HDT SMP for SSE?

[Shoneleven]

so that is tittyfall i heard a lot

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8 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

OMG @Kokan where did you get the SMP gold hoops?????!!!!!! I've been looking for them since Oldrim!!!!! OMG!!!!

 

Oh, and, um, nice vagina.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/25240

[cminnow]

On 9/4/2019 at 3:47 AM, Vyxenne said:

I still have yet to figure out how more than one breast (or thigh) bone enhances motion, as has been claimed for bodies that have them. I had a new-CBBE follower whose breast physics movement looked no more (or any less) realistic or smooth than my own player character's UUNP breast physics. Both looked great. Has anybody ever seen a side-by-side comparison or demo video showing the alleged superiority of two-node breasts and/or thighs?

UUNP is clearly superior to CBBE as far as boob motion (at least the standard UUNP vs CBBE). I had some comparisons videos but lost my account. RIP. Think of CBBE motion as two moving saucer plates. There's something very wrong with the outer edge motion in CBBE because there's a very rigid transition between moving and non-moving parts. Whereas UUNP has a more distributed pull/stretch that results in more undulating motion and doesn't look as odd at extreme angles and behaves more realistically to sudden changes. The difference is quite stark and the reason I immediately switched to UUNP after observing it in nerdofprey's Misty Adventure mod which happens to use UUNP bodies.

 

Anyway, since apparently the observable difference between CBBE and UUNP has nothing to do with the number of bones, I assume the only real difference must be that UUNP simply has much better body weight painting or at the very least, better bone placement.

[zzyyxx]

On 9/4/2019 at 9:40 PM, darklink_omar said:

Hi guys im using GR`ReTouchedBD SE v2(anus+vag+3boobsbones+fullphysics) and it works great but i got the breast fall to the ground issue only with clothes on checking the XML file and i didnt find the Prebreast thing and i dont understand this new syntax any help will be nice

 

sorry for my english

 

 [removed ss]

 

Is that vanilla clothing, or a replacer?  it's possible it's using weird bones.  You would need to look in your defaultBBPs file (SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\defaultBBPs.xml) and figure out what mesh is referring to what bodyslide file.    Unless you are using the TBD outfit replacer, it's very unlikely that that clothing is going to have a shape that conforms to the bones defined in the TBD xml file.

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18 hours ago, cminnow said:

UUNP is clearly superior to CBBE as far as boob motion (at least the standard UUNP vs CBBE). I had some comparisons videos but lost my account. RIP. Think of CBBE motion as two moving saucer plates. There's something very wrong with the outer edge motion in CBBE because there's a very rigid transition between moving and non-moving parts. Whereas UUNP has a more distributed pull/stretch that results in more undulating motion and doesn't look as odd at extreme angles and behaves more realistically to sudden changes. The difference is quite stark and the reason I immediately switched to UUNP after observing it in nerdofprey's Misty Adventure mod which happens to use UUNP bodies.

 

Anyway, since apparently the observable difference between CBBE and UUNP has nothing to do with the number of bones, I assume the only real difference must be that UUNP simply has much better body weight painting or at the very least, better bone placement.

For me, the appearance of the body itself plays a lot more, it looks much more natural to me. like in real life I can't stand silicone breasts, the plastic look of a doll. That’s why I’m always for unp regardless of physics. but the fact is that there are many more cbbc users than unp. Taste for nicely formed through the porn industry and Hollywood.

[Vyxenne]

1 hour ago, Kokan said:

in real life I can't stand silicone breasts, the plastic look of a doll.

OMG thank you! What I don't understand is how so many girls get fake boobs and then flaunt them as though they don't understand how repulsive they are... don't they have a mirror? Also, they feel completely different, not erotic at all, and many girls lose the feeling in their nipples when they get fake boobs.  I just can't imagine doing that.

 

Even my "adult-version" loading screen art depicts several girls with big, fake breasts so there must be people who actually prefer the "fake, plastic, lumpy blob" look...

 

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but I had thought that I was the only one who detests fake boobs until I saw your post.

[axz2]

50 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

OMG thank you! What I don't understand is how so many girls get fake boobs and then flaunt them as though they don't understand how repulsive they are... don't they have a mirror? Also, they feel completely different, not erotic at all, and many girls lose the feeling in their nipples when they get fake boobs.  I just can't imagine doing that.

 

Even my "adult-version" loading screen art depicts several girls with big, fake breasts so there must be people who actually prefer the "fake, plastic, lumpy blob" look...

 

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but I had thought that I was the only one who detests fake boobs until I saw your post.

