Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[GuruSR]

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I do some test and can say:

 

This is anti cheat system - when you sleep time for rubber doll quest not going - that means if you have rubber doll collar you can sleep 1000 hours and quest not continue.

Also waiting system haven't that anti cheat system - i don't know why: or make players life easier or forgot about it and not make the system for wait.

If you got on rubber doll collar - wait 12 hours (default time to expand) Then stay and wait while collar expands to suit. Repeat process while you got all details on you.

Edited: it's not work in your build home - build home is place where DCL events are forbidden.

I was in an Inn doing the sleeping, actually in Dawnstar.  I did fix the mod with respect to the suit, so it wouldn't unequip anymore by normal means, so that helped the quest progress, though I *DID* find the reason behind the hood being removed, apparently the slot is set to remove it in Sexlab, but DD doesn't automatically disable all the slots it needs, so all animations will undo whatever it has them set for, I went looking and sure enough, the head was set to remove on one set of animations, I turned that off and it fixed the hood from being removed.

 

5 hours ago, Elsidia said:

If you got on black armbinder it's not from Rubber dool quest. Probably it's a devious devices ddl bug - sometimes it equips rendered device and forgot equip inventory device. Then when you next time equip the same type of item (armbinder) it's show up only before equiped rendered device on you.

How to solve? In console check your inventory and remove that bugged rendered device. Or find inventory device for that and equip it by console - then escape from it by inventory. That fixes that bug. Also i think you got Rubber doll armbinder in inventory - after remove bugged item you can manually equip rubber doll armbinder and continue a quest.

I've no idea where that armbinder came from, it was just after/at the same time as the notice of expansion, I later turned up the ability to rip it off by "accident" and was able to get it off and manually remove it from the inventory and unequip it, then I re-equipped another one, manipulated the locks and unlocked it, that cleaned up the armbinder, then about 10 minutes of play later, I finally got the pink armbinder for the doll, then the quest was able to continue.

 

When I got to the Dollmaker, there is a missing "you" in one of her conversations about "whore" (trying to not to ruin this for anyone), when I read the sentence it was indeed missing a "you".  Other than that, it is working fine from here out, now that I got past the suit issue by adding that keyword in.

 

Though I find it odd the Dollmaker can't make out people with a gag in, I mean, she *IS* the Dollmaker, shouldn't she?

 

Off to do the rest of the quest, see if it works fine, then off to do Leon's party stuff, because I can't while the Dollmaker is going.

 

Oh, DD's random events, tripping over heels (while not moving, nice trick, yes, I know, no velocity info like Oblivion had), happened while I was waiting for BA to unequip at the return, though for a moment there, I thought the dialogue timeout was going to happen, as I see on some of the solicitation where you ask for keys.

 

GuruSR.

[Tenri]

2 hours ago, GuruSR said:

... though I *DID* find the reason behind the hood being removed, apparently the slot is set to remove it in Sexlab, but DD doesn't automatically disable all the slots it needs, so all animations will undo whatever it has them set for, I went looking and sure enough, the head was set to remove on one set of animations, I turned that off and it fixed the hood from being removed.

 

Though I find it odd the Dollmaker can't make out people with a gag in, I mean, she *IS* the Dollmaker, shouldn't she?

Most DDs have the SexLabNoStrip keyword and that should prevent SexLab from stripping them, can't say I have extensively tested that though.

 

 

I remember the dollmaker being able to ignore gags in the past but it has been a while since I've gone to her wearing one, did you get a fully blocked dialogue with her, or just the first blocking Mmph or w/e and then normal dialogue?

[LeRoiDuCaca]

Anyone knows if its possible to trigger the bound queen quest. Cause i cannot find the note in any ornate or boss chest even the its 100% chance to find it. Any command to start the quest for example ?

[Elsidia]

9 minutes ago, Lekefeno said:

to start the quest for example

Spoiler

open console

help "bound queen"

player.additem id

close console

read a book bound queen

 

[LazyBoot]

18 minutes ago, Lekefeno said:

Anyone knows if its possible to trigger the bound queen quest. Cause i cannot find the note in any ornate or boss chest even the its 100% chance to find it. Any command to start the quest for example ?

make sure you're high enough level for it to naturally spawn

[GuruSR]

5 hours ago, Tenri said:

Most DDs have the SexLabNoStrip keyword and that should prevent SexLab from stripping them, can't say I have extensively tested that though.

 

 

I remember the dollmaker being able to ignore gags in the past but it has been a while since I've gone to her wearing one, did you get a fully blocked dialogue with her, or just the first blocking Mmph or w/e and then normal dialogue?

After her getting the quest to continue, it was a full block, she couldn't understand me (the []'ed message about you need to get rid of the gag).

