sfeile Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 So far everything is working pretty smoothly. I did have to use the reset function twice, but there was another animation trying to play at the same time as one of yours and the game got confused. Here's a few more screens if you want to use any of them. There was something that I forgot. Even with the chance set at 35%, nocturnal showed up 3 out of 4 times when I was trying to do the greybeard thing. Made it a little tough to hit the targets......
stas2503 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 There was something that I forgot. Even with the chance set at 35%, nocturnal showed up 3 out of 4 times when I was trying to do the greybeard thing. Made it a little tough to hit the targets...... Try below the chance to detect the scream setting 3 other parameters to 0. Nocturnal then it will just come to the rescue in battle. I put it in my place, because I really interfered with my games during the quests where I had to apply TU'UM.
bicobus Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Hello friends, do you know if there is a way to disable tales&tallow once it started? Because that questline really bothers me, as it started nearly right away and I'm now experiencing nearly all aspect of SLaV. I have the virgin training on because I thought that I had to report to Nocturnal with another artifact, but I just needed to report back before the timer end, and I had some fun along the way. I have plenty of tales and tallow stuff equipped, which is annoying because I want that virgin training to be gone before I venture the T&T path. All in all, SLaV has been very chaotic to me. Everything tends to happens at the same time and I don't know what to prioritize. That and every time I use fast travel, some random group will show up to put stuff on me or dance or whatever. It is entertaining at first, but the repetition is slowing shipping away at my patience. Another thing that I found frustrating is the crawling collar idea. It is nice in theory, until you realize that the trigger for people to "punish" you to remove the crawl animation is entirely random, which lead me to wait quite a fair bit in a city with nothing happening when I wanted to actually go and do some questing. So I simply used the MCM option to make my character stand again. This was with the aim to put a stop to the T&T quest line by going to Movarth's Lair, I had wrongly assumed that it would end there. But in fact no, I have to go and do a whole set of statue loving to get those stupid item off my character. And now I have a T&T chastity belt because being a "virgin" help, yet my character isn't a virgin. So what do I have to do? Finish the virgin training, get the virgin DD off my character then follow the T&T questline? Also, how do you orgasm people to death with a chastity belt on? Edit: Regardless of the tone if this post, I do enjoy SLaV a great lot. It is very well made, minus the dumb RNG event. I intent to continue playing.
VirginMarie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Hello friends, do you know if there is a way to disable tales&tallow once it started? There is not. And for the first play though it's a good idea to do it as you get a device that you will need for other quests. Because that questline really bothers me, as it started nearly right away and I'm now experiencing nearly all aspect of SLaV. I have the virgin training on because I thought that I had to report to Nocturnal with another artifact, but I just needed to report back before the timer end, and I had some fun along the way. I have plenty of tales and tallow stuff equipped, which is annoying because I want that virgin training to be gone before I venture the T&T path. All in all, SLaV has been very chaotic to me. Everything tends to happens at the same time and I don't know what to prioritize. It's meant to give choice. You can do things in parallel. It's not sequential. Order does not matter. That and every time I use fast travel, some random group will show up to put stuff on me or dance or whatever. It is entertaining at first, but the repetition is slowing shipping away at my patience Use MCM settings to slow it down then. You have much choice. Another thing that I found frustrating is the crawling collar idea. It is nice in theory, until you realize that the trigger for people to "punish" you to remove the crawl animation is entirely random, which lead me to wait quite a fair bit in a city with nothing happening when I wanted to actually go and do some questing. Increase the chance to get punishment. At max there'd be very little waiting. Or go crawl through the questing. It does not slow you down as it's meant to be very practical to do anything while crawling. So I simply used the MCM option to make my character stand again. This was with the aim to put a stop to the T&T quest line by going to Movarth's Lair, I had wrongly assumed that it would end there. But in fact no, I have to go and do a whole set of statue loving to get those stupid item off my character. And now I have a T&T chastity belt because being a "virgin" help, yet my character isn't a virgin. So what do I have to do? Finish the virgin training, get the virgin DD off my character then follow the T&T questline? Does not matter. Which ever you like. Maybe Training first so you are a virgin and can take advantage of the Chastity Cage enchant? Until both done you are locked in some DD. Also, how do you orgasm people to death with a chastity belt on? You're the dragonborn. Your orgasm is just that powerful Edit: Regardless of the tone if this post, I do enjoy SLaV a great lot. It is very well made, minus the dumb RNG event. I intent to continue playing. Virgin Training is going to reoccur unless you stay a virgin forever and always report in on time. If you don't like being locked in DD at least some of the time, this mod is probably not for you.
