ousnius Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 This is the only thread we're allowed to say anything bad about the holy Bethesda and their sacred "Zpecial Edition" and yet, fanboys come here to disturb our peace and convert us to their religion... GTFO fanboys! Oh, and I hate CBBE users. I'm not a fanboy at all, in fact I don't even really play the Bethesda games. I just actually make things instead of complain 24/7, for me and for others. Sorry for not being miserable about everything. The old Skyrim became so awesome because people actually created mods for it. It wouldn't be better if that wasn't the case. So instead of complaining I help out so the new one can become even better. This isn't even about the special edition - some people in this community just literally like to hate on and troll everything. One day it's SSE, the other day it's CBBE and the next it's FO4. I could name more than one handful by name.
winny257 Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 This is the only thread we're allowed to say anything bad about the holy Bethesda and their sacred "Zpecial Edition" and yet, fanboys come here to disturb our peace and convert us to their religion... GTFO fanboys! Oh, and I hate CBBE users. Fully into the black. a unitary body everyone can use, But something special like LadyBody, Is only for people with more upscale taste. And the SSE (Bethesda) supporter should open their own thread. For me Bethesda is the bottom drawer!
slutofshades Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 ---snip--- So don't fucking play SSE. The existence of SSE doesn't preclude you using oldrim you moron. How does the f@cking existence of SSE ruin Oldrim? What you are having a hissy fit about SSE because Bethesda gave you a FREE choice to use either Oldrim or SSE and because you chose Oldrim that makes Bethesda the bad guy? how the f@ck does that work? I'm tired, over and over again about that to write! SSE is not free for all PC users, If only one DLC is missing you have to pay! With the announcement of SSE (May or June 2016) do not know so exactly, it was also no longer possible that missing DLC still to buy. this message received I from Steam, I can buy the DLC, but I would have to pay anyway, on publication of SSE. For me Bethesda is a money-greedy club, they should at money suffocate! You can believe me, how much I bethesda HATE!!! Edit: *** you moron *** this was inappropriate! Edit2: if you convert me 2000 GB of mods for SSE, then only then SSE is acceptable to me. Sorry... I've been enjoying reading this thread but I have to call -this- particular bullshit out... cause Winny hun, it is bullshit. If you bought, or activated Skyrim + all DLCs on steam ANY TIME up until, and including midnight on Friday the 28th of October (24 goddamn hours AFTER the game released) you would have had Skyrim Special Edition added to your steam library... it was published that this was the fact EVEN ON STEAM. For a week before Skyrim Special Edition released, if you went to the SSE page OR Oldrim's page, there was an offer to get some or all of Skyrim and its DLCs for a discount... they actually put the damn thing on sale for a week before SSE released, knowing it would over all cost them money if people bought it. You could still buy Hearthfire, or any other DLC on third party sites like G2A or GMG at a REDUCED cost... hell, if you are fine with G2A's less than kosher practices Hearthfire was like 2 euros. And if you activated them at any time before 11:59pm 28th October... you would have gotten it for free. No where officially was there a statement that you could no longer buy the original games, nor was there a statement saying that if you bought it between June and October, that you wouldnt be eligable... quite the opposite. You can hate Bethesda, you can boycott them, you can quite rightly hold issues with them... but the only person to bitch about for not getting the game for free is YOURSELF.
JerseyWalrus Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Sorry... I've been enjoying reading this thread but I have to call -this- particular bullshit out... cause Winny hun, it is bullshit. If you bought, or activated Skyrim + all DLCs on steam ANY TIME up until, and including midnight on Friday the 28th of October (24 goddamn hours AFTER the game released) you would have had Skyrim Special Edition added to your steam library... it was published that this was the fact EVEN ON STEAM. For a week before Skyrim Special Edition released, if you went to the SSE page OR Oldrim's page, there was an offer to get some or all of Skyrim and its DLCs for a discount... they actually put the damn thing on sale for a week before SSE released, knowing it would over all cost them money if people bought it. You could still buy Hearthfire, or any other DLC on third party sites like G2A or GMG at a REDUCED cost... hell, if you are fine with G2A's less than kosher practices Hearthfire was like 2 euros. And if you activated them at any time before 11:59pm 28th October... you would have gotten it for free. No where officially was there a statement that you could no longer buy the original games, nor was there a statement saying that if you bought it between June and October, that you wouldnt be eligable... quite the opposite. You can hate Bethesda, you can boycott them, you can quite rightly hold issues with them... but the only person to bitch about for not getting the game for free is YOURSELF. Adding on to this, there were multiple times in the past 5 years that Skyrim, including the DLC, went on sale for super cheap. I think this past summer, after a month or two of it being announced, Skyrim went on sale again on Steam. There really is no excuse for not buying the DLC if you wanted the free upgrade.
