Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[hazarada]

Whenever my character gets captured the owner goes apeshit on everything that is generally considered "good" factions. So for example if i get captured in a city first the city folk kill the owner and then try and kill me which leads to new owner who again gets turned on and so on. Thats a bug right?

[MallaVelve]

Ok, 2nd Flowering Spriggan Infection...

Quest log shows I need to go to Autumn Shade Clearing.

Fast travel to hunter camp next to goal.  When game resumes ... Option: Use nearby bed?  Choice = No.  Masterbation.  once done  wait 20 seconds and anotherOption: Use nearby bed?  Choice = No.  Masterbation.  wait 1 min....nothing happens.  Go to Autumn Shade Clearing.

Husk is 7' off the ground.  I get within 10 feet of it and the script triggers.  Spriggan leaves me.  Masterbation.  There is a Spriggan (Matron I think)  walking around, a Bear, and a Wolf.   I run around naked for a few minutes ...try to talk to spriggan,  can not even highlight it to get name.    No interaction.   Hit "T" and wait 1 hr.  Nothing changes  run around...nothing.   Look at Quest log.  It has changed to say; Spriggans abuse for hrs.     Hit "T" wait 1 hr.   run around...nothing.  Get message: "Sap is slowly pumping into your veins" (might not have gotten the verbage on that line right)  saved game and came here to post.  

Log is a bit full however.  

 

Flowering Spriggan Log.7z

 

Ok, went back to save, ran around .... waited 1 hr ... repeat .. 3 more times. All three Agro and I kill them  Quest updates to Completed.  Was a Male Spriggan Matron.     Hehehe (odd choice of name there, might be because Immersive Bodys tags creatures as male or female and adds genetalia.  However no genetalia on Spriggan...  Anyway, all three agro and attack me and Quest completes.  

[OH1972]

Whenever my character gets captured the owner goes apeshit on everything that is generally considered "good" factions. So for example if i get captured in a city first the city folk kill the owner and then try and kill me which leads to new owner who again gets turned on and so on. Thats a bug right?

 

I had the funny situation once that the HORSE of an owner went aggro on him, killing him while he was f*cking the PC. Hard to beat that in getting out of enslavement easily and quickly. Plus, since it was at the very start of the game, it provided a full set of equipment... But I ended up reloading because it was just too darn easy

[windu190]

 

Is the dance already fixed? whenever I want to dance I still get the same "scene skipped" issue. 

 

If you see 'scene skipped' as a message, check out your scripts and make sure you don't have old script starting with '_sd_' laying around.

 

If the scene is skipped without message, it means the NPCs were busy somehow.

 

Dancing should be working now but only when you are enslaved.

 

 

 

This is what I get. I assume it's something on my end but I have no idea what it could be. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Is the dance already fixed? whenever I want to dance I still get the same "scene skipped" issue. 

 

If you see 'scene skipped' as a message, check out your scripts and make sure you don't have old script starting with '_sd_' laying around.

 

If the scene is skipped without message, it means the NPCs were busy somehow.

 

Dancing should be working now but only when you are enslaved.

 

 

 

This is what I get. I assume it's something on my end but I have no idea what it could be. 

 

 

Ok... _sdqs_snp should not be skipping scene 7 anymore.

 

So.. it has to be one of two things:

 

1- You sill have standlone scripts in your Scripts folder. Look for anything starting with _sd, especially _sdqs_snp.pex and delete it.

 

2- You still have the old version of the script baked into your saved game.

 

This case is trickier to fix.

 

The best solution is to start a new game.

 

Short of that, you can try to make sure there is no scene running for 'snp'.

 

Console -> stopquest _sd_snp

 

Reload your game and see if that helps.

[windu190]

 

 

1- You sill have standlone scripts in your Scripts folder. Look for anything starting with _sd, especially _sdqs_snp.pex and delete it.

 

 

That worked, thanks a lot

[pinky6225]

 

 

Have the mechanics behind the 'I need a strong hand to guide me'  changed? After an update it never seems work, always get the response 'not my problem'.

 

Not to sound like a broken record but... lol

 

 

 

I did change one thing - only people with low morality will enslave you.

It didn't make sense to me that anyone would just take a random slave since slavery is supposedly frowned upon in Skyrim.

 

That said, once I fix the issue with friendly NPC masters going on a rampage, it could be fun to have a larger choice of people to ask from.

 

One way to go about it would be to ease the requirements based on your visits to Sanguine, like Coveted.

