Guest Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 How come the vagina disapears into the body after I make the edit in Nifskope? It works, but parts of it are also not visible if I just stand there. Where as before the edit the vagina mesh was completely visible. And in my opinion it streches far too wide, like the characters giving birth. 02/01/15 UPDATE: Changed the values for initial position in constrains to compensate the inward vagina problem. Inward vagina problem is just hilarious to read haha. can't help but laugh. Vagina confirmed for vacuum.
guk Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Just like in real life, nothing but trouble with those vaginas >.< Hope you can get this to work with 2.33 soon
Groovtama Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Belly was never in the skeleton rig map. BBP is simply buggy crap now it's just there for ZaZ Animations for the Milk Machine if people really can live with the bugs and not for "Let's use TBBP and HDT together because I want everything" Thanks for clarifying this to me, I missed that belly is still inward a little, I assume this issue directly connected with hdt*.xml attached to the body Problem Section If you have problems read this first, written by Skulltyrant <--General Problems like installing last and so. 1. HOW 2 FIX IRREGULAR LOOKING BREASTS AFTER UPDATING TO 2.0+: <- Breast problems because of TBBP 3. HOW 2 FIX INWARD BELLY AFTER UPDATING TO 2.0+: <- Belly problem with old xml to the new Belly system The other stuff is a little bit outdated, I overwork the other points again but these tell you what to do with shaby breasts or bellies.
Daiemonic Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 Just like in real life, nothing but trouble with those vaginas >.< Hope you can get this to work with 2.33 soon You are a bit late.
Daiemonic Posted January 3, 2015 Author Posted January 3, 2015 Hey there, everything looks like it's working okay but the belly collision seems to have disappeared, all other collisions look like they are correct. Was this intentional? Yep, I will take a look on it.
ratbag Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Hey there, everything looks like it's working okay but the belly collision seems to have disappeared, all other collisions look like they are correct. Was this intentional? Yep, I will take a look on it. Hey there, no worries. Fixed the problem, thanks for the reply though!
deadmetal Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Cant tell if im getting the 'inward vagina' issue, but again after the nifscope edit, if my character stays still, the mesh seems to try attaching itself over to the right leg of my character...and not only that but forces the but to jiggle constantly, its hilarity sure...but an idea on how to fix it would be appreciated
flutie Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 After reading Blabba's BS2 guide, i have not found what I need. I am looking for a guide on how to add new sliders to an exsiting slider set, ie the SLFC slider and add these sliders to it, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27102-poc-nipple-add-ons-puffy-and-inverted/?p=739860, Nipple Add-ons, puffy and inverted, entry 11 and 14. If you could point the way, it would be greatly appreciated.
gh057gurl Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I had it working! It was glorious. Then, I.. i dunno. I sneezed or something, or added something and the belly caved in. I started over from a clean install of skyrim, with just the mods from above. Belly still caved in. Tried the fixes even though im using the newest skeleton. nope. moved the skeleton around in my mod organizer. Nothing is fixing it. I have no idea. Sometimes i think stuff on here is like 10% logical and 90% voodoo. I'm going to go sacrifice a chicken and then try again.
Groovtama Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I had it working! It was glorious. Then, I.. i dunno. I sneezed or something, or added something and the belly caved in. I started over from a clean install of skyrim, with just the mods from above. Belly still caved in. Tried the fixes even though im using the newest skeleton. nope. moved the skeleton around in my mod organizer. Nothing is fixing it. I have no idea. Sometimes i think stuff on here is like 10% logical and 90% voodoo. I'm going to go sacrifice a chicken and then try again. 3. HOW 2 FIX INWARD BELLY AFTER UPDATING TO 2.0+: <- Belly problem with old xml to the new Belly system most problem solutions are on my description page, you need to read to learn how to fix something, reading is not voodoo...
