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I really havnt used the hdt vagina, but if its like the other hdt (which it definitely should be)  then it looks like your string data is right. Don't forget you have to have the right skeleton and the right hdt file

 

 

Here's what I've tried to fix it so far:

Starting over, I installed the latest XP32 skeleton (2.33) in MO. Then I installed 'HDT All In One 14.28 version - XPMS 2.14 (Edit by Daie)' in MO. Then I copypasta'd the contents from 'Trepleen HDT CBBE body + Vagina1.2 + XPMSE v2.33 Collision XML.rar' over the HDT All In One folder in my MO mods, replacing all files. Then I run FNIS. Next, instead of making my own body with bodyslide, I just used the defaults from the rar this time and actually put them in my Skyrim Data folder. Then I started a new game and equipped my character with the Havok Object. (I can see it equipped in my inventory). Yet, no dice.

 

I've also tried actually putting the hdtVagina.xml and other files in my actual Skyrim folder, but that doesn't seem to help either. I've run FNIS a dozen times, too.

 

No doubt I'm missing something obvious...

Posted

 

I really havnt used the hdt vagina, but if its like the other hdt (which it definitely should be)  then it looks like your string data is right. Don't forget you have to have the right skeleton and the right hdt file

 

 

Here's what I've tried to fix it so far:

Starting over, I installed the latest XP32 skeleton (2.33) in MO. Then I installed 'HDT All In One 14.28 version - XPMS 2.14 (Edit by Daie)' in MO. Then I copypasta'd the contents from 'Trepleen HDT CBBE body + Vagina1.2 + XPMSE v2.33 Collision XML.rar' over the HDT All In One folder in my MO mods, replacing all files. Then I run FNIS. Next, instead of making my own body with bodyslide, I just used the defaults from the rar this time and actually put them in my Skyrim Data folder. Then I started a new game and equipped my character with the Havok Object. (I can see it equipped in my inventory). Yet, no dice.

 

I've also tried actually putting the hdtVagina.xml and other files in my actual Skyrim folder, but that doesn't seem to help either. I've run FNIS a dozen times, too.

 

No doubt I'm missing something obvious...

 

 

I don't see this in your list.

 

 

-Add "NiStringExtraData" modification to female_0 and female_1 meshes, how to: 

To elaborate, you'll need to open femalebody_0 and femalebody_1.nif in nifskope, right click the body, select block > insert > Nis... > NiStringExtraData. Note that it is not NiStringsExtraData.

Right click NiStringExtraData on the block list, copy branch, right click on NiNode on select paste branch. Delete the original NiStringExtraData by right clicking > block > remove branch. Click on the new NiStringExtraData and use ctrl + up to shift it to the first line right after 0 NiNode.

Go to block details after clicking on NiStringExtraData and click on the txt icon of Name. Type in HDT Havok Path.

Now go to block details line 4, String Data and click the txt icon. Enter the path where you installed my .xml (Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml)

Click Save As... in nifskope and replace the original femalebody nif file.

(Tutorial with images: http://www.loverslab...-body/?p=566933)

 

Posted

I stumbled over the nifskope editing part too. Isn't that possible to integrate into the shapedata bodies in BS2?

Posted

You don't have to add the NiStringExtraData, if you are using the standard body that is provided with the Trepleen package.

 

Would be a bit... weird because this is about Bodyslide. Might as well use UN7B if you want hand-me-down bodies ;)

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If you do use the standard body within the Trepleen package sure you dont have to add the "NiStringExtraData" however if you use the bodyslide to generate a body to your liking you have to add the "NiStringExtraData" in the femalebody_0 and femalebody_1

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I really havnt used the hdt vagina, but if its like the other hdt (which it definitely should be)  then it looks like your string data is right. Don't forget you have to have the right skeleton and the right hdt file

 

 

Here's what I've tried to fix it so far:

Starting over, I installed the latest XP32 skeleton (2.33) in MO. Then I installed 'HDT All In One 14.28 version - XPMS 2.14 (Edit by Daie)' in MO. Then I copypasta'd the contents from 'Trepleen HDT CBBE body + Vagina1.2 + XPMSE v2.33 Collision XML.rar' over the HDT All In One folder in my MO mods, replacing all files. Then I run FNIS. Next, instead of making my own body with bodyslide, I just used the defaults from the rar this time and actually put them in my Skyrim Data folder. Then I started a new game and equipped my character with the Havok Object. (I can see it equipped in my inventory). Yet, no dice.

 

I've also tried actually putting the hdtVagina.xml and other files in my actual Skyrim folder, but that doesn't seem to help either. I've run FNIS a dozen times, too.

 

No doubt I'm missing something obvious...

 

 

I don't see this in your list.

 

 

-Add "NiStringExtraData" modification to female_0 and female_1 meshes, how to: 

To elaborate, you'll need to open femalebody_0 and femalebody_1.nif in nifskope, right click the body, select block > insert > Nis... > NiStringExtraData. Note that it is not NiStringsExtraData.

