Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[titlover123]

2 hours ago, Elsidia said:

It's selfbondage.

MCM->Consequences->SelfBondage enabled. need uncheck this.

 

I fixed it myself... apparently my problem came from dragonborn in distress, drug addiction and gag/bondage reliance is a bad combo if you're planning to play "solo"

(no companions)

[Niveket]

after trying to fix a problem with sex animations being broken my bannered mare is broke and i can't enter without crash and alot of the DD/DCL fuctions with restraints have broken completely like some restraits don't do anything/ don't exist and as an example if you try to open a d.a.m.n suprise box i just equip it as armor instead i have no idea how i even broke it this much since some restrains from DD/DCL still work

 

 

  

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, Niveket said:

i have no idea how i even broke

You use SSE but there is SLE. Also as i see from pictures you install DD LE version and always DD SSE version and wonder why those not work.

DDA 3.0 zip is from LE version and probably those meshes cause a CTD. Also if you have more LE mods what not compatible with SSE - it causes a CTD. Also devious lore is only SLE version and probably not work with SSE - you can try convert it by your own using special tools, but if devious lore contains ddl and scripts what not compatible with SSE - it's not work anyway.

 

Edited: Also i see you use LE DDI ddl and what use SKSE for LE version. This is include into SSE DD 4.3 and also cause a crash because SSE doesn't have skse but skse64.

Solution: Do the fresh install of Skyrim and install ONLY SSE mods.

[shiagwen]

The solification quest has some weak points :

 

1. The innkeeper gives it only if the pc has no dd on.  no reason for this

2. the collar from leah or leah avoids this quest from the innkeeper. this should be possible,  also given from leon or leah.

3. approaching doesnt work most of the time, this is a major point.

4. nearby beds as already said.

[thedarkone1234]

8 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

The solification quest has some weak points :

 

1. The innkeeper gives it only if the pc has no dd on.  no reason for this

2. the collar from leah or leah avoids this quest from the innkeeper. this should be possible,  also given from leon or leah.

3. approaching doesnt work most of the time, this is a major point.

4. nearby beds as already said.

Point 3 you can set in the MCM how likely you are to be succesful

[Elsidia]

7 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

2. the collar from leah or leah avoids this quest from the innkeeper. this should be possible,  also given from leon or leah.

When Leash quest running - in debug section is marked as active quest run - other quest and some DCL features  is blocked because.

 

14 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

1. The innkeeper gives it only if the pc has no dd on.  no reason for this

Not sure about what quest you speak: if about work as slut - no dd items is necessary because innkeeper can put on you many dd items for better work.

if about solicitation sex quest - if you have chastity belt on - you can't sex with people.

 

[thedarkone1234]

@Elsidia, why is the first quote marked as if I said it? I didn't XD

[Naps-On-Dirt]

@Kimy, @HexBolt8 is updating Simple Slavery, and needs to know how to send a player into slavery with Leon and Leah... how to initialize XDFF.  One idea someone brought up was to just teleport someone to Ustolf's mansion and give them the package from Belethor so they'd have to play through the Leon quest, but doing that skips the prelude and story setup explaining why you are there and what you need to do.  

[Elsidia]

11 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

I didn't XD

I mess up with posts that's why) Sorry.

[UnEvenSteven]

I had posted this idea over in the new Simple Slavery Plus Plus thread but I get the feeling it was missed. I think it's also important to post the idea here in the hopes you'd add the necessary mod events so CL can hook into SSPP.

 

16 hours ago, UnEvenSteven said:

Nice to see this picked up and worked on again.

 

Speaking of Cursed Loot, there's also the Tavern Whore that SS could use as an outcome. You can't escape from Tavern Whore, if you try and leave the tavern you're working in you'll just get bound tighter and tighter and IIRC ported back to the tavern. So you have to earn enough gold to be freed from the TW collar.

 

Then there's Dagonar Prison that could be used. The simple explanation is that the Warden purchases slaves every now and then to work in the prison, as you are forced to do when you're sentenced there, to increase productivity of prison-made goods. While you will eventually be set free you get to spend a minimum of 8 days in the prison barring any escape attempts or booking errors decreasing or increasing the days you're sentenced to.

 

Dagonar and Tavern Whore seem like they could be nice outcomes for Simple Slavery.

