ShadowKitty42 Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, aera said: Register custom animation events isnt ported to SE either, let alone VR. The source is available, but it requires on something called "libSKSE" which is a 3rd party API extension that also hasn't been updated to SE (or VR). And on top of that RCAE hooks a few functions its self, so those offsets would need to be updated. I looked through the YA script sources and it seems RCAE is mainly used for SOS animations, but also a few idle animation fixes. I've removed all RACE references and recompiled the scripts which should work, but will probably cause major problems with SOS/sexlab I forgot that RCAE was a compatibility problem. I simply removed it and haven't seen any adverse affects. I've even used it with the sexlab debug spells (that just immediately starts a sex scene) and it all worked. The schlong just goes fully erect right away.
aera Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, ShadowKitty42 said: I forgot that RCAE was a compatibility problem. I simply removed it and haven't seen any adverse affects. I've even used it with the sexlab debug spells (that just immediately starts a sex scene) and it all worked. The schlong just goes fully erect right away. Good to know, probably the same thing with PapyrusUtil, I have a feeling my crash is related to bad mesh data, if it was script related it would likely put something in the log. It seems like this is so close to working though, if you were able to get it semi-working in SE, even without the script mod requirements it should be able to get into qasmoke in VR. I've tested it with all YA scripts removed too and it crashes in the same way. Wish it was easier to debug a CTD. I did try attaching x64dbg, and it seems to crash due to an access violation, dealing with data related to HeadNord. But that could be leading me in the wrong direction, x64dbg isnt exactly a standard way to debug skyrim mods
ShadowKitty42 Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, aera said: Good to know, probably the same thing with PapyrusUtil, I have a feeling my crash is related to bad mesh data, if it was script related it would likely put something in the log. It seems like this is so close to working though, if you were able to get it semi-working in SE, even without the script mod requirements it should be able to get into qasmoke in VR. I've tested it with all YA scripts removed too and it crashes in the same way. Wish it was easier to debug a CTD. I did try attaching x64dbg, and it seems to crash due to an access violation, dealing with data related to HeadNord. But that could be leading me in the wrong direction, x64dbg isnt exactly a standard way to debug skyrim mods When you used NIF Optimizer to convert the meshes, did you separate out the head parts and use the "head parts only" option on them?
Blaze69 Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 @Anybody working on SE and VR ports: Seeing how YA 5.0 is relatively close by now (pretty sure Bad Dog said he still aimed for a release before the end of the year) and I think BD also said he would look into a SSE port not long after the update drops, wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the update to drop before doing any more work on a SSE (and VR) port? If the issue is caused by some rogue mesh, it may be fixed in 5.0, and even if that's not the case, all of the work would have to be done again on the 5.0 files. Even if you don't want to wait for Bad Dog to port the mod to SE himself (or would rather start working on the port right away so you can give him all the info to speed things up), I'd say you should at least wait for YA 5.0 to drop before going any further. Just my two cents, though.
mxwqtkl Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, aera said: I've been compressing all the textures using DXT1, which seems to make Nif Optimizer happy at least. Does DXT1 cut it or is BCn compression required? BC1, 2 and 3 are equivalent to the old DXT formats, but if you've been compressing everything with DXT1/BC1 you've been crushing the alpha channel of your normal maps down to 1 bit maps. It works for RGB, though at a much greater filesize and without the supposed performance benefit you would get with the newer BC7 format SE supports. Use BC3/DXT3 for maps with alpha to get a full 8 bit alpha if you can't use BC7.