Right click NiStringExtraData on the block list, copy branch, right click on NiNode on select paste branch. Delete the original NiStringExtraData by right clicking > block > remove branch. Click on the new NiStringExtraData and use ctrl + up to shift it to the first line right after 0 NiNode.

Go to block details after clicking on NiStringExtraData and click on the txt icon of Name. Type in HDT Havok Path.

Now go to block details line 4, String Data and click the txt icon. Enter the path where you installed my .xml (Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml)

Click Save As... in nifskope and replace the original femalebody nif file.

(Tutorial with images: http://www.loverslab...-body/?p=566933)

 

 

SKSE latest version? Fnis, racemenu...

 

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Now that I've finally gotten this working I'm experiencing new issues. The left labia seems to react violently no matter what position I try. The right side look perfect and opens gently but not the left. Also the HDT collision has the belly stretching way out when my character gets near his wife's tummy. I'm only using the HDT files from this package. Is there something extra I need to tweak to make the left labia behave identical to the right? Also is there something I need to do to make the bellies reaction to collision less exaggerated?

 

Thank you for any help.

 

HDT Log if it is needed

 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: Queue OK

[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: System run with 8 threads

[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[01/05/15 14:33:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtm.xml

[01/05/15 14:33:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : skse\plugins\hdtm.xml

[01/05/15 14:33:34]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:33:34]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:33:34]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:35:20]INFO: Cell changed...

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[01/05/15 14:35:21]INFO: Cell changed...

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[01/05/15 14:36:29]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:36:30]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml

[01/05/15 14:36:30]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[01/05/15 14:36:51]INFO: Cell changed...

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[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:38:06]INFO: Cell changed...

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[01/05/15 14:38:06]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:38:06]INFO: Add character 00000014

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[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Cell changed...

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[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:40:20]INFO: Physics system loaded : skse\plugins\hdtm.xml

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 00000014

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[01/05/15 14:47:42]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:47:42]INFO: Add character 00000014

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[01/05/15 14:47:55]INFO: Add character 0005b688

[01/05/15 14:47:55]INFO: Add character 00000014

[01/05/15 14:48:26]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml

[01/05/15 14:48:26]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

 

 

 

Play with SOS positions (in/out, up/down...)

 

 

Posted

 

I really havnt used the hdt vagina, but if its like the other hdt (which it definitely should be)  then it looks like your string data is right. Don't forget you have to have the right skeleton and the right hdt file

 

 

Here's what I've tried to fix it so far:

Starting over, I installed the latest XP32 skeleton (2.33) in MO. Then I installed 'HDT All In One 14.28 version - XPMS 2.14 (Edit by Daie)' in MO. Then I copypasta'd the contents from 'Trepleen HDT CBBE body + Vagina1.2 + XPMSE v2.33 Collision XML.rar' over the HDT All In One folder in my MO mods, replacing all files. Then I run FNIS. Next, instead of making my own body with bodyslide, I just used the defaults from the rar this time and actually put them in my Skyrim Data folder. Then I started a new game and equipped my character with the Havok Object. (I can see it equipped in my inventory). Yet, no dice.

 

I've also tried actually putting the hdtVagina.xml and other files in my actual Skyrim folder, but that doesn't seem to help either. I've run FNIS a dozen times, too.

 

No doubt I'm missing something obvious...

 

 

I don't think FNIS will do anything since you aren't adding an animation, are you seeing your characters chest (and butt perhaps) jiggle when you walk? If you crouch they should look more like they hang down instead just bounding up and down for a sec like with t/bbp. If you aren't seeing anything like that then I have to assume your body type is not t/bbp enabled. Most SevenBase types are at least bbp, UNP has a t/bbp body type on the nexus as does Dream Girl, I'm less sure about CBBE though, but I'm pretty positive it does. Also make sure to take the malehands.nif (if it is in this download) and overwriting Schlongs of Skyrim's male hands with those, MO may be reading hands that don't have a link for hdt.

 

Posted

Hi all,

 

I tested the mod yesterday,with the proper xpms skelly, with the old one, with custom hdt, with new hdt, with the hdt which is provided.

The vagina is working at it's best with the provided/recommended stuff.

I started a perfectly clear profile in MO, and I have checked Skyrim directory too for rouge files, so I can say I had a clean install on a clean game.

 

My observations:

 

A wet texture would be awesome, or even a color slider in racemenu/with wet or dry type.

 

The vagina opens a bit too wide and form a huge hole, which is a bit unrealistic, the schlongs are not capable to fill the hole, unless you play with monster cocks.

 

The HDT movement is too jittery, this is what I never could understand with HDT, some mods perfect(like HDT hair or HDT cape) some is just shaking and distorting all the time(HDT dragon tails, and this mod)

If the problem is with me I would be happy if somebody would enlighten me what is wrong, but some mods are working some are not, that must not be my settings then.

