Devious Devices Framework Development/Beta

[audhol]

Don't worry, this wont hurt...........................................................much

 

Spoiler

 

[audhol]

5 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

umm - maybe a bit too small

Better?

 

Spoiler

 

[kapibar]

27 minutes ago, audhol said:

Better?

Uhm... Unusable really. The base of the plug (the part pushing sphincters apart) is actually narrower than the vaginal plug which is supposed to be a size of a cock. For this setup to work, the base of the anal plug should allow easy access, this is not the case at the moment.

[audhol]

18 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

Overall, the anal part could be a bit longer - at the rear end - so that a "normal" penis fits in its entire length

 

 

16 minutes ago, kapibar said:

For this setup to work, the base of the anal plug should allow easy access

The vaginal hole is part of the catsuit so its flexible, there is a larger plug on the outside

 

 

Well if I make the hole large enough for an sos schlong its kinda silly big and theres not enough inside space for both.

 

Spoiler

 

Edited October 28, 2022 by audhol

[kapibar]

7 minutes ago, audhol said:

 

The vaginal hole is part of the catsuit so its flexible, there is a larger plug on the outside

 

 

Well if I make the hole large enough for an sos schlong its kinda silly big and theres not enough inside space for both.

I think it looks like an open buffet. Come to think about it, if the anal plug is stretchy, there would really be no point in choosing loose vagnina with a stiff tunnel inside instead of more responsive anus. This way the doll offers the same quality service in both holes.

[audhol]

5 minutes ago, kapibar said:

I think it looks like an open buffet.

well if you dont think the hole looks  a rediculous size I'll try building the suit aroung it and see what it looks like finished.

 

[Gudulba]

22 hours ago, Zaflis said:

At least i have never seen a bug like that. Does that include the DCL house in Riverwood too? If the npc's are stuck and you leave, they will still be stuck in a visible furniture when you get back. So in all likelyhood there is something wrong with your mod setup.

 

But i have never tried that with furnitures i place with some kits... You didn't specify how to reproduce exactly.

I haven't noticed anything unusual in the the Whips and Chains Inn in Riverwood.

 

I am using AddItemMenu to get the furniture from DD Contraptions into my inventory and drop it whereupon it's visible. Then target an NPC with DD action key, target the furniture and choose the corresponding option in the popup menu whereupon the NPC is tied to the furniture.

 

I have tried to recreate the issue by leaving the cell, going to another cell, save the game, quit the game and load the game again, then going to another cell and then finally to the cell with the furniture. However I am not able to recreate it on purpose it seems because the NPC was still tied correctly to the still visible furniture.

 

But what's for sure is that the furniture will turn invisible at some point in time. Because it has always been like this when I finally returned to it after a while (furniture invisible and should-be tied up NPC walking on the spot). I just don't know what the trigger is...

Edited October 28, 2022 by Gudulba

[kapibar]

Just now, audhol said:

well if you dont think the hole looks  a rediculous size I'll try building the suit aroung it and see what it looks like finished.

 

Quite the opposite in fact. It looks humiliating as fuck, unpleasant and objectifying. Which I think is kinda the point.

[Zaflis]

3 hours ago, Gudulba said:

I haven't noticed anything unusual in the the Whips and Chains Inn in Riverwood.

 

I am using AddItemMenu to get the furniture from DD Contraptions into my inventory and drop it whereupon it's visible. Then target an NPC with DD action key, target the furniture and choose the corresponding option in the popup menu whereupon the NPC is tied to the furniture...

There should be an NPC vendor in Whip and Chains inn that sells furniture kits. It might work better than creating them forcefully? Furnitures have scripts with properties attached and if you simply place a base item you can't edit them. I don't know how those base furnitures should behave.

 

Could the NPC's be time locked? I'm guessing too much, only Kimy probably knows ?

[Mexicola88]

On 10/24/2022 at 8:50 PM, audhol said:

Some Feedback would be cool please guys.

 

Just the piercings for now.

 

DeviousSexDollSEAE3BA.7z 2.66 MB · 14 downloads

 

DeviousSexDollLECBBE.7z 2.54 MB · 10 downloads

 

Dats kinda cool,  I'll have a go once the sexdoll stuff is finished.

 

If anyone has anything they would like made for DD I'm happy to consider it. I don't pretend to be the greatest modeler or texturer but I can output something of reasonable quality, if its not something that Kimy wants to assimilate into the DD hive then it could always be released as an addon.

 

If you need/want some inspiration, the guy that created this website has pretty extreme perverted ideas some of them are really really cruel.

 

https://lock-master.com/previews/

 

Some of the shiny stainless steel devices look really awesome, and the rubber "clothing" is pretty nice too. A shame he doesn't offer his pics for free, but donating once, grants access to all pics for a month. And it's only a few bucks, doing it just once every few years might be worth it.

 

Spoiler

 

[Kimy]

9 minutes ago, Mexicola88 said:

If you need/want some inspiration, the guy that created this website has pretty extreme perverted ideas some of them are really really cruel.

