Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[FlyingLemon]

Hi I have a question about that bug which involves your master hitting you after enslavement. Would it be possible to apply a mass calm effect once you get the ripe for enslavement notification? Perhaps like a separate onhit event? Or did did you solve this issue already?

[Guest]

Off the top of my head I think if you type tim (toggle immortality mode) in the console and then uninstall that'll fix it.  Been a while since I had that issue though.

 

And make sure you use TIM (Toggle Immortality Mode), which is NOT THE SAME as TGM (Toggle God Mode). I lost a few characters because I hadn't realized the difference.

[Storms of Superior]

Thanks for removing Tsun from the slaver possibilities. I will gladly accept the ass-beating to avoid losing stuff; I don't like to reload if I can help it.

[Storms of Superior]

I upgraded to v1.14 on a new PC. I tried to install it, but it is stuck telling me to exit all menus. It's been maybe 15 minutes.

[Buffmutti]

Well, i installed this mod and started a new game, everything was fine, no CTD.

After leaving Helgen Keeps i activated the mod, managed to enter Bleak Falls Barrow and let those 2 Bandits around that fire in the entrance area enslave me.

Still working good, but then the strange things began. In the options of the mod i checked the setting that shows me the demerits, but i never saw any number showing that, but instead i saw every "internal" information like which animation will be played and so on.

Then i asked the one Bandit which was not my owner if she would like to have sex with me. She wanted and the next second she was laying on the floor, hands and feet tied together and i could read the message "Target is not the player" and she stayed like this for the next 2 days.

After 1 week i became bored of this and i used Tdetect so i could beat my owner to death (couldn't use a weapon, after 1 swing my arms didn't move anymore and spells didn't work either). After killing both Bandits i used Tdetect again to be "visible" again.

I took my stuff and used a bedroll to sleep 5 hours. When i enter Sanguine's area i got a CTD.

Ok, no problem, started Skyrim again, loaded the last savegame and slept again, finally i could enter Sanguine's area and when i talked to him it was like smalltalk, not a word about him owning me or something like that and when i asked him to let me go he did and i was like "Wtf? I just need to ask him to let me go and he really does?"

So i decided to sleep again and that ended in another CTD and this time reloading wont help, whenever i try to sleep it will end in a CTD.

 

Maybe trying to become enslaved with Level 1 wasn't the best idea (one sentence from Sanguine was like "You are the Dragonborn and you don't know who i am?" and at that time i couldn't know that i'm the Dragonborn), but i just wanted to test this mod to see if everything works fine.

 

Btw: I don't have Frostfall installed and the Patches for that were installed but not activated.

 

[moddingnoob]

 

Off the top of my head I think if you type tim (toggle immortality mode) in the console and then uninstall that'll fix it.  Been a while since I had that issue though.

 

And make sure you use TIM (Toggle Immortality Mode), which is NOT THE SAME as TGM (Toggle God Mode). I lost a few characters because I hadn't realized the difference.

 

Thanks, I tried TGM, wasn't aware that there was another one.

[Mord Sif]

Noticing something curious I've not seen before. When I get enslaved it seems like there's a chance that the things I'm wearing are duplicated. It's just happened now for the second time. I got the on-screen message that my armour, boots and a few of the accessories I have were being "added" while I was going through the strip animation. When I then checked my owner's inventory in pickpocket/sneak mode, she had two of each of those things.

 

It's not doing it with everything. This time it was the torso armour, boots and three out of the four pouches I wear from the bandoliers mod, but not anything else I had equipped. The previous time it was armour, either boots or bracers (can't remember which) and a piercing I had in a delicate area.  I didn't have any of the bandolier stuff back then.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Noticing something curious I've not seen before. When I get enslaved it seems like there's a chance that the things I'm wearing are duplicated. It's just happened now for the second time. I got the on-screen message that my armour, boots and a few of the accessories I have were being "added" while I was going through the strip animation. When I then checked my owner's inventory in pickpocket/sneak mode, she had two of each of those things.

 

It's not doing it with everything. This time it was the torso armour, boots and three out of the four pouches I wear from the bandoliers mod, but not anything else I had equipped. The previous time it was armour, either boots or bracers (can't remember which) and a piercing I had in a delicate area.  I didn't have any of the bandolier stuff back then.

 

I noticed that as well.

 

It is a bug with the way objects transfer is handled. One more thing to fix sometimes...

[Taharka]

Hey all,

Love the mod, but it doesn't seem to be working for me, and I was hoping someone would have ideas on how to fix it.

I can start the mod and get enslaved, no problem. Enslavement with the Spriggan works as well.

 

However, after getting enslaved, some things don't work. I can offer to earn money for my captor, but that never goes anywhere (no quests to go get money from a person per the description).