By the way as I stated earlier I am using the provided resources on a clean install and the vag is still shaking.

 

So a bit more smooth movement would be cool.

 

Also it is not always react to penetration (for example dog)

 

Apart from this it is a great achievement I just erased my long time used old body, just for this.

I really hope the mod will be supported and finetuned in the future.

 

Thank you.

 

Ps: If the problems are on my end, then excuse me and I appreciate any help with my setup.

Posted

About the belly i think its because you used HDT Havok Object, I had a similar problem so when i unequipped it was fixed. A bit wierd :o

Posted

Ok installed as instructed. Having a couple of problems. The belly of my follower is going up and out at a weird angle. Also the HDT vagina during sexlab is a complete mess.

 

Me and my follower both have havok item equipped. XP skele version 2.33.

SoS Light.

Followed the guide at the top of the op added the Nistringextradata to both femalebody meshes.

 

http://i.imgur.com/nEPUn47.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/76AFiuk.jpg

 

I see the issue. I gave my orc wife the HDT havok object and her belly was going all stretchy. Then I took it away from her and everything was back to normal.

Posted

04/01/15 UPDATE:

Fixed inward belly, improved belly collisions with SOS.

With some poses I have a Strange Deformation of HDT bodymeshes on the Butt area (here the naked pose screens) post-204983-0-91220100-1420565932_thumb.jpg post-204983-0-14496500-1420565982_thumb.jpg post-204983-0-10912900-1420566005_thumb.jpg

 

 

I use your "HDT All In One 14.28 version - XPMS 2.14 (Edit by Daie)" my body mashes is UNP Unified v1.09 "HDT UNP body with Topmodel body shape preset" http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1454-project-unified-unp/ and XPMSE v2.33 with ECE optional sliders

 

 

You can fix this, please..? because for the rest, your "HDT All In One XPMSE 2.14" it works Well on UNP Unified body.

Posted

 

04/01/15 UPDATE:

Fixed inward belly, improved belly collisions with SOS.

With some poses I have a Strange Deformation of HDT bodymeshes on the Butt area (here the naked pose screens) attachicon.gifDeformButt1.JPG attachicon.gifDeformButt2.JPG attachicon.gifDeformButt3.jpg

 

 

I use your "HDT All In One 14.28 version - XPMS 2.14 (Edit by Daie)" my body mashes is UNP Unified v1.09 "HDT UNP body with Topmodel body shape preset" http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1454-project-unified-unp/ and XPMSE v2.33 with ECE optional sliders

 

 

You can fix this, please..? because for the rest, your "HDT All In One XPMSE 2.14" it works Well on UNP Unified body.

 

 

I've had the most luck with XP32 Maximum Skeleton Legacy Version, choose all the stuff you want and at the end chose the HDT option

 

Posted

With some fiddling around, I managed to get it working. I think I kept copying from an incomplete extract of the Trepleen rar. Don't know how I managed that... :(

 

However, I'm noticing some strange behavior:

 

 

post-300848-0-32970800-1420585652_thumb.jpg

Screwed up belly!

 

post-300848-0-60485000-1420585654_thumb.jpg

From the comments in this thread, I gathered that it should look a lot less messy then this.

Or was I expecting too much? :)

 

 

 

Posted

ye it's opening too wide

need to work on reduce it's hdt sensitivities greatly

 

I've also tried to darker textures, but it's still look too reddish

but anyway it's great begining for an awesome features to skyrim...

Posted

While I was messing around with it, I was getting the belly dancing around all over the damn place at times. The odd fix was unequipping the Havok item (from the follower, but I also unequipped mine). After doing that things were working nicely, even the vagina was colliding better and distorting less. Less over the top boob bounce, but very nice nonetheless.

Posted

Took a crack at trying to rig this up to work on a 7Base model since I really didn't want to change literally everything over to CBBE. Figuring it would be simple, it turned out to be a bit more than what I'm able to do alone. 

 

That being said, I left the concept to my betters and went to go just set it up to have the Breast and Butt physics and the belly collision. Breast are working fine, but can't seem to get the butt to bounce and the belly isn't responding for whatever reason. Figure I'd ask for some outside help at this point haha. Can't tell if I did something wrong somewhere when setting this up. 

 

I'll attach my hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml and that attempt at the 7Base adjustment here, for the sake of "showing your work even if its wrong for credit". I'm pretty certain everything is there that needs to be in there. I've only touched the numbers for the friction and restitution with JFF. The body mesh itself I stopped messing with and wouldn't consider this one exactly "playable".

 

HDT meshing attempt.rar

 

EDIT: Yea, really need to use forums more often. I'm rusty as shit when it comes to posting haha. 

Posted

Please use

[code] [/code]

Tags for XML and stuff. Or attach the file.

 

realized my mistake haha. just fixed it.

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