Uno Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Guys...guys, why all the hate. Bethesda did nothing wrong, guys... ...guys? Nah seriously, I hope that the comment about hating cbbe, lb or whatever the fuck is the product of a modder -and not bethesda- was pure sarcasm or just a cynic statement, if not...that's a very ignorant stand folks. Now on topic, the game had a lot to critizice, but the truth is that this is a decent start -for bethesda anyways- ; better than before. And if any of us play it or not...it doesn't matter, not a single fuck will be given, the game probably will be loved a lot, most than oldrym. I'll keep thanking the modders that work on this shit after all this years, btehesda and the rest of the community can go and eat a fat one, if that pleases them.
yatol Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Not surprising from a LadyBody user, though. is it such a huge problem i don't use cbbe? that topic was created because some didn't want to read critics in other topics and even in that topic we aren't allowed to critic sse... and don't compare me to pcpl, you forgot he gave me all the glory for deleting his daz conversions when he fled loverlab? (in fact it was because they were getting less +1 than unp stuff^^)
winny257 Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 ---snip--- So don't fucking play SSE. The existence of SSE doesn't preclude you using oldrim you moron. How does the f@cking existence of SSE ruin Oldrim? What you are having a hissy fit about SSE because Bethesda gave you a FREE choice to use either Oldrim or SSE and because you chose Oldrim that makes Bethesda the bad guy? how the f@ck does that work? I'm tired, over and over again about that to write! SSE is not free for all PC users, If only one DLC is missing you have to pay! With the announcement of SSE (May or June 2016) do not know so exactly, it was also no longer possible that missing DLC still to buy. this message received I from Steam, I can buy the DLC, but I would have to pay anyway, on publication of SSE. For me Bethesda is a money-greedy club, they should at money suffocate! You can believe me, how much I bethesda HATE!!! Edit: *** you moron *** this was inappropriate! Edit2: if you convert me 2000 GB of mods for SSE, then only then SSE is acceptable to me. Sorry... I've been enjoying reading this thread but I have to call -this- particular bullshit out... cause Winny hun, it is bullshit. If you bought, or activated Skyrim + all DLCs on steam ANY TIME up until, and including midnight on Friday the 28th of October (24 goddamn hours AFTER the game released) you would have had Skyrim Special Edition added to your steam library... it was published that this was the fact EVEN ON STEAM. For a week before Skyrim Special Edition released, if you went to the SSE page OR Oldrim's page, there was an offer to get some or all of Skyrim and its DLCs for a discount... they actually put the damn thing on sale for a week before SSE released, knowing it would over all cost them money if people bought it. You could still buy Hearthfire, or any other DLC on third party sites like G2A or GMG at a REDUCED cost... hell, if you are fine with G2A's less than kosher practices Hearthfire was like 2 euros. And if you activated them at any time before 11:59pm 28th October... you would have gotten it for free. No where officially was there a statement that you could no longer buy the original games, nor was there a statement saying that if you bought it between June and October, that you wouldnt be eligable... quite the opposite. You can hate Bethesda, you can boycott them, you can quite rightly hold issues with them... but the only person to bitch about for not getting the game for free is YOURSELF. I'm sorry I can give you the proof no more show, I have already deleted the message from Steam. You'd be amazed, Steam it has ever been, in the past, done. For you must know, I have already bought Oldrim twice, Just because Steam refused to remedy a fault I had caused. But this is another thing, does not belong here.
yatol Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 I'm not a fanboy at all, in fact I don't even really play the Bethesda games.I just actually make things instead of complain 24/7, for me and for others. Sorry for not being miserable about everything. what are you doing here if you don't even really play skyrim? and why are you wasting your time doing stuff for a game you don't even really play? i don't play minecraft, didn't made anything for it
bjornk Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 I'm not a fanboy at all, in fact I don't even really play the Bethesda games.See the problem here? If you don't play them, how do you even know if they are any good? This isn't even about the special edition - some people in this community just literally like to hate on and troll everything.I'm really sick and tired of this "you people love to hate!" bullshit, mostly coming out of fanboy mouths. We all came to LL for there was something we liked about Bethesda games, but that doesn't mean that we're all fanboys who try to defend the developer or the games against every single criticism, as if it's a matter of life and death. Oh and if there's anyone "trolling" in this hate thread, that's definitely not one of the "haters"...
ousnius Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 I'm not a fanboy at all, in fact I don't even really play the Bethesda games.I just actually make things instead of complain 24/7, for me and for others. Sorry for not being miserable about everything. what are you doing here if you don't even really play skyrim? and why are you wasting your time doing stuff for a game you don't even really play? i don't play minecraft, didn't made anything for it Why are you wasting your time asking me how I'm wasting my time? I do it because I like it, Bethesda games are a good platform to mod where people will actually use your stuff. It teaches me programming/modelling/communicating with people. In fact, I got my current real life job because I learned C++ solely by fixing/expanding BodySlide. 3 years making free things for people to be happy about and learn programming on the way - what a waste of time.
