slave ring boots) and i love gags, but i hate the corset or harness, it would be nice if i could disable stage one of the deal so i can still have stages 2 and 3?.. 

PS: Great job, this is easily one of my favourite mods for skyrim ?

[Kalthen]

7 hours ago, CGi said:

Devious Followers V1.69.6 (Stable) & 1.703 - Cleaned, USLEEP Patched and Localized

 

This is an FOMOD for easy installation using NMM, Vortex or MO. The folder structure follows the Bain standard for easy manual installation or with Wrye Bash.

Full German translation included. All vanilla languages have most of their vanilla entries translated but only in the localized plugin.

USLEEP is NOT a dependencie of any of the contained plugins.

 

Content:

- Localized and Unlocalized plugin,

- EFF patch,

- Optional Source Scripts,

- Optional MO support,

 

Note:
More loose files to spare FNiS from having to read the animations from inside a BSA archive.

 

Download:

Devious Followers V1.69.6 (Stable) (16.0 MB)

Devious Followers V1.703 (16.4 MB)

 

 

@Lozeak What's with the animation files? Do we really need them? Most are already scraping on the limit of animations their game can take and the FNiS file doesn't look like it's in a working state.

Hi CGi thx agian for the update. I noticed there where some textures missing in this version. A saw it first on the whore sign. I didn't check the bsa. I just added the loose ones from Lozeak. 

 

Just to keep in mind for the next one.

 

Sorry wegen der deutschen Version. Ich teste am liebsten in ENG. Nur bei ME Tests stelle ich komplett auf DE um.    

[CGi]

7 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

CGi, should the BSA file that you provided really be named CreatedBSA.bsa rather than DeviousFollowers.bsa?

Forgot to rename it. My bad. -.-'

1 hour ago, Kalthen said:

Hi CGi thx agian for the update. I noticed there where some textures missing in this version. A saw it first on the whore sign. I didn't check the bsa. I just added the loose ones from Lozeak.

Ya... wrong BSA name.

[Black Justicar]

Lozeak  , can you please make some kind of an automatic lockout (DF pause) on SD+ enslavement? Cause, i think, many people love both of this mods. 
And can you please add "Lock MCM settings" option, after X debt, like in DFW, or in DCL, or in Devious Keysmiths or in Devious Key Anticheat, for hardcore lovers?

You did not answered me first time. Will post it again, sorry.

[Kalthen]

Ok, I can't figure out why the crawling animation won't work. FNIS looks fine, no errors. No PCEA or SexyMove. MO looks fine, no errors, nothing is overwirtten. TES5Edit looks fine. It has to happen on the actual effect. Am I missing a keyword when the armor is put on so the effect doesn't trigger??? Is SD hogging the effect? 

 

Is anyone having the same trouble?

[Kalthen]

It has to have something to do with the petsuit not getting the effect. The jarl quest is almost making me quit. It's like a total dead end on the whole palace.

...Ohh well that's what testing is for. ... I just had to teleport a npc out of the palace, pay off the piercing deal and talk to him outside. Then add 1000g debt via mcm and retake the deals.

 

I see three solutions for the jarl quest:

1. Make it end inside the palace once the guards are finished.

2. Add a gag to hamper speech. Gag game

3. Make it optional via MCM

[Reesewow]

1 hour ago, Kalthen said:

It has to have something to do with the petsuit not getting the effect.

If the petsuit crawl animation isn't working, that is probably a DD install problem, not a DF bug.  Are you sure you have both DD Integration AND DD Expansion updated to 4.1?  The new items like the petsuit are part of DDX but I believe all the animations are included in DDI.

[Teddar]

I like some of the deals more than others. Could it be possible in the future to pick the deal you want to sign up for from some kind of list? That way, i could chose to be whored out without having to stack all the other deals before i can get to that one? Cheers! ?

[GeorgiaCav]

12 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

A few animations and devices. May or may not break your game, though since I seem to recall you're one of the few who ran DD and ME together, you're also probably one of the few who is used to working with major incompatibilities.

LOL! True.

[eggsalad]

Played around with this for a while, thought I'd report some minor stuff I noticed. Sorry if some of these are well known.

