Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[justbob2]

 

 

 

I don't know if this has been addressed yet, but is there a way to end slavery to a beast master (like a wolf) without killing it? I enjoyed the wolf pet experience, but it's time to move on in the game.

There is no positive ending (yet) for creature enslavement.

 

The only way to do that is to use the Safeword option from the menu. That should end your slavery from any master, creature or humaoid.

Too bad. But, since you added "yet", I assume you have plans for that in the future. On another note, is there a way for an animal (like the wolf) to enslave you without using a collar? I understand this is all fantasy, but It doesn't really make sense that a creature without thumbs could manipulate devious devices.

 

P.S. - I want to add my thanks to all the others who have already applauded all the time and effort you have put into creating this great module.

The collar is a necessary device. You will notice that most creatures enslave you with a spectral collar, which is a way to indicate Sanguine himself is messing around with you (and it explains why creatures without thumbs would get a collar on you).

 

Thank you for the explanation. If you use the Safeword to end the slavery, what happens to your gear? Is it in the chest in Sanguine's realm?

[Guest]

 

 

 

I don't know if this has been addressed yet, but is there a way to end slavery to a beast master (like a wolf) without killing it? I enjoyed the wolf pet experience, but it's time to move on in the game.

There is no positive ending (yet) for creature enslavement.

 

The only way to do that is to use the Safeword option from the menu. That should end your slavery from any master, creature or humaoid.

Too bad. But, since you added "yet", I assume you have plans for that in the future. On another note, is there a way for an animal (like the wolf) to enslave you without using a collar? I understand this is all fantasy, but It doesn't really make sense that a creature without thumbs could manipulate devious devices.

 

P.S. - I want to add my thanks to all the others who have already applauded all the time and effort you have put into creating this great module.

The collar is a necessary device. You will notice that most creatures enslave you with a spectral collar, which is a way to indicate Sanguine himself is messing around with you (and it explains why creatures without thumbs would get a collar on you).

 

 

Actually the way you explained it helps me out in the immersion sense XD I like the idea of him messing with me

[VaunWolfe]

I am still having issues with this mod or at least I think it is this mod. When I get defeated by an animal it goes to a black out screan and it just makes me wake up with the animal and it rapes me. When this happens I have tried both curent and older defeat. I have even shut it off and I still get raped then killed by the animal. I have tried both curent and older version of death alternative. I have also tried clean saves and brand new games. With the same issue.

[Saeros]

 

 

 

 

I don't know if this has been addressed yet, but is there a way to end slavery to a beast master (like a wolf) without killing it? I enjoyed the wolf pet experience, but it's time to move on in the game.

There is no positive ending (yet) for creature enslavement.

 

The only way to do that is to use the Safeword option from the menu. That should end your slavery from any master, creature or humaoid.

Too bad. But, since you added "yet", I assume you have plans for that in the future. On another note, is there a way for an animal (like the wolf) to enslave you without using a collar? I understand this is all fantasy, but It doesn't really make sense that a creature without thumbs could manipulate devious devices.

 

P.S. - I want to add my thanks to all the others who have already applauded all the time and effort you have put into creating this great module.

The collar is a necessary device. You will notice that most creatures enslave you with a spectral collar, which is a way to indicate Sanguine himself is messing around with you (and it explains why creatures without thumbs would get a collar on you).

 

Thank you for the explanation. If you use the Safeword to end the slavery, what happens to your gear? Is it in the chest in Sanguine's realm?

 

 

that explains a lot

I started a new game with CCAS ( Content Consumer's Alternate Starts ) , enslaved by Troll (SD+).. no-way to escape.

my female character is level 1 and troll lvl 14.. beaten and raped over and over by monstrous troll dick.. with apropos wear and tear system, after couple of days, the PC is destroyed by continuous beast-sex, making it virtually impossible to escape..

..is practically a hell!

I tried to escape, throwing off a cliff into a river.. but after a short time, the collar shocking and send the character in a Bleedout permanent state.. perhaps because of a conflict with some mod (Death Alternative + SexLab defeat or SD+)...

 

cheers

 

S.

[bicobus]

What a weird idea to start as a troll sextoy though...

[Mr. private]

I have a problem with dead alternative to start scenarios when i have SD scenarios turned on. For example i turn on spriggan and get in bleed-out by non spriggan i just get back on my feet with the message: "You still get some live in you". when i turn it off it works fine. if i get killed by spriggan with this option on it works fine. Same goes for enslavement.

 

Other quick question: is there a way to disable beast slavery but keep humanoids?

[Darthk]

I thought of an idea if it was possible at all or unless it is a thing in the mod here, what I was thinking is your character was a slave but you manage to get free and then you and your master fight and the master loses, and instead of killing the master or just escaping you instead enslave your master and you the former slave are now the former masters slave who is now your slave

 

 

 

Also I have a question, is there a way to turn off/disable Beast Slavery and just keep it to humanoids?