bicobus Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Oh it's not being locked in DD that is confusing, just that everything happens at the same time. I had planned to do the nocturnal/dibella quests in sequential order, so to earn some type of punishment for each artifact. I guess that's not meant to be, as the T&T will prevent me from what I intended to do. I guess I'll just ignore dibella for the time being. Right now, I have so much to do that I just dismiss any of the event that can be avoided or dismissed because I just don't have time for it. BTW when nocturnal "brand" the player as a slave, I have errors from the branding device (0.50) mod listed in my log. There is also a notification that the device is busy after each branding, which I assume to be coming because SLaV is too quick to throw requests? Other virgin errors are in the log I attached, but I don't recall what was happening at that time. Check around line 1200, the branding errors are a bit lower. Papyrus.Branding.log On a side note, what is frustrating me in LL's mods isn't being restrained but the randomness of some event. For example, the gag talk is basically just that: you have to navigate a dialogue menu, which is a pain because skyrim, to get to a specific entry that will succeed or fail. If it fail, you exit the dialogue menu and you have to start all over again, if the selected actor do not dismiss you by telling you to remove that gag yourself. All of that mechanic revolve around "luck", and all you are doing is just left clicking and waiting and left clicking some more. So yeah, I get it, I have a gag in my mouth, why does the guy I try to talk to don't take it off instead of trying to guess what I'm saying? Or why do I have to "mmmh" 5 times, each time I initialize a dialogue, instead of directly trying to use body language? It's just a frustrating mechanic. And this apply to every random based mechanic in a game. If it's random and in your face, it'll frustrate the player. One way to alleviate the issue would be to give the player the ability to trigger each event without relying on the randomness. For instance, the player could bugger some NPC by following them around, or throwing too much "mmh" at them, that they'd get compelled to (literally) set the player straight. That can live alongside the random nature of the design without too much issue, or even no issues at all. And that'd replace the MCM option to bypass the crawling too! Two birds with one stone, heh?
VirginMarie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 BTW when nocturnal "brand" the player as a slave, I have errors from the branding device (0.50) mod listed in my log. There is also a notification that the device is busy after each branding, which I assume to be coming because SLaV is too quick to throw requests? Neither the log error, nor the notification is from this mod. Slav is not throwing requests too fast. Nothing I can do better. There's no impact, as nothing breaks. All is well. On a side note, what is frustrating me in LL's mods isn't being restrained but the randomness of some event. For example, the gag talk is basically just that: you have to navigate a dialogue menu, which is a pain because skyrim, to get to a specific entry that will succeed or fail. If it fail, you exit the dialogue menu and you have to start all over again, if the selected actor do not dismiss you by telling you to remove that gag yourself. All of that mechanic revolve around "luck", and all you are doing is just left clicking and waiting and left clicking some more. So yeah, I get it, I have a gag in my mouth, why does the guy I try to talk to don't take it off instead of trying to guess what I'm saying? Or why do I have to "mmmh" 5 times, each time I initialize a dialogue, instead of directly trying to use body language? It's just a frustrating mechanic. Gag talk has nothing to do with this mod. I don't like to use it for long either. You have the option to never use a gag by setting it to None in MCM.... so even when in training with no key, you can remove it.
bicobus Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Gag talk was an widely known example, I know it's not coming from SLaV. I used it to explain how randomness can rapidly deteriorate the quality of a feature. As for the log errors, the branding device is the one throwing those related to it. But the other are appearing during "VirginTrainingScene7", are they just zad complaining that an item isn't present and thus benign?
VirginMarie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Gag talk was an widely known example, I know it's not coming from SLaV. I used it to explain how randomness can rapidly deteriorate the quality of a feature. Randomness is a cornerstone of this mod. Very extensively used. I'd be writing a new mod from scratch if I were to use a different approach. I think it works well. Perhaps you see the punishing collar as an example... but that's because you choose to wait around and this is not the intent. Embrace your punishment... let it last. Pain is pleasure As for the log errors, the branding device is the one throwing those related to it. But the other are appearing during "VirginTrainingScene7", are they just zad complaining that an item isn't present and thus benign? Yes benign
bicobus Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Is it normal that when using the thum of love, it's nocturnal that is actually having sexual congress with our character then leave her exhausted on the ground while the rest of the enemies resume combat?