Also, if I steal the key or pay off my slavery with items, housekeeping immediately adds the cuffs back, and I can't get free.

In addition, my slaver never goes anywhere or does anything. Just mills about Un the same spot. They never sell me, either, which I thought they were supposed to do.

 

So basically, once I'm enslaved, I can never get free.

 

Animations work great, and I'd love to keep this mod, but right now I can't get free, which brings my game to a halt.

 

Any thoughts?

[Slorm]

Quick question, do we still need to use the SD1 patch listed on Devious Devices Integrated?

[hydragorgon]

from Taharka

 

Hey all,

Love the mod, but it doesn't seem to be working for me, and I was hoping someone would have ideas on how to fix it.

I can start the mod and get enslaved, no problem. Enslavement with the Spriggan works as well.

 

However, after getting enslaved, some things don't work. I can offer to earn money for my captor, but that never goes anywhere (no quests to go get money from a person per the description).

Also, if I steal the key or pay off my slavery with items, housekeeping immediately adds the cuffs back, and I can't get free.

In addition, my slaver never goes anywhere or does anything. Just mills about Un the same spot. They never sell me, either, which I thought they were supposed to do.

 

So basically, once I'm enslaved, I can never get free.

 

Animations work great, and I'd love to keep this mod, but right now I can't get free, which brings my game to a halt.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I'm just now testing the new SD_114, but I recommend you make beeline for freedom as soon as your master is asleep.  Find a random city guard and they will help you escape you bindings.  If it's really gamebreaking just use the console command coc whiterunexterior01 and you'll be teleported right outside whiterun.  after maybe 5 minutes you should be able to escape.

 

from derekslorm

 

Quick question, do we still need to use the SD1 patch listed on Devious Devices Integrated?

I've been using the SD1 patch for quite awhile, and I recommend it.  It makes escaping harder for sure.  Since I'm just trying out this new release version of SD+, I can't tell you the DD patch is bug free.  So far it's working fine.  So the long and short of it is SD+DD patch not required, but a good addition for sure.

 

 

hydra

[ToWannaLive]

 

The triggers for the hired thugs quest are from the old thread Sanguine's Debauchery, now locked. I've been trying to get that quest to trigger so recently found this but I have no idea if it still applies:

 

 

 

The Thug's never come after me.

The thug quest ( WIAddItem03 ) is the 3rd in the series of four related quests. They must be preformed and completed in sequence before they are cycled through again. There is a 48 hour wait ( game time ) between quest completion before the next quest will start.

 

1.WIAddItem01 - "Did you find something good?" = Picking up an item and an NPC says something like "Hope nobody misses that...", "That was just lying around? Good find.", etc..

2.WIAddItem02 - Rummaging through trash = Scrounging around taking things like cabbages out of barrels and containers.

3.WIAddItem03 - Steal, Thugs hunt player = Stealing or pick-pocketing items from NPC's with a neutral or worse relationship. You don't have to get caught doing it.

4.WIAddItem07 - Buy Dwarven artifact = Buying dwarven armor or weapons and getting a note from Calcelmo saying he's interested in acquiring it.

 

 

I see.

 

I never got to the Dwarven part.

 

At #3, Thugs are sent after the player. That's enough to get the thugs that will play nice with SD+. The Dwarven items part is not necessary to trigger the thugs.

 

I didn't know the right sequence but I do routinely look in the trash, pick up objects laying around and steal occasionally.

 

I will see if I can force the thugs to trigger artificially if you escape enslavement (maybe based on how you end up escaping).

 

 

You know what? I'm wondering if I misinterpreted the part about the thugs quest being the 3rd part of a series of related quests that must be performed in sequence. If the Spriggan quest is #2 and I'm not getting that one to work either, it may be because of the sequence requirement...if that's still even valid. Just throwing this out there in case it helps when you're tracking down problems. Thanks for working on this mod.

 

Edit: I should clarify that I'm still using SD+113. It didn't seem as if the new version had Spriggan fixes so I haven't updated yet.

 

[rypley]

Hello, congratulations for your mod that brings more to the older version of SD. 

 

everything works fine except the animation "whipping" does not work

[MallaVelve]

1.  Strange message after reloading a 1hr earlier save = SD+ is Updating to v1.12 (verbiage not exact) flashed to fast for me to get a good read.

 

2. Enslavement, Halted Steam Mine, Owner bandit Chief, 2 other bandits.  (Also object of WR Quest Armans fathers Sword)

 

Raped shortly after enslavement by owner.  Asked Owner for cloths: Got choice, took black robes.  

2 hrs in (game time=20) Nothing else has happened....just follow Owner around mine.  I get  "Collar weighs heavy on you".  At random time intervals.

