Devious Devices Framework Development/Beta

[naaitsab]

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I think that would be a nice addition to Devious Sounds - there are already gag and gasmask sounds, so impaired hearing through rubber noise would be a nice addition. Who's going to poke @AndrewLRG ?

 

PS:

Läßt du automatisch übersetzen? Es sind Dragon Shouts, nicht Screams - bloß das dürfte im Deutschen auf dasselbe hinauslaufen... ?

I was going to link that mod as well. I think it's a nice addition to DD. But having multiple DD 'audio addon' mods would be undesirable so I guess there are a couple of options.

 

A merge Devious Sounds (and it's settings/options/customization) into DD and add the new sound files as optional type. This would be my preference as it saves a MCM and ESP slot and it's very customizable so won't conflict with the current defaults if desired.

B roll back the sounds to the previous beta and leave it there

C Do B but add the extra sounds as an option to Devious Sounds so they don't get lost for the people that do like them.

 

Edited October 21, 2022 by naaitsab

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, S.MayLeR said:

Strange, but the sound of the gas mask in this modification did not work for me ... apparently it conflicted with another modification - "Gasmask Sounds". Although if I deleted the second one and cleaned the saves, then in the first one the sounds did not appear

That should better be discussed in the Devious Sounds thread, probably not here...

I'd try some low level debugging: dissect the sound files from the other mod and put them where DevSounds expects them.

Uninstalling something mid-game and hoping your save still works is risky, at least use some save cleaner.

If your modification resp. uninstalling worked, can only be seen on a new-ish game.

 

2 hours ago, S.MayLeR said:

Аnd in the files of the DD itself there are breathing files in a gas mask, but for some reason they are not used ...

Uhm... now is the time to get that fixed. Kimy? Taki17?

[mikesolo1975]

11 hours ago, zarantha said:

SE conversion of DD beta 8. I haven't changed the bodyslides yet, things are still the same as beta 7.

 

mega: https://mega.nz/file/lCJUEbjT#M7ONiAijmKYDR4ndIWXLe9ogR78bDgDw0ZWO9f10Dh0

 

gdrive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/161XEzFkAhX6AEEpzijJ8F_bFUgnXhyy2/view?usp=sharing

thanks for the amazing work as always my friend

[mikesolo1975]

its possible one patch for slif  for the new version DD beta 8 ?

thanks for any help and advice

[Kimy]

2 hours ago, naaitsab said:

I was going to link that mod as well. I think it's a nice addition to DD. But having multiple DD 'audio addon' mods would be undesirable so I guess there are a couple of options.

 

A merge Devious Sounds (and it's settings/options/customization) into DD and add the new sound files as optional type. This would be my preference as it saves a MCM and ESP slot and it's very customizable so won't conflict with the current defaults if desired.

B roll back the sounds to the previous beta and leave it there

C Do B but add the extra sounds as an option to Devious Sounds so they don't get lost for the people that do like them.

 

 

I would prefer keeping the rubber sounds in the framework, as opposed to a separate add-on. I think I will add a MCM slider to configure the frequency (with 'never' being an option for those who really dislike the sounds). Only question remaining is whether to use the old or new sound set.

Edited October 21, 2022 by Kimy

[Kimy]

2 minutes ago, mikesolo1975 said:

its possible one patch for slif  for the new version DD beta 8 ?

thanks for any help and advice

 

I do not provide SLIF patches. I think they author of SLIF does that? In any case, it's not worth doing that for DD beta versions. Beta 9 will be released sooner rather than later...

[mikesolo1975]

1 minute ago, Kimy said:

 

I do not provide SLIF patches. I think they author of SLIF does that? In any case, it's not worth doing that for DD beta versions. Beta 9 will be released sooner rather than later...

ok thanks for your help and time

[naaitsab]

1 hour ago, Kimy said:

 

I would prefer keeping the rubber sounds in the framework, as opposed to a separate add-on. I think I will add a MCM slider to configure the frequency (with 'never' being an option for those who really dislike the sounds). Only question remaining is whether to use the old or new sound set.

The outcome on the change is mostly negative. Even so that a lot more users than normal gave feedback. So I guess the old system is liked a lot more. We could add a poll to the thread but as the creator said it's more geared towards the "hardcore enthusiast" than regular users. Which I think properly summarizes the "problem" users have with it. One could always overwrite the sounds if anyone posted the changed files in the support thread, that's the beauty of modding. I think the focus should be more on the casual experience as sound is very easy to overdo and become irritating. Personally the old files hit the sweet spot if not set to loud.

 

So perhaps it's a decision best left for the next version? Just outright revert al sound changes and keep it on the sketchbook with things like sliders, options and possible mod mergers.

Edited October 21, 2022 by naaitsab

[serranna]

6 hours ago, S.MayLeR said:

in the files of the DD itself there are breathing files in a gas mask, but for some reason they are not used ...

 

Are you sure? I certainly hear them when my character wears a gas mask and I dont use devious sounds.

 

2 hours ago, Kimy said:

Only question remaining is whether to use the old or new sound set.

 

I certainly vote for the old set. I like to use the sounds and will be disappointed to have to mute the new sound if it stays.

[S.MayLeR]

2 hours ago, serranna said:

 

Are you sure? I certainly hear them when my character wears a gas mask and I dont use devious sounds.

