Submit + Devious Devices Progression DAYMOYL Mod

[Conventional3]

Hey, just wanted to thank you for the mod, and post about a possible problem of course. In the latest version I don't seem to be getting any short stories when bound. Otherwise it works normaly - I still get the animation and everything, just not the story window. Shame, because I liked those. It could be a conflict with something, but it works with the latest beta, and I don't know what changed since. I'm afraid I'm kind of new to Skyrim.

 

Other than that I do have a couple of suggestions - first, in repeated assaults attackers should be able to temporarily strip some restrictive items (belts or at least gags) that they have put on - otherwise they just restrict themselves on the type of sex they can have once the victim has those. Also, threesome support would be nice (like I've seen in the Defeat mod), though that is probably more an issue with the Submit mod.

 

Anyway, nice work.

[Guest]

Auto submit is working better than ever!

 

However, there are some regressions from previous versions.

 

* Manual submitting is not working. Doesn't seem to recognize the submit key press. (Tried it in my old saves and a completely new game with live another life mod).

 

* Setting steal player gears to "off" strips the devious devices like the older versions of the mod. This also happens when you lose to beasts such as bears and wolfs even when steal player's gear is set to "on".

 

That's strange, manual submit is working for me and I haven't touched any code that relates to that part of the mod. I also use Live Another Life so I don't think that will be causing an issue. I'll have a check through...maybe I disabled something by accident.

 

The stealing player gear will be fixed again in the next version....I just had to roll back to where I knew everything was working.

 

Hey, just wanted to thank you for the mod, and post about a possible problem of course. In the latest version I don't seem to be getting any short stories when bound. Otherwise it works normaly - I still get the animation and everything, just not the story window. Shame, because I liked those. It could be a conflict with something, but it works with the latest beta, and I don't know what changed since. I'm afraid I'm kind of new to Skyrim.

 

Other than that I do have a couple of suggestions - first, in repeated assaults attackers should be able to temporarily strip some restrictive items (belts or at least gags) that they have put on - otherwise they just restrict themselves on the type of sex they can have once the victim has those. Also, threesome support would be nice (like I've seen in the Defeat mod), though that is probably more an issue with the Submit mod.

 

Anyway, nice work.

 

I removed the stories temporarily just to make sure the pop up windows were not causing any issues. I was having a problem where the 3rd part of the story wouldn't display and looked like it was preventing submit from detecting your escape. They'll be making a return again soon, but I may have to think of a better way of doing them rather than the alert windows.

 

I'd love to get threesomes working...this almost made me want to jump ship to defeat At the moment it is probably outside of my ability to implement but you never know...

[Guest]

I can confirm that manual submit isn't working for me either, everything besides this is working flawlessly.

[Karin]

 

Awesome job,its look its working perfecly now,bandit rape my char and then tied,and becouse i spawn them with console they stay on place and do second round becouse they saw my escape try.

 

Kinda sad its only working on new game I got propably "evil gleam" bug how you call it on main save >.< Skyrim hate me lol

 

You can try removing submit + pb then loading your saved game, save it then reinstall submit + pb which should clear out any stuck variables the first time you submit.

 

 

 

Ty, its worked for me,i read before your highter answer and understand bad and only make clear save w/o pb. But clear save w/o submit and pb worked like miracle

[eric_starbuck]

This mod is great! a good idea to include the progression and also for the random pose after rape scene.

[Pinute]

Submit is working much better, thank you, and having the additional 'equipment' added is a great addition. A couple of things, though:

 

Submit had a bug for a while where, instead of the the current opponents having their fun the opponents from a previous lost fight would warp in and do their thing. I'm not sure if it was ever fixed because I stopped using most sexlab mods while building up a new base game. Anyway, that happened to me in Cragwallow Cave - a dead! (I'd killed him to get my gear back) invisible bandit lieutenant from OBIS and a Wandering Knight (I think from Populated Roads) were the culprits. When they were done the WK exited the cave, and the conjurors were all non-combative. Attacking them made them fight again, of course. I was never able to auto-submit to those conjurors - I'd collapse to the ground, 'attempt to surrender', and a few seconds later I'd be able to jump up and the conjurors were again attacking me.

 

When I finally(!) was able to kill them all I left the cave and headed for Shors Stone. All along the road the auto and manual submit worked perfectly, both with humanoids and animals.

 

I'm glad to hear you're working on the stealing gear issue. One of my favorite parts of submit was the steal all player's gear option. I mean, what bandit isn't gonna strip you clean, but without a key how can they take your restraints? I've read enough to know it's not a simple thing, sorting through what gear to take and what not but I hope you'll lick it.

 

Again, thanks much for your work on this and I'm looking forward to your updates.

[permidion]

mmm, I installed V1.53, and now I get the "you are still in combat" + bleedout + death problem when getting hit hard and the autosubmit is triggered.

 

wasnt the 1.53 version, which override Submit's files, supposed to prevent or solve that?

[Guest]

I can confirm that manual submit isn't working for me either, everything besides this is working flawlessly.