3 hrs in  I ask for a drink.  I get a choice.

3-4 hrs in  Ask female bandit if she wants company.  Reply "A little coin always greases the wheel" <--- (Strange response in my opinion)  Then F bandit bends at waist, hands in bound position at back, and stays like that.  (did not try to interact w/her) No further action.

4-5 hrs in  Tried "Shall I dance for you?" with male bandit.  Animation, Whore Que, end Masterbation, all worked. (brought F bandit out of bent/binder position)

9 hrs in  Asked to work for Owner.  Indentured servant.  hands unbound.  Not sure how to make this work.  I run around picking up anything I can, he wants none of it.  

 

 

Tried talking to him again  got Please option, chose it , he gets mad decides to whip. Animation never starts, Scrip messages play normally.  Punishment ends.

 

At this point I,(Me personally) was tired so I decided to kill them.  Since I had picked up armor and weapons I attacked and eventually killed them all.  Owners key removes  collar but not wrists / ankles, though i can move about freely.

 

Had my character sleep to recover from wounds.  

Sanguine's Realm; chest / pants slots striped. 

Ring gag placed on. Hands bound, go to Sanguine, run through all dialog options till Let me go!  He does.  1 hr (in game passed) still need sleep so do so. Repeat above, get back, sleep, wake up normally.  Head to WR ask guard to help with chains, he obliges.  (No denying your Thain)

 

EDIT: Using v1.14 in case that was not Obvious.

[MallaVelve]

Also, I am unsure if this is intended behavior, and several things might be happening.  Started in WR after enslavement and had Araman say "You should probably get dressed before leaving the house".  Then he rapes my char.  As above I have had 2 visits to sanguines realm, back to back.  1 enslavement.  Was wearing full outfit. 

Sex scene did not remove Khanatu's Panties.

 

 

As you can see Torso, pants areas are not considered naked.  

I think Sanguines influence may be firing a bit early.  If that is what caused this.

 

EDIT: Also noticed I have to go through and Re-equip everything to make sure the enchantment effects re-apply.  (most noticeable on high heels)  Some equipment pieces do not automatically re-equip after sex.  Granted at times I do have 12 + or - items to re-equip.

She is a Nord, I just like the wings and horns, in regards to "Angrim's Apprentice"

 

[OH1972]

Still keep having issues with faction switches: When I pickpocket the Master key from an owner, the PC is free, but the owner still sees her as a friendly. 

Alternatively, when I fast-forward to being sold ("Are we there yet?"), ownership transfers, but the hired thugs immediately go aggro and start rounding up the tower.

 

Other problems I have observed: During the march, the hired thug owner will attack anything in sight, including wildlife. This will regularly trigger an escape sequence as he will invariably run after man or beast faster than you can follow, only for him to get p***ed in the end for your "escape" attempt.

 

Also, I have seen the escape sequence being triggered several times during the first rape scene after enslavement.

 

Also, after finishing the Spriggan quest with another character, I continued to observe the Spriggan host effect on surroundings for a while, but also the prompts about sap in my veins etc.

[rypley]

I have another bug, after having been a slave, escape myself, found a guard to take away my chains, enslaved the quest has been disabled in my journal. 

But nobody can take me into slavery, they do not kill me but still has hit me while I'm in a submissive position.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

I have another bug, after having been a slave, escape myself, found a guard to take away my chains, enslaved the quest has been disabled in my journal. 

But nobody can take me into slavery, they do not kill me but still has hit me while I'm in a submissive position.

 

 

You now have two options to submit to friendly NPCs.

 

- If the enslaved quest is still on after you escape, only NPCs with low morality will agree to take you in.

 

- If the enslaved quest is off after you escape (and you are still bound), friendly NPCs will agree to take you in after 10 visits to Dreamworld, to show the influence of Sanguine on the way others perceive you.

[xboronx]

 

- If the enslaved quest is off after you escape (and you are still bound), friendly NPCs will agree to take you in after 10 visits to Dreamworld, to show the influence of Sanguine on the way others perceive you.

 

 

Thank you very much for this especially and the update in general .

 

I have done a thread search but didn't find much, but in one version you also had a female sanguine variant.

Is this still in and what influences if Sanguine decides to go male or female?

 

I ask also because i have an uncommon suggestion:

Maybe Sanguine could have sometimes a submissive mood too, and an indication would be his current form. If his form is of the same gender as his slave he might offer the player to dominate him for his amusement, and eventually he'll switch form again and say something like:"Thanks my little pet, this was actually quite inspiring, you gave me some new ideas how to play with you" and do something very nasty to you next time you visit him again.

 

 

And one more question out of curiosity:

Do you have any plans to eventually include an optional very difficult quest in which you can try to trick sanguine and become his master?

