tontoman Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Hello, I was just wondering if there was a way to edit the files so that the cum isn't forced to be expelled. Is that at all possible? What exactly do you mean? To disable animations, there's a checkbox so it'll come out 'silently'. If you just want to keep taking in more without letting any out, that's not going to work without limits - but if you have animations disabled, and put the 'minimum' time slider to 250, you get pretty close (you'll probably just get the 'bursting' thing each time you're filled up more, but that's about it). Lastly you can grab the modified version I attached to my earlier, post, which makes it so you'll be 'plugged' if you set the minimum time slider to 250. What that does is, you'll neither take more cum in, nor let anything out at that point.. so you should keep what you have forever. So then you could set up the timer to 249, fill up, and then move it to 250 to put on the cork. Just been playing lately again with some free time, and this reminds me of something. Not sure if it's just me (being lucky now, or unlucky before), but I seem to remember a version of this working before. If you went over the max volume you could 'hold', not only did you get those 'bursting' messages, but the cum expel key got mostly disabled. As in you could try it, but you'd get messages saying 'the pain stops you from expelling' etc. And if it did work, it only worked for a very short time. I remember having to basically walk around until the 'min' timer wore off which then auto expelled until I was at my normal max. But now seems I have no trouble even when over filled?? Makes combat with giants (maxed out their amounts) that much more risky heh. Paired with mods like Defeat, added some extra risk to large animals or gangbangs. While over filled you can't get away fast enough (encumbrance on) at times and you can get tagged again with Defeat . Guess you can do it with turning off the animation totally, but always kinda liked the minigame of the manual expel. Be even better if could be set on a timer (one attempt every MCM time limit) and limit how much you can get rid of. Then a bit of a race to getting rid of enough before the next potential encounter. It can be pretty comical with Frostfall, having to camp out for a couple of days just so you can get rid of the bloat so you can walk faster than the super slow overstuffed speed. Then Cursed Loot triggers on the sleeping out of doors event, and you get restuffed .
TheRavenGod Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 Anyone know why the "Cum Amount Multiplier" keeps resetting to 0 any time I close the menu? I've verified the bodyslide works, and i seem to get the messages telling me that the mod is on. Its just staying at 0. Could another mod be preventing this? I don't have BeeingFemale or Estrus, are there any other major conflicts? EDIT: As far as I can tell, Fill Them Up (aka the quest that comes with the install) was causing it to break.
dragongodmod117 Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 Is it at all possible to make it that the butt gets bigger upon inflation? If that could be added, that'd be really sweet. Just a thought...
reikiri Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Is it at all possible to make it that the butt gets bigger upon inflation? If that could be added, that'd be really sweet. Just a thought... I think it was mentioned on some other thread - SGO3 maybe - that butt just isn't weight-scaled to work with 'inflation'.. and the results are something like, the butt sagging down below your buttocks, or stuff like that.
Yuni Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 I already have the beta 2.0 from my time in the dev conversation, but where would one get it if I lost it eventually? =O The only thread on here seems to have only version 1.0. Edit: I can confirm what was placed above. c: I used to love the minigame where you had to keep down the amount of cum in you or you would be stuck fully inflated, unable to push the cum out until the timer expired. You also used to drip once every hour or so if you were past full, until you were right at the 'overstuffed' level. 'Overstuffed' used to happen at 1.2 times maximum cum limit, with that number being the combination of anal and vaginal inflation. Edit: I meant to confirm with this post that you can still deflate yourself when you are past the 'stuck' limit even with animations. Sorry. Edit: Actually it's still prevented when animation is on. Sweet!