 

 

Just as a general remark when looking for inspiration/suggestions: DD is generally about "lighthearted" bondage topics. While some degree of discomfort/humiliation caused by devices is fine, I generally want to stay away from severe torture, permanent maiming, dismemberment and stuff like that. That's a bit too extreme for me.

[audhol]

@Miauzi @kapibar

 

Spoiler

 

[kapibar]

@audhol me likey!

[Taki17]

I'm still finding things to fix, this time with the corsets. The download here only contains the changes regarding the corsets, my previous contributions to beta 9 can be found in their separate post from before:

List of all corset-related changes:

• Introduced a new message for all chastity corsets that correctly says that they are unlocked by chastity keys
• The transparent chastity corsets were missing their inventory device counterparts, only the rendered versions were present, so I added them and paired them in their respective script properties
• Created and assigned proper world models for the transparent chastity corset and its open-back variant
• Added the transparent chastity corset and its open-back variant to the appropriate leveled list

Everything merges into Expansion.

small DD corset fixes for beta 9.7z

Edited October 29, 2022 by Taki17

[Taki17]

32 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

In connection with the corsets I always had the question:

Can't you implement a "real" waist reduction for them if it were just a slider in "Bodyslide"?

(It doesn't have to lead to an extreme "wasp" waist)

From my limited knowledge on the topic of bodyslide, a slider wouldn't solve that, because corsets go over and conform to the regular body, and there is no body replacement involved.

 

However there are mods out there that handle body scaling depending on the type of restraint worn and for how long it is worn, like this one:

 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Taki17

[brdc]

On 10/28/2022 at 11:34 AM, zarantha said:

 

Yeah, DD is loading correctly.

 

I just overwrite the old install with the new, and select replace instead of merge in MO2 so there's no trace of the old version.

Installing new, activating, and then disabling/deleting the old mod would also work

 

On 10/28/2022 at 11:40 AM, zarantha said:

 

If some catsuits and other outfits are showing and some aren't you may have another mod providing the missing outfits that you haven't built the bodyslides for. In any case, missing body like that is a bodyslide building issue. Locate the bodyslide for that outfit and build only that outfit, and make sure it's outputting to the right location.

 

The MCM thing is an issue with laggy skyui on your pc. This is probably going to be the easiest way to make sure the MCM completely initializes:

 

1. Start a new game.
2. Wait 30 secs, or not at all. It's really just telling Skyrim that you MEAN it. Or so.
3. Quit to menu.

4. Load your existing save. It should show up and be functional this time.

Thank you so much for your patient help!! Enjoy your vacation

[audhol]

Any thoughts Guys'N'Girls?

 

Spoiler

The one on the right will be fully bodyslide compatible and other piercings will fit correctly.

 

The one on the left will have limited bodyslide options for brest shape but size could be adjusted to fit the wearers current bodyshape, furthermore because of the changed nipple placment the piercings would have to be included as part of the suit.

[brdc]

1 hour ago, Taki17 said:

I'm still finding things to fix, this time with the corsets. The download here only contains the changes regarding the corsets, my previous contributions to beta 9 can be found in their separate post from before...

 

Hi Taki, Looks like you're the guy dealing with fix things...

So I figure you might know if this is a bug or not

 

On 10/28/2022 at 3:05 AM, 1947421196 said:

Finally got in the game and had a quick look of new DD, many devices now have 3BA mode, big WOW!!

Noticed some collars, boots, ankle chains, rubber gloves are more detailed, really good.

 

But I ran into two issues:

1. some body devices from "DD equip", including catsuit, bra, harness were totally disappeared when equiped. Both happened on my PC and the maid in my own house.

In catsuit case, my body just vanished with my hands & head floating around. In bra/harness case, they didn't show up but my body were still there. 

Didn't have time for every body devices but I guess it might be the same.

I tried some normal catsuits, worked right on my 3BA body. 

Of course I built everything in BS before starting the game.

I'm playing SE and have upgrated to DD 5.2 Beta 9.

After thoroughly building every possible related outfit in Bodyslide, the catsuits and bras from DD Equip are working good in 3BA body now. 

While the harnesses are still disappeared. Not one but all from DD Equip(ver. 5.34.1, worked good when I was using DD 5.1). 

I'm sure they are equiped since I can't equip another one and they can be unequiped correctly.

Also I tried "black leather chastity harness" from the newest DD, which looks excatly the same as the ones from DDE (except color, of course), and it worked good.

So please check it out, and thank you guys for continuous efforts in this outstanding mod!!

[Taki17]

52 minutes ago, 1947421196 said:

So please check it out, and thank you guys for continuous efforts in this outstanding mod!!

Sorry to disappoint, however I know fuck all about SSE, 3BA and DD Equip, as I have 7 minutes played on the first, and haven't touched the last two. Besides, it really does sound like an issue on DD Equip's side, you may have better luck asking in the respective mod's own thread.