aera Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, mxwqtkl said: BC1, 2 and 3 are equivalent to the old DXT formats, but if you've been compressing everything with DXT1/BC1 you've been crushing the alpha channel of your normal maps down to 1 bit maps. It works for RGB, though at a much greater filesize and without the supposed performance benefit you would get with the newer BC7 format SE supports. Use BC3/DXT3 for maps with alpha to get a full 8 bit alpha if you can't use BC7. Good to know, nvidia texture tools isn't an option then because from what I can tell it only supports DXT1. So far only 1 of the textures I converted had an alpha channel though (And from what I saw of the actual texture, I think it wasn't supposed to have an alpha channel) 1 hour ago, ShadowKitty42 said: When you used NIF Optimizer to convert the meshes, did you separate out the head parts and use the "head parts only" option on them? No, I just batch converted them all but I'm going to try a few things 1 hour ago, Blaze69 said: @Anybody working on SE and VR ports: Seeing how YA 5.0 is relatively close by now (pretty sure Bad Dog said he still aimed for a release before the end of the year) and I think BD also said he would look into a SSE port not long after the update drops, wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the update to drop before doing any more work on a SSE (and VR) port? If the issue is caused by some rogue mesh, it may be fixed in 5.0, and even if that's not the case, all of the work would have to be done again on the 5.0 files. Even if you don't want to wait for Bad Dog to port the mod to SE himself (or would rather start working on the port right away so you can give him all the info to speed things up), I'd say you should at least wait for YA 5.0 to drop before going any further. Just my two cents, though. You're probably right, and I really apprecate all the work BD is doing, cant wait for 5.0 The problem is I'm super impatient and I've got a lot of free time this week. It's probably a waste of time trying to get 4.2 working in VR but I'm happy to try as long as BD doesn't have a problem with it. And who knows, maybe something we find might end up making things easier for the official SE port
ModernSilver Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Blaze69 said: @Anybody working on SE and VR ports: Seeing how YA 5.0 is relatively close by now (pretty sure Bad Dog said he still aimed for a release before the end of the year) and I think BD also said he would look into a SSE port not long after the update drops, wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the update to drop before doing any more work on a SSE (and VR) port? If the issue is caused by some rogue mesh, it may be fixed in 5.0, and even if that's not the case, all of the work would have to be done again on the 5.0 files. Even if you don't want to wait for Bad Dog to port the mod to SE himself (or would rather start working on the port right away so you can give him all the info to speed things up), I'd say you should at least wait for YA 5.0 to drop before going any further. Just my two cents, though. Yeah, I agree, ya'll will just have to do this whole process again when v5.0 drops. Just wait for v5.0 to drop before going any further, it'd be easier that way. Afterwards, you should lend Bad Dog a hand with his own port instead of making three or four self-made ports. Quote VR ports You know, I actually forgot that useless port of SE actually exists. XD A SE port should work on both though, although I'm not 100% sure.
Vaelophis Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Though I'm still trying to diagnose seemingly random CTDs, I do have a mildly irritating YAOS bug, involving invisible ankles on lots of NPCs and wrist seams on ALL models for everyone. I can post a load order and modlist if desired, but if it's an easy fix I'd rather not burden folks. (Though, help with the CTDs would be great; I feel a separate topic would probably be better?) EDIT: Other issues I have: random frame-freezes where input is still accepted and sound still works, as does gameplay...but the game's frame freezes where it is permanently. (Alt tabbing crashes it) ^ same but on a load screen Infinite load screen bugs sometimes too None of my major game breaking errors, are consistent either. Load order Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm CreatureFramework.esm BadDogSchlongCore.esm RaceCompatibility.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp FNIS.esp SkyUI.esp FISS.esp SkyTweak.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp NPCsUseAmmoAllBows.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp ORM-Arvak.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp Elemental Staves.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp Point The Way.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp BeastDragonPriestMasks.esp fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp DaedricPunishmentForSweetrolls.esp DragonPunishmentForCloudDistrict.esp Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Dead Body Collision.esp Realistic AI Detection 2 - High Interior, High Exterior.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp sandboxcylinderheight.esp immersive roads.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX - Hardcore.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp ETaC - Complete.esp ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp DragonPriestMaskJournal.esp Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp SLAnimLoader.esp XPMSE.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Thalmor, only use elven weapons & armor IW..esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp EnchantedArsenal.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp disenchantment_font.esp Elemental Destruction.esp chfshImbuedSword.esp crimsonquestmarkers.esp SimplyKnock.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Footprints.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp SoS_ELFX+Hardcore+Weathers_Patch.