DeepBlueFrog Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 That reminds me. Most of the changes I made to the latest version are around preventing scenes overlap. One way to do that was by adding a cooldown to the 'Master?' dialogue. You will have to wait a few minutes between attempts otherwise you can end up spamming the scenes system. That's also a temporary measure until I put better blocking behaviors in place. The unsteadiness of the NPCs at the beginning of scenes is due to the removal of automatic AI controlled walk to the same spot before the scene can start. That too may come back later. I wanted to remove sources of situations where the player ends up under AI control and stuck in place for long periods of time. At first I removed the scene light, but I ended up adding it back as a visual clue that a scene is running (or not) and a reminder you should maybe not start another one. I also left quite a few debug messages. Sorry for the spam... it will be gone once the whole thing is more stable. . To be honest putting a cool down on master interactions makes perfect sense in regards to the mod as a whole and not just as a temporary fix, currentHQ5:ly it's far to easy to spam passive or even agreessive comments to have your demerits at high figures within a few minutes especially if you fast forward the scenes Regardless good work so far and keep it up I am thinking of adding penalties for nagging your Master once we finally have a more stable version. It would make sense to track time of last request and frequency of requests so that your Master can be annoyed, furious or happy with you.
Azn Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 The replacement for the Sanguine's Artifact is awesome! I honestly keep getting surprised by the people who jump me out of nowhere! This is the funniest thing thats happened so far though: http://img.3ezy.net/a1/a_d0a006478ced2_800.jpg I have no idea how this happened, but it's hilarious! (sorry for poor quality, had to act fast to take a screenshot)
elfenlieds6 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Still don't see any ZAZ animations, is there any mistake i've made to update or it's planned? I had to turn them off again until I can fix the torture scenes. The mods currently has two issues with Zaz animations played in scenes - the scenes themselves start but play only for less than a second and the Zaz animations are sometimes incomplete or do not play at all (they play just fine from script, not from scenes). So they will be back eventually. zaz was working fine in original SD on my box, don't know if there's any new features added in SD+ causing these issues, but probably some delta testing may help (slightly adding a small piece of new features in SD+ until there's an error in running zaz). I'm not an expert, ignore my suggestions if you've considered this, just wonna help a little bit hopefully...
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 Still don't see any ZAZ animations, is there any mistake i've made to update or it's planned? I had to turn them off again until I can fix the torture scenes. The mods currently has two issues with Zaz animations played in scenes - the scenes themselves start but play only for less than a second and the Zaz animations are sometimes incomplete or do not play at all (they play just fine from script, not from scenes). So they will be back eventually. zaz was working fine in original SD on my box, don't know if there's any new features added in SD+ causing these issues, but probably some delta testing may help (slightly adding a small piece of new features in SD+ until there's an error in running zaz). I'm not an expert, ignore my suggestions if you've considered this, just wonna help a little bit hopefully... At this point there are to many changes to do delta testing in any reliable way - even if CK editor had a good diff editor... which it doesn't
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 First of all, thanks for your updates! Now... i've recently downloaded skyrim again cause i felt like replaying it. Sadly i seem to be stuck in this problem where no sex animations happen. I tried the "original" SD and punishments were working just fine, in fact everything seemed to work just perfect except for the sex scenes. I tried reinstalling every mod, tried on clean saves, and mostly tried this enhanced version in hopes of fixing this issue but it seems no matter what i do, the problem is still there. I tried testing Sexlab to see if it was a problem with it, but it gave me no problems. Then i tried adding another mod, sexaddicts, and that one also worked without problems, so my only guess is that there is something im doing wrong when it comes to this specific mod... and its blowing my mind xD. So in summary, whenever a sex scene is meant to happen, nothing happens at all. Sometimes a ">>" appears on the top right, and sometimes i get a _sdqs_ message on the top left saying the scene could not start. Is there a specific order i have to put the mods? Also the dance spells seem to not be working at all, when i use it i get this weird dizzy effect but thats about it, though when i use the dance dialogue on an NPC.. that seems to work just fine sorry for the wall of text Update: I reinstalled SD+ and now when i try to use the dance spell on someone it says [_sdqs_snp] receiving scene = 7 [dance] phase = 0 [dance] phase = 2 [dance] phase = 3 [_sdqs_snp] Scene timeout the dance never happens though the npc claps for a few seconds i really dont know where i am failing anymore XD Did you check the requirements for SD? Make sure you have FNIS updated and working. I will have to check if SD is making use of custom animations or if is it using default files from FNIS.