[naaitsab]

8 hours ago, audhol said:

Any thoughts Guys'N'Girls?

 

  Reveal hidden contents

The one on the right will be fully bodyslide compatible and other piercings will fit correctly.

 

The one on the left will have limited bodyslide options for brest shape but size could be adjusted to fit the wearers current bodyshape, furthermore because of the changed nipple placment the piercings would have to be included as part of the suit.

I would go for the right one, at least if you intend to supply it for DD use. As Kimy said before DD is not really geared towards the extremes. There was also some discussion about the 'breast yoke' being too extreme.

You could always provide the meshes as modders resources as someone else might pick up on them for a mod using DD. Like the Dwarven Cuirass mod recourse for example. So don't think of anything as wasted.

 

And personally I detest piercings, so that does not really help with the vibe of the left one for me  

[Mexicola88]

10 hours ago, audhol said:

Any thoughts Guys'N'Girls?

 

  Reveal hidden contents

The one on the right will be fully bodyslide compatible and other piercings will fit correctly.

 

The one on the left will have limited bodyslide options for brest shape but size could be adjusted to fit the wearers current bodyshape, furthermore because of the changed nipple placment the piercings would have to be included as part of the suit.

That suit is pretty cool, will it be possible to wear it with the restrictive items without clipping? Will you give it the same colors like the other items so black, white, red leather and ebonite and maybe pink or something? A mask that perfectly works with the suit, and doesn't clip with the already existing blindfolds and gags would be sweet too. 

[audhol]

8 hours ago, naaitsab said:

As Kimy said before DD is not really geared towards the extremes.

 

7 hours ago, Miauzi said:

The sentence "DD isn't really geared towards extremes" makes me smile.

I kinda agree with Miauzi's assesment that there are more extreme items currently in DD than a brest bondage inflatable suit. I would say both the chain collar and the nipple clamps are harder and would be more painful than some compresion around the base. To be fair I Have lossened the pinching effect a bit since the screenshot.

 

Whatever Kimy is under no obligation to include the suit in DD as I am more than capable of at the very least releasing it as an addon with some basic quest attached to it.

 

7 hours ago, Mexicola88 said:

That suit is pretty cool, will it be possible to wear it with the restrictive items without clipping? Will you give it the same colors like the other items so black, white, red leather and ebonite and maybe pink or something? A mask that perfectly works with the suit, and doesn't clip with the already existing blindfolds and gags would be sweet too. 

 

Yes it will be fully compatible with current restrictive items, the only current DD's that will clip or be misaligned are nipple piercings and the chastity bra.

 

With that said I am also going to make boots, mittens a collar and a hood as part of the set.

There was a previous discusion about the hood and it will be a full blindfold hood with an oral cavity.

 

I intend to make multiple colour versions. I'm now finalising the seams so it wont be long before I can unwrap and export so we can see how it will look ingame.

 

Spoiler

 

[brdc]

16 hours ago, Taki17 said:

Sorry to disappoint, however I know fuck all about SSE, 3BA and DD Equip, as I have 7 minutes played on the first, and haven't touched the last two. Besides, it really does sound like an issue on DD Equip's side, you may have better luck asking in the respective mod's own thread.

My apology for bothering you. I've been misunderstood that DD Equip, like Assets/Expansion, is from DD...

Well, I'm gonna try asking in that thread.

[Richard1234]

On 10/18/2022 at 8:40 PM, naaitsab said:

Might not be the biggest new content wise but I have to applaud the amount of effort from all contributors for all fixes and tweaks

 

 

I was looking again in the 'Dark Disciple' mod as we are lacking a leather variant for the catsuit. I looked into it a bit further but it's based on the same catsuit mod DD uses only with diffrent textures. So I played with the NIF textures a bit and it does look quite neat. And with the bonus that it already fits the current DD items meshwise

 

  Hide contents

 

Not to keen on the stichhing on the belly as it seems a bit warped but overal it does look kinda nice. Would there be intrest to further this endavour? I could tweak the textures a bit, also add other colors of course.

Yes, cool!

[Richard1234]

On 10/26/2022 at 1:07 AM, UnEvenSteven said:

 

It's a little loose, yes, but nothing egregious. Leaves some room for thicker arms.

I don't think it's worth scrapping the slider because of the Elbowbinder not being skin tight. The fixed-weight version is only slightly better.

 

There's a lot of devices that don't fit "right" but you don't remove sliders for those, you shouldn't remove the slider for Elbowbinders either.

In my opinion the new version is so loose that the elbow binder almost looks like the normal armbinder. It doesn’t convey the feeling that it’s tight. The old version looks a lot better. In my opinion

Aren’t ‘thicker arms’ also part of the bodyslide sliders? If yes, then maybe there’s a way to make the sliders that define arm thickness affect the elbowbinder? I don’t know anything about meshes and stuff, sorry if these questions don’t make sense.