Devious Devices

[naaitsab]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

@Dlinny_Lag, @naaitsab

 

Seems i found the problem. Due to for some players DD_Library quest and DD_ConfigQuest  conflict between both in latest version i remove all calls to DD_Config quest from DD_Library and because this variable is moved to DD_Library. It not inside esp/esm only in scripts. Seems you have old scripts or somehow in save is left old scripts.

UPD: can you send here config.json file how it looks (DD MCM)

That's why it's always recommended to start a new game if important script changes are made. The save files indeed holds records/references. This can really mess things up.

[Elsidia]

10 hours ago, naaitsab said:

This can really mess things up.

Good thing is, that this variable is necessary only for report devices equip errors in papyrus or on screen.

[TiredGamer]

13 hours ago, Elsidia said:

@Dlinny_Lag, @naaitsab

 

Seems i found the problem. Due to for some players DD_Library quest and DD_ConfigQuest  conflict between both in latest version i remove all calls to DD_Config quest from DD_Library and because this variable is moved to DD_Library. It not inside esp/esm only in scripts. Seems you have old scripts or somehow in save is left old scripts.

UPD: can you send here config.json file how it looks (DD MCM)

Here it is.
 

config.json

[Shxdy]

Recently started playing Fallout 4 again -- because i now have a computer that can handle it -- and I've tried to resume with the same mods I had before. I reinstalled all mods I had before, though the movement speed for Devious Devices bothered the hell out of me because it damn near made the game unplayable in first-person due to walking speed. So I fired up FO4Edit and opened the following path:

 

DeviousDevices.esm > Object Effect > DD_Ench_Heels > AbFortifyActorSpeedMult

 

and changed the "magnitude" value for it briefly to 55 from 40. The movement speed in first-person and third-person sped up (it's perfect in third-person), but it's too fast in first-person mode. (In first-person, actor moves obscenely fast.)

 

Is there a way to fix this? Or do I need to reinstall Fallout 4 and some of my other mods?

 

(Currently using NMM for most of my mods and I used MO2 to install Deviously Cursed Menu, because I couldn't get it installed with NMM.)

[Elsidia]

On 6/1/2025 at 10:22 AM, TiredGamer said:

Here it is.

Seems it last version, so scripts are on old restraints on you. If you can delete those using console or DD Item remover. Then get or spawn news. This error not guilty on what happens, it just don't allow me see what restraint on you is damaged. But possibly problem still is nails.

[TiredGamer]

On 6/5/2025 at 8:33 AM, Elsidia said:

Seems it last version, so scripts are on old restraints on you. If you can delete those using console or DD Item remover. Then get or spawn news. This error not guilty on what happens, it just don't allow me see what restraint on you is damaged. But possibly problem still is nails.

 

Yes, the problem is the nails. Because their mod (MSMA Sexual Journey) trying to lock them, when an another mod (Latex Collar Course, or DD, or something else) trying to lock the restrictive gloves.

I started a new game, but the issue remains.
Maybe I need restrictive gloves with holes for nails? Like this:

[egonm68]

On 6/4/2025 at 9:05 AM, Shxdy said:

Recently started playing Fallout 4 again -- because i now have a computer that can handle it -- and I've tried to resume with the same mods I had before. I reinstalled all mods I had before, though the movement speed for Devious Devices bothered the hell out of me because it damn near made the game unplayable in first-person due to walking speed. So I fired up FO4Edit and opened the following path:

 

DeviousDevices.esm > Object Effect > DD_Ench_Heels > AbFortifyActorSpeedMult

 

and changed the "magnitude" value for it briefly to 55 from 40. The movement speed in first-person and third-person sped up (it's perfect in third-person), but it's too fast in first-person mode. (In first-person, actor moves obscenely fast.)

 

Is there a way to fix this? Or do I need to reinstall Fallout 4 and some of my other mods?

 

(Currently using NMM for most of my mods and I used MO2 to install Deviously Cursed Menu, because I couldn't get it installed with NMM.)

it's a common(-ish) problem that the speed-multiplier gets messed up. 
(not only by DD, also others. esp. when you switch 1st/3rd, or a scene forces that switch)

use this console command to reset it to normal:

player.forceav speedmult 100

 

[Elsidia]

18 hours ago, TiredGamer said:

Yes, the problem is the nails. Because their mod

Solution of problem is not put on gloves. Nails take the same slot as restrictive gloves because both mod conflicts. i will try to find spirit and add MCM option to disable DD check for devices, but it will end with destroyed gloves on you.  So there can't be made gloves what live with nails.