 

Hmm....no idea why that would be. I just tested it and works fine here.

 

Submit is working much better, thank you, and having the additional 'equipment' added is a great addition. A couple of things, though:

 

Submit had a bug for a while where, instead of the the current opponents having their fun the opponents from a previous lost fight would warp in and do their thing. I'm not sure if it was ever fixed because I stopped using most sexlab mods while building up a new base game. Anyway, that happened to me in Cragwallow Cave - a dead! (I'd killed him to get my gear back) invisible bandit lieutenant from OBIS and a Wandering Knight (I think from Populated Roads) were the culprits. When they were done the WK exited the cave, and the conjurors were all non-combative. Attacking them made them fight again, of course. I was never able to auto-submit to those conjurors - I'd collapse to the ground, 'attempt to surrender', and a few seconds later I'd be able to jump up and the conjurors were again attacking me.

 

When I finally(!) was able to kill them all I left the cave and headed for Shors Stone. All along the road the auto and manual submit worked perfectly, both with humanoids and animals.

 

I'm glad to hear you're working on the stealing gear issue. One of my favorite parts of submit was the steal all player's gear option. I mean, what bandit isn't gonna strip you clean, but without a key how can they take your restraints? I've read enough to know it's not a simple thing, sorting through what gear to take and what not but I hope you'll lick it.

 

Again, thanks much for your work on this and I'm looking forward to your updates.

 

The dead attackers bug was from submit not clearing it's attackers list if the "evil gleam" message triggered. This is now formally know as the Evil Gleam bug and I think I've fixed it

 

The stripping of items is also fixed in the version I'm just about to upload. It will now follow the SexLab stripping options so as long as you have those set correctly they won't remove any locked items

 

mmm, I installed V1.53, and now I get the "you are still in combat" + bleedout + death problem when getting hit hard and the autosubmit is triggered.

 

wasnt the 1.53 version, which override Submit's files, supposed to prevent or solve that?

 

Did you try a fresh game after installing? The error I fixed was the "Your wounds are mortal" bug. If it isn't working for you then I'm out of ideas at the moment

[KestrelSky]

I've been having a problem where attackers attack again right away, instead of allowing even a few seconds to run away. Has anyone had this problem before, is there a way to fix it?

[permidion]

Did you try a fresh game after installing? The error I fixed was the "Your wounds are mortal" bug. If it isn't working for you then I'm out of ideas at the moment

ah no, I didnt have that message, so I guess the problem I had was the "normal" "you are still in combat" bug, which is unrelated to your fix,

sorry, I should have paid better attention.

[Guest]

@KestrelSky

Have you tried turning Allow Random Assaults OFF? This usually sorts any problems with attackers attacking as soon as you fail an escape roll. If they are attacking as soon as you escape then I'm not sure...they usually give you a bit of a head start but I know Deviously Helpless can kick in sometimes if you have that installed.

 

Quick update to reinstate the short stories, fix the stripping of items if Steal Player Gear is OFF and reinstate the random amount of gold being spent before killing your attacker.

[Guest]

@permidion

 

Shame....I was rather hoping that problem had also been fixed as I'm fairly sure the code doesn't do much when you get the "your still in combat" message. It is more related to trying to force your opponent to submit while still fighting other people.

[WraithSlayer]

The modified version of Submit, as well as PB 1.53a, have a Data/meta.ini that conflicts with a LADL file of the same name & location. I assume this meta.ini file wasn't intended to be included? ( it even has a directory from your PC on it ) Then again, the LADL meta.ini doesn't seem like it was supposed to be there, either...

[kirakun]

the installation seem got problem, please check....unable to install like previously using MO

[Mr_G]

I'm getting the previous assualter warping to my location (even if the assualter was killed) and forcing my character to subit. Afterwards, my character is not bound and no devices are installed. This is on progression mode with 1.53a

[PhantomPanic]

With 1.53a, the issue with crashing before it reaches the main menu has returned for me. ;~;

[WraithSlayer]

Did a bit of testing on 1.53a. Like Jim, I'm not getting the manual submit bug that some people have reported here. I can only assume it relates to using a version of Submit other than the modded 04JAN14 that Jim provided, can't really imagine anything else that could be breaking it.

 

I did find a few things though:

 

• (probably intentional?) Short stories aren't showing the final dialog, (part 3 for normal, or part 2 when wearing plugs) as the messages are commented out in the code.
• Bound animations will often stop a few seconds after starting, allowing the player to move around freely even though Submit still considers the player to be bound. (I get the x% messages when I press the submit key, like I would if trying to escape bounds) I did a lot of testing to try and pinpoint the source of the issue, but I couldn't find any correlation to anything except the animations themselves: the one where I'm lying on my stomach and with hands and feet tied together, seems to cause the bug every time, whereas the one with the cross never does. I thought this might be due to the Zaz animation pack, but I can reproduce it with either 5.4 or 5.51.
• Enemies will sometimes go for a second round immediately after the first, causing the short story dialog to show while a sexlab scene is in progress. Not Submit or PB's fault, bug was actually from Sexlab Dangerously Nude, as it can trigger a sex event during the short time the player has control, before the bound animation starts.
• The opening post in this thread has recently been turned into a giant wall of text.

