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Posted

is the chain on the pillar in the Dreamworld itentionally bringing you to the brewery or do i have a modconflict somewhere? if i remember from the original it should activate some device?

 

and i have also the problem of the sanguine artifact not working(i have it on in the dreamworld and working, but it vanishes and the "buff" when i use the send me back or the chain)

one little thing if using the chain (and its not a bug), can you let us spawn with how the char looks like and got equipped in the dreamworld? else forget the idea.

 

The chain on the pillar sends you always to the same place in the meadery. It's a backup system in case the other teleport from Sanguine doesn't work.

 

Eventually, Sanguine will send you in a range of places. Right now, he sends you back to were you died... except that sometimes, it is not possible to save a marker where you die (say if you are blaster off in the air by a dragon or a giant).

 

The sanguine artifact should be visible only in the dreamworld. It's effect should still be happening outside but that 's a new feature so it is possible it is not fully functional yet.

 

I could make the dreamworld outfit persist if needed. It is cleaned up when you teleport back but I could disable that.

 

 

I searched the post as well as a google search but i cant find an answer. I noticed that after updating my system (ie latest sexlab framework, latest FNIS, And so on) That now when I run this mod I lose the Dance dialog when talking to npc's in game. Has anyone had this same issue?. I was also using SkyRe but I was getting ctd's like crazy when I was using SD+ with it. I got rid of SkyRe and did a full re-install of skyrim this morning adding the latest mods and all they required but I am still not getting the dance dialog. I also am not getting the necrophilia command on animals as well, and I don't have a clue to that either  but I still have more checking to do on that. 

 

I have Tes5Edit cleaned my masters as well as a few mods with dirty edits. here is my mod list in order.

 

 

  Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
GeneralStores.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Xvision Children.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Xvision Children - Complete.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
Immersive Battles.esp
Immersive Brigands.esp
Immersive Dawnguard.esp
Immersive Dragonborn.esp
Immersive Factions.esp
Immersive Mercenaries.esp
Immersive Patrols.esp
Immersive Travelers.esp
Immersive Werewolves.esp
more plants all extra.esp
PocketMoney.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SkyUI.esp
Devious Devices - Integration.esp
FlameAtronachArmor.esp
FullBootForKKSA.esp
NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp
TCOSS.esp
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
zarias_restraints.esp
Aspen Manor.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
DeviousRegulations.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
homes remodeled.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp
SDpatch - dragonborn.esp
SDpatch - frostfall.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
Book Covers Dragonborn.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations-DG.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations-DB.esp
ImmersiveFP.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp
SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
Weathered Road Signs.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers - Brighter Nights.esp
RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
Skyrim Unbound.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
EB-Piercings.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
ElderOutfit.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Domni.esp
VisibleStandingStones.esp
SimplePregnancy.esp
Devious Loading Screens.esp

 
Also I have run FNIS for Users. I have the most current SKSE. Any incite would be nice thanks.

 

 

The Dance option was removed outside of slavery. You should be able to use the dance spell though.. I could restore that also if needed. I thought it would fit better as part of slavery as opposed to an option that is visible all the time.

 

So with my insomnia I've had the time to test this quite a bit ! I think the compatibility patch between sexlab submit and Sanguine Debauchery is broken now with SD+ so i removed it, and disabled Submit when I wanted to be enslaved. Then I tried being enslaved by the Briarheart Forsworn in Cuadach's Redoubt, at level 1 since I chose the 5th option from "Live a Deviant Life". I'm not sure what the hell happened with the blindfold and all, but from what I understood, the slave collar from Devious Devices conflicts with SD+'s collar, means you don't get enslaved if you don't wear this one. So there's that. Then I restarted the game, restarted sanguine, rechose the 5th option, got teleported to the Reach again, finished the Live a Deviant life stuff to get freed, then went back to the Redoubt fully naked. 

