CBBE / BodySlide and Outfit Studio

[anjenthedog]

On 1/16/2021 at 3:06 PM, Anunya said:

I have the noobiest of nooby questions*:

 

So... in game, in racemenu I move a bunch of sliders around to get a body I'm happy with. Looks great!

 

Then, to avoid clipping, I go into bodyslide and...

 

... input each of those values manually to match the settings for the character in the game? And then batch build morphs. Is that right?

 

And just to be safe, because I don't know how the weight function works, I duplicate the values into both the low weight and the high weight.

 

Is that right, is that how it works? And if that's how it works, is there a way to get the values from racemenu in-game to bodyslide that's more convenient than writing them down on a piece of paper or whatever?

 

Thanks!

 

 

*because so far I've just sort of muddled through and gotten to "good enough I guess", but I figure it'd be good to know what's actually going on.

I don't know if you got this issue sorted out, but you're doing things wrong. 

 

Bodyslide sliders are not racemenu sliders. For all intents and purposes, it's best (IMO) to view things like this

 

skeleton wrapped by bodyslide mesh. Mesh is effectively duplicated in racemenu, (presuming the build morphs checkbox was checked when building the body in bodyslide), where its *unique racemenu slider set, not to be confused with the bodyslide slider set, adjusts the racemenu mesh duplicated from bodyslide.

 

The point being. Build your bodyslide model first. fit all armors and clothing to that bodyslide model (or if you desire, to a slightly tweaked preset version with adjusted boobs to simulate the compression, pushup, spread, or push together, etc that some clothing produces) then and only then refine it using racemenu. Make sure that Build Morphs is always checked in bodyslide to ensure you can use racemenu.

 

And of course, be consistent in which presets and armor/clothing you choose, since they need to conform to the body model you've chosen to use for you body (ie CBBE body/outfit >> CBBE presets, CBBE-3BBB body/outfit >> CBBE-3BBB presets, BHUNP body/outfits > BHUNP presets, etc) 

[wizzleteats]

If this is the wrong place to ask this, I apologize. 
 

is there any AIO solution for CBBE with Physics? Or do I have to download each individual piece?

 

is there any way to randomize what an NPC looks like as far as sliders and such?

 

With clothing, what/how do I need to change things between CBBE and 3BBB?

[Whacked]

I have a quick question about something that has bothered my since oldrim. Is it the cbbe body that causes the heels to hover about 1-2 inches off the ground, and sometimes the toes sink into carpets, etc., maybe an idle or??? It has always been present afaik, probably something to do with trying to make heels work before there was hdt high heels or racemenuhh. If I could get rid of it I'd love to, flat shoes and boots seem ok, but any custom footwear (not heels) and naked body all seem to have this issue for me.

Thanks if anyone knows anything about this.

[Guest brandon122]

can we get some sliders for the area of the armpit/boob? more specifically being able to move that area inward so the chest above the breasts isn't so wide. it gives the look of weight for the breasts as they pull down

[jwolf9]

so i dont know if its allowed to do this here but i need help with CBBE,Calintines body enhancer and all. but does someone want to explain how in hte ever loving hell i did this with just choseing the settings for it through my vortex mod manger. i literally had everything working fine could play the game and then this. i knew something was wrong. now trying to fix it i broke the game or at least mod manger to run the game with mods forcing me to start over again with doing my mods. this would be attempt number 6 trying to get it right.

 

so some help to to have female nude bodies not break this bad would be great.

[RedMonika]

1 hour ago, jwolf9 said:

so i dont know if its allowed to do this here but i need help with CBBE,Calintines body enhancer and all. but does someone want to explain how in hte ever loving hell i did this with just choseing the settings for it through my vortex mod manger. i literally had everything working fine could play the game and then this. i knew something was wrong. now trying to fix it i broke the game or at least mod manger to run the game with mods forcing me to start over again with doing my mods. this would be attempt number 6 trying to get it right.

 

so some help to to have female nude bodies not break this bad would be great.

 

 

I have no idea how that would happen but I would suspect it's with your HDT. You should post this in the tech issue thread along with your load order.

[jwolf9]

1 hour ago, RedMonika said:

 

I have no idea how that would happen but I would suspect it's with your HDT. You should post this in the tech issue thread along with your load order.

right now i dont have a load order cause im starting over again. but i do try to make sure game,body,cheats,or mechanics towards the top of the load order and everything else towards the bottom.