4onen Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 I already have the beta 2.0 from my time in the dev conversation, but where would one get it if I lost it eventually? =O The only thread on here seems to have only version 1.0. Edit: I can confirm what was placed above. c: I used to love the minigame where you had to keep down the amount of cum in you or you would be stuck fully inflated, unable to push the cum out until the timer expired. You also used to drip once every hour or so if you were past full, until you were right at the 'overstuffed' level. 'Overstuffed' used to happen at 1.2 times maximum cum limit, with that number being the combination of anal and vaginal inflation. Edit: I meant to confirm with this post that you can still deflate yourself when you are past the 'stuck' limit even with animations. Sorry. I include the V2 beta in the downloads of this thread. I wanted to keep that minigame too, but something in the code is broken. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what. I can't get male characters to inflate to 1.2x size either, despite changing the checks on gender a half dozen different times. Is 1.2x inflation broken for females too? I'm aware you can still deflate yourself past the stuck limit. Again, things have broken that I can't find ways to fix. In other news, I've been working on the dialogue. I now have a sr_fillherup.esp with all the dialogue implementing proper gender checks. Unfortunately, all the gender checks are against Skyrim gender rather than Sexlab gender. (Sorry! Writing half a billion Papyrus fragments wasn't on my to-do list.) Also, I still can't disable follower comments. I mean, I don't think I can. Maybe I can? I'll have to see what stopquest()ing the follower comment quest does. Aaaand the events system is still broken. I have no words, nor ideas. Well, I have some ideas, but they'll take a very long time.
Yuni Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 The weird this is that it actually stopped me from deflating when I went past the limit today. I edited my post above as you notice. Here's what you need: If you are already inflated a bunch, and just decrease the maximum inflation: 'stuck' will NOT trigger. If you are under the 'stuck' limit, and you are increased past the stuck limit, 'stuck' WILL trigger.
Yuni Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Ugh! At least I thought that would make it work. Now it's not working properly this time. Poo. *hmm*-
Yuni Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Hey I did some thinking and I might have some assistance in you understanding the 'filled to burst with cum' code. Let me set some variables here. Max cum amount: 6.0 'Filled to burst' = 6.0 * 1.2 = 7.2 inflation. Now that means if you end a sex act and your partner's cum puts you past 7.2, this means you are stuck at 'filled to burst'. HOWEVER. I remembered one little detail that will help. If the maximum is 6, one hole can only HOLD 6, and just one hole (anal or vaginal) cannot push you to 'filled to burst'. There must be cum in both holes to accomplish this. So for example, if you have 5.0 cum in vagina and get filled with 3.0 vaginal cum, it will NOT put you to 'filled to burst'. It will cap it off at 6.0 cum. But if you have 5.0 cum in vagina, and get filled with 3.0 Anal cum, you WILL be pushed across 'filled to burst', as the Anal variable still has 3 points of space left to hold cum. 5.0 + 3.0 = 8.0. 8.0 > 7.2, so filled to burst. Edit: I think part of the problem is other mods using NIO to do scaling. Or it relied on the old scaling method or something.
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Hey I did some thinking and I might have some assistance in you understanding the 'filled to burst with cum' code. Let me set some variables here. Max cum amount: 6.0 'Filled to burst' = 6.0 * 1.2 = 7.2 inflation. Now that means if you end a sex act and your partner's cum puts you past 7.2, this means you are stuck at 'filled to burst'. HOWEVER. I remembered one little detail that will help. If the maximum is 6, one hole can only HOLD 6, and just one hole (anal or vaginal) cannot push you to 'filled to burst'. There must be cum in both holes to accomplish this. So for example, if you have 5.0 cum in vagina and get filled with 3.0 vaginal cum, it will NOT put you to 'filled to burst'. It will cap it off at 6.0 cum. But if you have 5.0 cum in vagina, and get filled with 3.0 Anal cum, you WILL be pushed across 'filled to burst', as the Anal variable still has 3 points of space left to hold cum. 5.0 + 3.0 = 8.0. 8.0 > 7.2, so filled to burst. Edit: I think part of the problem is other mods using NIO to do scaling. Or it relied on the old scaling method or something. Playing with a female character, i don't have problems with many mods which edit nio, except for the estrus chaurus spider addon, that made strange edits somehow. Or at least they happened when i used it, partly it seems to me as nio has a limit of changes it can save and if that's full, weird things happen, like it ignores the settings from nioverride.ini, once my tits shrinked to zero after giving birth. But i can confirm that to get the filled to burst, you need both anal and vaginal filling, whould explain why it doesn't work on male characters. Maybe it's possible to add 'oral'? There is a vanilla coughing animation that could be used to expel cum there. Or maybe just bleedout.