 

I got enslaved like normal, the owner got my stuff, raped me once, then whipped me too (I was just like, on my knees tho, was there sopposed to be a Zaz animation playing at this moment ?), anyway, I was thinking this was working just fine, but then ... I said oh Lord Jesus it's a fire !  Two forsworn pillagers who where in the cave, just sleeping, woke up then proceeded to beat the CRAP out of me with fire spells, and my owner was like, running in circles shouting "Help meeeeeee". Then I ran out, I didn't grab no shoes or nothin' Jesus, I ran for my life. Except SkyRe trolled me, and somehow one of the Forsworn found a fireball parchment somewhere in his pocket, and made me fly accross the cell. Then I got enslaved again, except this time the forsworn pillager was my owner... And the Briarheart that was my last owner didn't like that very much, so he killed us all. So, I should've been enslaved a third time, and I don't know if I was, since I got a CTD.. 

 

In short I got a problem with factions, I'm not integrated into my owner's faction when I'm enslaved. Instead, my owner becomes a friendly NPC that you can find in cities, so his buddies always try to kick to crap out of us. 

 

Compatibility with Devious Devices is very new and not well tested. I spent too much time on scenes issues and didn't have time to check the Devices out yet.

 

I would like more feedback on faction issues. That doesn't seem to be happening all the time.

 

I did get some issue with brawling, but they turned out to be from the brawling option from Lover's Victim. 

Posted

I have a little frustrating problem.

 

When i try to save after being enslaved ,no matter what faction enslave me, my game always CTD.

 

I tried clean the edits and manage the masterlist but the problem persist.

 

Anyone have my same pproblem?

 

PS: sry for bad english 

Posted

Graurion,

are you using the auto-tfc option from sexlab? Don't do that!

didn't test the newest SD+ versions yet, but did you try saving via console, too (for example: save Enslaved1)? That's fixing a lot of crashes after save for me.

Posted

 

 

Got CTD so I decided to drop by

 

Only tried the Falmer, was going to try with people & the I Need the Strong Hand to Guide Me & Sanguine's realm but CTD first so here's what happened.

 

After the falmer said "Na Buroi Chok" my char's hands are freed, no idea what's supposed to happened, whipping? Maybe it conflicted when after the falmer said that & her demerit instantly decreased by 2 on it's own? But after that, before sex happened, she'll be put into random bondage poses like hogtie & tied to the floor. But for a while before that happened, she won't kneel, & her demerit was about -3 at the time? The random bondage poses came about -15 or so. The falmer master seems to be trusting this time around, he didn't follow her at all, so my char. just literally walk out off the cave, even the cave spiders just lets her go. I can see the Coveted issue was fixed, but again, I got CTD first before I could test them any further, but while my char. is in the falmer cave, no other falmers would do anything to her. Oh by the way, after her hands are freed, she can access her inventory, spells, maps, everything.

 

 

You seem to be having CTDs when sexlab scenes kick in. Is SexLab working for other plugins for you? 

 

Make sure you have the latest version of FNIS and SexLab, Run the FNIS utility to generate behaviors and look for warnings.

And if you want to use Falmers, make sure you also install FNIS for creatures and enable Creature animations in SexLab.

 

 

Hard to say, SD always gives me CTD since forever. I'm pretty sure FNIS is up to date (4.1.1) & I am very sure I have creature add on & update FNIS tool before trying your mod out. Tried Submit few days ago (7/1) & it works fine though.

Posted

Tried the newest update, only issue is that either dance scene or being asked if I want to use the bed causes me to crash and then need to force log off to be able to do shit again. I say either because I have no idea which one it is. The scenes work fine when they actually happen, but after the dance animation ends and it asks if I want to use the nearby bed, whichever one I click ends up making me crash.


 


EDIT:Ok, it either fixed itself, or the problem was with the bed. Either way, moving as far away from the bed as I could seemed to resolve it. Other than this though, the mods been working more or less perfectly for me. Very few problems overall, and the problems that DO happen occasionally don't make it unplayable, which is awesome.


Posted

Graurion,

are you using the auto-tfc option from sexlab? Don't do that!

didn't test the newest SD+ versions yet, but did you try saving via console, too (for example: save Enslaved1)? That's fixing a lot of crashes after save for me.

 

I toggle off the tfc and now all forks fine.

 

Thx a lot!!

Posted

OK this is working beautifully. Lots more stable than the latest release of the original SD. There are only a few hiccups every now and then, but I can't remember them because I've been drinkin'. A word of advice: tame the visuals thingys in the dreamworld; it's hard on the eyes, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so. Other than that, GJ. You have become just as epic as Jbezorg.