 

i know my game crashes and breaks if i mess that up by trying to fix it,

[RedMonika]

3 hours ago, jwolf9 said:

right now i dont have a load order cause im starting over again. but i do try to make sure game,body,cheats,or mechanics towards the top of the load order and everything else towards the bottom.

 

i know my game crashes and breaks if i mess that up by trying to fix it,

 

That's not really how it works. Do you use LOOT? ESPs can conflict and write over each other. The order is specific depending on what the esp is and how it interacts with others. I don't know how Vortex works as I use MO but mods need to be placed properly to not rewrite each other.

[judge007]

Ousnius:

 

Is there going to be a release for EnderalSE?

 

I ask because I managed to get it working, but it's not something for the average user to do.

See the link in my signature for how.

 

Thanks

[Angahran]

Maybe a dumb question but if you don't ask you'll never know, right ?

 

I have a bunch of different clothing and armor mods.

Some say 'SMP', some say 'Physics', some say '3BBB', some say '3BA', some say 'HDT-SMP'.... you get the idea.

 

Afaik these are all 'physics', so my question is, is there any way to tell exactly which flavor of physics a mod is using without digging deep into it's guts ?

[anjenthedog]

Afaik, 3BBB and 3BA mean the same thing. HDT SMP is the physics engine used to drive SMP response (body) (and of course HDT response for clothing). Further, "Physics" is usually accompanied by "CBBE", which means a stock CBBE response butts and boobs and nothing else (yes, you can use CBBE special body but it's ...incomplete)

 

IMO the best way to pick bodyslides and armor/clothing for a chosen body physics model is by choosing only entries that directly correspond to your chosen body type.

 

Ie, you use CBBE-3BBB? Only use CBBE-3BBB clothing/armor. If you use UUNP, only use UUNP, if BHUNP, only BHUNP, etc.

Edited June 4, 2021 by anjenthedog

[Guest]

A useful feature for OS would be to allow us to invert the mirror so that when we use the transform tool the mirrored side doesn't move vertices on the x,y or z axis in the same direction, but rather the opposite.

Edited June 9, 2021 by Guest

[ousnius]

On 6/9/2021 at 4:22 PM, endgame † addiction said:

A useful feature for OS would be to allow us to invert the mirror so that when we use the transform tool the mirrored side doesn't move vertices on the x,y or z axis in the same direction, but rather the opposite.

 

This was already added for the next version.

[Guest]

On 6/11/2021 at 2:28 PM, ousnius said:

 

This was already added for the next version.

 

Good to know. I'll keep an eye out for the next version.

[PerFylk]

On 4/13/2021 at 11:27 PM, jwolf9 said:

so i dont know if its allowed to do this here but i need help with CBBE,Calintines body enhancer and all. but does someone want to explain how in hte ever loving hell i did this with just choseing the settings for it through my vortex mod manger. i literally had everything working fine could play the game and then this. i knew something was wrong. now trying to fix it i broke the game or at least mod manger to run the game with mods forcing me to start over again with doing my mods. this would be attempt number 6 trying to get it right.

 

so some help to to have female nude bodies not break this bad would be great.

This i seen before.  Use the ZAP 7/8 for your bodytype. Problem should be fixed then

 

[BillyG]

On 6/4/2021 at 11:41 AM, anjenthedog said:

Ie, you use CBBE-3BBB? Only use CBBE-3BBB clothing/armor. If you use UUNP, only use UUNP, if BHUNP, only BHUNP, etc.

I never got around trying that - can you say if CBBE-3BBE clothing/armor doesn't work with generic CBBE at all, or what the problems are? They seem to be somewhat similar-ish, not like FO3 with about 10 incompatible body types, each with incompatible clothing/armor mods...

 

Some mods seem to provide generic CBBE and CBBE-3BBA bodyslides at the same time - or at least I'm ending up with CBBE-3BBA options in Bodyslide, even though I tried to stick to generic CBBE for the time being. If my body is CBBE generic, I can simply completely ignore these slider groups, correct?

 

[anjenthedog]

some work better than others, Many leave ugly artifacts of one sort or another. In general, I'd recommend that you stick to armors made for your chosen body model for best results, Not that you can't use others but to avoid problems that leave you debugging instead of playing.  And I'm not saying that other body model armors won't looks good. Sometimes you can't even tell. IME, it's less often than when they don't

 

PS> Many mods come with multi-body-model fomods that allow you to choose the body type you're installing it for. Still if you use the <some body type you like and use> body type, select the <some body type you like and use> body type if it offers it for installation. And if it doesn't, and if it's still so special you just gotta have it, at least choose one in the same body-model family (ie, UNP-family or CBBE-family or whatever) that you've chosen for your player body.