Need change gloves slot to other slot but it will mess up with DD functions.

 

[natybs]

Hi, I have a bizzare problem, when I start cursed wasteland and do the belted quest, I get two of each device locked on me, two chastity belts , two set of handcuffs ect. I do the vault part of belted and it only removes one set leaving me stuck. Has anyone had this issue or knows of a solution?

[Franco Cozzo]

2 hours ago, natybs said:

Hi, I have a bizzare problem, when I start cursed wasteland and do the belted quest, I get two of each device locked on me, two chastity belts , two set of handcuffs ect. I do the vault part of belted and it only removes one set leaving me stuck. Has anyone had this issue or knows of a solution?

 

 

 

Sex Attributes, Cursed DD Enchantings Redux and DDBU all have alternate escape methods for devious devices without resorting to console commands and issues, also there is a DD remove tool addon you can get from the files for this mod (DD) too that can be crafted at chem stations. Cursed DD enchantings has a free remove all option that may/should work.

 

If you need more willpower for Sex Attributes just put "set fpa_value_willpower to 50" into console or any number really.

Edited June 8, 2025 by Franco Cozzo

[natybs]

28 minutes ago, Franco Cozzo said:

 

 

 

Sex Attributes, Cursed DD Enchantings Redux and DDBU all have alternate escape methods for devious devices without resorting to console commands and issues, also there is a DD remove tool addon you can get from the files for this mod (DD) too that can be crafted at chem stations. Cursed DD enchantings has a free remove all option that may/should work.

 

If you need more willpower for Sex Attributes just put "set fpa_value_willpower to 50" into console or any number really.

thanks i appreciate this, but it doesn't help the quest being started a second time however. 

[Shxdy]

On 6/7/2025 at 6:30 AM, egonm68 said:

it's a common(-ish) problem that the speed-multiplier gets messed up. 
(not only by DD, also others. esp. when you switch 1st/3rd, or a scene forces that switch)

use this console command to reset it to normal:

player.forceav speedmult 100

 

Reset Fo4. Fixed the issue. Currently facing some issues with DD, such as moaning or dialogue restriction not occurring (dialogue continues as normal when gagged). Also not able to access part of the DD menu in game (it shows up when I exit ModConfig but shows up when I return without ability to change settings or even enter that page of the menu), which has an option to hide the PipBoy (mine is always hidden and I don’t want it that way). Everything else that I want to work seems to be working. Hoping that there might be a fix for these two issues.

[Elsidia]

22 hours ago, Shxdy said:

some issues with DD

What DD version you use?

 

[AyseYenilmaz]

Kinda strange thing happened: Started a new game, and all of a sudden I got the warning "Devious Devices RC9 Beta2" is not installed and mod probably wouldn't work. Strange cause I didn't play around with any essential mods (aaf, dd, animations), just got rid of some story mods I didn't use. So I installed the newest version of dd again and some additional ones.    But the warning just continued. So I searched this thread and did find a link to a file called   

Now do I need this file instead of one of the above or is it additional?

[Elsidia]

You need remove completely Devious Devices (it's old mod 2.0 and conflicts with RC9)

Then install Devious Devices 2.0_RC9_Beta2_HotFix (before that remove it if it already installed)

And then install if you want - DD20RC9PlayerRefHotfix_Beta2 - it's changes something in player script to fix problems.

If you have Devious devices and Devices 2.0_RC9_Beta2_HotFix - it's two different mods and mess up one with second.

 

Edited June 13, 2025 by Elsidia

[AyseYenilmaz]

34 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

You need remove completely Devious Devices (it's old mod 2.0 and conflicts with RC9)

Then install Devious Devices 2.0_RC9_Beta2_HotFix (before that remove it if it already installed)

And then install if you want - DD20RC9PlayerRefHotfix_Beta2 - it's changes something in player script to fix problems.

If you have Devious devices and Devices 2.0_RC9_Beta2_HotFix - it's two different mods and mess up one with second.

 

Okay, thanks so much! I installed Devious Devices 2.0_RC9_Beta2_HotFix already and didn't get the warning anymore, so I thought everything would be fine. But now I will remove the old Devious Devices of course. Will it mess up my game, if I do so without starting a new game? I am afraid so ... 