VirginMarie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Is it normal that when using the thum of love, it's nocturnal that is actually having sexual congress with our character then leave her exhausted on the ground while the rest of the enemies resume combat? It's one of the many possible outcomes.
Tezarius Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Hey. Can you make sure that virginity is not lost when using strapon? Thank) And another question. How to get rid of the terrible handcuffs and a ball, which is attached ghosts?
VirginMarie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Hey. Can you make sure that virginity is not lost when using strapon? Thank) You cannot lose vaginal virginity when wearing the Virgin Chastity Strapon. If you are saying this did not work, when exactly did this not work for you? And what are you seeing that suggests it was lost? And another question. How to get rid of the terrible handcuffs and a ball, which is attached ghosts? Complete Tales & Tallows quest to get the key. More detail in FAQs
Tezarius Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Hey. Can you make sure that virginity is not lost when using strapon? Thank) You cannot lose vaginal virginity when wearing the Virgin Chastity Strapon. If you are saying this did not work, when exactly did this not work for you? And what are you seeing that suggests it was lost? And another question. How to get rid of the terrible handcuffs and a ball, which is attached ghosts? Complete Tales & Tallows quest to get the key. More detail in FAQs When using a strapon (it does not matter who), after sex the message "you have lost vaginal virginity" pops out and the horns are equipped.
bicobus Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 The strapons are actual double dildoes. So if you don't wear a chastity device, you'll lose that virginity.
VirginMarie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 When using a strapon (it does not matter who), after sex the message "you have lost vaginal virginity" pops out and the horns are equipped. Are you talking about the Virgin Chastity Strapon? If yes this should not be possible and I need more detail... what sex scene? And have you seen this occur more than once (you can recreated it)? If no, and it's some other strapon, then it is working correctly.
Tezarius Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 When using a strapon (it does not matter who), after sex the message "you have lost vaginal virginity" pops out and the horns are equipped. Are you talking about the Virgin Chastity Strapon? If yes this should not be possible and I need more detail... what sex scene? And have you seen this occur more than once (you can recreated it)? If no, and it's some other strapon, then it is working correctly. Standart strapon sexlab (Calypso).
VirginMarie Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 When using a strapon (it does not matter who), after sex the message "you have lost vaginal virginity" pops out and the horns are equipped. Are you talking about the Virgin Chastity Strapon? If yes this should not be possible and I need more detail... what sex scene? And have you seen this occur more than once (you can recreated it)? If no, and it's some other strapon, then it is working correctly. Standart strapon sexlab (Calypso). Ok so there's no problem. All other strapons are not chastity devices. In fact they are not even devious devices. So if your intent was just to ask for a new feature, I'd have to say this is not an idea I'd want to use.
_SpaceHamster_ Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 I'm getting tired if the asphyxiation collar, since I just don't like how it blends in with my other armors. So I've put the "folks compelled to punish" chance to the max. I've been getting punished a few times, yet the collar didn't come off. Is there a way to see how many times I should get punished untill the collar comes off? After this, i've put the priestess erotic arts encouters to 6 a day to ensure that highest chance for replacing it with a love collar, and yet no priestess approached me, even though nothing else is happening. I don't know if this is the right way, but it seemed like so to me. I did this after someone approached me with a bodyguard and did stuff with me while in a pillory, so I'm assuming that these encounters happen after that. But it didn't I'm assuming these priestesses that replace the asphyxiation collar with the love collar are the priestesses of Dibella in the Temple of Dibella, right? (Anwen, Hamal, Orla and Senna). Again, I don't know if this is the correct way of replacing it with a love collar. Basically, is there a way to ensure that I will get a love collar as fast as possible? Or a trigger / key / whatever to remove that asphyxiation collar from me? Thanks in advance
VirginMarie Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 Is there a way to see how many times I should get punished untill the collar comes off? No. It's 2-3 times random, if it was equipped from pain is pleasure, or from Nocturnal saving you from death. It's 3-7 times if from failing to report in or losing virginity. This one escalates with max of 7. After this, i've put the priestess erotic arts encouters to 6 a day to ensure that highest chance for replacing it with a love collar, and yet no priestess approached me, even though nothing else is happening. They will eventually approach you, as long as you are changing location. You should also set "Chance Replaces Asphyxiation Collar" (device tab) to max. I did this after someone approached me with a bodyguard and did stuff with me while in a pillory, so I'm assuming that these encounters happen after that. That's the compelled to love you caused by wearing the Love Collar. Priestesses approaching you is not related to this. I'm assuming these priestesses that replace the asphyxiation collar with the love collar are the priestesses of Dibella in the Temple of Dibella, right? (Anwen, Hamal, Orla and Senna). Yes. And also Order of the Lily guys will do it. You could increase their chance too. But they will only show up if you are a virgin. Basically, is there a way to ensure that I will get a love collar as fast as possible? Or a trigger / key / whatever to remove that asphyxiation collar from me? The above covers it all. You could set "Collar Chance After Pain is Pleasure" (punishing devices tab) to 0, so you never get the Asphyxiation collar that way. You can't avoid getting it for failed to report in or losing virginity.