KiyumiAi Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 First of all, thanks for your updates! (...) sorry for the wall of text Update: I reinstalled SD+ and now when i try to use the dance spell on someone it says [_sdqs_snp] receiving scene = 7 [dance] phase = 0 [dance] phase = 2 [dance] phase = 3 [_sdqs_snp] Scene timeout the dance never happens though the npc claps for a few seconds i really dont know where i am failing anymore XD Did you check the requirements for SD? Make sure you have FNIS updated and working. I will have to check if SD is making use of custom animations or if is it using default files from FNIS. Yup i double checked everything and i have all the requirements, sexlabs, zaz animations, i have FNIS V4.1.1 though in the requirements it says v4.0 do you think the issue comes from there? I got the suggested skeletons and cbbe bodies. Its weird cause everything seems to work except for the sex scenes, though after updating to yours, the sex scenes keep "timing out" it would go like: [sex] Receiving scene: [x] [sex] phase = 1 etc until a scene timeout. The npcs never do anything.
hush2u2 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Hi, I'm a lurker! Before anything else: this is amazing, just completely amazing! You're a star...or a wizard...or a star wizard - whatever! Basically everything about this is incredible and amazing! Anyhow, since I don't know a think about anything I came with a couple of things that are happening to me which MIGHT not suppose to happen but I'm not sure so I'm asking: Thing 1 - Sanguine's realm. For one thing, after my first enslavement/release I get teleported there EVERY time I sleep. Every time it happens Sanguine is a) naked like the day he was born and his body is bright red and /b) he completely ignores me. Sometimes something happens when I talk to him - he says I'm in a wrong place and a sex scene happens. I *think* that's hate-rape, but it's a non-aggressive animation so I don't know. Nothing else happens - I can talk to him, choosing same dialogue lines several times until he runs out of things to say and then I ask him to let me go and he does. Oh, and I never get the artifact. I still don't have it and enslavement happened several times so far. Thing 2 - I get one incorrigible character freeze after 'scene 5' tries to play. I have no idea what that scene is, it tries to happen after both angry and passive options sometimes. Character kneels with the little light flashing under them for a bit and after that they freeze and no amount of SHIFT+END or any key + END does anything, reload is the only solution. I used to think that maybe this was the dance animation, but it keeps happening even after I turn off 'Gold for the Wicked'. Thing 3 - probably related to Thing 1, if Thing 1 is bugged. On near-death without enslavement chance I never get teleported to Sanguine. Character collapses, I get 'blinded by lust' messages, but the enemies just keep attacking until I die anyway. I read somewhere I should open the console to let the scripts catch up and things, but that didn't help. Thing 4 - Falmers won't enslave me, but I tried only once and that was before I went to Sanguine for the first time so maybe that's the problem? Those are my things, basically. Thing 1 is the one I'm worried about the most, it feels like it shouldn't work that way and it might be messing everything up. I have no other SexLab mods aside from SD and SD+ - I tried to install only SD+ but I got the messed up MCM. And also I started a new game with the mods installed and I don't have any other mods that mess with game scripts, just those that make people pretty and stuff. /End of whining Anyway, this patch is still my favorite thing ever right now! The current feature I like the most is the idea of a hate-rape, it just adds darkness to the whole faction thing - I love it to bits! If you're taking suggestions from random lurkers, I think a lot of interesting things can be added to this feature. Among other things your character could get drugged when resting in an unfriendly inn and have all sorts of bad things happen to them including rape, enslavement and near-death. Also the guards could detect the bad things and openly turn a blind eye to them. OR if you commit crimes in the unfriendly city bad things can happen to you in prison and so on. The feature I'm looking forward to the most is the master as dominant follower thing. I don't even know why I find that so amazing other than it lets me bring SD with me adventuring and that's awesome. I would love for the option that makes this sort of permanent(ish) - I'd just play Skyrim like that, I'm not even kidding. Anyway - sorry for the wall of text. I have a condition that prevents me from just being bloody concise. Also you're awesome, in case it wasn't clear I thought that.