 

Other than that, feels like a massive improvement in reliability over the previous Submit I had running ,amazing job!

[eric_starbuck]

I had a few bugs here too.

 

1. same as above: free to move but displaying messages of % of success to get free.

2. Being able to remove all gear but arm cuffs and blindfold still displayed on character (with blindfold effect active).

3. in a cave of spiders i tried to surrender or use auto surrender and it always get wrong. or I die, or the game CDT after first sex animation... the unusual and very strange thing here is that beyond the CDT, the computer displays briefly an error message then turns off. it never happened with skyrim before.

[Guest]

One thing that may be causing problems is if you still have the sexlab submit.bsa file in you skyrim/data folder. This needs to be deleted

 

 

 

Other than that seems like a bit of a mixed bag.

 

I'm getting the previous assualter warping to my location (even if the assualter was killed) and forcing my character to subit. Afterwards, my character is not bound and no devices are installed. This is on progression mode with 1.53a

It shouldn't do that any more as the assault list is cleared out each time you submit. Have a look in your skyrim/data folder to see if sexlab submit.bsa is still there. That needs to be deleted. Also, make sure you are starting a fresh game or a clean save that has no reference to previous versions of submit as sometimes code can get locked in to your save files.

 

With 1.53a, the issue with crashing before it reaches the main menu has returned for me. ;~;

Ah, have you got the Devious Devices Expansion installed? http://www.loverslab.com/files/download/371-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-03272014/

I think there might be some code I added as I'm getting ready to add the slaveboots to the progression list. It's the only thing I can think of that would cause a crash when loading and definitely wasn't there in the last release

 

the installation seem got problem, please check....unable to install like previously using MO

 

The installer is only made for Nexus Mod Manager

 

 

[Guest]

Ok, here's a full rundown of how to install this mod and a list of dependencies as the OP page has become a little out of date...

 

Required Mods
SexLab

ZazanimationPack
SexLab Aroused
Devious Devices - Assets

Devious Devices - Integration

Devious Devices - Expansion

 

Installation

If you already have, or have ever had, SexLab Submit installed and/or SexLab Submit - Devious Devices (with or without Progressive Bondage) then...

 

1. Uninstall both mods

2. Make sure SexLab Submit.esp, SexLab Submit.bsa AND Submit Belt.esp are all deleted from your skyrim/data folder.

3. Make sure SexLab Submit.esp, SexLab Submit.bsa AND Submit Belt.esp are all deleted from your skyrim/data folder, it is really important!!

 

You are now ready to install the new version of Sexlab Submit Progressive Bondage.

4. Install version 1.53a (or whatever the latest version is) You DO NOT need to install SexLab Submit first. This version and all future versions will contain all required files packed loose (i.e. no .bsa which is why it is so important that the SexLab Submit.bsa is deleted from your skyrim/data folder)

5. Start a new game and everything should be fine. You can try using a saved game as long as you try and clean it first (do points 1,2 & 3 above, load game, save game, do point 4, load game...fingers crossed!) but it may not work.

 

Known conflicting mods include Dangerously Nude, Deviously Helpless as they can trigger attacks due to being naked, or wearing certain Devious Devices. Most of the time they play nice but odd things can sometimes happen where you won't be bound or devious items won't be added etc. Just go with it...sometimes bandits just aren't into bondage

[WraithSlayer]

4. Install version 1.53a (or whatever the latest version is) You DO NOT need to install SexLab Submit first. This version and all future versions will contain all required files packed loose (i.e. no .bsa which is why it is so important that the SexLab Submit.bsa is deleted from your skyrim/data folder)

 

I might have done something wrong, then. When installing 1.53a through NMM, I get the following:

 

Installing your modded Submit first fixes the issue, so I had assumed it was required. Maybe PB 1.53a still has Submit listed as a dependency?

[LHM]

If I try to escape using the Submit Key, it makes me submit again sometimes... Is it supposed to be like that?

 

Thanks.

[WraithSlayer]

If I try to escape using the Submit Key, it makes me submit again sometimes... Is it supposed to be like that?

 

Thanks.

 

If you have "Can be randomly assaulted while bound" enabled, and you fail an escape check by more than 25%, nearby enemies will have another go.

[LHM]

 

If I try to escape using the Submit Key, it makes me submit again sometimes... Is it supposed to be like that?

 

Thanks.

 

If you have "Can be randomly assaulted while bound" enabled, and you fail an escape check by more than 25%, nearby enemies will have another go.

 

Oh, I understand... I had a CTD after being bound for the third time.

 

But thanks a lot!

[WraithSlayer]

 

1. same as above: free to move but displaying messages of % of success to get free.

 

Try moving Submit around in the load order, putting it at the end fixed the breaking bound animations for me. (I suspect it was due to Prison Overhaul's latest version)