[Saeros]

What a weird idea to start as a troll sextoy though...

 

 yes,

but i'm testing all the alternate starts..

..and anyway, it's much worse starting as "slave of a giant" 

 

S.

 

edit: I have this strange problem after start a new game Using CCAS: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/60586-content-consumers-alternate-starts/?p=1639031

I have RND and SD+ (with all prerequisites), I start the game as slave of giant/troll (beast SD+ enslaved), but when i ask to the character owner a drink to decrease thirst, message appears on top left corner adding in the inventory, a bottle of poison.. nothing else.

It's normal? 

 

thanks in advance.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

What a weird idea to start as a troll sextoy though...

 

 yes,

but i'm testing all the alternate starts..

..and anyway, it's much worse starting as "slave of a giant" 

 

S.

 

edit: I have this strange problem after start a new game Using CCAS: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/60586-content-consumers-alternate-starts/?p=1639031

I have RND and SD+ (with all prerequisites), I start the game as slave of giant/troll (beast SD+ enslaved), but when i ask to the character owner a drink to decrease thirst, message appears on top left corner adding in the inventory, a bottle of poison.. nothing else.

It's normal? 

 

thanks in advance.

 

 

That is deliberate.

Until I can figure out a reliable way to feed the player with a safe drink that is not wine or ale, asking for a drink from creature masters will be a dangerous task.

 

I want to use vanilla resources only for these dialogues. I don't want to add support for RND, iNeeds or other needs mods.

 

I am open to suggestions.

[Saeros]

 

 

What a weird idea to start as a troll sextoy though...

 

 yes,

but i'm testing all the alternate starts..

..and anyway, it's much worse starting as "slave of a giant" 

 

S.

 

edit: I have this strange problem after start a new game Using CCAS: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/60586-content-consumers-alternate-starts/?p=1639031

I have RND and SD+ (with all prerequisites), I start the game as slave of giant/troll (beast SD+ enslaved), but when i ask to the character owner a drink to decrease thirst, message appears on top left corner adding in the inventory, a bottle of poison.. nothing else.

It's normal? 

 

thanks in advance.

 

 

That is deliberate.

Until I can figure out a reliable way to feed the player with a safe drink that is not wine or ale, asking for a drink from creature masters will be a dangerous task.

 

I want to use vanilla resources only for these dialogues. I don't want to add support for RND, iNeeds or other needs mods.

 

I am open to suggestions.

 

 

I understand.

I think with RND installed, all skyrim vanilla beverages are considered "decrease thirst" by RND engine.

[DeepBlueFrog]

My problem with that is that all vanilla drinkable are forms of alcohol. There isn't a vanilla 'water' or 'juice' I can use.

 

I can play with good and bad potions but then they would not register as drinks by RND type mods.

[bicobus]

What's wrong with alcohol? Also, the whole point in asking the owner for a drink/food is because the player gets hungry. Otherwise, I wouldn't even get into that dialogue tree.

[DeepBlueFrog]

What's wrong with alcohol? Also, the whole point in asking the owner for a drink/food is because the player gets hungry. Otherwise, I wouldn't even get into that dialogue tree.

Alcohol is fine from human masters (and it is provided already when you ask).

 

The problem is with Wolves, or Trolls or other beasts as maters.

[bicobus]

Oh right, well, they could just pee in their new fuck-pet mouth? Or simply let the slave feed itself. Animals don't really care: eat when you're hungry, drink when you're thirty but be there when I'm horny. I guess they should expect the new fuck-pet to be part of the family/pack.

 

I mean, the ways animals behave are totally different from an humanoid. A cat would catch a mouse, then let it escape so it can catch the prey again. The way animal life has been implemented in skyrim is flawed though. They should move around, search for water source and/or hunt, and to simulate that the game just spawn an elk then a wolf next to it.

 

I don't know about trolls though. They seems to be cave dwellers that likes to collect things, like bones and backpacks. Humans are usually full of those. Do we even know what trolls drink, except the blood of their hunt?

 

Anyhow, this is full on deviant forum. Why not just say that the animal owner feeds the slave with a special body fluid, which quench thirst and increase arousal (did somebody said cum?)? Or they could just hunt down something and make you eat it/drink its blood.

[Content Consumer]

The problem is, it looks like RND uses a combination of globals and spells to deal with hydration level instead of something like storageutil variables. So in order to get RND integration, I think this would have to use getformfromfile, which can potentially introduce some real problems into your save game if you don't have RND.

 

A patch/plugin would be a better choice, like Frostfall.

 

Anyway, a troll or giant might observe that humans tend to drink from bottles, and so when a human is thirsty, give it a bottle. What do you mean, different liquids come in different bottles? A bottle is a bottle! Why would you go around putting poison in a drinking bottle? That's insane!

A random result might be better - pick from a bunch of different bottles (poison, alcohol, skooma, empty bottle). I dunno...