I don't detest them myself (at least not any but the most extreme ones, and even for them its not something I think about much, just more "not my thing" than actively hating them), but I don't like the really large ones, both because I don't like humongous breast in the first place (sort of small is nice, average is nice, large is nice, lot of different sizes are ok, but not humongous, not for me at least), and because if you get a big bump up in size its more noticeably fake.

[darklink_omar]

3 hours ago, zzyyxx said:

 

Is that vanilla clothing, or a replacer?  it's possible it's using weird bones.  You would need to look in your defaultBBPs file (SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\defaultBBPs.xml) and figure out what mesh is referring to what bodyslide file.    Unless you are using the TBD outfit replacer, it's very unlikely that that clothing is going to have a shape that conforms to the bones defined in the TBD xml file.

Thanks for the reply im using the TBD vanilla replacer but it happends with any TBD custom outfit  and yes the 3 bone breast XML Breast00,Breast01 and Breast02 syntax its very confuse to me all the replacer and custom outfits out there have prebreast, breast and/or breast01(the xml i mean not the actual 2 bones) the naked bodies works like a charm and thanks to Gromilla(and of course all the modding community) im finally able to use CBBE,UUNP, COSIO and TBD SMP bodies collision at the same time(you know many followers and stuff..) my only issue is with TBD outfits the question is how to handle this 3 bones in bodyslide outfits? ?

 

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[Shoneleven]

17 minutes ago, prZ said:

IT FINISHED......WHERE IS RELEASE

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4 minutes ago, Shoneleven said:

IT FINISHED......WHERE IS RELEASE

still some esp stuff to do. expect it on sunday

[rb888]

Good news finally got mods to work. Now have to add CPB and HDT mods and then the races mods I'm good to go again. Like I said just Destiny 2 been holding me back pass summer lol

[rb888]

Still no fiber yet. Still being connected in the area lol Still on Unlimtedville T-mobile lol

I'm praying I hope get fiber installed in the home soon before end month. Because it's huge download for shadowkeep in Destiny 2 like 60 gigs lol

[rb888]

My updated list so far. Going back it up this working copy! lol

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59 minutes ago, rb888 said:

 CPB and HDT mods

why

[gurugeorge]

15 hours ago, axz2 said:

I don't detest them myself (at least not any but the most extreme ones, and even for them its not something I think about much, just more "not my thing" than actively hating them), but I don't like the really large ones, both because I don't like humongous breast in the first place (sort of small is nice, average is nice, large is nice, lot of different sizes are ok, but not humongous, not for me at least), and because if you get a big bump up in size its more noticeably fake.

I like 'em all too, but I have a moderate preference for large naturals with a bit of gravity to them.  The gravity slider in Bodyslide is a godsend for people like me.  Unfortunately it makes clothing and armor look awful if one overdoes that aspect while focused on the naked form, so for armor and clothing, the silicon types of setting tend to look better for large breasted clothing and armor (effectively you're containing all that yumminess, so it's not as subject to gravity).

 

Just as an aside, one thing I've always wanted to see more of is where you have, say, a "sexy" armor breastplate (that shows some cleavage behind it) being solid, but with whatever flesh is showing being bouncy.  I remember there was one, just one set of armor in Oldrim that really got that right, back in the days when HDT was just coming in and people were getting the hang of it, and it looked amazing, but I've long forgotten what it was, or how it could be done.  (Note: it might have been based on TBBP or something and not HDT, can't remember, but it was roundabout that time.)

 

If anybody who sees this post has any idea as to how that sort of thing can be done, I'd appreciate some pointers!

[cminnow]

2 hours ago, gurugeorge said:

If anybody who sees this post has any idea as to how that sort of thing can be done, I'd appreciate some pointers!

Another connoisseur of the fine works of true couturier. Unfortunately, I don't know many SMP enabled armor makers that go beyond simply ignoring the body or, worse, making jiggly armor plates (shudder).

 

Misty's UUNP clothes include one of the only instances I've ever seen of armor "constraining" the SMP body. The fixed leather bodice that takes advantage of SMP cleavage sort of like you're talking about. Here it is in action though I haven't quite fixed it to fit my XMLs perfectly yet.

 

 

 

[axz2]

20 minutes ago, cminnow said:

Misty's UUNP clothes include one of the only instances I've ever seen of armor "constraining" the SMP body. The fixed leather bodice that takes advantage of SMP cleavage sort of like you're talking about. Here it is in action though I haven't quite fixed it to fit my XMLs perfectly yet.

Available for SE?  Do you have a link to the mod?