 

And in the process of doing sex to get rid of it (just now actually), a nearby NPC wanted to rape the player while I was trying to get another to do the same, but right in the middle of the setup apparently "I was searching the <playername> and found some devices", out of nowhere because I didn't get to talk to the other npc because they moved off when the rape started, then that messagebox showed up and the player went into bleedout and got locked up tighter, now is doing a DDYokeSolo instead of having the rape sex she was starting to do.  No clue why it did that, I wasn't in any dialogue at the moment, totally bizarre.  I wonder if that has anything to do with Selfbondage, I believe I have that set so it won't happen.

 

EDIT:  The Rubber Doll quest is over, sadly, I am still locked in the Rubber Doll Hood (the open one).  Any suggestions?

 

GuruSR.

[GuruSR]

Working through LEON:

 

Teleport worked just fine, the scene where you had to do things for the person you were brought there by, should really disable the player controls, very confusing, because as soon as he said that, it said talk to him again, so I did, saw the "Thats it?", thinking that was all he wanted, apparently there was a non-scene happening in the middle of this and I ran to the chest for the next marked part in the quest.  The guard apparently hates that guy and tried murdering him while we were in the non-scene stuff outside the door the guard was at (oof).  So, when that was over, everything else seemed to work, except the Party outfit, they won't go on on the first attempt, it repeats the dialogue for all of the pieces.  I hit the Put ons twice to get them to go, then the guard inspected them and checked my boots, boots, I don't have any boots!

 

Now on the hunt for items, boots, need those, looking for them...

 

GuruSR.

[twsnider1138]

13 hours ago, Kimy said:

For gag sounds, make sure to have GagSFX installed.

 

And more gag sounds will be added to various events in the next version!

I do have GagSFX installed at the moment but thanks for letting me know there will be more to come. You’ve made this gag talk fetishist very happy, boss. ?

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, twsnider1138 said:

GagSFX installed

Is this work for SE version? I don't see special SE version in LL

[DayTri]

11 hours ago, Lekefeno said:

Anyone knows if its possible to trigger the bound queen quest. Cause i cannot find the note in any ornate or boss chest even the its 100% chance to find it. Any command to start the quest for example ?

There is also a level threshold for the quest, are you at the right level?

[GuruSR]

Finished Leon, didn't have any issues with it other than the two non-scene sex bits, recommend to avoid anyone from activating the npcs during them, to disable the player controls through it, not like we need to do anything anyways, plus it'll hide the quest updates that happen beforehand.

 

Also, pathing issue in the downstairs of Leon's home, he can't seem to walk up the stairs:

 

GuruSR.

 

[EblisAzadi]

I have question 

Can we capture enemies with cursed loot or devious devices? 

[GuruSR]

A Damsel in Distress, got the armbinder off, but it didn't register as going off and I had to have a blacksmith cut it off (when it wasn't in my inventory).  Now the quest won't continue.

 

GuruSR.

[Elsidia]

19 minutes ago, Eblis Azadi said:

Can we capture enemies with cursed loot

Yes. In cursed loot are enemy surrender. For me it's works bad - it's surrender but nothing to do. maybe something wrong with my game.

But there is 2 more options:

1) spell - use on women and she are tied up.

2) Dollmaker sword - sometimes it's tied up women enemy with hit.

 

After woman tied up you can choose what you wan to do with her.

 

 

 

[Elsidia]

8 minutes ago, GuruSR said:

A Damsel in Distress, got the armbinder off,

Nope. After you get off armbinder and left a cage you are on your own path - need many Hand restraints keys to free your hands. Quest goes further when you start free one piece by one.  Quest directive not changed. When you get first hand restraints key you can try to unlock hands - after success you can use second key to unlock next piece and etc. If you fail need try later.

All free process takes about 20 - 40 different keys (hand, legs, body, head)

 

 

[GuruSR]

8 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Nope. After you get off armbinder and left a cage you are on your own path - need many Hand restraints keys to free your hands. Quest goes further when you start free one piece by one.  Quest directive not changed. When you get first hand restraints key you can try to unlock hands - after success you can use second key to unlock next piece and etc. If you fail need try later.

All free process takes about 20 - 40 different keys (hand, legs, body, head)

But the problem was, the armbinder was stuck on, I had to actually unlock it, because it kept armbinding after leaving the cage.  I couldn't see it in the inventory, but it was still locked on and after seeing a locksmith to get rid of the armbinder, the gloves are off, meaning her hands were free but the quest didn't continue, so the gloves are missing the keyword to stop the blacksmith from being able to cut the locks off of it.

 

I reloaded it and it is saying resetting stance for Armbinder Elbow, so must be one of the multiple sets of gloves locked on or still the armbinder, not sure, but I did get the hands free, now it just says get the restraints off.