[Saeros]

right, I agree on the argument about animals.

you can not ask a wolf or sabrecat with lower intelligence, to drink or eat..

it is quite unlikely become slaves of a wolf or other animals, but to leave open this possibility, it's necessary to find a solution that allows the player to drink and eat independently..

RND permit "drinking for stream" power, but you need to be near a water source (river).. and predator can kill deer, goat etc.. and provide food (if player asked for)..

skyrim is full of natural water, maybe it would be enough to increase the distance before the collar vibrate/shock the character..

 

for trolls and giants I like the random choice of "vanilla beverages" and skooma proposed by CC.. is not so strange that a giant or a troll take these things from killed humans 

 

[Guest]

i noticed the crawl animations are missing some animations

 

- crawlwalk left

- crawlwalk right

- crawl sprint

 

Also idk if this is just me but when he decided to shave my head it doesn't work and when I get tats applied it removes all my currently applied tats for some reason.

[aim4it]

I noticed LOOT 9.2 is placing SDpatch - frostfall.esp before Frostfall.esp and sanguinesDebauchery.esp is this wrong, hard to tell since there's not a hard dependencies.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I just uploaded a new version of SD+ (3.5.1) with these changes:

 

- Added: Investigate FNIS Sexy Move to enable full crawling animation 

- Added: Add more randomness to destinations from dreamworld 

- Added: Add support for lasting slavetats whip marks after punishment scenes 

- Added: Extend cooldown of random animal attacks when enslaved or crawling 

- Added: Fix messages for punishments with non speaking creatures 

- Added: Allow dialogue to remove slave bindings/gag from follower or slave NPC 

- Added: Allow for manual follower release 

- Added: Allow ‘I need a strong hand’ if no collar and kneeling or crawling 

- Added: Disable enslaved follower forced kneeling if engaged in sexual anim 

- Added: Remove Estrus anims from solo shows after Dance scene 

- Added: Add submit/resist menu to gangbang queue 

- Added: Add submit/resist menu for normal enslavement 

- Added: Set separate endgame if master is beast and annoyed (release and attack) 

- Added: Set up kneeling, crawling on demand 

- Added: Player is sliding in kneeling position 

- Added: Clear choking image space when freed from enslavement 

- Added: Add saber cats and bears races 

- Added: Remove female only condition for beast enslavement 

- Added: Add chance of random punishment if master if not happy 

- Added: Enable full crawl animations with humanoid masters 

- Added: Add storageUtil variable to toggle gender of Sanguine API 

- Added: Cleaned up potential issues with abusive event loops enhancement SD+ Core

- Added: Fixed several glitches with standing/kneeling conditions 

 

- Fixed: Shock effect from collar was not updating arousal correctly

- Fixed: Fix arm clipping when standing idle with leather armbinder 

- Fixed: Reset player pose after dance 

- Fixed: Check enslavement after removal of custom factions from creatures 

- Fixed: NPC mouth doesn't open properly for ZAP gags 

- Fixed: Punishment and whipping scenes do not start anymore 

- Fixed: Visits to dreamworld are not incremented correctly 

- Fixed: Issue with mod event to increment visits to sanguine world 

- Fixed: Spriggan enslavement is not working anymore 

- Fixed: Spriggan Roots mask is not equipped anymore 

- Fixed: Spectral collar not detected by court wizard if spriggan roots are on 

- Fixed: Check why trust pool always starts at -10 

 

Note that you will have to run FNIS for Users for this update since I changed a couple of dance animations and most importantly, I added full support for crawling animations.

 

I also recompiled the Frostfall addon for the latest version of Frostfall. Install the addon only if you are using the latest version of Frostfall.

[Guest]

Amazing you even added the whipping marks I am not quite sure what you mean about sexy move is it required in any way?

 

Also any plans to maybe have a cooldown timer for sex acts? Because sometimes I feel like there is just too much sex you know what i mean? LIke a recovery phase between the next sex event it doesn't even have to be super long but having sex right after sex no one has that stamina xD anyway just an idea, love what you have done so far you're amazing!

[xtremeGoose]

This still uses DA 6.x.x right?

[Guest]

This still uses DA 6.x.x right?

 

The new version works with the latest Death Alternative yes

[xtremeGoose]

 

This still uses DA 6.x.x right?

 

The new version works with the latest Death Alternative yes

 

Wait, so DA 7.x.x is correct? There's a note in the description about using 6.x.x, but I wasn't sure if that was just an oversight or not.

[Guest]

 

 

This still uses DA 6.x.x right?

 

The new version works with the latest Death Alternative yes

 

Wait, so DA 7.x.x is correct? There's a note in the description about using 6.x.x, but I wasn't sure if that was just an oversight or not.

 

 

Yes if you check through the comments there have been tons of reports that say it plays nicely with the latest version, I even tested myself no issues.

[xtremeGoose]

 

 

Great, thanks for the info!