Taskmaster Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 -snip- And how the f@ck does that effect anyone on this forum? If you used loverslab to mod skyrim you owned the PC version and you got skyrim SE for FREE. Again how does this hurt any of us? And if you talk about console players alone they got the ability to mod the bloody game which they never could before. For people that WANT to mod a what $40 USD game giving them mod features is a lot cheaper then buying a computer. If they don't want mod capability they don't have to buy the game. How is the existence of the CHOICE a black mark on Bethesda? Yes Bethesda is trying to make money, SO F@CKING WHAT? They are a company the only way they can make games is to make money and be profitable. This is the first remaster I know of in history that allows console player to mod the content of their games not an insignificant added feature. ! warning wall of text ! I'm someone who will let beth raw-dog me all my life, and will definitely get the next game too. I have also been sucking their dick about 64-bit so I do personally agree that it is a big deal. But I think you are misunderstanding this thread, and possibly even a lot about beth too. This thread is mostly us hating beth for being money-hungry, lazy, arseholes. Despite being 64-bit being extremely useful, it's almost certain they did it not for the modding community, but for console players, so that they could sell a 5 year old game at retail price with the promise of mods to casuals. Now if I were a casual I prolly wouldn't hate beth so much, but the fact is, they gave it to us for free likely because they new how much the modding community would flip a b*tch if they expected us to pay full retail price for just a better engine(since that's the only part we care about) after everything else they have done since oldrim's release(see paid modding for starters). We know from beth's own accounts and from looking inside the engine, that sse first and foremost is aimed at consoles players. Now if the company was about to go bankrupt, this might be acceptable, but this is just the beginning of it. Because now we are getting all kinds of reports from big names in the modding scene talking about how they expected the cre-kit beta to be a fun experience to pay back pillars of the modding community, and instead, it was beth making sure there would be mods at release for the console plebs. They took advantage of the modding community's good will again. I'm not someone who hates console players, or who thinks a company making money is bad. But when a company decides they are going to ignore the pc players(their most important demographic) in favor of the console players, and make the game shittier because they are sacrificing things to try and sell more copies, then they are prioritizing money TOO much, and showing us they, are not likely to change their ways. For the first 5-ish days, I was glad about sse and had hopes about beth thhinking they learned their mistakes from skyrim, eso, and fo4. But that was because beth had a gag-order on the beta-modders. They weren't aloud to talk about the game until after it came out, or at the very least many of them were not told whether or not they could. This resulted in the release being good and the response being bad. Beth expected the modding community to fix their games, now that they are selling mods to consoles in the form of a 5yo game at retail price, they are now expecting the modding community to sell their game for them. Unacceptable. #bethesdasux -snip- Ignoring facts to push my narrative? Oh, so basically doing the same thing you're doing, right? "All pc users get it free." Hey speaking of facts; here's a fact you should put into that little mind of yours: PC users who have "all of the DLC" get it free. Not everyone bought all of the DLC... Also; I don't ignore facts, I ignore bullshit. There's a difference. I'm not sure that's entirely fair. Ever since beth announced pc players with all dlcs would get it for free, websites have been having sales on and off. Some of them for as low as $1 dollar for all the dlc. So the only excuse to not have the dlc before the game came out was not knowing you get it for free if you have the dlc. I am not sure I follow you. how has Bethesda screwed over PC players? We got it free and as you said any moron using the excuse of I don't have the DLC is transferring their own anger at themselves onto Bethesda. They gave us a free upgrade to an engine that eliminates the 4 gb memory limitation that allows for impressive modding. The ability of the engine to handle large numbers of NPCs in a given cell means to more Civil war mods that see combatants just standing because the engine can't control that many bodies. This isn't an insignificant boost. Rivers actually flow in the direction of a river not in a single direction. Yes the remaster was geared to improve console users experience primarily but not exclusively, but pray tell me how does that hurt you? How is that an insult? how is improving one groups experience of skyrim lessening your experience? PC users got huge benefits that the ignorant are ignoring. The jump to 64 bit is the most important change to SSE and we pc users can make the most out of this benefit. Allowing console users access to mods (at least xbone users PS4 users get an inferior experience but that is on Sony not Bethesda. Also SSE is below full retain price, SSE is $50 CND which is $30 less than what I pay for a AAA title today. So not sure why people think this is a rip off. Oldrim sells for $44 CND for the game and all the DLCs, so again hardly this huge money grap. The facts don't line up with the critisisms. 