Posted

Scenes don't work from Zan's Animations. #1 priority right there in my opinion, even if it's half broken. I do like fluid gameplay still, and right now I feel like I'm better off using sexlab defeat which basically gives me a second chance if I was going to die because I still have a chance to use a healing spell or potions etc. If sanguine's mod is going to give invincibility then the animations are 100% priority for immersion to support that reason. Other than that very nice mod, if only for the fact that it's compatible with all the updated mods I'm using.

Posted

Quick question passing through, the spriggan host armor, does it have a bodyslide version ? 'cause, well, I just saw a body somewhere with the full armor and decided to try it, it's amazingly cool, but it makes my character shrink to puny UNP proportions ahaha 

Posted

Quick question passing through, the spriggan host armor, does it have a bodyslide version ? 'cause, well, I just saw a body somewhere with the full armor and decided to try it, it's amazingly cool, but it makes my character shrink to puny UNP proportions ahaha 

 

I don't know if there is a bodyslide version... if you find one or if someone wants to make one, I would he happy to include it for the CBBE version of the armor (or as an optional download).

Posted

ahhh okay did not know it was removed from non enslaved status. that would explain why it was working but now is not lol. thanks for reply. now to figure out why necrophilia does not work on creatures anymore

Posted

Did the quest 'A Night to Remember' and went to Sanguine's Dreamworld, but everything was the same. Weren't there supposed to be some changes there?

 

It is a different dreamworld than the one used for that quest.

 

The layout is the same - just a separate world - one of the thousands worlds Sanguine is supposed to have.

Posted

I have a problem with the phrase "think you might be in the wrong place, friend" being said by NPCs then the rape commences. This happens everywhere, and even my horse rapes my char.

 

Is there a way to turn it off?

Posted

 

I was wondering if anyone can help me here I know you can change your enslavement clothes by editing _sda_ and _sdaa_ armor for your respective body type but I am trying to add more clothes to be equipped instead of one item, but nothing I try to do works I figure it has something to do with the enslavement quest in the CK but I am not exactly sure what to do.

 

Anyway this is by far way out in left field but if you wanna help me I would love you forever.

 

If you are doing it directly in the editor, you will have to do it again next time I release an update.

 

I could set up an easy way to add more diversity to the outfits, but they would probably be a random draw from a list.

 

The more difficult thing will be to define conditions to assign certain outfits to (factions, indoor, outdoor). I will have to think more about how to approach that.

 

I was putting off bringing this up, because it also relates to aesthetics rather than mechanics, which is of prime importance.

 

With the original SD mod, I switched the transparent lavender labia rings for the original gold ones from Zaria's restraints. I do this by unpacking the SD bsa, taking the "labia16rings_1" mesh from Zaria's, rename it "sanguinesdb," and overwrite the SD mesh. However, when I try it after installing SD+, the rings disappear from view, though they remain in inventory. Does this have something to do with the slot change, or is it something else that's beyond my ability to grasp? How do I make the switch with SD+?

 

I know there are more important issues for you to address, so whenever you can get around to addressing my confusion is fine.

 

Regards.

Posted

Well, dunno if this has been adressed, about the dying and to be teleported to sanguine dreamworld, I use the mod "your money or your life" that triggers diverse fates for the player, SD+ of course and defeat XD i was having the issue of being teleported to dreamworld and multiple quests trigering in the same moment, i found a solution, playe with the theresolds:

 

your money or your life-40% of negative health

SD+                              -between 0 and 2 of negative bufer

Sexlab defeat               - between 5 and 20% of normal health

 

so when u take damage, the defeat can be trigered if damage causes the drop in the adressed range, it go beyond that and falls on sanguine field u can be enslaved, if u keep taking damage (a wolf, troll, bandit or warever) Your money or your life triggers the random quest tweaked there, if the damage was soooo huge u will die and go to sanguine arms, this my tweak, hope someone find it useful.

 

 

Skyrimll: I know u haven touched the follower side, but a little resume about the issues with it, if u get enslaved, all the sorrounding enemies, but your owner arent enemies of your standing follower, but instead atack the follower, your owner begin the sex escene, enough time to take him down sometimes and be freed from the chains, hope u can take a look onto it, could be super awesome, thnx for this tweaked jewel.

Posted

I have a little frustrating problem.