Edited August 4, 2021 by anjenthedog

[BillyG]

On 10/28/2016 at 2:38 PM, ousnius said:

Check out the wiki with documentation and guides for BodySlide and Outfit Studio!

I've tried to check out the out the wiki like github.com/ousnius/BodySlide-and-Outfit-Studio/wiki/Packing-projects-for-sharing - and there are such a lot - of course very helpful and excellent! - tutorials and gudes around the web - Thanks!

 

However, there is still some things I don't understand (sorry!!!!). It's about batch building with grousps and presets... I'm a simple user mind you, not trying to learn Outfit Studio. I'm looking at some CBBE Presets and want to batch build the meshes for all mods I've included.

 

1. Some groups include the CBBE tag, some include neither, and there's even an "Uncategorized" group with some items (screenshot: my groups). Groups like 3BA, 3BBBB don't apply to me if I want to batch build with CBBE Something - because they're another body type and the game will never use them if I don't use this body type?

=> Question: Or do I need to build all of them too in a "better safe than sorry" way, because even if some clothes-armor were built for 3BA running them through BS with CBBE Someting improves the look?

 

Spoiler

 

2. Most groups include the Presets I want to try (like CBBE Something, or Greek Goddess, or CT177).  But some don't include CBBE Something - for example the DD group (see screenshot). 

 => Question: Do I need to bath build the DD group, too, even if it doesn't include CBBE Something?

 

Spoiler

3. Some body types include multipe variants, like 2x (naked or not), or even 3x clothed, armor and naked. => Question: How do you figure out what to apply to what during a batch build without manually going through thousands of items? Does very skimpy or DD not-really-clothing (like rope harness) require "naked"?

 

Thanks for any kind help with this!

 

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by BillyG

[Sera67]

Are there any 2021 Guides for Bodyslide/Outfit Studio that aren't from 2018, or walls of text?

 

Wiki has some useful info, But its all over place... (not in bad way)   Wiki is clearly written in manner.. (to me) its for people who understand most of terms and naming used. 

To me.. its wall of text that doesn't get to point or answer my questions. =(

 

I'm at a point were I've google and bing'd hell out of this, and for life of me... can not find a decent step by step guide, that doesn't have some outdated steps, or step 4 or 5, Isn't explained very well, And I end up Lost.

Youtube hasn't been very helpful...

 

I found a handful of forums posts that were Do this>Do this>click this>start on fire>click there>Click-click>Batch>done! 

 

And I have ported several outfits to my body/and in-game.  And Very Happy!

 

But several of them... I can not find clear answer, how fix the mega-boobs, or bizarre oddites that happen when ported.

Example like Fortune (DOA bikini)  I figured out its still flagged as 43, and not 44. Easy fix.   I Figure out how remove base mesh causing ultra boobs. 

But brushes and tolls wont move the bikini down in any form.

And it wont conform down at all. (In-game it just floats in air like I have mega boobs)

 

I don't know the terminology.. so its near impossible to google it. Most of my search results often lead to unaswered posts, or 2018-9 fixes that no longer work.

 

I finally found more of DOA outfits,  there all for UNP, or TBD... I can not get them to Port over.  =(

[VOYAG]

anyone here know how to combine modular armor pieces into one single armor in outfit studio?

I tried add project but it will break the smp object like cloak

[RedMonika]

11 hours ago, VOYAG said:

anyone here know how to combine modular armor pieces into one single armor in outfit studio?

I tried add project but it will break the smp object like cloak

 

I've never messed with SMP but I do have a tutorial on how to make a mashup. It might help. It's in my sig.

[Koji222]

hello everyone, simple question, how do i change the breast and ass size for all npcs?

[RedMonika]

18 hours ago, Koji222 said:

hello everyone, simple question, how do i change the breast and ass size for all npcs?

 

You would use bodyslide for that. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49015

 

Mess around with to make a preset you like and build. this will change the body shape of all female npcs

Edited September 20, 2021 by RedMonika

[Koji222]

On 9/20/2021 at 5:12 PM, RedMonika said:

 

You would use bodyslide for that. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49015

 

Mess around with to make a preset you like and build. this will change the body shape of all female npcs

i guess i'm missing something, i did what you said but the npc still have the normal body.

[Crazymaxsims]

good?