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28 minutes ago, cminnow said:

Another connoisseur of the fine works of true couturier. Unfortunately, I don't know many SMP enabled armor makers that go beyond simply ignoring the body or, worse, making jiggly armor plates (shudder).

 

Misty's UUNP clothes include one of the only instances I've ever seen of armor "constraining" the SMP body. The fixed leather bodice that takes advantage of SMP cleavage sort of like you're talking about. Here it is in action though I haven't quite fixed it to fit my XMLs perfectly yet.

 

 

 

many armors have that, that has nothing to do with smp its more a weightpaint thing. its like >5 minutes of work to archive that on any mesh you wish.

[cminnow]

 

47 minutes ago, axz2 said:

Available for SE?  Do you have a link to the mod?

Dunno where he got the clothes but I assume a fair amount are custom. You can just pull the clothes out of the mod with additem explorer. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/16374

 

40 minutes ago, prZ said:

many armors have that, that has nothing to do with smp its more a weightpaint thing. its like >5 minutes of work to archive that on any mesh you wish.

That's just the only example I know of. Do you have any links to any other armors that aren't simply two weight circles pasted on the body?

[zzyyxx]

17 hours ago, darklink_omar said:

Thanks for the reply im using the TBD vanilla replacer but it happends with any TBD custom outfit  and yes the 3 bone breast XML Breast00,Breast01 and Breast02 syntax its very confuse to me all the replacer and custom outfits out there have prebreast, breast and/or breast01(the xml i mean not the actual 2 bones) the naked bodies works like a charm and thanks to Gromilla(and of course all the modding community) im finally able to use CBBE,UUNP, COSIO and TBD SMP bodies collision at the same time(you know many followers and stuff..) my only issue is with TBD outfits the question is how to handle this 3 bones in bodyslide outfits? ?

 

I would use different XML files for the outfits with different bones.  The easiest way to do that, would just be to rename the shape of the naked body to something like TBD3BoneBody, and point your defaultBBPs to use the TBD XML with that shape, then leave the TBDBody shape from the outfit replacer to use an XML file that doesn't include the 3 bone boobs, and vagina/anus collision.

 

like:

 

<map shape="TBDBody" file="SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\TBDNonNude.xml"/>

<map shape="TBD3BoneBody" file="SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\TBD.xml"/>

 

Then make the edits in Outfit Studio to have your nude body shape be renamed as TBD3BoneBody

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1 hour ago, cminnow said:

 

Dunno where he got the clothes but I assume a fair amount are custom. You can just pull the clothes out of the mod with additem explorer. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/16374

 

That's just the only example I know of. Do you have any links to any other armors that aren't simply two weight circles pasted on the body?

check the sovngarde steel armor on nexus

[rb888]

11 hours ago, prZ said:

why

Just because how else would those mods work right way?

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, rb888 said:

Just because how else would those mods work right way?

i mean why smp+cbp

[gurugeorge]

4 hours ago, cminnow said:

Another connoisseur of the fine works of true couturier. Unfortunately, I don't know many SMP enabled armor makers that go beyond simply ignoring the body or, worse, making jiggly armor plates (shudder).

 

Misty's UUNP clothes include one of the only instances I've ever seen of armor "constraining" the SMP body. The fixed leather bodice that takes advantage of SMP cleavage sort of like you're talking about. Here it is in action though I haven't quite fixed it to fit my XMLs perfectly yet.

 

Yes, that's just the sort of thing!  You know the score lol.

 

And now that prZ's mentioned it, I think it was a "sexy" version of the Sovngarde armor I'm thinking of, that had the same effect in Oldrim.  I think this is the original version, but apparently it doesn't have the effect because in the posts there, a few posts down a certain camoway laments that the version with the effect, which was around in 2012, can't be found any more, and a response commiserates with him, saying, "Ah, yes. I remember that one. Sadly, it would easily clip unless a very specific body shape and weight was used."  And it's coming back to me now, because I remember I had that problem, and had to use the proper body.  But set up properly, it was an amazing effect.  

 

(I absolutely hate, hate, hate jiggly steel armors, with the heat of a thousand suns, even bendy armors.  Even on male armors it can sometimes be extremely immersion breaking when a body bends and the armor bends.  I suppose there's just little ROI for developers to get it right.  But it should be possible to do - after all, real plate armor is flexible in the larger sense, even though the parts are rigid, so it should be possible to duplicate.  But I'm going off topic  )

 

Musing: is it possible to have CBPC/HDT SMP breasts actually colliding with and being flattened by the inside of the mesh of a rigid leather or steel armor?