 

At first, only people with low morality would take advantage of you but after many visits to Sanguine's realm, just about anyone would be compelled to abuse you.

 

 

Could you make it low morality or negative relationship since then if we wanted we could go and do something to the NPC in question to lower relationship if we wanted to be enslaved by them.

 

With submit if you assualt someone it lowers relationship and there must be vanilla/other mod that allow lowering relationship

[OH1972]

How do I see where to go with the spriggan? Quest log only talks of a "distant grove" and I see nothing marked on the map

[MallaVelve]

How do I see where to go with the spriggan? Quest log only talks of a "distant grove" and I see nothing marked on the map

 

Well for me, I struggled through 6 quests or more, 11 PC levels, before I finally got A quest update.   Your time spent as a Flowering Spriggan may vary.

[moddingnoob]

I still can't get the positive/passive dialogue line to work out.  Also, there's something about mind control in the op, where is that?

[DeepBlueFrog]

I still can't get the positive/passive dialogue line to work out.  Also, there's something about mind control in the op, where is that?

 

Currently, Passive and Anger start with the same chance of appearing in your dialog.

 

As you get more submissive or more fiesty, the opposite option becomes less and less likely to happen, which locks your path eventually.

 

The 'Please' option allows you to slowly revert from Anger to Passive as you apologize and beg.

 

This is a very crude system. I am working on a better system based on your Master's mood and your own actions.

 

Mind Control refers to one of my other mods (see the link in my signature). 

[Carida]

Greetings!

 

I usually keep up with this thread but I haven't seen mention of this particular issue I have been experiencing, I'm sorry if its has already mentioned. As to the problem, when enslaved it ignores the sexual preference I put in as I would rather not be enslaved by females. Once enslaved by a female, my character will attempt to ask a male to take her on, often they will say no but when she does find one that says yes, the enslaved rank changes to 0 and everyone becomes aggressive once more and starts attacking her nonstop. There seems to be no solution for this other then reloading before I was enslaved, but I figured I might mention this.

 

Thank you for the mod

 

-C

[DeepBlueFrog]

Now that's different.

 

My current test character found herself enslaved to Angrim himself

 

She had very low health after fighting a pack of wolves and since she has reached a high level of Succubus in Hormones, I thought sex with Angrim would replenish her health quickly.

 

What I didn't expect is that sex with Angrim comes with a spell, and casting a spell on my PC while she was critically wounded made her eligible to enslavement.

 

So now she is walking around with Angrim following her.

 

I don't think I will fix that kind of behavior since it is relatively rare and it can lead to interesting situations. 

 

As usual, save often in case these explorations come with nasty side effects down the road.

 

For now, lets see what happens with Angrim as a master.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Greetings!

 

I usually keep up with this thread but I haven't seen mention of this particular issue I have been experiencing, I'm sorry if its has already mentioned. As to the problem, when enslaved it ignores the sexual preference I put in as I would rather not be enslaved by females. Once enslaved by a female, my character will attempt to ask a male to take her on, often they will say no but when she does find one that says yes, the enslaved rank changes to 0 and everyone becomes aggressive once more and starts attacking her nonstop. There seems to be no solution for this other then reloading before I was enslaved, but I figured I might mention this.

 

Thank you for the mod

 

-C

 

Thanks for reporting this.

 

That means I forgot to add a gender preference check to 'I need a strong hand...'. I will add that to the list.

 

NPCs becoming hostile after enslavement is a bug due to changes in your relationship to the Master. I will fix that soon.

[Vithiss]

Just my two cents on the question of morality and who will take you as a slave:

 

I play (roleplay that is) SD differently from one character to the next, but one of the reasons, in my own mind, why a character would approach an npc she had contacts with before (Ysolda, say, after getting her the tusk) is that, after having been enslaved and going far into sub-space to please the owner (and stop the pain etc) the character needs a gradual reintroduction to life as a free person, which, she would hope, would be more likely to come from a "good" person, than, say Belethor who gives the impression that he'd happily re-sell her to the first person to offer him gold. Of course, this rp assumes that the good person in question understands the situation this way too. These are the folks, too, who I think are most likely to ask you to earn your freedom (re-pay them) but who might (via rp) insist that the pc earn the money 'honestly' - ie, not just whoring.

Other times 'racism' might count for an otherwise good person to accept some types of pcs as slaves, analogous with the current "hate rape" stuff (which I love, btw, great idea!)