1) Money grab - Well it was free for the players that would benefit from the upgrade the least hardly a gesture that should be brushed off. So many companies wouldn't have made such a gesture at all. The benefits are of substance and not merely cosmetic. Console users got value from this upgrade they got access to mods and I challenge anyone to honestly say that is an insignificant benefit. Do they have complete access to all the mods PC users get? No but how is that a problem to PC users how are we hurt by this? How are console users hurt by giving them access to something they never had before? Well "PC gamers would b!tch if they made us pay for it..," how the F@ck is that a strike against Bethesda? OMFG they didn't make us pay for it they told us right at the reveal that PC gamers would get it free if we owned the game and all the DLCs. So why are they money grabbing for something they DIDN'T do? 2) SSE is lazy? Really lazy? How is putting most of the changes to the game under the hood so to speak instead of simply upgrading the textures, lazy? Lazy remasters are like marvel universe games by activation. The controls didn't work on PC for keyboard or controllers. When you spend the budget on a remaster in improving the engine and physics (water flowing in multiple directions around objects for example) jumping from 32 bit to 64 bit which isn't as simple as just recompiling the 32 bit engine into a 64 bit engine. You are getting real improvements not just a prettier paint job. How is this lazy? This is a remaster remember not a completely new game, it was only ever pitched to people as a remaster. They never promised or implied new content. 3) They released the creation kit early and use that to have mods available for console players at launch. How is that a bloody bad thing? It gives creators a chance to see the new creation kit and learn its idiosyncrasies and it give players mods. This is known as mutually beneficial, just because one side also gets a benefit doesn't negate the benefit we got. And again how does this action HURT PC gamers? How are we injured by this action? How does this lessen our gaming experience? The answer is it doesn't . 4)"But when a company decides they are going to ignore the pc players(their most important demographic) in favor of the console players, and make the game shittier because they are sacrificing things to try and sell more copies..." WTF? The game is BETTER for PC users. How is SSE sh!tter for Pc gamers? In what instance is SSE worse than Oldrim? This is your direct quote. You said we are ignored and they made the game sh!ttier, give me an example how SSE is sh!tter for PC players? You can't be so self centred that unless PC users get something only THEY can use it means PC users are ignored and sh!t upon, are you? Are you trying to tell me the benefits to gamers are a zero sum game? Every benefit a console player gets is a benefit a PC player loses or doesn't count as a benefit? Come on. 5) Using modders to sell their games. Unacceptable. So the alternative is that Bethesda makes their next game unmoddable because god forbid they use the strength of a dying feature in gaming modability as a selling point? This makes no sense. by this logic any feature in their games that strengthens modding can be used as an excuse to accuse Bethesda of using mods and by extension modders to sell their games. This is logically inconsistent, you can't use mods personally to improve your gaming experience and then hate on the company that uses this feature to sell their games. Mods are a FEATURE of the game a feature that isn't an after thought but that is part of the core of the games feature set. It is perfectly acceptable to use this feature as a selling point and use mods to show player just what a better experience the game is. WTF do you think PC gamers who own consoles as well will choose to buy the game on PC? Because of MODS mods sell the game on PC and always have and it was the modders that sold the game. Because if modders didn't make the mods we love we would have no mods. On PC this is acceptable but when Bethesda does the same thing on Consoles it is money grubbing and unacceptable? How do you square that circle? 