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, AyseYenilmaz said:

Will it mess up my game, if I do so without starting a new game? I am afraid so ... 

A low chance. some scripts will old, and old restraints need destroyed. Devious devices is the same mod as DD 2.0 RC9, only if you have old version of DD it will rewrite new version and works bad.  If you just remove old version new version now works with full force and use the same load slot as old version. And it will add some new restraints if old version rewrites new.

 

[Will55]

Okay, I think that you all need a laugh so here is my DD newbie question: I have my lover in a silver steel chastity belt along with vaginal vibrator and a  butt plug. She seems happy enough wearing them permanently. But every night I usually forget to remove them(I have the keys)  and then she informs me the next morning about just how good was the sex last night.

 

So what is the point of all three? Do they just not work if I have the keys? If not, then what is the earthly use of them as if I can, then so can any one else screw her (TBH  I do not trust her which is why she is wearing them)?

[izzyknows]

3 minutes ago, Will55 said:

Okay, I think that you all need a laugh so here is my DD newbie question: I have my lover in a silver steel chastity belt along with vaginal vibrator and a  butt plug. She seems happy enough wearing them permanently. But every night I usually forget to remove them(I have the keys)  and then she informs me the next morning about just how good was the sex last night.

 

So what is the point of all three? Do they just not work if I have the keys? If not, then what is the earthly use of them as if I can, then so can any one else screw her (TBH  I do not trust her which is why she is wearing them)?

DD restraints were never ment for NPC's. The game engine has issues with bound NPC's to start with. Basically the AI freaks out if the same effects the player gets are applied to NPC's.

RC9 mitigates some of that, but it's still recommended not to use them on ones you don't want broken.

 

[Franco Cozzo]

30 minutes ago, Will55 said:

Okay, I think that you all need a laugh so here is my DD newbie question: I have my lover in a silver steel chastity belt along with vaginal vibrator and a  butt plug. She seems happy enough wearing them permanently. But every night I usually forget to remove them(I have the keys)  and then she informs me the next morning about just how good was the sex last night.

 

So what is the point of all three? Do they just not work if I have the keys? If not, then what is the earthly use of them as if I can, then so can any one else screw her (TBH  I do not trust her which is why she is wearing them)?

You would need another mod to handle/recognise that she is wearing devices, DD doesnt even have companion events to begin with so it isnt a DD "thing" but the mod that makes your NPC say the sex was good not working the way you want.

 

Skyrim has much better handling/recognition of its devices on NPCs if you're looking for that sort of gameplay/immersion.

Edited June 15, 2025 by Franco Cozzo

[Shxdy]

On 6/11/2025 at 1:38 AM, Elsidia said:

What DD version you use?

 

I’m using 2.0 RC8, I think. I’ve had that version for a while now. 

[izzyknows]

8 minutes ago, Shxdy said:

I’m using 2.0 RC8, I think. I’ve had that version for a while now. 

The "RC_" versions are complete replacements for DD 2.0. You can't have both installed.

I'd start with removing the current version and installing RC9

Just remember to rebuild your DD items, and start a new run so you don't have any issues with baked in scripts that will probably cause a few issues.

[Shxdy]

On 6/16/2025 at 12:46 PM, izzyknows said:

The "RC_" versions are complete replacements for DD 2.0. You can't have both installed.

I'd start with removing the current version and installing RC9

Just remember to rebuild your DD items, and start a new run so you don't have any issues with baked in scripts that will probably cause a few issues.

Do I need to reinstall anything else? The DeviousDevices.esm file I had retained the edits I made in FO4Edit.

[izzyknows]

2 hours ago, Shxdy said:

Do I need to reinstall anything else? The DeviousDevices.esm file I had retained the edits I made in FO4Edit.

Just Devious devices. But make sure you read the description as some extra mods are incorporated into RC9 and are no longer needed.

That's why you make a patch and not edit the original mod.

 

[kannz]

On 5/10/2025 at 11:01 AM, pet420 said:

I was hoping i could get some help, for some reason the moan sounds for the plugs does not play. Animations works fine.
Has anyone else experienced this and knows a solution? RC9 version.

this is also happening to me. Also the devices are blinking off and on. i thought i read someone also had this happen uh i dont remember what they did.. also rc9.. using fusion girl. not sure if i have all the needed files for it to work..looking still lol

Edited June 23, 2025 by kannz