HDT SMP for SSE?

[lupus_hegemonia]

21 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

You can use HDT and CBP at the same time without any problems. I use HDT for clothing physics while using CBP-C for body physics with collisions on both male and female bodies.

That's great!
So, without any new/other Skeleton, I simply installing these files?

[lupus_hegemonia]

Is it possible, dear Furry, to write me down exactly what you personally using?
I'm using UNPB (that body type I like), SoS Light (because I made personal custom textures for it), XP32 Skeleton v2+ version (not the new ones) and CBPC for buts/boobs/bellies.

[FauxFurry]

I use the UUNP Special body for females, Ixum's SOS HDT body for males (converted via Cathedral Assets Optimizer), HDT, CBP with Collisions and the XPMSE and its required files. That is really all that one needs to get everything up and moving properly.

[lupus_hegemonia]

If you so kind, to provide me the links of those? To compare what I have installed and what not?

[Vyxenne]

20 hours ago, agiz19 said:

hi.

 

could i  ask anyone to share me a working KS HDT WIGS with collisions, i have been looking and looking and havent found a working one ( maybe im not a great searcher ) , i use CBBE , every version i tried clips  trough body

I have the same issue with KS HDT Wigs and my UUNP bodies. I have gotten several versions of it from several different sources, but in the end they are all the same version.

 

At one time, I think @Gromilla had said collisions should be "automatic" unless they were explicitly turned off in the xml via a no-collide-with tag, but that doesn't seem (to me) to be true with the KS HDT Wigs- they sink through my back, my neck, my arms, my sex partner's face when I'm on top, the floor ... I haven't noticed anything that they actually do collide with.

 

No doubt I need to switch to a version of UUNP that has collision proxies, but so far I haven't found one that has collision proxies AND all the UUNP sliders... although I might have found one but given up on it when I realized that there's apparently no quick, automatic way to replace my Reference Body in all of my outfits with a different version of UUNP with collision proxies, other than manually in Outfit Studio, one outfit at a time- just batch-building the outfits with a different body selected in the Outfit/Body dropdown in BodySlide does not replace the reference body with the one selected. So even if I had a collision-proxy UUNP body with all the sliders, I don't think I would go to all the trouble of replacing the reference shapes in my hundreds of outfits, one outfit at a time.

 

I know that the YunDao SMP Wigs and Azar Ponytail Wigs have collision head and/or body shapes (and virtual ground) built into them and I'm wondering if I could copy the virtual ground and collision body from one of them into my KS HDT Wigs Sky 188 ponytail, because I really like that wig a lot and have made a few recolors of it already.

 

[agiz19]

1 hour ago, Vyxenne said:

I have the same issue with KS HDT Wigs and my UUNP bodies. I have gotten several versions of it from several different sources, but in the end they are all the same version.

 

At one time, I think @Gromilla had said collisions should be "automatic" unless they were explicitly turned off in the xml via a no-collide-with tag, but that doesn't seem (to me) to be true with the KS HDT Wigs- they sink through my back, my neck, my arms, my sex partner's face when I'm on top, the floor ... I haven't noticed anything that they actually do collide with.

 

No doubt I need to switch to a version of UUNP that has collision proxies, but so far I haven't found one that has collision proxies AND all the UUNP sliders... although I might have found one but given up on it when I realized that there's apparently no quick, automatic way to replace my Reference Body in all of my outfits with a different version of UUNP with collision proxies, other than manually in Outfit Studio, one outfit at a time- just batch-building the outfits with a different body selected in the Outfit/Body dropdown in BodySlide does not replace the reference body with the one selected. So even if I had a collision-proxy UUNP body with all the sliders, I don't think I would go to all the trouble of replacing the reference shapes in my hundreds of outfits, one outfit at a time.

 

I know that the YunDao SMP Wigs and Azar Ponytail Wigs have collision head and/or body shapes (and virtual ground) built into them and I'm wondering if I could copy the virtual ground and collision body from one of them into my KS HDT Wigs Sky 188 ponytail, because I really like that wig a lot and have made a few recolors of it already.

 

thanks for  explaining  your end, that "automatic" doent work  for me either , i use CBBE SMP which was  released  not long ago, before i had regular  CBBE and it  didnt work  also  despite setting <margin>  and  <penetration> to  values  osnius stated in this thread long long ago m=0, p=0.2, somewhat when i  crouch the hair falls on back and then after a second it starts clipping trough head,neck,body - same result using either CBBE body , then i also tried copying  virtual ground and collision body to koala.xml from random Yundao hair xml and later  all  bones...the result was that the hair just became static, and then i lost the will  as i have seen some  people have it working but mostly noone stated which particular body they are using or if they changed any values in xmls, i hope someone  comes forward with the working version or at least clarify what they did to get it working, otherwise all other hairs, BDO, Yundao, azar pony tale work except KS HDT WIGS.