6) Using modders to fix their games. This is something that is overblown by most mod users. First most mods are not game fixes. They are enhancements and tweaks. Changing how x feature works to make it more in line with your subjective tastes isn't a bug fix. Fixing a missing texture is a bug fix but improving a set of textures to be of a better quality isn't a bug fix. This is not to say that bug don't exist and that modders don't fix them but it isn't as ubiquitous as you imply. Does Bethesda make the game knowing that some things will be changes by players? yes the key is they give people a decent game vanilla and allow people to take this base skeleton and improve on it. If the base games is as bad as some PC users imply this game wouldn't have been a hit on consoles. Bethesda games are console hits so the base game has to have some value to some people. So I don't think you are being fair. And just to be clear I am boycotting Bethesda games the first month of release (as in I wont buy their games until one month after release) so I am no mindless fanboi but it amazes me that people are QQ over BS and ignoring the fact that Bethesda is trying to limit professional reviews on their products and giving "influencers" access to their game early so they can get day more uniformed day one purchases. But I haven't seen a single 'real' issue being raised why SSE is sh!te. It is just game BS. You should crawl Bethesda in the ass. I need 3-4 years to get my Oldrim perfect!And one is sure SSE I never get perfect! Because quite simply different mods, will not be available for SSE, As for example SG hair pack 268, 350.And moreover, I have no desire again 3-4 years only to screw around and again the same game, I'm tired! Oh for F@ck sake. This is what makes gamers the worst consumers in the world. They have a hissy fit because when given a free choice to play SSE or Oldrim, allowing players to decide for themselves if they see value in making the change to SSE or if they don't remaining with oldrim they feel Bethesda didn't suck their c@cks enough. You have a perfect skyrim your own bloody words. so tell me how the f@ck does the existence of SSE ruin your perfect skyrim? Why is giving player a choice a problem? Why does giving players a FREE choice make Bethesda the bad guys here? What you feel cheated because you already have the perfect game and Bethesda didn't make it "more" perfect? You are not hurt by choosing not to play SSE and you are not hurt by SSE existing and you are not hurt by just playing a 'perfect oldrim.' So if the game you modded is perfect, again YOUR WORDS, why are you bitching about a free game you wont use? How are you harmed? Players that only use, but don't create, stand to lose a lot when creators split and migrate. Plus, people love to bitch, moan, and can be incredibly averse to change. I mean, what do you expect from those that continually show they can never be satisfied with anything?
winny257 Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Fallout 1 released - on September 30, 1997Fallout 2 released - on September 30, 1998Morrowind released - on September 12, 2002Oblivion released - on March, 2006Fallout 3 released - on October 2008Fallout new vegas released - on October 21, 2010Skyrim released - on 11 november 2011Fallout 4 released - on November 10, 2015TES 6 released - on ??????????? With this list can their love Elder Scroll fans see, what games series more was developed!And then one will last but not least, With a dirty Skyrim remaster fobbed off.
yatol Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Why are you wasting your time asking me how I'm wasting my time? because i have nothing better to do? was expecting some critics about the game here, new shaders vs old, the stuff add to climate, those godrays that kill performance for some... it's just some useless taunt war, funny stuff so i join^^ yes i had nothing better to do than taunting the one that was saying sse is better because it have x mods and y downloads like i had nothing better to do than taunting your taunt you don't play sse, i don't play sse, we have nothing to say here
slutofshades Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Fallout 1 released - on September 30, 1997 Fallout 2 released - on September 30, 1998 Morrowind released - on September 12, 2002 Oblivion released - on March, 2006 Fallout 3 released - on October 2008 Fallout new vegas released - on October 21, 2010 Skyrim released - on 11 november 2011 Fallout 4 released - on November 10, 2015 TES 6 released - on ??????????? With this list can their love Elder Scroll fans see, what games series more was developed! And then one will last but not least, With a dirty Skyrim remaster fobbed off. You list Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.... which were made by.. interplay? I think... and not Bethesda... and Fallout New Vegas which was made by... oh yes, Obsidian, and not Bethesda... And yet missed out Daggerfall and Arena? You're aware that Morrowind was the THIRD game, yes? I'm guessing the point this post was trying to make it seem that Bethesda care more about Fallout than TES? And thats why there are more fallouts on the list than TES? And why they have made Fallout 4 but not TES 6?.... honestly though I'm just guessing, I've no clue what your point is....
