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Posted
4 hours ago, gurugeorge said:

 

Musing: is it possible to have CBPC/HDT SMP breasts actually colliding with and being flattened by the inside of the mesh of a rigid leather or steel armor?

 

Sadly, I just checked out the armor too and found out it wasn't for SSE nor is it SMP for LE. I checked out the mesh and it uses some strange "slim push down" body and appears to be missing breast bones. I assume it's not a UNP derivative so I can't just rename it and repaint the body to make it work in SSE. Prz is such a tease.

 

As for using armor to "flatten boobs" I suppose it's possible with the right XMLs but it's much more performance friendly, as prz said, to use a "squished" base body mesh and paint the weights so only the parts sticking out move. That's how the leather armor is done in the Misty mod. Of course, it's also possible to make the boobs completely free from the armor and have the armor simply block the view of the body like the Sovngarde armor. That said, I've seen no other examples of this kind of creative SMP costume design done in SSE most likely due to the added complexity which makes it much harder to adapt to many body types.

 

edit: Speak of the devil! SunJeong came out for us again. An older mod and not exactly what you're asking for but a unique use of cloth to cover the "assets" with SMP object<->body interactions.  Some slight clipping but a fun idea nonetheless.

https://sunkeumjeong.wixsite.com/mysite/post/rm-barbaric-boob-armor

Posted
16 hours ago, rb888 said:

Still no fiber yet. Still being connected in the area :( lol Still on Unlimtedville T-mobile lol

I'm praying I hope get fiber installed in the home soon before end month. Because it's huge download for shadowkeep in Destiny 2 like 60 gigs lol

I have a little Windows utility called Insomnia. It keeps my computer from sleeping when it is active. When I have a large download to do, I launch it as I'm going to bed, then launch Insomnia and turn my monitor off. When I come back to it 8-10-12 hours later, the download is done and I have had ZERO down time as far as bogging my machine down with a gag-a-maggot download while I'm trying to play a game or whatever.

 

Yes, you can accomplish the same effect by modifying your power scheme to stop the machine from sleeping, but then later you have to remember to undo that, and so on. Insomnia is just SO much easier.

Posted
7 hours ago, zzyyxx said:

I would use different XML files for the outfits with different bones.  The easiest way to do that, would just be to rename the shape of the naked body to something like TBD3BoneBody, and point your defaultBBPs to use the TBD XML with that shape, then leave the TBDBody shape from the outfit replacer to use an XML file that doesn't include the 3 bone boobs, and vagina/anus collision.

 

like:

 

<map shape="TBDBody" file="SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\TBDNonNude.xml"/>

<map shape="TBD3BoneBody" file="SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\TBD.xml"/>

 

Then make the edits in Outfit Studio to have your nude body shape be renamed as TBD3BoneBody

Make sense i will do that ? thanks for your help Talos guide you

Posted
5 hours ago, cminnow said:

Sadly, I just checked out the armor too and found out it wasn't for SSE nor is it SMP for LE. I checked out the mesh and it uses some strange "slim push down" body and appears to be missing breast bones. I assume it's not a UNP derivative so I can't just rename it and repaint the body to make it work in SSE. Prz is such a tease.

 

As for using armor to "flatten boobs" I suppose it's possible with the right XMLs but it's much more performance friendly, as prz said, to use a "squished" base body mesh and paint the weights so only the parts sticking out move. That's how the leather armor is done in the Misty mod. Of course, it's also possible to make the boobs completely free from the armor and have the armor simply block the view of the body like the Sovngarde armor. That said, I've seen no other examples of this kind of creative SMP costume design done in SSE most likely due to the added complexity which makes it much harder to adapt to many body types.

 

edit: Speak of the devil! SunJeong came out for us again. An older mod and not exactly what you're asking for but a unique use of cloth to cover the "assets" with SMP object<->body interactions.  Some slight clipping but a fun idea nonetheless.

https://sunkeumjeong.wixsite.com/mysite/post/rm-barbaric-boob-armor

Haha, cute :)

 

Oh well, interesting little by-way.  Thanks for your thoughts and considerations, I guess we connoisseurs just have to eke out what we can lol

Posted

Hi, I've got a couple of questions:

1. is it possible to have SMP for naked bodies and CBPC for clothed bodies?