 

• Deal chastity belt seems to be missing the permit anal property, so the anal scenes from the denial games get blocked. Also looks like a closed belt is used for the model. Fortunately I could just remove it and switch to a generic open belt as a temporary fix.
• You can get the chastity deal before the vaginal piercing and anal plug deals, which will prevent you from equipping the piercing/plug, so you just keep getting punished for not wearing them. I guess you can chalk it up to your follower being really evil, expecting you to play the key game to unlock the belt just so you can equip your new accessories, which will probably end up costing you more than you got from the deal. On a side note, I'm kinda disappointed that the DD framework doesn't just allow you to equip and unequip anal plugs through open belts, since it breaks my immersion when it remains equipped during a belted anal scene, but I guess there's some complicated reason for it.
• Gag deal feels way too punishing, even by the standards of this mod. Any NPC I talk to just rips it off, leading to more debt as punishment, which adds up to insane amounts very quickly. While you could just try to avoid talking to anyone, it's damn near impossible to make money to pay off your debts without access to merchants or ...clients. And being discouraged from talking to anyone kinda ruins the fun of some of the other deals that involve talking to random people. While other deals stack up and gradually makes it harder to regain your freedom, gag deal alone just seems to instantly rob you of any hope of recovery. It's even worse if you're using a mod that adds hunger or thirst, not a huge deal, I just expected more compatibility with survival mods since you added compatibility for Frostfall. And another minor issue is that you can't sell potions while gagged, since the DD framework just hides things you can't consume from your item menu, a bit of a downer if you were hoping to pay off some debts with your alchemy income. So while my main complaint would be solved by toning down the frequency of NPCs ripping off the gag, I'd really prefer if you just switched to a panel gag. Would look sexier too.
• Would be nice to see your dice roll during the denial games. How do I know my follower even rolled a die in the first place? Wouldn't surprise me if she's just been pretending to give me a chance all this time.
• Never seen any of the city deals trigger after accepting them, whether through spending time in a city or entering one. Does it check really infrequently, or am I missing something?
• This is really nitpicky, but it looks like there's at least one deal I haven't been offered yet, because I don't want to spoil the fun by looking up how to trigger it. This really feels like the kind of mod that's great to have on while playing normally and just seeing what happens, instead of intentionally trying to trigger all the content. So I hope you'll keep making content that's accessible while playing normally.

[Teddar]

38 minutes ago, eggsalad said:

Played around with this for a while, thought I'd report some minor stuff I noticed. Sorry if some of these are well known.

 

• Deal chastity belt seems to be missing the permit anal property, so the anal scenes from the denial games get blocked. Also looks like a closed belt is used for the model. Fortunately I could just remove it and switch to a generic open belt as a temporary fix.
• You can get the chastity deal before the vaginal piercing and anal plug deals, which will prevent you from equipping the piercing/plug, so you just keep getting punished for not wearing them. I guess you can chalk it up to your follower being really evil, expecting you to play the key game to unlock the belt just so you can equip your new accessories, which will probably end up costing you more than you got from the deal. On a side note, I'm kinda disappointed that the DD framework doesn't just allow you to equip and unequip anal plugs through open belts, since it breaks my immersion when it remains equipped during a belted anal scene, but I guess there's some complicated reason for it.
• Gag deal feels way too punishing, even by the standards of this mod. Any NPC I talk to just rips it off, leading to more debt as punishment, which adds up to insane amounts very quickly. While you could just try to avoid talking to anyone, it's damn near impossible to make money to pay off your debts without access to merchants or ...clients. And being discouraged from talking to anyone kinda ruins the fun of some of the other deals that involve talking to random people. While other deals stack up and gradually makes it harder to regain your freedom, gag deal alone just seems to instantly rob you of any hope of recovery. It's even worse if you're using a mod that adds hunger or thirst, not a huge deal, I just expected more compatibility with survival mods since you added compatibility for Frostfall. And another minor issue is that you can't sell potions while gagged, since the DD framework just hides things you can't consume from your item menu, a bit of a downer if you were hoping to pay off some debts with your alchemy income. So while my main complaint would be solved by toning down the frequency of NPCs ripping off the gag, I'd really prefer if you just switched to a panel gag. Would look sexier too.
• Would be nice to see your dice roll during the denial games. How do I know my follower even rolled a die in the first place? Wouldn't surprise me if she's just been pretending to give me a chance all this time.
• Never seen any of the city deals trigger after accepting them, whether through spending time in a city or entering one. Does it check really infrequently, or am I missing something?
• This is really nitpicky, but it looks like there's at least one deal I haven't been offered yet, because I don't want to spoil the fun by looking up how to trigger it. This really feels like the kind of mod that's great to have on while playing normally and just seeing what happens, instead of intentionally trying to trigger all the content. So I hope you'll keep making content that's accessible while playing normally.