DymeDef Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Fallout 1 released - on September 30, 1997 Fallout 2 released - on September 30, 1998 Morrowind released - on September 12, 2002 Oblivion released - on March, 2006 Fallout 3 released - on October 2008 Fallout new vegas released - on October 21, 2010 Skyrim released - on 11 november 2011 Fallout 4 released - on November 10, 2015 TES 6 released - on ??????????? With this list can their love Elder Scroll fans see, what games series more was developed! And then one will last but not least, With a dirty Skyrim remaster fobbed off. Fallout 1 and 2 made by interplay, Bethesda literally had absolutely NOTHING to do with thsoe games. Fallout New Vegas, PUBLISHED by Bethesda, DEVELOPED by Obsidian. Daggerfall and Arena are missing from your game, you know it's called The Elder Scrolls 5 for a reason, right? Next time do some research before trying to come up with some bullshit. It will help you not sound like you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about (which you obviously do not). TES is far more developed as a series than Fallout, namely because Fallout has seen a major revision to its gameplay. Before it was an Iso top down turn based game (BG, IWD, PST, etc). A "dirty" remaster? Lol, that dirty remaster can handle 5x more shit going on in its game then your "perfect" 32 bit Skyrims could ever dream of handling. All I see is a bunch of children who were spoiled rotten and now they don't know how to react other than stomp their feet and cry when something isn't exactly what they want. Basically theres a bunch of kids running around screaming about some "inferior" game that is literally better in every way possible compared to the oldrim. Problem is, these numbskulls (more like brainless, but I'll be a little more polite) compare a full modded out game with 5 years to "perfect" to a re-released game that was built to be the stepping stone for Fallout 4, not be a game that was supposed to be a new release. Again, if these cry baby children did any reading or research or had a brain, they would understand. Unfortunately there is no cure for stupid, its an infectious disease that spreads like wildfire over the internet as I'm sure most of you already know.
winny257 Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Fallout 1 released - on September 30, 1997 Fallout 2 released - on September 30, 1998 Morrowind released - on September 12, 2002 Oblivion released - on March, 2006 Fallout 3 released - on October 2008 Fallout new vegas released - on October 21, 2010 Skyrim released - on 11 november 2011 Fallout 4 released - on November 10, 2015 TES 6 released - on ??????????? With this list can their love Elder Scroll fans see, what games series more was developed! And then one will last but not least, With a dirty Skyrim remaster fobbed off. You list Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.... which were made by.. interplay? I think... and not Bethesda... and Fallout New Vegas which was made by... oh yes, Obsidian, and not Bethesda... And yet missed out Daggerfall and Arena? You're aware that Morrowind was the THIRD game, yes? I'm guessing the point this post was trying to make it seem that Bethesda care more about Fallout than TES? And thats why there are more fallouts on the list than TES? And why they have made Fallout 4 but not TES 6?.... honestly though I'm just guessing, I've no clue what your point is.... Fallout 1 Publishers Interplay Entertainment 14 Degrees East Bethesda Softworks https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Fallout+1+release+date Fallout 2 Publishers Black Isle Studios Daggerfall and Arena are not worth mentioning, they were more than Buggy! I have both played.
DymeDef Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Fallout 1 released - on September 30, 1997 Fallout 2 released - on September 30, 1998 Morrowind released - on September 12, 2002 Oblivion released - on March, 2006 Fallout 3 released - on October 2008 Fallout new vegas released - on October 21, 2010 Skyrim released - on 11 november 2011 Fallout 4 released - on November 10, 2015 TES 6 released - on ??????????? With this list can their love Elder Scroll fans see, what games series more was developed! And then one will last but not least, With a dirty Skyrim remaster fobbed off. You list Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.... which were made by.. interplay? I think... and not Bethesda... and Fallout New Vegas which was made by... oh yes, Obsidian, and not Bethesda... And yet missed out Daggerfall and Arena? You're aware that Morrowind was the THIRD game, yes? I'm guessing the point this post was trying to make it seem that Bethesda care more about Fallout than TES? And thats why there are more fallouts on the list than TES? And why they have made Fallout 4 but not TES 6?.... honestly though I'm just guessing, I've no clue what your point is.... Fallout 1 Publishers Interplay Entertainment 14 Degrees East Bethesda Softworks https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Fallout+1+release+date Fallout 2 Publishers Black Isle Studios Daggerfall and Arena are not worth mentioning, they were more than Buggy! I have both played. Lol, the logical fallacy in this is too funny. Thanks for proving my points. Also, Fallout 1 had nothing to do with Bethesda. Read the wiki even, Interplay sold the rights to Bethesda whothen made Fallout 3. Black Isle is NOT Bethesda, yes some of the developers went from Black Isle to Bethesda after they shut down, but that does NOT mean Bethesda is Black Isle. Almost all of Diablo 2's developers went to Hellgate London, you don't see them considering themselves Blizzard do you? No. Also, you still never responded to the fact that Obsidian made New Vegas, yet youre still inclined to disregard Arena and Daggerfall? Lol, youre too funny