 

When i try to save after being enslaved ,no matter what faction enslave me, my game always CTD.

 

I tried clean the edits and manage the masterlist but the problem persist.

 

Anyone have my same pproblem?

 

PS: sry for bad english 

 

Same thing happens to me it seems to CTD after sex I think it may be contributed to the sperm effects on your character because after I wait until the effects are gone saving it then becomes no problem.

Posted

 

I was putting off bringing this up, because it also relates to aesthetics rather than mechanics, which is of prime importance.

 

With the original SD mod, I switched the transparent lavender labia rings for the original gold ones from Zaria's restraints. I do this by unpacking the SD bsa, taking the "labia16rings_1" mesh from Zaria's, rename it "sanguinesdb," and overwrite the SD mesh. However, when I try it after installing SD+, the rings disappear from view, though they remain in inventory. Does this have something to do with the slot change, or is it something else that's beyond my ability to grasp? How do I make the switch with SD+?

 

I know there are more important issues for you to address, so whenever you can get around to addressing my confusion is fine.

 

Regards.

 

 

Yes it has to do with slot change and I'll explain it or try:

 

1.) open up original sanguinedb mesh in NifSkope

2.) You can find the bodyslot it is occupying in the "NiTriShape" tree expand that you'll find "BSDismemberSkinInstance" click on it.

3.) Now below in the "Block Details" window you'll see "Partitions" expand that twice until you locate "Body Part" 

4.) Now you'll see in the "Value" section of the "Body Part" it will say the slot number and in this instance is "SBP_54_MOD_LEG_LEFT" so now we know that the SD is using this slot for the Labia Ring so we need to change "labia16rings_1" mesh to this number and how you do that is double click "Body Part" and you'll be able to rename it and instead of typing that whole thing all you need to do is delete selection and type "54" and it will fill in the rest.

 

Remember there can be multiple BSDIismemberSkinInstance values so remember to edit them all and you'll find them like always in the NiTriShape tree's.

 

Hope that helps.

Posted

As I am working on better integration with Devious Devices, it is becoming painfully obvious that SD+ could use these devices directly.

 

So my obvious question is: what would be the downside to making Devious Devices assets a requirement for SD+? 

 
Posted

As I am working on better integration with Devious Devices, it is becoming painfully obvious that SD+ could use these devices directly.

 

So my obvious question is: what would be the downside to making Devious Devices assets a requirement for SD+? 

 

absolutely none for me but for those people who are running close to their ESP limit it might be a problem.

Posted

My plan for now is to have an optional add on for SD and DD compatibility, like we already have with Frostfall.... but that will limit what we can do with the devices unless I can think of a workaround, maybe using PapyrusUtil as a requirement instead (no esp :) and already used by SexLab).

Posted

 

 

 

- Response to nudity will be gradual once you visit Sanguine's realm

 

How does that work? Is this some sort of Queststage?

Because in my current save, nude comments seem to be not working anymore. I don't know why. Even Sanguine ignores it, heh. If theres  setstage command, I could try, that'd be cool, otherwise, I'll remake that toon and hope it will be okay with a new game.

 

 

It's controlled with a global variable.

 

Look for:  help _sd_sanguine_blessing

 

Under 5, only one or 2 type of people assault you with naked comment (hate rape is still happening).

 

Is the feature where the master doesn't like the way you look still a thing or was it scrapped? or is it just one of the things that's broken right now?  Just curious as I haven't been able to get it to happen.

 

It is still there, but I reduced the chance of it happening and only on 'passive' right now. Maybe I should put it back on 'anger' as well.

 

Yea that might be a good idea as I spent about an hour trying to get the master to choose that option and it never happened :P

Posted

My plan for now is to have an optional add on for SD and DD compatibility, like we already have with Frostfall.... but that will limit what we can do with the devices unless I can think of a workaround, maybe using PapyrusUtil as a requirement instead (no esp :) and already used by SexLab).

Feel free to PM me if you need any help/additions with/for the compatibility patch. I think there's quite a bit of thematical synergy between our mods :)

 

Also, if you're going to take that approach, you should probably merge the compatibility patch I made. Fixes an incompatibility between SD's bindings and DD's: http://www.loverslab.com/files/getdownload/61520-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-01082014/

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