[agiz19]

21 hours ago, pikarooh said:

I have similar problem but only on certain "bodies".

 

I picked versio that just has smp collisions active with equitable item. However when I equip it on some characters all my physic enabled body parts sink in/dissapear, but on some characters it works like its supposed to work. I tested some who were customized via race-menu sliders and some who weren't varying luck and no correlation between levels of customization seemed to be.

 

EDIT:

I managed to get this character working just by porting to whiterun. Does that even make sense... I tried to do similar trick with other character that didn't work and no luck.

 

 

picture for reference:

 

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would you  mind explaining which bodies it works and which dont ? also that picture doesnt work

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Vyxenne said:

I have the same issue with KS HDT Wigs and my UUNP bodies. I have gotten several versions of it from several different sources, but in the end they are all the same version.

 

At one time, I think @Gromilla had said collisions should be "automatic" unless they were explicitly turned off in the xml via a no-collide-with tag, but that doesn't seem (to me) to be true with the KS HDT Wigs- they sink through my back, my neck, my arms, my sex partner's face when I'm on top, the floor ... I haven't noticed anything that they actually do collide with.

 

No doubt I need to switch to a version of UUNP that has collision proxies, but so far I haven't found one that has collision proxies AND all the UUNP sliders... although I might have found one but given up on it when I realized that there's apparently no quick, automatic way to replace my Reference Body in all of my outfits with a different version of UUNP with collision proxies, other than manually in Outfit Studio, one outfit at a time- just batch-building the outfits with a different body selected in the Outfit/Body dropdown in BodySlide does not replace the reference body with the one selected. So even if I had a collision-proxy UUNP body with all the sliders, I don't think I would go to all the trouble of replacing the reference shapes in my hundreds of outfits, one outfit at a time.

 

I know that the YunDao SMP Wigs and Azar Ponytail Wigs have collision head and/or body shapes (and virtual ground) built into them and I'm wondering if I could copy the virtual ground and collision body from one of them into my KS HDT Wigs Sky 188 ponytail, because I really like that wig a lot and have made a few recolors of it already.

 

The problem happens with the body ,no collision, when the character is dressed some work properly.

Happens for most hair, some are ok.

means that it would be possible to solve, to compare hair, what one has and the other does not have to cause such an effect.

 

 

[nappilydeestruction]

 

On 9/6/2019 at 4:27 PM, Kokan said:

For me, the appearance of the body itself plays a lot more, it looks much more natural to me. like in real life I can't stand silicone breasts, the plastic look of a doll. That’s why I’m always for unp regardless of physics. but the fact is that there are many more cbbc users than unp. Taste for nicely formed through the porn industry and Hollywood.

 

On 9/6/2019 at 6:03 PM, Vyxenne said:

OMG thank you! What I don't understand is how so many girls get fake boobs and then flaunt them as though they don't understand how repulsive they are... don't they have a mirror? Also, they feel completely different, not erotic at all, and many girls lose the feeling in their nipples when they get fake boobs.  I just can't imagine doing that.

 

Even my "adult-version" loading screen art depicts several girls with big, fake breasts so there must be people who actually prefer the "fake, plastic, lumpy blob" look...

 

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but I had thought that I was the only one who detests fake boobs until I saw your post.

I know this is an old response from @Vyxenne and @Kokanbut I too cannot stand fake boobs!  As a big boob person myself it makes me sad that many girls (not all) feel the need to get their boobs done just to gain confidence.  I was a very skinny girl when i was a kid I never thought in a million years that I would get bigger boobs.  I never even thought of big boobs in the first place, i mean i was a kid lol.  But thank you for not making me feel alone on that topic

[Guest]

1 hour ago, nappilydeestruction said:

 

 

I know this is an old response from @Vyxenne and @Kokanbut I too cannot stand fake boobs!  As a big boob person myself it makes me sad that many girls (not all) feel the need to get their boobs done just to gain confidence.  I was a very skinny girl when i was a kid I never thought in a million years that I would get bigger boobs.  I never even thought of big boobs in the first place, i mean i was a kid lol.  But thank you for not making me feel alone on that topic

Everyone loves natural breasts, nothing can replace them. The fact is that people are attracted to women's expressed attributes, some women very skillfully use and abuse them. We are hormone slaves for the rest of our lives ... and we enjoy it. ?

[Lucifeller]

I think the only people who can possibly hate breasts are the ones who were never breastfed as infants >_>

[daedrasp]

 

3bb morph

17bb morph

 

We need more Breast Bone!! 17BB LoL!!

But its UUNP only. Need CBBE(SSE) version.

[full_inu]

56 minutes ago, daedrasp said:

We need more Breast Bone!! 17BB LoL!!