Either via help from another daedra or maybe a plot you make together with Ali? Probably you would get tricked afterwards by your ally and end up in a situation worse then before . Or maybe in the "Kerrigan" Addon.

 

 

[Adam Jensen]

The quest marker for Payback's a bitch seems to have glitched up for me, so I was wondering, which places are usually the hideout for the hired thugs?

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

- If the enslaved quest is off after you escape (and you are still bound), friendly NPCs will agree to take you in after 10 visits to Dreamworld, to show the influence of Sanguine on the way others perceive you.

 

 

Thank you very much for this especially and the update in general .

 

I have done a thread search but didn't find much, but in one version you also had a female sanguine variant.

Is this still in and what influences if Sanguine decides to go male or female?

 

I ask also because i have an uncommon suggestion:

Maybe Sanguine could have sometimes a submissive mood too, and an indication would be his current form. If his form is of the same gender as his slave he might offer the player to dominate him for his amusement, and eventually he'll switch form again and say something like:"Thanks my little pet, this was actually quite inspiring, you gave me some new ideas how to play with you" and do something very nasty to you next time you visit him again.

 

 

And one more question out of curiosity:

Do you have any plans to eventually include an optional very difficult quest in which you can try to trick sanguine and become his master?

Either via help from another daedra or maybe a plot you make together with Ali? Probably you would get tricked afterwards by your ally and end up in a situation worse then before . Or maybe in the "Kerrigan" Addon.

 

 

All good ideas but I will have to keep them on the back burner until I make progress fixing issues. They are planned though

 

The female Sanguine appears when you have a male PC with strict opposite gender preferences.

I like the idea of adding variations in his/her appearance and making Sanguine submissive could be interesting.

 

I would like to do a quest to have actually Sanguine as a master follower with his own agenda and daedric unpredictability.

If I make him submissive, it will be only temporary and on his terms. He is a daedric lord after all.

 

The quest marker for Payback's a bitch seems to have glitched up for me, so I was wondering, which places are usually the hideout for the hired thugs?

 

Missing quest markers are usually a sign the thugs took a ride to.... Solstheim

[Adam Jensen]

No it's not that it's missing. It's that the marker remains on Mist Watch.

[DeepBlueFrog]

No it's not that it's missing. It's that the marker remains on Mist Watch.

 

Then I'm afraid something got messed up and you should reload a game before getting to Mistwatch.

[xboronx]

 

All good ideas but I will have to keep them on the back burner until I make progress fixing issues. They are planned though

 

The female Sanguine appears when you have a male PC with strict opposite gender preferences.

I like the idea of adding variations in his/her appearance and making Sanguine submissive could be interesting.

 

I would like to do a quest to have actually Sanguine as a master follower with his own agenda and daedric unpredictability.

If I make him submissive, it will be only temporary and on his terms. He is a daedric lord after all.

 

Yes that's the idea, he would be occasionally submissive to further humiliate you. At least if you are too rough to him, then you would surely get a 10fold payback later.

If you would dom him softly he might even be briefly nice, a small soupcon of daedric love .

 

As you say it would make him more unpredictable. Maybe he could even occasionally do even further shapeshifting and watch your actions hiding in the body of one of the slaves in his plane. At least he can easily adapt human forms, as in the "a night to remember" quest as Sam Guevenne.

 

Imho this might make a good quest as master follower if you would modify the "a night to remember quest" and let the player play it out a bit with sanguine as follower. Eventually you would fade out then and wake up in the temple of dibella as in vanilla, but discover some more crimes you have done while travelling with Sanguine.

So you would play the first 2-3 stations with Sanguine, where you drink, molest some NPCs etc., then blackout and wake up in the temple, and then discover some additional dirty deeds of your choice which Sanguine also did with you.

You might also wake up bound in the temple of dibella, the priestess asks you about your crimes, you remember nothing and then you get transferred to the Hall of the Vigilant for the vigilants of stendarr for further interrogation.

 

All just ideas/suggestions of course, i'm glad if they might inspire you.

 

 

 

 

Finally an unrelated question to all users: Do you use SD+ pure or with Submit or Defeat? I used it together with Submit until about a month ago, now instead with Defeat. With Defeat imho it works together much better than with Submit, i've set Defeat to kick in at 40-10% health, the result is that sometimes i manage to escape after round 1 or 2, sometimes i get enslaved. This way it feels very immersive imho, not every lost battle results in enslavement, but the danger of enslavement is always present. With wear&tear you are further slowed down when you reach the threshhold, so if you don't escape after round 1/2 then enslavement is almost guaranteed.

 

 

 

[Adam Jensen]

Good thing I saved! Anyway, thanks!