 

Just one way of looking at it, of course, and I do a lot of odd things in my head for rp around/with SD+ especially, that the mod encourages my brain to do these things is one of the reasons I have a lasting affection for SD and so much gratitude for its continued refinement and development.

[AwfulArchdemon]

 

 

I've been thinking...what if I made a coliseum, and the loser was enslaved? Arena combat, hosted by Sanguine. If you win, you gain access to a slave pen, to house the slaves you win in the arena, and a special slave pen for you when you lose. Maybe Sanguine can be dueled when you defend your title? Winning gains you a daedric power, or something.

 

 

[Vithiss]

 

 

I've been thinking...what if I made a coliseum, and the loser was enslaved? Arena combat, hosted by Sanguine. If you win, you gain access to a slave pen, to house the slaves you win in the arena, and a special slave pen for you when you lose. Maybe Sanguine can be dueled when you defend your title? Winning gains you a daedric power, or something.

 

Skyrim Coliseum(.max).jpg

 

 

Sounds like a lot of fun

 

Maybe you could get a dremora follower for a while? Would that be easier to do than giving pc's powers?

 

[OH1972]

Ok, I rechecked my problem with the other character and it looks like indeed, ever since her last enslavement, bandits do not attack whereas adventurers, thugs and bounty hunters attack. Unfortunately, my attempts to revert that via console commands so far have been unsuccessfull. Skyrimll, can you tell me how to best revert this? I do not remember getting the option to join them, but less taking it. Rather, my PC snuck out of the cave one day and ran. There was barely any interaction with the owner except for asking for food and drink - and on the latter, she was given a bottle of skooma. Which was nice, since I actually intended to assume they would drug her to keep her dependent on them....but somehow, that evidently went a bit far without me doing anything on my own to change factions.

[AwfulArchdemon]

 

 

 

I've been thinking...what if I made a coliseum, and the loser was enslaved? Arena combat, hosted by Sanguine. If you win, you gain access to a slave pen, to house the slaves you win in the arena, and a special slave pen for you when you lose. Maybe Sanguine can be dueled when you defend your title? Winning gains you a daedric power, or something.

 

Skyrim Coliseum(.max).jpg

 

 

Sounds like a lot of fun

 

Maybe you could get a dremora follower for a while? Would that be easier to do than giving pc's powers?

 

 

I have the .obj file ready, but I haven't scaled it or textured it, so it's likely to be unusable until I tweak it, but from the pic I showed, it's very viable. If I made that thing like a quarter mile in radius ? I could toss some NPC's in there too, and if I'm good at it, I now have the ability to record voice-acting and music from my comp, and change it to (almost) any format. $$$. It ain't cheap, but recording is one of the things I wanna do most.

I leave tomorrow till Thursday.

[moddingnoob]

 

I still can't get the positive/passive dialogue line to work out.  Also, there's something about mind control in the op, where is that?

 

Currently, Passive and Anger start with the same chance of appearing in your dialog.

 

As you get more submissive or more fiesty, the opposite option becomes less and less likely to happen, which locks your path eventually.

 

The 'Please' option allows you to slowly revert from Anger to Passive as you apologize and beg.

 

This is a very crude system. I am working on a better system based on your Master's mood and your own actions.

 

Mind Control refers to one of my other mods (see the link in my signature). 

 

Ok, thanks for explaining that.  I have "what must I do to please you" and I do it once, then I have to wait like an hour to d o it again and then I can't do it anymore, it never appears again, even if I wait several days.  The aggressive option is always present.  Also, when I choose the aggressive option is says the "slave status" has changed, this never happens with the positive side.

[Carida]

Greetings,

 

Alrighty after playing for another.. I think its been an hour.. Skyrim eats my brain.. but none the less after playing yet more, my character has attempted to get out of her slavery by simply being passive and attempting to do the indentured servant quest. (this is the first time she's ever been enslaved for any long amount of time, usually she gets free pretty quick) Now she was able to get it, even tho he beat her much and did her much. I'm not sure if this is reward or not.... but none the less, she was able to get 87 gold, gave it to him, he said "you think this is enough?" then raped her. Then next time I wasn't able to give him any money she'd earned and then the dialogue option was as if to start the indentured servant quest all over again. I put her to sleep as she was tired from her owner's.. errm.. rigorousness.. and when she woke she failed the indentured servant quest.