slutofshades Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Fallout 1 released - on September 30, 1997 Fallout 2 released - on September 30, 1998 Morrowind released - on September 12, 2002 Oblivion released - on March, 2006 Fallout 3 released - on October 2008 Fallout new vegas released - on October 21, 2010 Skyrim released - on 11 november 2011 Fallout 4 released - on November 10, 2015 TES 6 released - on ??????????? With this list can their love Elder Scroll fans see, what games series more was developed! And then one will last but not least, With a dirty Skyrim remaster fobbed off. You list Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.... which were made by.. interplay? I think... and not Bethesda... and Fallout New Vegas which was made by... oh yes, Obsidian, and not Bethesda... And yet missed out Daggerfall and Arena? You're aware that Morrowind was the THIRD game, yes? I'm guessing the point this post was trying to make it seem that Bethesda care more about Fallout than TES? And thats why there are more fallouts on the list than TES? And why they have made Fallout 4 but not TES 6?.... honestly though I'm just guessing, I've no clue what your point is.... Fallout 1 Publishers Interplay Entertainment 14 Degrees East Bethesda Softworks https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Fallout+1+release+date Fallout 2 Publishers Black Isle Studios Daggerfall and Arena are not worth mentioning, they were more than Buggy! I have both played. Published by so and so.... but they were developed by Interplay, created by Interplay... Bethesda Game Studios bought the license and IP from Interplay and then went on to create Fallout 3 and beyond... entirely different creative minds. If you go by the development teams, Wasteland 2 is the real Fallout 3, and Wastland 3 shall be the real Fallout 4. And just because -you- disliked Daggerfall and Arena doesn't really justify you leaving them off a list when you are trying to make a bullshit point Winny-poo. You've had this issue with distinguishing the difference between a Publishing company and a development team before, when you said there was no reason that TES 6 shouldn't be done already because Bethesda had over 10,000 staff.... when you -reaaaally- meant Bethesda Softworks, Zenimax and all the subsiduaries (atleast based on the artical you touted as proof) EDIT : Ohhh... you just, googled fallout 1 and found the ittle google summary box that lists Publishers for (all) of the Fallout Series... you know, Fallout Series, as in, Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, 3, New Vegas and 4
Shiratama Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Apparently Bethesda listened to behippo and removed massive Edit/Continue jump tables from Beta 1.2. This means significant performance gains in cities mainly. Hopefully they'll keep fixing stuff for a while. Edit: And yeah Fallout 1 and 2 have nothing to do with Bethesda. Neither do Tactics nor Brotherhood of Steel for that matter. The latter's existance proves that Beth aren't the only ones who can make bad Fallouts.
slutofshades Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Apparently Bethesda listened to behippo and removed massive Edit/Continue jump tables from Beta 1.2. This means significant performance gains in cities mainly. Hopefully they'll keep fixing stuff for a while. I'd have been sincerely disappointed if they had not....
TamaChan Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 -snip- Basically theres a bunch of kids running around screaming about some "inferior" game that is literally better in every way possible compared to the oldrim. Problem is, these numbskulls (more like brainless, but I'll be a little more polite) compare a full modded out game with 5 years to "perfect" to a re-released game that was built to be the stepping stone for Fallout 4, not be a game that was supposed to be a new release. Again, if these cry baby children did any reading or research or had a brain, they would understand. Unfortunately there is no cure for stupid, its an infectious disease that spreads like wildfire over the internet as I'm sure most of you already know. Not necessarily. Perfect game definitely not, better in every way, absolutely not. More importantly, mostly just annoyed at many of the extra features that seemed unnecessary, laziness on beth's part, and especially them causing problems again. When I get my oldrim data off my old hard drive I plan on getting back to work converting mods and such, but for now I have not a whole lot to do. What I can do however is point out that beth is definitely not doing nearly as good as should be expected of them. When we lower our standards and let companies get away being lazy, assholes, money hungry, etc.; we end up with companies like ea. And I do not want beth to end up like ea. I like their games, and from where I watch, it seems that with every new game they release, the company is becoming worse and worse. I love the sims, but ea is shit. I don't want in a few years it to be I love es and fo, but beth is shit. More importantly this thread is meant to be a place where we can bitch and moan. You literally made an account just to insult us. If you wanna have a conversation of some of the ups and downs of sse, like some of us were doing earlier, then welcome. But why come into a thread dedicated to criticizing sse, and insult everyone who criticizes sse.
