Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[thedarkone1234]

3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Not a plug. Really, not a plug  But try out the SLD rape feature, and see if you get similar problems.

If you do, then your animations are corrupted, because SLD will never play an all female animation, and doesn't support lesbian rape.

 

If you don't see any wrong animations from SLD, it's a confirmed bug in DCL.

I am going to sound like an idiot now, but what exactly is SLD? (SexLab D...something, I guess XD)

 

 I tried searching for it on site but all I found was you referring to it, but never what it is ?

[Lupine00]

13 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

I tried searching for it on site but all I found was you referring to it, but never what it is 

The first rule of SLD is that you... 

 

But seriously, good point. I put it in my signature. Should have done it months ago.

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

The first rule of SLD is that you... 

 

But seriously, good point. I put it in my signature. Should have done it months ago.

You should have seriously put the thread on SL side, not in adult mods forum (there's SL in the mod name too...)   We don't browse that area too often. Maybe a moderator can still move it for you.

[fred200]

Second that. I had no idea your mod existed.

 

[PenBoozerX]

Hey, possibly a bug with the Working Girl scenario. Works perfectly fine otherwise, except when asked to get "tied up tight" from innkeep, any sex scenes after that stop happening trough DCL. The dialog works, customer might even invite a friend that spawns on you, but sex scene never runs. You still get a reward for the supposed sex that was supposed to happen if you talk to the customer again though.

Forced a sex trigger via another mod while in this state and other mods were still able to run scenes, DCL just stops running them for whatever reason. If the innkeep put restraints on me by herself, scenes ran fine. Just not if I asked to get tied.

[RegisteredUser]

17 hours ago, kiesu said:

Using "Vanilla prison" doesn't actually get rid of the DCL dialog and alt events at all. It just keeps you from going to the custom labor prison. I don't see changes to that in any change-log? Or should I be downloading POP to disable DCL prison?

From what I gathered from comments further back in this thread, it is intentionally supposed to be "always-on". Meant to be a "core feature" of the mod.

[Kimy]

25 minutes ago, kiesu said:

Hey, possibly a bug with the Working Girl scenario. Works perfectly fine otherwise, except when asked to get "tied up tight" from innkeep, any sex scenes after that stop happening trough DCL. The dialog works, customer might even invite a friend that spawns on you, but sex scene never runs. You still get a reward for the supposed sex that was supposed to happen if you talk to the customer again though.

Forced a sex trigger via another mod while in this state and other mods were still able to run scenes, DCL just stops running them for whatever reason. If the innkeep put restraints on me by herself, scenes ran fine. Just not if I asked to get tied.

Have me a log?

[Kimy]

6 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I can think of a character who could act as a money lender within DCL, if you've done enough quests to impress her, and if you don't pay her back, it could be very bad a lot of fun.

 

I've often wished there was a kinky money lender, and a little DF awareness would go a long way too.

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

[Psalam]

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1 minute ago, Kimy said:

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

 

If I don't cheat (console player.additem f xxxx), I often run short of cash early in the game (up to about level 20). After that, money is no object.

[Laura]

9 minutes ago, Kimy said:

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

Not for me, I think that earning gold in Skyrim is too easy.

Unless you use mods to balance the economy, I don't think that money is ever an issue.

[Grey Cloud]

9 minutes ago, Kimy said:

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

In the normal course of things money shouldn't be problem but some players like to handicap things so, e.g. merchants have little of no money etc.

[Ursur1major]

21 minutes ago, Kimy said:

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

With my jacked up buying prices, decreased loot drops and generally large amount of mods that remove money and items while having Devious Followers running ontop of that I tend to have trouble being properly gold independent untill level 20, but at that point the dam breaks and I become the richest person in skyrim in just a few dungeons.

 

But that's with mods like Scarcity, loot and degradation as well as others active, base game doesn't really have nearly enough money sinks, especially at higher levels when you just make everything yourself.

I'd argue the best implementation of a devious loanshark would be in a seperate mod with lots of new moneysinks, like tolls for roads and bridges, maybe a few taxes, monarchs back in the day taxed the most outrageous things so there's historical precedent, maybe someone really likes rubber outfits in one of the holds and place a special tax on people not wearing rubber?

[PenBoozerX]

1 hour ago, RegisteredUser said:

From what I gathered from comments further back in this thread, it is intentionally supposed to be "always-on". Meant to be a "core feature" of the mod.

Oh, maybe I've been silly. I always figured the trap system was the main function since it's at the top of the MC menu and crime is at the bottom... lol.

 

49 minutes ago, Kimy said:

Have me a log?

Yes. Also It seems I was a bit hasty with the assumption of where the odd behavior came from. It's just extra restraining devices in general that innkeep put on you that make sex stop working (just for DCL though), like Yoke and Armbinder. Just chains don't seem to affect it. And before you ask no I don't have DD or zaz animation filters for devices on, other mods dont have issues playing animations with those restraints just this one DCL scenario.

Papyrus.0.log

[Zaflis]

2 mod recommendations:

 

1) With the inn work now being a thing, the bards will slowly drive you insane. There's a mod that makes them just play the instruments but no singing (not even the texts, it does not alter the voice files themselves).

Bard Instrumentals Only - Sing Upon Request: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58555/?tab=description

 

2) If you want a more "poor" experience for Skyrim or if you play with Devious Followers, this mod lets you adjust sell prices. Additionally you may want to disable "Nice rewards" from cursed loot's MCM. It also makes it feel more survival style if you have Realistic Needs and Diseases or alike. And i really like it being a solution for devious devices having rediculously high sell prices normally and at the same time also squishes the high valued dungeon loots.