Agreed on all points. I would also add that the selection of animations is very limited if you use standard ZaZ, DDi settings. Basicly its Zap blowjob most of the time. I tried unchecking a couple of boxes in DDi so that devices could be removed thereby permitting more animations, but that resulted in a few CTD's so i dont think the mod is set up for that at the moment. It might make sense to code the follower to be aware of and able to remove/reapply devices for whoring purposes. 

[eggsalad]

1 hour ago, Teddar said:

Agreed on all points. I would also add that the selection of animations is very limited if you use standard ZaZ, DDi settings. Basicly its Zap blowjob most of the time. I tried unchecking a couple of boxes in DDi so that devices could be removed thereby permitting more animations, but that resulted in a few CTD's so i dont think the mod is set up for that at the moment. It might make sense to code the follower to be aware of and able to remove/reapply devices for whoring purposes. 

If you replace the default belt with a proper open belt, it'll pick between all your anal animations for most scenes, with only the gag punishment scene picking oral animations. Clearly the way it's meant to be, considering the notifications during the tease games imply you're supposed to be fucked in the ass.

[Lozeak]

I thought I used a open belt for the deal. I'll fix it

[Lozeak]

13 hours ago, Black Justicar said:

Lozeak  , can you please make some kind of an automatic lockout (DF pause) on SD+ enslavement? Cause, i think, many people love both of this mods. 
And can you please add "Lock MCM settings" option, after X debt, like in DFW, or in DCL, or in Devious Keysmiths or in Devious Key Anticheat, for hardcore lovers?

You did not answered me first time. Will post it again, sorry.

 

I read it. I will eventually. I been working on something that will do this .... but it needs more work. It's a little more complex than a simple check, I need more time working on this.

Basically, a detection system is being devloped for other slavery mod that use ZAZ zbfslavefaction on the player. It's complexe though and will need SSplus (since I'm gonna use that as a bridge)

 

Yes, if I don't answer spam me. Depending on mood I could read but not reply then forget ... it's just the way I am, I don't mean it that way. When I'm in a better state of mind I'll be good to reply ^^.

10 hours ago, Kalthen said:

It has to have something to do with the petsuit not getting the effect. The jarl quest is almost making me quit. It's like a total dead end on the whole palace.

...Ohh well that's what testing is for. ... I just had to teleport a npc out of the palace, pay off the piercing deal and talk to him outside. Then add 1000g debt via mcm and retake the deals.

 

I see three solutions for the jarl quest:

1. Make it end inside the palace once the guards are finished.

2. Add a gag to hamper speech. Gag game

3. Make it optional via MCM

 

You might need to update DD for animation but I will look into it, I think it's cool though.

 

1 = You need to talk to your follower and that explain you have to walk outside. This is intentional for your little walk of shame at the end  (basically, to make you walk more in the pet suit hehe) 

In general the follower should tell you what to do if your stuck. I'll look into making sure that's not a one time thing, incase people missed it.

 

Lol initially the idea was to make you walk from a merchants to the jarls place or something  but since that would take forever I made it start in the palace ^^.

 

2 = Gag in that game, is no fun ^^. I like the idea people think you can speak but you can't

 

3 = MCM for games is on the to do list :).

 

3 hours ago, eggsalad said:

Played around with this for a while, thought I'd report some minor stuff I noticed. Sorry if some of these are well known.