Yuni Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 -snip- Playing with a female character, i don't have problems with many mods which edit nio, except for the estrus chaurus spider addon, that made strange edits somehow. Or at least they happened when i used it, partly it seems to me as nio has a limit of changes it can save and if that's full, weird things happen, like it ignores the settings from nioverride.ini, once my tits shrinked to zero after giving birth. But i can confirm that to get the filled to burst, you need both anal and vaginal filling, whould explain why it doesn't work on male characters. Maybe it's possible to add 'oral'? There is a vanilla coughing animation that could be used to expel cum there. Or maybe just bleedout. I would enjoy oral, though it might be difficult to add. Anus and Mouth feed to the same place -- the stomach. So it might or might not fill the same spot.
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 -snip- Playing with a female character, i don't have problems with many mods which edit nio, except for the estrus chaurus spider addon, that made strange edits somehow. Or at least they happened when i used it, partly it seems to me as nio has a limit of changes it can save and if that's full, weird things happen, like it ignores the settings from nioverride.ini, once my tits shrinked to zero after giving birth. But i can confirm that to get the filled to burst, you need both anal and vaginal filling, whould explain why it doesn't work on male characters. Maybe it's possible to add 'oral'? There is a vanilla coughing animation that could be used to expel cum there. Or maybe just bleedout. I would enjoy oral, though it might be difficult to add. Anus and Mouth feed to the same place -- the stomach. So it might or might not fill the same spot. Not entirely sure, but i don't think Skyrim, nio, etc know human biology very well So technically it shouldn't matter, but i have no clue how difficult it is to add another storage part in general. It might be an option for a male patch, though. Females already have options to get well stuffed
Yuni Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Hey I just realized this. One other thing you might not know of, that the original author wanted to add at some point: Alternate flavor/status messages/buffs for a character who LIKED being inflated, instead of one where over-inflation was bad. I don't know if the buffs would be easy to alter, but the status messages would be nice to have an option to toggle to 'happy mode' or such. Just letting you know that was in his plans.
4onen Posted March 24, 2016 Author Posted March 24, 2016 Well, there is an oral enumerator in the code. The problem is that the code ignores its own enumerators and uses booleans to handle vaginal and anal instead. Tracking down every boolean and changing it to an integer would be a nightmare, and would erase all existing data. On top of that, we'd need a new storageUtil float slot for each character to hold the cum ammount (or to rename the anal slot to stomach) more checks during the orgasm code for oral cumming, and quite a bit more. It actually sounds like a fun challenge, if I wasn't still concerned about the status message and events code. On the other hand, it'd make some bits of code simpler. *shrug* Now about male bursting: I may have taken out the code that checks both anal and vaginal are filled, and just checked whether the sum goes over, or of both holes are filled, or if the character is male and the anus is getting overfilled. It really should work. *sigh*
DemonKnightRaziel Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 Anyone else encountered a weird bug where NPC's that creampie you get filled themselves? Every time I get filled by Lydia she inflates herself at the same time as well. Not really sure why.
DemonKnightRaziel Posted April 9, 2016 Posted April 9, 2016 Something I think would be neat for this mod would be comments based upon whether or not someone 'contributed' to your current state, either using some sexlab function to check who's fucked you in the past few days or maybe detect whos sperm is inside you via Beeing Female, with responces varying between gloating and condescending to loving depending on who it was and your relationship. i.e. If enslaved by bandits or other low moral people they gloat about 'Putting some bastards in your belly', and 'don't think i'll pay any child support slut, it could be anyone's, won't get one rusty septim from me.', 'You're nothing more than our cum receptacle/baby factory now.', 'You're a good little cum dumpster, letting us dump our loads inside'. To say for example Futa Lydia commenting on how she can't wait for you to have her baby, ect. Could even have animals that have fucked you have text about them sniffing/licking/pawing at your seeded snatch or belly, or just acting protectively towards you now that you're carrying their seed.