gh057gurl Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 yup! i actually do read. I appreciate the help and that you are dealing with an illiterate lot, but as I mentioned, i tried the fixes on your description page. Also, you are still pretty damn awesome... for a witch doctor. edit: Ok so it helps to edit the right xml file. i was editing the one in the hdt all in one file.. and forgot that it is being overwritten by the one in the body file. >.< so that actually fixed the belly while my character is not moving. but when moving the belly is still really pulled in and deformed with a bit of something coming out the back while jumping/falling. I'll keep at it though until i figure it out. thanks
guk Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Alright just tested this. To sum up my observations: the trepleen body is missing the "groin" slider: no "Groin -95%" slider means that most SL animations made for UNP are incompatible (hand inside the pubis mons at "stroke clit" animations etc.) i can confirm the inverted belly (no disrespect but i'm not gonna read another guide how to fix Daie's .xml when my own is working fine) the vagina mesh did not react to hands, neither male nor female the reactions to the SoS penis are... weird at best, it looks like in those "uterus camera" hentais and shakes like jell-o on a laundry machine So, i'd say there is room for improvement Keep up the good work
Arhon Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Alright just tested this. To sum up my observations: the trepleen body is missing the "groin" slider: no "Groin -95%" slider means that most SL animations made for UNP are incompatible (hand inside the pubis mons at "stroke clit" animations etc.) i can confirm the inverted belly (no disrespect but i'm not gonna read another guide how to fix Daie's .xml when my own is working fine) the vagina mesh did not react to hands, neither male nor female the reactions to the SoS penis are... weird at best, it looks like in those "uterus camera" hentais and shakes like jell-o on a laundry machine enb 2015_01_04 03_36_49_81.jpgenb 2015_01_04 04_04_53_98.jpg So, i'd say there is room for improvement Keep up the good work What would be the difference if the "groin" slider is in or not if I may ask ?
deadmetal Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Hmm ok I seem to have fixed the issue, the vagina is now working proper, however in the process I've had to disable breast collision physics, is there any way to have them both running?
guk Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 What would be the difference if the "groin" slider is in or not if I may ask ? Many animations and poses are simply clipping if you don't reduce the groin depth in Bodyslide. Would take a while to create comparison images, but if you use "non-sexlab animations" then play the "4D female masturbation" on a standard CBBE body (so 0% groin change) and you'll see what i mean. The fingers/hand are always inside the body, even during the "gently stroke clit" phase. Now create a Bodyslide shape with -95% groin, and you'll see the fingers are only inside the pussy during the actual "fingering" stages. Same with the new fisting animations and pretty much everything else designed for UNP.
Z0mBieP00Nani Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 After reading Blabba's BS2 guide, i have not found what I need. I am looking for a guide on how to add new sliders to an exsiting slider set, ie the SLFC slider and add these sliders to it, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27102-poc-nipple-add-ons-puffy-and-inverted/?p=739860, Nipple Add-ons, puffy and inverted, entry 11 and 14. If you could point the way, it would be greatly appreciated. CalienteTools.rar And for future reference: Basically all you have to do is; put the BSD file into the "ShapeData" folder, and then open the XML file in the "SliderSets" folder (using Notepad++, or the like) and add the following line of code in under the line of code at the top of the XML file that reads <BaseShapeName target="BaseShape">BaseShape</BaseShapeName>: <Slider name="XXX" small="0" big="0"> <datafile name="XXX" target="BaseShape">XXX.bsd</datafile> </Slider> Replace the Xs with the name of the BSD file you put into your "ShapeData" folder earlier, exactly as it appears on the BSD file. Then hit the save disk icon at the top of Notepad++ and you should be good to go. Also, I'm not sure if it matters because I'm no programmer myself; just to be on the safe side make sure all of the lines of code you enter line up and look identical in configuration to the others that are already there. [EDIT] One more thing, some XML files will reference more than one body type, in that case what you would have to do is scroll down to the "slider set name" you're trying to add your new sliders to, find the line of code highlited in purple above (sorry for any of you color blind folks out there ), and then input the line of code highlited in blue underneath that code. Also I should mention that the file above DOES NOT contain the inverted nipple sliders, and the reason for that is because apparently the bsd file for that slider was not made available in the link posted above, so I couldn't add them.. sorry for any inconvenience.
Daiemonic Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 04/01/15 UPDATE: Fixed inward belly, improved belly collisions with SOS.