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp HentaiCreatures.esp HornyCreatures.esp YiffyAgeConsolidated.esp YiffyAgeUSLEEPPatch.esp YiffyAgeSchlongs.esp YiffyAgeCuttingRoomFloor.esp YiffyAgeDiverseSkyrim.esp YiffyAgePopulatedLegendPatch.esp Cloaks.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp SOS - Revealing Armors.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp BDSkimpyClothes.esp Commoner Belts.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp Random Alternate Start.esp RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp UIExtensions.esp SexLabTools.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp SKSE.ini: Spoiler [General] EnableDiagnostics=1 ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 [Display] iTintTextureResolution=2048 [Memory] defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024 scrapHeapSizeMB=256 [Debug] WriteMiniDumps=1 Skyrim.ini Spoiler [General] sLanguage=ENGLISH uExterior Cell Buffer=36 sIntroSequence= iLargeIntRefCount=999999 [Display] fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0 fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0 fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=1024 bAllowScreenshot=1 iTexMipMapSkip=0 fSunUpdateThreshold=0.0500 fSunShadowUpdateTime=0.0000 fShadowDistance=1000.0000 fShadowBiasScale=0.6000 iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=512 fInteriorShadowDistance=2000.0000 iShadowMapResolution=512 [Audio] fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0 fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0 fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0 fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass] bAllowCreateGrass=1 bAllowLoadGrass=1 iMinGrassSize=40 [GeneralWarnings] SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive] sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Combat] fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.2 f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.2 [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=2 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000.0 bEnableLogging=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation=1 iMaxMemoryPageSize=4096 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=256000000 [Water] bReflectLODObjects=1 bReflectLODLand=1 bReflectSky=1 bReflectLODTrees=1 iWaterReflectWidth=1024 iWaterReflectHeight=1024 [Actor] fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000 [Particles] iMaxDesired=750 I should note that none of the log files are particularly helpful for finding the cause for these freezes and crashes, as they seem to indicate the game is running as normal My system is also not being overtaxed...in fact it's hardly trying at all while running the game. Edit2: Well, I did find one consistent crash: any time I enable RAS - Riverwood CarGen.esp, the game -always- crashes loading character generation. In fact most of my crashes, seem to occur in more populated areas of the game, especially cities and towns (though I have already disabled ETAC)
J4ck4l13 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, Spunzafoon13 said: Heres my load order im not sure what i have that could be causing this ive already disabled anything i could think of Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLabAroused.esm CreatureFramework.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Night Eye Overhaul.esm HentaiPregnancy.esm Children+SoulGems.esm BadDogSchlongCore.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp SkyUI.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp XPMSE.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp YiffyAgeConsolidated.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp FNISSexyMove.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp UIExtensions.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp BAMM.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp SLAnimLoader.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp HarvestOverhaul.esp HDTTailsEquipable.esp Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp SED7-CBBE3-BM_ALLin1-EDITION.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp YiffyAgeUSLEEPPatch.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Artifact Disenchanting.esp imp_helm_legend.esp CWIELnFXPatch.esp Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp Northern Priestess - EX.esp hearthfireextended.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp Lost Magic.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp RiverwoodHome.esp SOS - Shop.esp FNISspells.esp HentaiCreatures.esp HDT Piercingsets.esp Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp MF_RadiantProstitution.esp DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp _tck_SpellCrafting.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp FNIS.esp LykaiosRace.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLALAnimObj.esp NEO Longer Lasting Potions.esp NEO Persistent Spell.esp NEO Tint 8.esp Night Eye Overhaul.esp PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp YiffyAgeImperious.esp YiffyAgeCollegeImmersivePatch.esp YiffyAgeSchlongs.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Kuroyami Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Spunzafoon13 said: Heres my load order im not sure what i have that could be causing this ive already disabled anything i could think of Realistic Ragdolls And Force - It is likely having all those active would cause problems, though I'm not sure of that. Also, RRaF is basically included with XPMSE at this point, so it may not exactly be needed. SOS Default Plugins(Muscular And Regular) - It is recommended to disable these with a Yiffy Age setup, since their textures won't match. Improved Closefaced Helmets - Yiffy Age includes something like what this mod does already, and using ICH alongside YA is likely causing some conflicts. KS Hairdos - HDT - These might work, but not really look very good with Yiffy Age's changes to the vanilla races.