_SpaceHamster_ Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Is there a way to see how many times I should get punished untill the collar comes off? No. It's 2-3 times random, if it was equipped from pain is pleasure, or from Nocturnal saving you from death. It's 3-7 times if from failing to report in or losing virginity. This one escalates with max of 7. After this, i've put the priestess erotic arts encouters to 6 a day to ensure that highest chance for replacing it with a love collar, and yet no priestess approached me, even though nothing else is happening. They will eventually approach you, as long as you are changing location. You should also set "Chance Replaces Asphyxiation Collar" (device tab) to max. I did this after someone approached me with a bodyguard and did stuff with me while in a pillory, so I'm assuming that these encounters happen after that. That's the compelled to love you caused by wearing the Love Collar. Priestesses approaching you is not related to this. I'm assuming these priestesses that replace the asphyxiation collar with the love collar are the priestesses of Dibella in the Temple of Dibella, right? (Anwen, Hamal, Orla and Senna). Yes. And also Order of the Lily guys will do it. You could increase their chance too. But they will only show up if you are a virgin. Basically, is there a way to ensure that I will get a love collar as fast as possible? Or a trigger / key / whatever to remove that asphyxiation collar from me? The above covers it all. You could set "Collar Chance After Pain is Pleasure" (punishing devices tab) to 0, so you never get the Asphyxiation collar that way. You can't avoid getting it for failed to report in or losing virginity. Ah alright, I'll try getting punished more to remove the collar. Thanks for the help!
caocaothedeciever Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 Hi there! Great job with the mod.I have to ask though, in one of the screenshots you have, there's a device shown that looks a great deal like a Karada Shibari rope harness. Where did you get that one from?
VirginMarie Posted March 24, 2017 Author Posted March 24, 2017 Hi there! Great job with the mod. I have to ask though, in one of the screenshots you have, there's a device shown that looks a great deal like a Karada Shibari rope harness. Where did you get that one from? Bondage Straps All assets used are linked in the Credits & Thanks section of the main page.
VirginMarie Posted March 25, 2017 Author Posted March 25, 2017 v4.6 Released Nocturnal is no longer content to just whip you on things. Now she's whipping you when suspended! Considering how uncomfortable the Virgin Anal SoulGem is stuck up your butt, do you wish it could be more useful? It's a soulgem so it should be able to charge your weapons right!? Details on these and more here
DonQuiWho Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 v4.6 Released Nocturnal is no longer content to just whip you on things. Now she's whipping you when suspended! Considering how uncomfortable the Virgin Anal SoulGem is stuck up your butt, do you wish it could be more useful? It's a soulgem so it should be able to charge your weapons right!? Details on these and more here Thank you once again! You know, you should have your own TV show, 'Marie, The Virginal Apprentice!' Millions would watch, especially if, as the punishment for failure, you could conclude with a prodded poke, and declare, 'You're Plugged!"
VirginMarie Posted March 26, 2017 Author Posted March 26, 2017 You know, you should have your own TV show, 'Marie, The Virginal Apprentice!' Millions would watch, especially if, as the punishment for failure, you could conclude with a prodded poke, and declare, 'You're Plugged!" OMG I'm way too sweet and innocent for that
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