4onen Posted April 12, 2016 Author Posted April 12, 2016 Anyone else encountered a weird bug where NPC's that creampie you get filled themselves? Every time I get filled by Lydia she inflates herself at the same time as well. Not really sure why. It's because it's surprisingly difficult to figure out who's sticking something into who in SexLab. I gave it my best shot by using a weird pile of checks built around the CumSpot array available from Orgasm events, but it's just fucked up in certain situations. It gets MF and MM right 95% of the time for me, so I shrugged and gave up debugging it. Something I think would be neat for this mod would be comments based upon whether or not someone 'contributed' to your current state, either using some sexlab function to check who's fucked you in the past few days or maybe detect whos sperm is inside you via Beeing Female, with responces varying between gloating and condescending to loving depending on who it was and your relationship. i.e. If enslaved by bandits or other low moral people they gloat about 'Putting some bastards in your belly', and 'don't think i'll pay any child support slut, it could be anyone's, won't get one rusty septim from me.', 'You're nothing more than our cum receptacle/baby factory now.', 'You're a good little cum dumpster, letting us dump our loads inside'. To say for example Futa Lydia commenting on how she can't wait for you to have her baby, ect. Could even have animals that have fucked you have text about them sniffing/licking/pawing at your seeded snatch or belly, or just acting protectively towards you now that you're carrying their seed. I'd love to see that! If you think you could do it, go ahead and try. I don't think that I could manage it because of how shitty Skyrim's dialogue system is. The fact that the messages Srende implemented are possible at all (weird stuff involving factions. Verrry sneaky) is already exceedingly impressive. All I've done is add gender checks to the existing messages, one by one. It took me hours.
DemonKnightRaziel Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 Anyone else encountered a weird bug where NPC's that creampie you get filled themselves? Every time I get filled by Lydia she inflates herself at the same time as well. Not really sure why. It's because it's surprisingly difficult to figure out who's sticking something into who in SexLab. I gave it my best shot by using a weird pile of checks built around the CumSpot array available from Orgasm events, but it's just fucked up in certain situations. It gets MF and MM right 95% of the time for me, so I shrugged and gave up debugging it. Well, how exactly do you have it disabled for males by default then? Is there no way to disable it for schlongified NPC's? Mods like SLEN and FloppySOS integrate with SOS and detect schlongified actors somehow, maybe whatever they use could be used to toggle it off for them?
4onen Posted April 13, 2016 Author Posted April 13, 2016 Anyone else encountered a weird bug where NPC's that creampie you get filled themselves? Every time I get filled by Lydia she inflates herself at the same time as well. Not really sure why. It's because it's surprisingly difficult to figure out who's sticking something into who in SexLab. I gave it my best shot by using a weird pile of checks built around the CumSpot array available from Orgasm events, but it's just fucked up in certain situations. It gets MF and MM right 95% of the time for me, so I shrugged and gave up debugging it. Well, how exactly do you have it disabled for males by default then? Is there no way to disable it for schlongified NPC's? Mods like SLEN and FloppySOS integrate with SOS and detect schlongified actors somehow, maybe whatever they use could be used to toggle it off for them? I don't touch SOS code at all. Remember, I've gotta deal with creatures and humans, so I work with the simplest subset of the two rather than writing special cases. SexLab animations have an array called CumSpot (I think, might've changed in a recent update. I know the code works and that's what matters) that tells scripts who's fucking who in SexLab animations. However, not all animations have valid CumSpot arrays. Hence, most animations will work properly, but a few will cause back-filling or somesuch. Also, I can't just disable inflation for all people with dicks. I started messing with this mod to enable MM inflation, after all.
perrymwt Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 273 Just one request: could the deflate hot-key work on targeted NPC's as well as the PC, if no NPC is targeted? It's been done in other mods like MME's milk status check, and is quite handy there. Thanks for the mod and update though.