J4ck4l13 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kuroyami said: Realistic Ragdolls And Force - It is likely having all those active would cause problems, though I'm not sure of that. Also, RRaF is basically included with XPMSE at this point, so it may not exactly be needed. SOS Default Plugins(Muscular And Regular) - It is recommended to disable these with a Yiffy Age setup, since their textures won't match. Improved Closefaced Helmets - Yiffy Age includes something like what this mod does already, and using ICH alongside YA is likely causing some conflicts. KS Hairdos - HDT - These might work, but not really look very good with Yiffy Age's changes to the vanilla races. thanks ill try those
Blaze69 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 47 minutes ago, Spunzafoon13 said: BadDogSchlongCore.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp SOS - Shop.esp FNISspells.esp DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp LykaiosRace.esp On top of what Kuroyami said, get rid of these plugins^. They are either useless/deprecated, redundant, or not compatible with YA. Also the HD Textures "DLC" is bullshit, there is no real improvement over vanilla textures, use a texture replacer mod instead if you want better textures in bulk. And last, but not least, move all of the YA plugins (including the main YiffyAgeConsolidated.esp) to the bottom of the load order so they load after Imperious, and also put the Alternate Start file above all the YA plugins. 1
Hakaru Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 I have a request. I’ve been playing Enderal and there is only 4 races in game based on existing Skyrim races, could someone make the Yiffy Age of Enderal? Enderal is a high quality game with over 100+ hours of content with a fantastic storyline sexlab is said to work in it according to people on this forum.
Bad Dog Posted November 26, 2018 Author Posted November 26, 2018 23 hours ago, PaulGreen said: The SSE game will not use some older DDS compression types, and CK complains about uncompressed textures, though they will still work in the game. Is this for real? What a pain. I use uncompressed 8.8.8 (not sure how that maps to BC3/5/6/7) for all the MSN files. Also, face tints require 8.8.8 with no mip maps. What does CK want for them? I have Photoshop so theoretically I shouldn't have a problem converting to BC7. 23 hours ago, PaulGreen said: If it is still failing, can send me output file and see if I can see problems. The problem turned out to be: It's fine to have a hair with a races tri file, but you must then also have a morphs tri file, even if it has no actual morphs in it. I'm going through the khajiit hair now, mostly jiggering the hair with earrings to work on all the different races. Except the one with three rings and a piercing in the same ear which just don't fit on the small-eared cats. I'm also bugged by the models where there's hair between the ears but it doesn't respond to the movement of the ears. I'm likely to spend some time fixing that. I was almost trapped into doing race morphs for a bunch of the khajiit hair because the forehead shape was off just enough to notice. Then I got smart and adjusted the foreheads. I'll also adapt at least some of the Lykaios hair to the other animals. Without a race morph, it often stands out from the face stupidly. The manes particularly don't look good. I'm also trying to adapt the goatee-type beard to foxes and lions, which I think need it. It's a simple mesh but it's taking stupidly long. Also a bunch of the orc hair can be used as is. Also I want to adapt some of the humanoid hair. The Ceasar-Augustus hair that General Tullius has, maybe some others. I'll check out the frizz that some of the elves have and see if it looks okay on beasts. And I might make some additional variants using different combinations of the earrings. That's easy once the morphs are loaded in one mesh in blender.