[Niveket]

5 hours ago, Elsidia said:

You use SSE but there is SLE. Also as i see from pictures you install DD LE version and always DD SSE version and wonder why those not work.

DDA 3.0 zip is from LE version and probably those meshes cause a CTD. Also if you have more LE mods what not compatible with SSE - it causes a CTD. Also devious lore is only SLE version and probably not work with SSE - you can try convert it by your own using special tools, but if devious lore contains ddl and scripts what not compatible with SSE - it's not work anyway.

 

Edited: Also i see you use LE DDI ddl and what use SKSE for LE version. This is include into SSE DD 4.3 and also cause a crash because SSE doesn't have skse but skse64.

Solution: Do the fresh install of Skyrim and install ONLY SSE mods.

.... Sorry should have mentioned that all the mods are converted to SE and that my game was working without any problems for a couple of days before i started playing around with my lload order 

[Elsidia]

37 minutes ago, Niveket said:

all the mods are converted to SE

Then take off devious devices LE version because it's not necessary - make more stress on Skyrim and also i think this is reason why dd stopped work - LE scripts rewrite SE scripts and nothing work. Also in SE no working DD ddL - i try different and not works - you need remove this ddl too as LE version as SE.

Edited: with ddl not works dd items interaction menu - as you describe.

 

 

[shiagwen]

3 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Point 3 you can set in the MCM how likely you are to be succesful

where exactly ?  if you mean the chance to sucessfully get a client, that has nothing to do with my question.  even with 100 % you dont get an aproach because of this. this means only that the client you talk to will not neglect.

[shiagwen]

3 hours ago, Elsidia said:

When Leash quest running - in debug section is marked as active quest run - other quest and some DCL features  is blocked because.

 

Not sure about what quest you speak: if about work as slut - no dd items is necessary because innkeeper can put on you many dd items for better work.

if about solicitation sex quest - if you have chastity belt on - you can't sex with people.

 

it is not only because of a chastity belt. it can be a piercing or anything that prevents the quest showing up.

[GuruSR]

Is there a Defeat DCL patch to stop the rape event from starting mid-defeat scene?  Had a defeat scene where they were about to have their way with the player and then "so and so is going to rape you", since the player was already locked into an animation, it wasn't included in the rape, so the two just dry humped nothing and since I wasn't in the animation, I had to wait for it to end manually.

 

GuruSR.

[Elsidia]

What is condition for starting quest - "Saving Sasha"?

[Kimy]

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

it is not only because of a chastity belt. it can be a piercing or anything that prevents the quest showing up.

I have fixed this for the upcoming version.

[Kimy]

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

What is condition for starting quest - "Saving Sasha"?

None yet. It's "work in progress"

[Kimy]

7 hours ago, GuruSR said:

Is there a Defeat DCL patch to stop the rape event from starting mid-defeat scene?  Had a defeat scene where they were about to have their way with the player and then "so and so is going to rape you", since the player was already locked into an animation, it wasn't included in the rape, so the two just dry humped nothing and since I wasn't in the animation, I had to wait for it to end manually.

 

GuruSR.

Defeat and DCL's sex attacks are incompatible. If you want to use Defeat with DCL, disable DCL's sex attack/surrender feature.

 

I will not provide any compatibility patch for this mod, as I personally consider it made obsolete by DCL (I implemented DCL's Combat Surrender for the exact reason to replace the Death Alternative/Defeat combo)

[Kimy]

10 hours ago, UnEvenSteven said:

I had posted this idea over in the new Simple Slavery Plus Plus thread but I get the feeling it was missed. I think it's also important to post the idea here in the hopes you'd add the necessary mod events so CL can hook into SSPP.

 

 

Dagonar and Tavern Whore seem like they could be nice outcomes for Simple Slavery.

I will look into providing a hook for this quest for 3rd party mods to launch it. However, this quest is a bit situational, as it requires the player being in a tavern to start it. No promises.

 

The prison already has a hook: Just use SendModEvent("dcur-triggerPrison") and off to prison she goes!  

[Kimy]

11 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

@Kimy, @HexBolt8 is updating Simple Slavery, and needs to know how to send a player into slavery with Leon and Leah... how to initialize XDFF.  One idea someone brought up was to just teleport someone to Ustolf's mansion and give them the package from Belethor so they'd have to play through the Leon quest, but doing that skips the prelude and story setup explaining why you are there and what you need to do.  