Trade and Barter: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34612?tab=description

[Kimy]

1 hour ago, kiesu said:

Oh, maybe I've been silly. I always figured the trap system was the main function since it's at the top of the MC menu and crime is at the bottom... lol.

 

Yes. Also It seems I was a bit hasty with the assumption of where the odd behavior came from. It's just extra restraining devices in general that innkeep put on you that make sex stop working (just for DCL though), like Yoke and Armbinder. Just chains don't seem to affect it. And before you ask no I don't have DD or zaz animation filters for devices on, other mods dont have issues playing animations with those restraints just this one DCL scenario.

Papyrus.0.log 1.02 MB · 1 download

According to that log, DD couldn't find any valid bound animations to play a SexLab scene with. There are a few possible reasons for that, which I am going to explore.

[Darkwing241]

7 hours ago, Kimy said:

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

Devious Followers is one of the best DD mods out there right now. It basically add's a high daily gold cost to a follower and then the follower offers you kinky deals to "help" you pay.

[gr4ssi]

Dear Kimy et. al.

I just installed DCL latest and tried the new Dagonar prison. Pretty awesome, I must say, but the cooking quest in Dagonar Prison doesn't seem to work out for me. I collected all the ingredients(spoon, bread, water, etc.), and now am supposed to cook and eat. However, I press "E" at the cooking station and absolutely nothing happens. Which make me stuck in prison... 8-|

Any advice for my distressful stuckness? Can I advance the quest manually? (Sorry, I'm pretty much a total noob.) I would be really happy if anyone could give me some advice.

[r5e4w3q2]

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- Changed/Fixed: Added updated Bodyslide slider group file for CBBE.

With the new group I seem to have lost the ability to chose a preset, the Preset pulldown list in Bodyslide is empty for the items in the Cursed Loot group.

Deleting the group so the items end up back in the Unassigned section allowed me to once again choose which preset to use.

[SkyAddiction]

13 hours ago, Kimy said:

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

 

There are at least a handful of us who do our best to squash the rocket-fuel economy of the base game, and a fewer number of us still who then take the further step of forcing character advancement through training as opposed to skill use. It's probably a small minority either way as it can actually make the early game difficult and the consequences for combat failure catastrophic.

 

Having said that, if you were to put something like it in the mod, people would probably engage with it anyway just to make use of the content. It is a bondage mod after all...

[Lupine00]

17 hours ago, Kimy said:

Silly question, but does anyone ever need to borrow money in this game? From what I've heard, gold isn't exactly scarce for most players.

What?!? What?!?

 

Not in a vanilla game maybe. But there are a lot of mods to fix that problem, a lot of choices.

 

I rarely have any money in Skyrim. If the follower didn't get it, the post-rape thieves, or the guards did (crime bounties).

And I don't get much to start with, because vendors cheat me.

Plus houses cost more, carriages cost more, room rental costs more (more even than default DF), food costs more.

Plus additional expenses, such as soap, gate tolls, device removal, ingredients to recover from sexual wear and tear, and so on.

I can't loot a lot because my carry capacity is bad, and gold is heavy.

I can't make money through crafts, or make everything myself, because FMEA makes learning those skills expensive and dangerous.

 

For me, the only way to buy a house before about level 40 is to borrow money.

And to get to level 40, I have to spend money on training.

However, I don't use a full paid-training only model (I use a hybrid), it's a major part of my advancement.

 

I don't have a gold rush around level 40, because I tune my follower accordingly, and training expenses also get extreme later on.

Plus, did I mention I can't loot much and vendors give me bad prices?

I also like to start with no skills, spells or gear.

With no house, I don't have a reserve of spare gear to fall back on when I get robbed.

 

 

But look at it another way... Why would anyone use solicitation if they had money to spare?

 

For me, the main reason to use solicitation is to raise money to pay an inn fee, so a follower can sleep - to fix the follower's bad mood.

Not that the PC doesn't need sleep too, but a cranky follower steals a lot of money off you by "miscounting".

 

 

It's probably true that players would use a devious loan shark just for the peril of it, especially if there was even a tiny bit of quest content hidden behind it.

It's like asking how often players go to prison. Vanilla prison ... not much ... but Dragonar, PoP and Devious Cidhna, of course they go.

[Zaflis]

9 hours ago, gr4ssi said:

... but the cooking quest in Dagonar Prison doesn't seem to work out for me. I collected all the ingredients(spoon, bread, water, etc.), and now am supposed to cook and eat. However, I press "E" at the cooking station and absolutely nothing happens. Which make me stuck in prison... 8-| ...

After you collected all stuff, you need to talk to the guard nearest to kitchen. The journal should tell what step you are on or if you really collected all that you needed. If you have a gag in your mouth then it means you didn't talk yet. It will open a regular cooking recipe list when working right.

[thedarkone1234]

Found a bug: the Hired Muscle missions (of the companions) chose Penelope as the Whiterun Target. The marker was quite far, which I found a bit odd, but I went there only to see that the marker is stuck on some random door (I mean, it tells me to go through the door on either side). Only when I used the console to bring her up I realized she is a DCL character, related to a dollmaker mission that I never played yet. I think it is unintended for such characters to be possible for this kind of mission...

[johntrine]

can someone tell me if there is anyway to change all settings in dcl to default? i may have messed up with settings too much and now instead of events taking place, i keep getting keys and charms

[thedarkone1234]

1 hour ago, johntrine said:

can someone tell me if there is anyway to change all settings in dcl to default? i may have messed up with settings too much and now instead of events taking place, i keep getting keys and charms

I don't recall there is such a button, but if you hover at any slider / checkbox to see the description, it should include what was the default, so it is easy to set it to default manually.

[johntrine]

there isnt? @Kimy any chance there could be a default setting option in debug for v8.4?