Hakaru Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bad Dog said: Is this for real? What a pain. I use uncompressed 8.8.8 (not sure how that maps to BC3/5/6/7) for all the MSN files. Also, face tints require 8.8.8 with no mip maps. What does CK want for them? I have Photoshop so theoretically I shouldn't have a problem converting to BC7. The problem turned out to be: It's fine to have a hair with a races tri file, but you must then also have a morphs tri file, even if it has no actual morphs in it. I'm going through the khajiit hair now, mostly jiggering the hair with earrings to work on all the different races. Except the one with three rings and a piercing in the same ear which just don't fit on the small-eared cats. I'm also bugged by the models where there's hair between the ears but it doesn't respond to the movement of the ears. I'm likely to spend some time fixing that. I was almost trapped into doing race morphs for a bunch of the khajiit hair because the forehead shape was off just enough to notice. Then I got smart and adjusted the foreheads. I'll also adapt at least some of the Lykaios hair to the other animals. Without a race morph, it often stands out from the face stupidly. The manes particularly don't look good. I'm also trying to adapt the goatee-type beard to foxes and lions, which I think need it. It's a simple mesh but it's taking stupidly long. Also a bunch of the orc hair can be used as is. Also I want to adapt some of the humanoid hair. The Ceasar-Augustus hair that General Tullius has, maybe some others. I'll check out the frizz that some of the elves have and see if it looks okay on beasts. And I might make some additional variants using different combinations of the earrings. That's easy once the morphs are loaded in one mesh in blender. Sorry. Is that a no for the Enderal then? I don’t know what work would have to be done if every face had to be done by hand. My problem is the dependancys when I run the Enderal Launcher with Yiffy Age of Skyrim it needs Dawnguard.esm Hearthfire.esm Dragonborn.esm. They are put in the Data folder and enabled with all necessary yiffy age files and prerequesites and I get a purple menu with no text when you click New, proceeded by a ctd on loading screen. Would you ever consider doing work on Skywind and Skyblivion when they are released? That would be a wild ride!
Silversammy Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 I'm just wondering out of pure curiosity are you planning on making this compatible with special edition any time soon as this looks like one of the most ambitious mods I've seen in a while and I really got excited when I saw it but the only problem is I have special edition, so the only thing I can do is what other people use it while I am left out of the bask of this amazing mod, so if possible can you give confirmation if this will be a reality or the dream of an SE player.
Shadowscale Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 48 minutes ago, Silversammy said: I'm just wondering out of pure curiosity are you planning on making this compatible with special edition any time soon as this looks like one of the most ambitious mods I've seen in a while and I really got excited when I saw it but the only problem is I have special edition, so the only thing I can do is what other people use it while I am left out of the bask of this amazing mod, so if possible can you give confirmation if this will be a reality or the dream of an SE player. They are going to wait for 5.0 version before porting.
Blaze69 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Bad Dog said: Is this for real? What a pain. I use uncompressed 8.8.8 (not sure how that maps to BC3/5/6/7) for all the MSN files. Don't worry about that. The only compression that is no longer supported by SSE is L8 Grayscale, which means you need to resave the YA speculars as DXT1 or uncompressed 8.8.8 (aka RGB8). But those are the only textures that need to be edited, everything else should work fine out of the box. The new thing about SE is that it also supports the newer BC7 DDS format, which includes compression but it's supposed to be so good that it barely has any quality loss when compared with uncompressed files. In theory you could save MSN files as BC7 instead of uncompressed without having compression artifacts screw up the quality or cause visual bugs. But the only benefit is smaller file size for MSNs, so if you don't want to dabble with the new BC7 format, you can simply skip it and keep them uncompressed. 1 hour ago, Hakaru said: Sorry. Is that a no for the Enderal then? I don’t know what work would have to be done if every face had to be done by hand. My problem is the dependancys when I run the Enderal Launcher with Yiffy Age of Skyrim it needs Dawnguard.esm Hearthfire.esm Dragonborn.esm. They are put in the Data folder and enabled with all necessary yiffy age files and prerequesites and I get a purple menu with no text when you click New, proceeded by a ctd on loading screen. As far as I know, Enderal uses a completely different master file from the vanilla one, it just happens to have the same name (Skyrim.esm). Maybe so tools like xEdit work with Enderal out of the box? Anyway, since YA works by editing all the vanilla records (races, NPCs, head parts, armors, etc.) chances are it won't work with Enderal even if you were to get rid of the DLC master dependency. Pretty sure YA would have to be recreated from scratch for Enderal, so I wouldn't keep my hopes up for now. 1 hour ago, Silversammy said: I'm just wondering out of pure curiosity are you planning on making this compatible with special edition any time soon as this looks like one of the most ambitious mods I've seen in a while and I really got excited when I saw it but the only problem is I have special edition, so the only thing I can do is what other people use it while I am left out of the bask of this amazing mod, so if possible can you give confirmation if this will be a reality or the dream of an SE player. If you had bothered to read the last few posts in the thread, you would have noticed that was one of the main points being discussed, and you would have found out the consensus is Bad Dog intends to look into a SE port not long after YA 5.0 is out (which in turn should happen before the end of the year as per his ETA). But I guess you didn't bother, did you?