Here is the path to the files:
C:\...\Devious Devices LE 5.2 Beta 8\00 Base\Sound\fx\DeviousDevices\Breathing

 

But I have never heard these sounds in the game, so I have to use the modification that I already mentioned - "Gasmask Sounds"

 

upd: For fun, I decided to go into the game and check if the sounds of the gas mask work and ... yes! Strange, but before they were not reproduced. At the same time, at the moment I do not use third-party modifications for restrains (gags and gas masks).

Edited October 21, 2022 by S.MayLeR

[zarantha]

20 hours ago, serranna said:

 

Safe to assume the SE conversion contains the new ebonite sounds?

 

Yes. I'm changing enough without delving into the sounds too.

 

And i also forgot to patch the stuff Taki added in, where there were missing textures or something....

 

So yes, all the same things that have recently been discussed for LE are present in the SE version too.

Edited October 22, 2022 by zarantha

[tznvlw]

16 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said:

its possible one patch for slif  for the new version DD beta 8 ?

thanks for any help and advice

 

Take it?

 

SLIF Patch for DD 5.2 Beta8.7z

[mikesolo1975]

2 hours ago, tznvlw said:

 

Take it?

 

SLIF Patch for DD 5.2 Beta8.7z 33.63 kB · 0 downloads

thanks again for your work and time my friend

[audhol]

With all this talk about squeaky catsuits I got my blender pencil out and made a rough draft for an idea,

 

Is this something @Kimy and the rest of you guys would be interested in me making?

 

I called it the SexDoll Catsuit.

 

Spoiler

 

[CaptainJ03]

9 minutes ago, audhol said:

I called it the SexDoll Catsuit.

Oooh, very nice.

I personally would prefer an open crotch variant to those sheaths, but this is still a YES. ?

 

If I may express a wish: a closed hood, but with open mouth so that blowjobs (or cunnilingus) are still possible.

[Taki17]

12 minutes ago, audhol said:

I called it the SexDoll Catsuit.

Looks very promising. I wouldn't mind having a simply crotchless and exposed breast variant of it as well, if you are interested.

[audhol]

7 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

If I may express a wish: a closed hood, but with open mouth so that blowjobs (or cunnilingus) are still possible.

Haha great minds think alike, I already started a matching blackout hood with open mouth tunnel.

 

8 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I personally would prefer an open crotch variant to those sheaths

 

7 minutes ago, Taki17 said:

I wouldn't mind having a simply crotchless and exposed breast variant of it as well

I could do that but the thinking was it turns the wearer into a sextoy with three open holes to be used but they get no pleasure from the act due to the sheaths.

[naaitsab]

1 hour ago, audhol said:

Haha great minds think alike, I already started a matching blackout hood with open mouth tunnel.

 

 

I could do that but the thinking was it turns the wearer into a sextoy with three open holes to be used but they get no pleasure from the act due to the sheaths.

 

Something like this? (NSFW pic)

 

Spoiler

 

It might be a tat bit too fetishy for DD but I do like it. Might also b a perfect fit for the rubber doll quest in Cursed loot  

[audhol]

17 minutes ago, naaitsab said:

Something like this?

Yeah thats kinda the look, I was thinking of mittens fixed in the handjob position too.

 

Just need it not to look like a cartoon. What are your (or anyone elses) thoughts on painting some eyes on and maybe a wig?

 

[naaitsab]

26 minutes ago, audhol said:

Yeah thats kinda the look, I was thinking of mittens fixed in the handjob position too.

 

Just need it not to look like a cartoon. What are your (or anyone elses) thoughts on painting some eyes on and maybe a wig?

 

Well the eyes are a part of the look. As real blow up dolls also have weird patchy eyes   A wig might be a bit over the top if the intent is to mimic the sexdoll thing. Might also be harder than expected to get working ingame.

[audhol]

Spoiler

 

[Kimy]

1 hour ago, audhol said:

Yeah thats kinda the look, I was thinking of mittens fixed in the handjob position too.

 

Just need it not to look like a cartoon. What are your (or anyone elses) thoughts on painting some eyes on and maybe a wig?

 

 

I like the general idea, but would also prefer it not to look cartoonish. Painted eyes or wigs are outside of my personal taste, but if people want it, could always make a separate device with an alternate texture?

[Darkwing241]

3 hours ago, Kimy said:

I like the general idea, but would also prefer it not to look cartoonish. Painted eyes or wigs are outside of my personal taste, but if people want it, could always make a separate device with an alternate texture?

It definitely fits with the with the objectification and body control kinks that most people use DD for, but I strongly agree the aesthetic doesn't work for skyrim.  There is a lot of room in medieval fantasy worlds for finely crafted objects, so you can explain away things like rubber in latex with them being crafted by elves/wizards/demons/whatever.  If master craftsmen are making these strange modern materials why the crude construction? It should either be something more akin to Devious Dwarven Cuirass, silk and lace or DD-brand Rubber.

 

There definitely could be bandits out there sewing women into suits like these, but wouldn't they be made mostly of easily worked crude cloth with small amounts of leather and iron? as opposed to the wrinkly cheap looking plastic modern version.

[Zor2k13]

So I downloaded the beta 8 file and did an extremely manual installation I noticed that the bodyslide files are in a different named folder compared to v5.1 why is that?

[DonQuiWho]

4 hours ago, Kimy said:

 

I like the general idea, but would also prefer it not to look cartoonish. Painted eyes or wigs are outside of my personal taste, but if people want it, could always make a separate device with an alternate texture?

 

Skyrim with Funny Latex Noises and Action Dolls

 

What more could we ask for .... ?