Daiemonic Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 Alright just tested this. To sum up my observations: the trepleen body is missing the "groin" slider: no "Groin -95%" slider means that most SL animations made for UNP are incompatible (hand inside the pubis mons at "stroke clit" animations etc.) i can confirm the inverted belly (no disrespect but i'm not gonna read another guide how to fix Daie's .xml when my own is working fine) the vagina mesh did not react to hands, neither male nor female the reactions to the SoS penis are... weird at best, it looks like in those "uterus camera" hentais and shakes like jell-o on a laundry machine enb 2015_01_04 03_36_49_81.jpgenb 2015_01_04 04_04_53_98.jpg So, i'd say there is room for improvement Keep up the good work About the vagina reaction to the SOS, you need to play a bit with SOS positions (in/out, Up/down...) If you position SOS too close to vagina, with the scrotum inside the pubis, the vagina physics will be broken. In my game, I have quite decent collisions with vagina playing a bit with the positions. About the missing groing slider, I doubt it turns incompatible anything. All you can get is a bit of clipping, like in the most of Sexlab animations if you dont play with positions and align. About the hand collision, I can enable with 1 click, but it will need more testing ingame, and the SL animations playing with fingering are the minority. About the inward belly, I have updated the xml to help with this. Anyway if you are not satisfied with it, the fix in JFF takes 30s if you know what you are doing.
jdods13 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 What would cause the vagina the stretch to infinity? I've got the correct mesh and skeleton installed. Also will this work with the Skeleton packaged in the Trepleen body zip?
Daiemonic Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 What would cause the vagina the stretch to infinity? I've got the correct mesh and skeleton installed. Also will this work with the Skeleton packaged in the Trepleen body zip? Bad .xml/skeleton. Follow the instructions in the main post. It will only work as intended with XPMSE 2.33 skeleton.
guk Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Thanks for the replies, definitely keeping track of this. TBH the 3D vagina is already an improvement over the "barbie doll" genitals on regular body replacers, even without the HDT/collision features. Textures would need adjustment for final versions, as in my game they are extremely bright compared to the rest of the body.
bigglebojiggle Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 So I wanted to do some screenshots of my character but I don't like the way her stomach jiggles when I'm not moving, so I owuld naturally download this: hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBPNoBelly(idle2).xml right? Do I rename it, or just add it to the folder?
jdods13 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Now that I've finally gotten this working I'm experiencing new issues. The left labia seems to react violently no matter what position I try. The right side look perfect and opens gently but not the left. Also the HDT collision has the belly stretching way out when my character gets near his wife's tummy. I'm only using the HDT files from this package. Is there something extra I need to tweak to make the left labia behave identical to the right? Also is there something I need to do to make the bellies reaction to collision less exaggerated? Thank you for any help. HDT Log if it is needed hdtPhysicsExtensions[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: Queue OK[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: System run with 8 threads[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: Havok simulated world created.[01/05/15 14:32:51]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load[01/05/15 14:33:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtm.xml[01/05/15 14:33:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : skse\plugins\hdtm.xml[01/05/15 14:33:34]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:33:34]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:33:34]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:35:20]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:35:20]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:35:20]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:35:20]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:35:21]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:35:21]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:35:21]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:35:21]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:36:29]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:36:29]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:36:29]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:36:29]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:36:30]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml[01/05/15 14:36:30]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml[01/05/15 14:36:51]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:36:51]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:36:51]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:36:51]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:36:51]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:36:51]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:36:52]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:36:52]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:37:12]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:37:35]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:38:06]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:38:06]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:38:06]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:38:06]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:38:56]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:40:20]INFO: Physics system loaded : skse\plugins\hdtm.xml[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:41:48]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:41:57]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:47:42]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:47:42]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:47:42]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:47:55]INFO: Cell changed...[01/05/15 14:47:55]INFO: Add character 0005b688[01/05/15 14:47:55]INFO: Add character 00000014[01/05/15 14:48:26]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml[01/05/15 14:48:26]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml
Sumthang Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Hi folks, I can't seem to get the vagina to animate. I've got the Havok Object equiped in my inventory. Could Mod Organizer be the problem here? In Nifskope, I simply put the string data to "Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml" as per the original post, but of course the file isn't actually there, it's in my MO mod folder. However, the file -should- be placed in the Data folder upon starting Skyrim via MO, right?
bigglebojiggle Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Hi folks, I can't seem to get the vagina to animate. I've got the Havok Object equiped in my inventory. Could Mod Organizer be the problem here? In Nifskope, I simply put the string data to "Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml" as per the original post, but of course the file isn't actually there, it's in my MO mod folder. However, the file -should- be placed in the Data folder upon starting Skyrim via MO, right? I really havnt used the hdt vagina, but if its like the other hdt (which it definitely should be) then it looks like your string data is right. Don't forget you have to have the right skeleton and the right hdt file
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