Bad Dog Posted November 26, 2018 Author Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Hakaru said: Sorry. Is that a no for the Enderal then? ... Would you ever consider doing work on Skywind and Skyblivion when they are released? That would be a wild ride! Who knows. it would be a whole new project. Maybe after I finish V5 and update all my other mods I might be interested. Not before then.
PaulGreen Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Uncompressed textures still work, the SE construction kit will just throw a bunch of "textures should be converted outside the game" errors or some such every time a part is loaded with such a texture on it. Compression into BCx (DXTx) is supposed to have a performance benefit as well, not just from smaller file size, but from loading structure. The form of the data in memory apparently allows it to be processed quicker that an uncompressed texture. I've not looked into the claim at all, no idea the merit. It is not outright foolish claim, since a texture isn't just "processed" once when loading, it is technically "processed" in nearly every frame constructed for lighting and pixel shading and such. No, this is wrong. Apparently textures are converted and stored in memory in certain ways regardless of initial form. The point is that the DXT forms are already in that structure, so there is no processing required when loading the texture into memory, whereas something not in that form requires processing before being stored in memory for per-frame processing. In days where memory bus for GPU is so fast, there is so much memory on GPUs, maybe it doesn't really matter so much. Edit again: This is 'stream of consciousness' posting, heh.. I guess the above still depends on the engine. If Skyrim's engine is such that it will store the texture as provided and re-do the processing into data structures every time texture data is needed, many uncompressed textures may have an effect. That would seem to be really bad method, but who knows. I guess if one really wanted to test, you could back up texture folder, then run that tool above and convert all textures to uncompressed, load a game, and see if FPS is affected. Probably as the textures are loading, so for first10 seconds or so, might be slower, but if FPS still remains the same as when using compressed textures, then there is no problem once they are read and processed.
Bad Dog Posted November 27, 2018 Author Posted November 27, 2018 Not without more info. Lots of followers in Skyrim.
Bad Dog Posted November 27, 2018 Author Posted November 27, 2018 I've been bitching about getting a clean UV layout and I just found an answer and I'm in love. Problem is all the smoothing options in blender try to reduce edge angles and when you're working with triangles that's guaranteed to give you zigzag lines. (Because the mesh was made from quads so all the triangles are right triangles.) This has been a huge issue with the scars--it's really hard to get a good scar using the vanilla textures when the UV won't lay it on the mesh evenly. So I got brilliant and converted tris to quads and then smoothed. Presto, beautiful straight lines on both mesh and UV (within the constraints of the mesh ofc). And the tris-to-quads tool worked beautifully--the Citrus head looks fabulous when you can see its structure. Now I have to redo all the scars, but it's a quick process and totally worth it. On a mesh, the smoothing does tend to flatten out features, but I can fix that by doing a shrinkwrap of the smoothed mesh over the original. Now I just have to restrain myself from redoing the UVs and the textures on every damn race in Skyrim. Khajiit hair are done, except I have to add look left/look right morphs to a few of the earrings. I didn't realize the ears moved with those morphs but it's totally worth it--it means the NPC twitches their ears from time to time, which makes them look much more real. And the earrings have to move with even tho it's not much, or they look stupid. 5
Shadowscale Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 Got to love those "Eureka!" moments of clarity.
NightroModzz Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Bad Dog said: So I got brilliant and converted tris to quads and then smoothed. Presto, beautiful straight lines on both mesh and UV (within the constraints of the mesh ofc). And the tris-to-quads tool worked beautifully Are you using that same mesh you converted, or did you copy and paste the new UV after retriangulating it to the un-edited Citrus head? If not, try to. Vert order (not vert count) may be broken which will break morphs. The new UV may not transfer successfully if it doesn't triangulate the same.
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