Guest Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 I've encountered a bug in this mod. After I expel the cum there is still some left and when I try to get rid of the rest my character gets locked in the animation without the dripping effect and I have to jump to free her. The second time though, no cum was expelled and I have to either wait until she does it automatically or reset the mod. Is there some sort of cooldown for expelling cum?
4onen Posted April 14, 2016 Author Posted April 14, 2016 273 Just one request: could the deflate hot-key work on targeted NPC's as well as the PC, if no NPC is targeted? It's been done in other mods like MME's milk status check, and is quite handy there. Thanks for the mod and update though. I could do that, but I haven't got time at the moment. Philosophy final project coming up, as well as other finals threatening on the horizon. I've encountered a bug in this mod. After I expel the cum there is still some left and when I try to get rid of the rest my character gets locked in the animation without the dripping effect and I have to jump to free her. The second time though, no cum was expelled and I have to either wait until she does it automatically or reset the mod. Is there some sort of cooldown for expelling cum? Activating and deactivating the animation has a brief moment when the script is operating in an unlocked state. At that point, it could theoretically jam. I didn't think anything of it because I thought Srende had it covered with the Ostrich Algorithm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich_algorithm Anyway, there's no intentional cooldown. Spamming the key will break it like that, though. Soz.
Guest Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 I've encountered a bug in this mod. After I expel the cum there is still some left and when I try to get rid of the rest my character gets locked in the animation without the dripping effect and I have to jump to free her. The second time though, no cum was expelled and I have to either wait until she does it automatically or reset the mod. Is there some sort of cooldown for expelling cum? Activating and deactivating the animation has a brief moment when the script is operating in an unlocked state. At that point, it could theoretically jam. I didn't think anything of it because I thought Srende had it covered with the Ostrich Algorithm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich_algorithm Anyway, there's no intentional cooldown. Spamming the key will break it like that, though. Soz. So if I wait awhile before using the key again, it won't jam? Or is it permanently broken in my game? In that case I would need to reinstall.
downjonsie Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 This. Small problem, when installing your NiO pat ch, it seems to delete sources from the original. At first, when opening racemenu, half of the body scale features are gone, and my player had t-rex arms. I installed racemenu over again (and NiO) which seemed to have fixed it. Causes no problems as of yet. But. This! This is a great revamp to another great mod.
4onen Posted April 18, 2016 Author Posted April 18, 2016 I've encountered a bug in this mod. After I expel the cum there is still some left and when I try to get rid of the rest my character gets locked in the animation without the dripping effect and I have to jump to free her. The second time though, no cum was expelled and I have to either wait until she does it automatically or reset the mod. Is there some sort of cooldown for expelling cum? Activating and deactivating the animation has a brief moment when the script is operating in an unlocked state. At that point, it could theoretically jam. I didn't think anything of it because I thought Srende had it covered with the Ostrich Algorithm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich_algorithm Anyway, there's no intentional cooldown. Spamming the key will break it like that, though. Soz. So if I wait awhile before using the key again, it won't jam? Or is it permanently broken in my game? In that case I would need to reinstall. I think a cell change or two should have the scripts reset. If it doesn't, give clean-saving a try. Sorry it didn't work out of the box, but eh. It's Skryim. This. Small problem, when installing your NiO pat ch, it seems to delete sources from the original. At first, when opening racemenu, half of the body scale features are gone, and my player had t-rex arms. I installed racemenu over again (and NiO) which seemed to have fixed it. Causes no problems as of yet. But. This! This is a great revamp to another great mod. You can pick either the latest RaceMenu or the latest NiO. There's no need for both. (However, they shouldn't cause problems for each other. RaceMenu includes NiO as a part of itself anyway) Glad I could... I was going to write, "give you a good time," but that wording sounds awkward. Anyway, have fun!
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