 

There is a word missing in this phrase (in the quest description):

 

"Multiple layers of blindfolds and gags make sure that you can neither see nor speak."

 

Does the quest allow guards to unlock parts for cash or are these only unlockable by specific keys at the point of "Escape your restraints" part?

 

GuruSR.

[Elsidia]

6 hours ago, GuruSR said:

But the problem was, the armbinder was stuck on, I had to actually unlock it, because it kept armbinding after leaving the cage.

Don't get it. You see the armbinder on you? If not then unlock armbinder's by blacksmiths is from another mod as i heard and of course it can't know about your quest in DCL and unlock your  gloves as armbinder. As i understand elbow armbinder animation is on those gloves because to keep your hands back locked.

If you see physically armbinder on you then you need check your inventory in console and there will be left rendered armbinder instance worn.

If you free from blacksmith of course quest not continue because:

1) When you legally unlock gloves - quest mark as mini completed stage and LOCK on you other gloves what need also ride by hand keys. And when you ride those gloves there maybe is next stage of those gloves. And then and ONLY then quest goes to next stage.

Later i test this quest and show all stages by pictures if i can't explain for you by words.

 

 

[Elsidia]

12 hours ago, GuruSR said:

the armbinder was stuck on

Tutorial in pictures how to free in quest Damsel in Distress.

Don't open a spoiler if you want rid this quest by yourself.

Spoiler

 

1. First i equip random DDX armbinder and show that blaksmith don't have option to free you from armbinder.

 

2. First ministage - free from hogtied:

 

3. Second ministage - free from armbinder:

 

4. Third ministage - found a key and open a cage:

 

5. Now i walk to Blacksmith and show you up - no menu to free from armbinder:

 

6. Second screen of blaksmith ending dialogue:

 

7. Forth ministage - get open a rubber gloves:

 

7. For that you need that key:

 

8. When you have that key press unlock and:

 

If you don't have a key there 0% chance to try to escape - you lost only stamina.

 

8. When success on unlock a rubber gloves with key:

 

9. In debug line shows up:

 

!!!!!!! After that wait some time or enter in console: quest now reequip new restraints and you now need unlock rubber gloves with hand restraint keys. The procedure is same as before. You need cycle this opening while all hand restraints are unlocked and finally you unlock a rubber gloves and next quest stage happens.

 

Edited: How look quest directive after unlocking first stage of rubber gloves:

 

 

Edited second time:

 

Spoiler

Some stages are different from my explaining - but system are the same - press unlock on rubber gloves - also some stages not need a key - just i don't want to kill your joy to explore yourself. Just clue - follow the instructions what are give at end of struggle animations.

After all ministages my quest directive look that:

 

[GuruSR]

8 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Don't get it. You see the armbinder on you? If not then unlock armbinder's by blacksmiths is from another mod as i heard and of course it can't know about your quest in DCL and unlock your  gloves as armbinder. As i understand elbow armbinder animation is on those gloves because to keep your hands back locked.

If you see physically armbinder on you then you need check your inventory in console and there will be left rendered armbinder instance worn.

If you free from blacksmith of course quest not continue because:

1) When you legally unlock gloves - quest mark as mini completed stage and LOCK on you other gloves what need also ride by hand keys. And when you ride those gloves there maybe is next stage of those gloves. And then and ONLY then quest goes to next stage.

Later i test this quest and show all stages by pictures if i can't explain for you by words.

No, the armbinder wasn't on the player, so was able to unlock and leave the cage, but the armbinder was "still present" so to speak, because the arms went right back to being locked behind, thought that was maybe the gloves with the D lock, they they weren't stopping regular melee, then they did, then they didn't, so I wasn't sure, so I went to a blacksmith and he offered to remove the armbinder, what armbinder, I don't see one.  I never checked the console, I just reloaded and tried a few other things with keys and such, I got past that, so am now onto the "Escape your restraints", done a few of them, though it looks like they vanish when you do, not sure what happens at the end, not there yet.

 

6 hours ago, Elsidia said:

 

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Some stages are different from my explaining - but system are the same - press unlock on rubber gloves - also some stages not need a key - just i don't want to kill your joy to explore yourself. Just clue - follow the instructions what are give at end of struggle animations.

After all ministages my quest directive look that:

 

 

That is where I am right now, but hands are 100% free, I did run out of keys doing some of the other parts, so it'll be a while before I find more, apparently they're sparse lately, can't seem to find much of anything in chests.

 

GuruSR.

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, GuruSR said:

find much of anything in chests.

My advice - harvest plants there a lot of keys. I harvest all whiterun twice) and all other cities - also use dollmaker "touch of control" spell on enemies or women city guards - then release her and take all - there is chance to got those rare keys.