Guest enip Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Skyrim on a 64bit engine would of been more interesting back in 2011 rather than 2016 created right after oldrim. There wouldn't have been a SSE and it would of saved so many headaches. Regardless if it didn't support console mods because there would be no way to release another Skyrim just for console mods if there was absolutely no benefit for the PC users. SSE's only benefit is 64bit engine and that's the only reason why it even exists. Not because of console mods. Console mods is just a catch for console gamers to throw more money at Bethesda. 64bit engine is a catch for those who don't own all the DLCs that have to buy Skyrim all over again. It's pretty fucked up from Bethesda that you have to own all the DLCs to have SSE. Apparently they think that the real modders for Skyrim own the game and all of its DLCs, or the Legendary Edition. So if you were a modder who had spend thousands of hours creating great mods for Skyrim but never felt the desire to own Hearthfire, Bethesda doesn't give a shit about you. If you don't buy into their BS (Hearthfire) you are NOT a true and loyal fan, nor are you a true modder. You don't deserve a copy of SSE for free. Console mods for Elders Scrolls would have pushed foward to be on TES6 and not SSE. That would of put more focus on the next Elders Scroll game and possibly a closer date for its release. Or Bethesda could of just taken and older game and remake it with the inclusion of mods and that would of been more even more interesting. I just have my doubts that the current gen gamers really care about anything older than Skyrim because it seems like Bethesda is aiming for the type that only cares about killing and killing more stuff, and less reading and thinking. Too much reading and critical thinking would scare those 'I just want to kill stuff' type away. Fallout 4 is a prime example of that with weapon and armor degradation completely removed, and their continuance of brainless enemies because of their dreadful AI integration in their games.
Jormungandr Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Not seeing the point of this whole remastering hype. Or trend, or whatever the hell this is supposed to be. I like that consoleros finally get in on the modding fun but that's about it of what I find in it. As for the whole 'remastered' graphics in SSE, because that's really all there is to it aside from the 64 bit jump which was... not even necessary as far as I am aware of, modders have 'remastered' the elder scrolls games since The Construction Kit and the Creation Kit came out back then starting with TES3: Morrowind. We have ENBs, texture mods galore, reshapes and remodels of practically everything by now. Even those fucking ants on the treestump in Riverwood no one looks even at with their ass. Yes even they got a mod to look better. The point to it is none, save for maybe from an industrial perspective to put a successful game title once more into the spotlights. Spotlights it never left in my oppinion, but that's just my oppinion after all. The only real gripe I have with SEE and in fact the Legendary Edition is the brutal stupidity the internet is spreading by itself. There are a million of 'guides' popping up on youtube - again. Now labeled with "SKYRIM SPECIAL EDITION" like it changes something to the actual game. Which it clearly doesn't. In other words, it became a tool of glorification and passive youtube clickbait. This happened with the legendary edition before. Funniest part here would be propably bug reports from users to modders where it's stated "I have the legendary edition" at the section where you usually pot actual technical information, AKA what is your fucking game version and stuff like that. Here, shit like this. Why people even think to make 'build' videos on a game like skyrim where you decide what the entire game is for yourself, is a complete miracle to me. Everything needs to have 'builds' nowadays, builds and guides, let none use their own brain for anything anymore - again especially in a game like skyrim. It's ridiculous. Oh wait.. it's special.
dinomagick Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Since the SkyrimSE Update/patch and Patch to Patch the Patch..... Has anyone had trouble loading saves? I couldn't load any of my old Saves this morning and none of them showed up, so I made a new game (since I really was just messing with mods on the old save) and I made a few new saves, got out of the game and did some housecleaning. After a few hours, I came back to take a break and again, all my old saves were gone and it wouldn't load (Continue). Just for testing purposes, I made a new save, saved the game... got out of the game... brought it back up and the same thing, no saves to load... I normally do not run Skyrim as administrator, so I changed that and still no saves even after I tried to create a new game again and went through the whole process I did before. Any thoughts? So, Criticism part of this is that it seems like Bethesda runs a patch, then a patch to fix that patch, and now the game screws up saves and makes to where any modded content is unable to load? Sounds fishy.
winny257 Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 ---snip--- Basically theres a bunch of kids running around screaming about some "inferior" game that is literally better in every way possible compared to the oldrim. Problem is, these numbskulls (more like brainless, but I'll be a little more polite) compare a full modded out game with 5 years to "perfect" to a re-released game that was built to be the stepping stone for Fallout 4, not be a game that was supposed to be a new release. Again, if these cry baby children did any reading or research or had a brain, they would understand. Unfortunately there is no cure for stupid, its an infectious disease that spreads like wildfire over the internet as I'm sure most of you already know. Caution with these statements!! what have you already done for the community? nothing! Two posts written, full of insults, You must know I'm barking not only, I bite! A word from me is enough and you go as you came, because you should also know, In my friend list are also moderators. http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/11/Fuck-you-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-GIF.gif edit: if you're so super smart, then tell me who is the owner of Bethesda. But not on the internet search!
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