They already contacted me about it. I will look into it.

[shiagwen]

55 minutes ago, Kimy said:

I have fixed this for the upcoming version.

please tell me you release the next version tomorrow

 

btw : you have hundreds of sliders and % in mcm, so one more wont make it worse. 

the innkeeper  demands a n amount of gold from the prostitute to work . that number could be given a slider or % in mcm, so you can make the prostitution time short or long, even couple of days.

 

problem are too less clients in inns and brothels. if more, = ctd . with default settings, the pc can be happy to get 2 or 3 clients in a tavern.

the trick is to put necessary arousal to zero and accepting over 100 %..

loctypeinn in ck locations -city name- allows her to leave the tavern with collar on and take people from street or other taverns in town.

At this  moment CL solification does not differ from other prostitution mods like radiant prostitution.  to have a couple of mods for the same feature but with different spoecialities is a pain to choose.

 

[Kimy]

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

please tell me you release the next version tomorrow

 

btw : you have hundreds of sliders and % in mcm, so one more wont make it worse. 

the innkeeper  demands a n amount of gold from the prostitute to work . that number could be given a slider or % in mcm, so you can make the prostitution time short or long, even couple of days.

 

problem are too less clients in inns and brothels. if more, = ctd . with default settings, the pc can be happy to get 2 or 3 clients in a tavern.

the trick is to put necessary arousal to zero and accepting over 100 %..

loctypeinn in ck locations -city name- allows her to leave the tavern with collar on and take people from street or other taverns in town.

At this  moment CL solification does not differ from other prostitution mods like radiant prostitution.  to have a couple of mods for the same feature but with different spoecialities is a pain to choose.

 

I can promise you that DCL 9 will NOT release tomorrow. ?

 

Also, at this point, additional MCM sliders DO hurt. Many people don't know that, but there is a maximum of variables a script can have, and my MCM script is fairly close to it. These days I have to think twice before adding another MCM control.

 

I can tinker with the default settings, though. Personally I use a few mods that add population to taverns, so it never occurred to me that this could be a problem. But I see your point!

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

problem are too less clients in inns and brothels.

I don't know if it's work with LE version but in SE version it's work fine - some of women NPC not like to sex with you but like to pay for that sex - find it - then check her arousal level - is too low: do one dance. After that  - you can complete this quest in few seconds - because she pay for you but arousal level not goes down. Start new solicitation and got more money.

Also even if she agree to sex after that you can dance and increase her arousal high.

[GuruSR]

4 hours ago, Kimy said:

Defeat and DCL's sex attacks are incompatible. If you want to use Defeat with DCL, disable DCL's sex attack/surrender feature.

 

I will not provide any compatibility patch for this mod, as I personally consider it made obsolete by DCL (I implemented DCL's Combat Surrender for the exact reason to replace the Death Alternative/Defeat combo)

I'll look at it, though, didn't see similar settings.

 

Also, can you possibly avoid having rape happen from non-stock NPCs, as it caused an issue with a quest (Laura's Bondage Shop), where someone was locked in a cage raped the player!  I had to reload, you can easily check the mod's 2 hex byte by using the (actor's GetFormID() / 16777216) As Int, that value will be 0-255 (the mod index), so a function like:

 

Bool Function ValidMod(Actor Target)

If Target != None

   Int M = (Target.GetFormID() / 16777216) As Int

   return (M == 255 || M < 3)

EndIf

EndFunction

 

Also had a vampire in town join in on a rape session (who burned to a crisp and died, LOL, daywalker with a case of deathness), rape scene somewhat sat there for a bit, not sure what to say, but he was a waiter and died waiting (Vampiric Thirst), also any reason why the NPCs you grab teleport back at the end, it looks weird (even when they're dead after sex (Succubus Heart, Patch 2 [not up yet]).  I've turned the rate down on rapes, but still see them breaking apart dialogues, which means a reload because sometimes the dialogue you need to read, gets cut off and the quest you were doing, either gets stuck or progresses past that dialogue and you miss important information.

 

Any chance for the bleedout at the end of the rape to be perhaps the laying on the ground exhausted animation?

 

GuruSR.