 

1 hour ago, GuruSR said:

No, the armbinder wasn't on the player, so was able to unlock and leave the cage, but the armbinder was "still present" so to speak, because the arms went right back to being locked behind, thought that was maybe the gloves with the D lock, they they weren't stopping regular melee, then they did, then they didn't, so I wasn't sure, so I went to a blacksmith and he offered to remove the armbinder, what armbinder, I don't see one.  I never checked the console, I just reloaded and tried a few other things with keys and such, I got past that, so am now onto the "Escape your restraints", done a few of them, though it looks like they vanish when you do, not sure what happens at the end, not there yet.

After remove the armbinder of course hands are back as you can from my screenshots see because you still worn other hand restraints what place your hands back - but blacksmith "remove armbinder" is from ANOTHER mod because using it you BREAK a DCL quest - that's simple.

 

 

[LeRoiDuCaca]

@Kimy

I was wondering is you had any projects about Sasha's dom personnality. New dialogs, interactions with her, or maybe quest. Like maybe develop a bit more the relationship between the PC and sasha before the PC gets completly enslaved. Like a submissivness threshold, were the pc would have interactions with Sasha and once the PC is submissive enough sasha decides the keep him/her as her slave forever, until she decides to let him/her go or that the PC escapes. Also, others ideas to add maybe, like a reaction from sasha when the PC talks to her again after escaping her grasp for the first time (when the PC escapes with the key for example). Maybe she wouldnt let herself be dominated anymore and she would only let the PC talk to her if she/he become her slave again. And lastly, maybe add interactions with the Dollmaker when the PC is dominated by Sasha. Because the dollmaker should probably change her attitude toward the PC when he/she is dominated by her daughter. Maybe add a dialog where the PC pleads for help to the dollmaker. In which he could lie to her saying that the collar she/he has on isnt from sasha and that he/she really needs to get unlocked. Or where she/he tells the truth in which case the Dollmaker would side with Sasha saying that the PC wanted to be a slave anyway and then proceeds to help her daughter, by creating more devious devices for the PC to wear or by training the pc to be more subimissive. ( obviously the pc can still do the dollmaker's quest but he wont get paid for it because she knows that the PC is her daughter's slave). Thats it, thx for reading all that if you did. Amazing job on the mod anyways ^^ 

[GuruSR]

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

My advice - harvest plants there a lot of keys. I harvest all whiterun twice) and all other cities - also use dollmaker "touch of control" spell on enemies or women city guards - then release her and take all - there is chance to got those rare keys.

 

After remove the armbinder of course hands are back as you can from my screenshots see because you still worn other hand restraints what place your hands back - but blacksmith "remove armbinder" is from ANOTHER mod because using it you BREAK a DCL quest - that's simple.

Plants, actually don't think I have done much of that, but, the "Touch of Control", never did figure out what that was for because I didn't read anything anywhere about it (not even in the description of the spell itself), so wasn't sure what it did, though when I did use it the one time, the person raped the player, wasn't sure if that was intended or not.

 

Yes, I reloaded and got the armbinder off the DCL way, though I figured all of those wouldn't open from a blacksmith, the gloves can be apparently, think that was from Devious Lore, so chances are, might want to in the next update, make sure none of them can be unlocked from other mods, though only the gloves didn't complain about being unlocked, all the others said they were too strong, so maybe a keyword on that one.

 

GuruSR.

[Elsidia]

40 minutes ago, GuruSR said:

Touch of Control

When you cast on women (enemies or it works on city guards too - also it's not angry or add a crime) - women was tied up and when you speak with her you have a new dialogue options - release and take all items, rape her, kill her or follow me - enemies in that state can be sell to Slave Trader, guards not - he not want business with city guards)

 

[anonyymi94]

Any tips? POP (Prison Overhaul Patched) wont trigger when im sended to prison by Cursed loot. Example after combat surrender. It always send me to Dragonar pison. I have tried slider "Prison Overhaul chance" like on 0, 50, 99 and even 100 and still always i got send to Dragonar. Cursed loot's "optional mods" menu recognizes Prison Overhaul just fine.

[darktej]

41 minutes ago, anonyymi94 said:

Any tips? POP (Prison Overhaul Patched) wont trigger when im sended to prison by Cursed loot. Example after combat surrender. It always send me to Dragonar pison. I have tried slider "Prison Overhaul chance" like on 0, 50, 99 and even 100 and still always i got send to Dragonar. Cursed loot's "optional mods" menu recognizes Prison Overhaul just fine.

I think in the MCM menu for DCL...go to the Crime tab...and check for the option "Use Vanilla Prisons" (not sure but something similar). hopefully that should work.