 

• Deal chastity belt seems to be missing the permit anal property, so the anal scenes from the denial games get blocked. Also looks like a closed belt is used for the model. Fortunately I could just remove it and switch to a generic open belt as a temporary fix.
• You can get the chastity deal before the vaginal piercing and anal plug deals, which will prevent you from equipping the piercing/plug, so you just keep getting punished for not wearing them. I guess you can chalk it up to your follower being really evil, expecting you to play the key game to unlock the belt just so you can equip your new accessories, which will probably end up costing you more than you got from the deal. On a side note, I'm kinda disappointed that the DD framework doesn't just allow you to equip and unequip anal plugs through open belts, since it breaks my immersion when it remains equipped during a belted anal scene, but I guess there's some complicated reason for it.
• Gag deal feels way too punishing, even by the standards of this mod. Any NPC I talk to just rips it off, leading to more debt as punishment, which adds up to insane amounts very quickly. While you could just try to avoid talking to anyone, it's damn near impossible to make money to pay off your debts without access to merchants or ...clients. And being discouraged from talking to anyone kinda ruins the fun of some of the other deals that involve talking to random people. While other deals stack up and gradually makes it harder to regain your freedom, gag deal alone just seems to instantly rob you of any hope of recovery. It's even worse if you're using a mod that adds hunger or thirst, not a huge deal, I just expected more compatibility with survival mods since you added compatibility for Frostfall. And another minor issue is that you can't sell potions while gagged, since the DD framework just hides things you can't consume from your item menu, a bit of a downer if you were hoping to pay off some debts with your alchemy income. So while my main complaint would be solved by toning down the frequency of NPCs ripping off the gag, I'd really prefer if you just switched to a panel gag. Would look sexier too.
• Would be nice to see your dice roll during the denial games. How do I know my follower even rolled a die in the first place? Wouldn't surprise me if she's just been pretending to give me a chance all this time.
• Never seen any of the city deals trigger after accepting them, whether through spending time in a city or entering one. Does it check really infrequently, or am I missing something?
• This is really nitpicky, but it looks like there's at least one deal I haven't been offered yet, because I don't want to spoil the fun by looking up how to trigger it. This really feels like the kind of mod that's great to have on while playing normally and just seeing what happens, instead of intentionally trying to trigger all the content. So I hope you'll keep making content that's accessible while playing normally.

 

Really good feedback. thanks  

 

Tape gag.... shouldn't add debt when it's removed. I checked and couldn't see anything. I'll test it at some point ^^ and find out.

Idea is the event for that deal is triggered when you need to talk with someone so being punished for that wouldn't make sense and is not intential.

 

Deal chasity- been fixed it should of been an Open belt. (I will double check cause maybe I haven't put a keyword on it still >>)  I'll check now and fix if i did.

 

Seeing roll- Hmmmm, maybe I'll look into it. I think I'll make a Message system to shown roll which is enabled/disable via the MCM. I do get it see you rolled 1 away from being free is delicious.

[Reesewow]

8 minutes ago, Lozeak said:

Tape gag.... shouldn't add debt when it's removed. I checked and couldn't see anything. I'll test it at some point ^^ and find out.

Idea is the event for that deal is triggered when you need to talk with someone so being punished for that wouldn't make sense and is not intential.

Haven't been able to try the latest updates yet (computer fixing to do first) but I believe I was seeing the "debt added to punish you" message show up after the sex scene/message boxes when the follower re-attaches the gag, not when the player initially loses the tape.  I thought it was slightly odd since the deal sounded like you were intended to lose the tape regularly, but assumed it was intentional.

8 minutes ago, Lozeak said:

Seeing roll- Hmmmm, maybe I'll look into it. I think I'll make a Message system to shown roll which is enabled/disable via the MCM. I do get it see you rolled 1 away from being free is delicious.

+1 to a notification showing you the dice roll, would be fun to see every number but 6 show up all the time.

[Lozeak]

11 minutes ago, Reesewow said:

Haven't been able to try the latest updates yet (computer fixing to do first) but I believe I was seeing the "debt added to punish you" message show up after the sex scene/message boxes when the follower re-attaches the gag, not when the player initially loses the tape.  I thought it was slightly odd since the deal sounded like you were intended to lose the tape regularly, but assumed it was intentional

Found it, fixed and uploaded .... agian . 

 

I need to go to bed now... work tomorrow.