2. Can you get CBPC to only target certain bodies e.g. only CBBE bodies.  While you can have smp targeting TBD bodies.

 

I've tried using a SMP TBD body for naked bodies and CBPC for my armours (with a CBBE reference body) but I get weird deforming limbs when doing certain animations. (tried this a month ago and I gave up)

 

The reason for this if I just use SMP for everything my fps takes a huge hit when I have more than 6 or so female characters nearby but less of a hit when I am inside a house. So I currently have SMP taking care of smp clothes and CPBC for everything else.

 

Pc specs:

Ryzen 5 2600 4ghz

RTX 2070

16gb RAM

Posted
6 hours ago, rijjz1 said:

Hi, I've got a couple of questions:

1. is it possible to have SMP for naked bodies and CBPC for clothed bodies?

2. Can you get CBPC to only target certain bodies e.g. only CBBE bodies.  While you can have smp targeting TBD bodies.

 

I've tried using a SMP TBD body for naked bodies and CBPC for my armours (with a CBBE reference body) but I get weird deforming limbs when doing certain animations. (tried this a month ago and I gave up)

 

The reason for this if I just use SMP for everything my fps takes a huge hit when I have more than 6 or so female characters nearby but less of a hit when I am inside a house. So I currently have SMP taking care of smp clothes and CPBC for everything else.

 

Pc specs:

Ryzen 5 2600 4ghz

RTX 2070

16gb RAM

 

SMP can target shape names (naked body) but from what I can see, at best CBPC can target actors by name, or by race.  I don't think it's going to be very easy to have CPBC apply to only certain clothed bodies, and SMP apply to naked bodies, at least not without a decent amount of work.

 

When you say you have 6 female characters and your FPS takes a hit, is that clothed or naked actors?  Because if they are clothed, and you are getting an FPS hit, then it's probably your XML files, and you have some weird collisions going on.  Clothed actors should have a negligible impact on your system, if they are only doing bounce, the only time SMP should ever really get unhappy is if you have meshes colliding inside of each other, and they aren't supposed to.

Posted
16 hours ago, cminnow said:

Sadly, I just checked out the armor too and found out it wasn't for SSE nor is it SMP for LE. I checked out the mesh and it uses some strange "slim push down" body and appears to be missing breast bones. I assume it's not a UNP derivative so I can't just rename it and repaint the body to make it work in SSE. Prz is such a tease.

 

As for using armor to "flatten boobs" I suppose it's possible with the right XMLs but it's much more performance friendly, as prz said, to use a "squished" base body mesh and paint the weights so only the parts sticking out move. That's how the leather armor is done in the Misty mod. Of course, it's also possible to make the boobs completely free from the armor and have the armor simply block the view of the body like the Sovngarde armor. That said, I've seen no other examples of this kind of creative SMP costume design done in SSE most likely due to the added complexity which makes it much harder to adapt to many body types.

 

edit: Speak of the devil! SunJeong came out for us again. An older mod and not exactly what you're asking for but a unique use of cloth to cover the "assets" with SMP object<->body interactions.  Some slight clipping but a fun idea nonetheless.

https://sunkeumjeong.wixsite.com/mysite/post/rm-barbaric-boob-armor

 I seem to remember I think Xinafey's leather corset with the same effect, leather was rigid against the boobs but the exposed boobs on top we're jiggling away. I think there was a Youtube, think he even posted the outfit here on LL. Can't find it though. Was years ago as well.

Posted
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1 hour ago, Kokan said:

UUNP 3BBB  everything works, even the legs ... 

works with hdtsseframework 1.5.73

 

 

 

I would maybe use the body if someone was nice enough to convert the ugly hand wrists and ankles from vanilla to cbbe higher poly ones. I think there is enough verts on both ends to do that. Just don't know 3d to do it myself.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Eu4orick said:
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I would maybe use the body if someone was nice enough to convert the ugly hand wrists and ankles from vanilla to cbbe higher poly ones. I think there is enough verts on both ends to do that. Just don't know 3d to do it myself.

just done, there will definitely be upgrades

Posted

CBBE has a new body revision. More bones and stuff. It's better but still a joke compare to UUNP. I guess better XMLs could take advantage of the new potential but I actually would have preferred that they had made the boobs stiffer rather than.... whatever is currently going on.