 

So my question would be, how does one complete the indentured servant quest? Should she just keep whoring none stop until she earns the money to get free? Should there be no sleeping of any kind? I'm not sure. A little bit at a loss, but its interesting to explore! As always, thank you for the mod Oh.. they are forsworn.. just in case that is important information.

 

-C

[Guest]

Greetings,

 

Alrighty after playing for another.. I think its been an hour.. Skyrim eats my brain.. but none the less after playing yet more, my character has attempted to get out of her slavery by simply being passive and attempting to do the indentured servant quest. (this is the first time she's ever been enslaved for any long amount of time, usually she gets free pretty quick) Now she was able to get it, even tho he beat her much and did her much. I'm not sure if this is reward or not.... but none the less, she was able to get 87 gold, gave it to him, he said "you think this is enough?" then raped her. Then next time I wasn't able to give him any money she'd earned and then the dialogue option was as if to start the indentured servant quest all over again. I put her to sleep as she was tired from her owner's.. errm.. rigorousness.. and when she woke she failed the indentured servant quest.

 

So my question would be, how does one complete the indentured servant quest? Should she just keep whoring none stop until she earns the money to get free? Should there be no sleeping of any kind? I'm not sure. A little bit at a loss, but its interesting to explore! As always, thank you for the mod Oh.. they are forsworn.. just in case that is important information.

 

-C

 

I think that you need 700 gold, though I could be wrong. The amount of money you get through Coin for the Wicked is so insignificant that it will basically never be enough, you'll need a different mod like Radiant Prostitution. Also, I think that you have to complete the quest after you've been enslaved for at least three days.

 

Separate issue:

 

There are some weird ways in which freeing yourself via weapons works right now. On hardcore mode, you need to find a first weapon to end the enslavement, and a second weapon to cut the bonds. This is sort of strange, and I'm not sure what the in game reasoning is.

 

When you're enslaved, your weapons drop to the ground. (At least mine do, that might be because I'm also using defeat). It would be cool if the Owner would pick up weapons like this when he sees them. That way if you're enslaved by a mobile NPC you don't have to worry about your expensive weapon getting left behind, and if you're enslaved in a fort or something you don't have to wonder why your Owner leaves a bunch of ways for you to free yourself lying around.

 

It would also be nice if the Owner's AI wouldn't switch back to default as soon as you free yourself. Right now if you free yourself while your Owner is asleep, they will instantly wake up. And if you free yourself while out of their sight, they'll forget you ever existed.

[Vithiss]

Greetings,

 

Alrighty after playing for another.. I think its been an hour.. Skyrim eats my brain.. but none the less after playing yet more, my character has attempted to get out of her slavery by simply being passive and attempting to do the indentured servant quest. (this is the first time she's ever been enslaved for any long amount of time, usually she gets free pretty quick) Now she was able to get it, even tho he beat her much and did her much. I'm not sure if this is reward or not.... but none the less, she was able to get 87 gold, gave it to him, he said "you think this is enough?" then raped her. Then next time I wasn't able to give him any money she'd earned and then the dialogue option was as if to start the indentured servant quest all over again. I put her to sleep as she was tired from her owner's.. errm.. rigorousness.. and when she woke she failed the indentured servant quest.

 

So my question would be, how does one complete the indentured servant quest? Should she just keep whoring none stop until she earns the money to get free? Should there be no sleeping of any kind? I'm not sure. A little bit at a loss, but its interesting to explore! As always, thank you for the mod Oh.. they are forsworn.. just in case that is important information.

 

I think that it may be locked while you are enslaved, but the amount you need and the time you have to complete it are configurable in MCM. I am assuming that those sliders are functional.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I haven't got to test the spriggan quest yet but I made some progress on other issues.

 

Among other things, I reduced the aggressiveness of the Master, which in turn seems to have fixed the brawls after being enslaved by a friendly NPC.

 

As a test, my PC submitted peacefully to Jenassa in Whiterun. Nobody attacked her

[Mord Sif]

Regarding NPC morality: I assume this is determined by the option in the Creation Kit under AI Data where you can select "no crime," "any crime" etc? When I create my own followers I always set this to "any crime" so they won't report me to the guards if they see me do something naughty. I didn't realise that in doing so I was creating a potential slaver!

 

This would explain why Adrianne Avenicci is always such a frustrating spoilsport when I try to persuade her to make me her pet (I keep trying, though!) while my own favourite busty Nord NPC is seemingly always up for it!