But its UUNP only. Need CBBE(SSE) version.

OK, now it looks believable.

[Guest]

Ok, hold my beer...

 

 

[duzellx]

well in current SE you can do hdt smp, cbp(c) or both in combo

 

 

[Vyxenne]

20 hours ago, agiz19 said:

otherwise all other hairs, BDO, Yundao, azar pony tale work except KS HDT WIGS.

Just as info, the recently-released Dint's Hair Pack has good collisions as well, so as you say, it seems that most/all of the SMP wigs except KS HDT Wigs work well. It's a shame, too, but watching the longer styles just fall through my body is pretty much of a buzzkill for me.

[Vyxenne]

20 hours ago, Kokan said:

The problem happens with the body ,no collision, when the character is dressed some work properly.

Happens for most hair, some are ok.

means that it would be possible to solve, to compare hair, what one has and the other does not have to cause such an effect.

As far as I can tell, all of the YunDao wigs (SSE version 4.9) have good collisions whether dressed or nude because they have collision proxies built into the wig meshes instead of depending on users to adopt proxy bodies and manually convert all their outfits to it:

 

The Dint wigs also have their own collision proxies in the wig mesh, with the same result:

 

On the other hand, the KS HDT Wigs meshes do not have collision proxies, and (as you said) may or may not have collisions, depending on whether or not the body in use (which can be different depending on whether or not the character is dressed) has collision shapes:

 

So it seems pretty clear to me- collision proxies in the wig mesh (and xml tags to support hair collisions with the proxy) is the way to go if you want good collisions, and certainly easier than users having to replace the reference body in hundreds of outfit meshes.

[Jay1646]

13 hours ago, Kokan said:

Everyone loves natural breasts, nothing can replace them. The fact is that people are attracted to women's expressed attributes, some women very skillfully use and abuse them. We are hormone slaves for the rest of our lives ... and we enjoy it. ?

Very true!

 

btw, where did you get those lovely dance animations from??

[rb888]

Finally got working sliders again don't know what went wrong lol. Now updated more mods. And Bad dog Furry for UNP stuff

[Gromilla]

43 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

 

So it seems pretty clear to me- collision proxies in the wig mesh (and xml tags to support hair collisions with the proxy) is the way to go if you want good collisions, and certainly easier than users having to replace the reference body in hundreds of outfit meshes.

Yep. This is not the only but the most optimal method in terms of performance.
If you need to adapt some wigs from this package, tell me which ones. I will do.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Jay1646 said:

Very true!

 

btw, where did you get those lovely dance animations from??

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/29512

[agiz19]

3 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

Just as info, the recently-released Dint's Hair Pack has good collisions as well, so as you say, it seems that most/all of the SMP wigs except KS HDT Wigs work well. It's a shame, too, but watching the longer styles just fall through my body is pretty much of a buzzkill for me.

i agree  buzzkill indeed   also  thanks  for  dint hair info, will check it out

[Guest]

 

[Jay1646]

5 hours ago, Kokan said:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/29512

Thank you

[akimaruto]

On 11/6/2019 at 11:25 PM, Jay1646 said:

Why thank you.

 

It is actually, alot easier than I thought...

 

I got the instructions on how to add it from the "CBBE SMP" page on Nexus:

 

 

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How to convert an existing CBBE SE (BodySlide) conversion to CBBE SMP

 

1. "File -> Load Project":
2. Choose the "SliderSets\CBBE Body SMP.osp" file in your BodySlide folder.
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3. "File -> Add Project":
4. Choose the existing *.osp file of the outfit from your "BodySlide\SliderSets" folder.
   If there are multiple projects in the *.osp file, choose the one you wish to convert in the dialog after the file selection.
   Ignore any warnings about renamed duplicate shapes (this is most likely going to be the "CBBE" shape).
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5. Delete "CBBE_outfit" from the meshes list to the top right (if it exists).
6. (optional) If genitals aren't exposed by the outfit, delete the "Labia" and "VirtualVagina" from the meshes list as well.
7. ---
8. Select all meshes that came with the outfit project (don't select CBBE, Labia or any of the Virtual* meshes).
9. "Shape -> Copy Bone Weights".
10. (optional) Do the usual weighting tweaks after a bone weight copy.
11. ---
12. "File -> Save Project As":
13. Change the display name and the files to save the new project to.
    You don't want to overwrite any of the original files so that you can have both the non-SMP and the SMP project installed.

 

 

 

 

thanks for the instructions , indeed it's easy to use  

 

and i have a last question but i don't know if it's possible and if someone know this

 

is it possible to get the nude body with the physic of 3BBB and get all the clothes smp working with the CBBE SMP physic ?

 

currently if i try to build all my armor set with 3BBB (use the batch build option of bodyslide ), only the butt have physic and boobs have lost all movement.