Posted
6 hours ago, Eu4orick said:
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I would maybe use the body if someone was nice enough to convert the ugly hand wrists and ankles from vanilla to cbbe higher poly ones. I think there is enough verts on both ends to do that. Just don't know 3d to do it myself.

Well, it's a UUNP-derived body, so why would you want to use CBBE hands, higher polys or not, unless you just enjoy wrist seams?

 

I just discovered some feminine hands along with a slightly different leg ratio and less extreme-position leg and arm distortion in the Better Female Wrist and Leg Ratio Twists for XPMSSE mod. I like it so far and the sex-position distortions do seem to be diminished now. So far, all my UUNP hand and foot stuff (bracelets, watches, rings, nails, toenails) fit fine with no need to rebuild them in BodySlide to fit the new, more feminine hands.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Rynnes Master said:

blah blah blah

OK, I have looked at your avatar for a long time now, getting all wistful-eyed over that wonderful HDT-PE Kuzak pony tail that I miss so badly from Oldrim- there's no amount of HDT Sky 188 goodness that can hold a candle to that particular pony tail.

 

So I thought I'd ask- do you have that pony tail in SSE and if so is it an SMP version? *drool lands on cleavage*

 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Rynnes Master said:

Where is it available?

 

removed, I downloaded at the last second :)

Posted

I dunno what Kokan is saying. UUNP 3BBB is still available on BakaFactory's Patreon (unless Kokan is talking about a download location not authorized by the creator). You might have to be a patreon to download but I don't think you need one of the expensive subscriptions (I have the $30 one to be able to make requests as well as download everything they have available)

Link to the Patreon page for UUNP 3BBB- https://www.patreon.com/posts/uunp-3bbb-vagina-29763602

Posted
37 minutes ago, Butch93h said:

I dunno what Kokan is saying. UUNP 3BBB is still available on BakaFactory's Patreon (unless Kokan is talking about a download location not authorized by the creator). You might have to be a patreon to download but I don't think you need one of the expensive subscriptions (I have the $30 one to be able to make requests as well as download everything they have available)

Link to the Patreon page for UUNP 3BBB- https://www.patreon.com/posts/uunp-3bbb-vagina-29763602

it was posted here in the forum, thanks for the link ...

Posted
3 hours ago, Butch93h said:

I dunno what Kokan is saying. UUNP 3BBB is still available on BakaFactory's Patreon (unless Kokan is talking about a download location not authorized by the creator). You might have to be a patreon to download but I don't think you need one of the expensive subscriptions (I have the $30 one to be able to make requests as well as download everything they have available)

Link to the Patreon page for UUNP 3BBB- https://www.patreon.com/posts/uunp-3bbb-vagina-29763602

paying for uunp edits xd 30$ a month XD

 

Posted

so after instaling the new CBBE everything goes cucumber LOL her tits are hanging in the air when i sneak
hmmm i hope if someone could make a note what and how what should be installed using HDT from the asia site and Sinfull CBP and all this.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Fetterbr said:

so after instaling the new CBBE everything goes cucumber LOL her tits are hanging in the air when i sneak
hmmm i hope if someone could make a note what and how what should be installed using HDT from the asia site and Sinfull CBP and all this.

Nobody could give me a proper answer why the heck one would install two plugins that do the same. Someone posted a full step by step guide on how to do what you want few days ago here.

Posted
On 9/1/2019 at 9:30 PM, prZ said:

How bout you start tweaking the margin values for sos xmls ,not to speak about sos size. Or you are one of those spoon guys?

:D Thank you prZ i Fixed it

and I used bakaFactory UUNP 3Bone body

 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, prZ said:

Nobody could give me a proper answer why the heck one would install two plugins that do the same. Someone posted a full step by step guide on how to do what you want few days ago here.

Maybe i can. Not everyone have a high-end pc, and HDT is a hungry beast, eat the resources. If CBP handle the body, HDT the clothes and wigs, then its better. 

 

And i have seen, that a few people have said, that they dont have any fps drops with full HDT, but i can confirm it is simply a lie. I have i9, 64gb ram, now with a 2080 ti, and i have fps drops if i let HDT to handle everything. 

 

And no, its not HDT fault, it is the old game engine. It have a limit, thats all. 

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