Azn Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I have a tiny issue with Sanguines Realm. Just got into a fight with a mage, lost some health but not low enough to be enslaved or killed, and just as I'm looting the corpse, I get teleported to Sanguines Realm. That part doesn't bug me too much, the minor irritation comes from that I can't be sent back to the spot I just left. I had to pull the chain to actually escape, as asking Sanguine to let me leave just teleported me back to the enterance of his realm, just without bindings. The chain did send me to the meadery by Whiterun, so I'm not too far off from where I was abducted by a Daedra, but it's just a very minor irritation right now. Oh, and on one reload, I got enslaved and then ported to the realm. Caused a bit of a bug where the gag and shackle items just sort of spawned and piled up on the ground for about 30 seconds. Hopefully, this won't happen every time I get in a fight...
Para Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Would you make Sanguines Realm optional please? I only want to use the enslavement.
vandana.ghost Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Hello. I found a Spriggan matron, a flowering spriggan, and one of their pet cave bears. They beat me down, and I got the pop-up about roots crawling over my body. Upon clicking OK, I crash to desktop. Some details: 1) clean save, no conflicting mods that I'm aware of 2) I have "Coveted" activated, and right as they beat me to kneeling, one of them gives me the "coveted rape dialogue" line about me being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was the only weird thing, and might be (to these untrained eyes) the source of whatever conflict is causing the crash. 3) It doesn't seem to matter if I kill the bear and the matron and just get beat down by the flowering spriggan, she still gives the dialogue line from Coveted. 4) Once, I didn't get CTD, but that's because I never got the pop-up. Scene didn't start correctly, I was standing there, the spriggans were no longer aggro, the "Flowering Spriggan" quest started, and was checked in MCM, but I didn't have the armor, or any other change. Anyway, just some notes. Overall, it's a fairly stable build. I've managed to be captured by all sorts of things without major complications until now. Edit: Brand new character, managed to get the flowering spriggan quest, 1) Didn't activate Coveted 2) Was completely naked with no gear. I think one of the reasons I was crashing before was the attempt to strip gear? Gear was stripping for the root-rape when the pop-up happened prior to CTD, and I know you added gear-stripping to the Spriggan quest... just a random thought.
waxin Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Hello. I found a Spriggan matron, a flowering spriggan, and one of their pet cave bears. They beat me down, and I got the pop-up about roots crawling over my body. Upon clicking OK, I crash to desktop. Some details: 1) clean save, no conflicting mods that I'm aware of 2) I have "Coveted" activated, and right as they beat me to kneeling, one of them gives me the "coveted rape dialogue" line about me being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was the only weird thing, and might be (to these untrained eyes) the source of whatever conflict is causing the crash. 3) It doesn't seem to matter if I kill the bear and the matron and just get beat down by the flowering spriggan, she still gives the dialogue line from Coveted. 4) Once, I didn't get CTD, but that's because I never got the pop-up. Scene didn't start correctly, I was standing there, the spriggans were no longer aggro, the "Flowering Spriggan" quest started, and was checked in MCM, but I didn't have the armor, or any other change. Anyway, just some notes. Overall, it's a fairly stable build. I've managed to be captured by all sorts of things without major complications until now. Think I know this one... What skeleton are you using...should be a xp32 or something like that...else you will ctd on flowering spriggan
Lyman the Lunatic Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Broken But very enjoyable!!!!! So why I think it's broken. So Coveted will force rape to happen. This even happens to the master. I was trying to see if the falmer problem is fixed, I can't because the falmer kept saying something like "You're in the wrong place" which is the same thing other NPCs will say before he start raping & this happens during the conversation & because Sexlab is Sexlab keep removing my char. out of the animating faction so she'll just kneel there while her falmer master is humping the air. Now, coveted also ignoring sexual preferences, I always set to opposite only but while she's in Solitude, she's ONLY raped by women instead of men. But that I think might be an incompatibility with Populated Cities mod. What's the deal with "I need a strong hand to guide me" anyway? All it did was trying to start an Enslavement & didn't (if that makes any sense). So what happened was, Enslaved added to the journal, my char. gets raped by the NPC, rape is over, no master/slave interactions, just "I need a strong hand to guide me", the NPC still treat my char. like a normal NPC & the debug notification keep saying "Enslaved faction 0" during this. Sanguine's realm, high potential but ruined by how broken it is now. Again, my char. is raped by a Redguard Slave in the realm, Sanguine & Curio guy did nothing but just stood there. When talked to Sanguine, nothing happened, when ask to be return to Tamriel, Sanguine did sent my char back to Tamriel but she'll be sent back to the realm whenever she goes to bed. My char. can't even sleep, because the moment her head hits the pillow, it's Sanguine's realm for her, then she woke up. Since I have A Matter Of Time installed, she only got to sleep for 5 in game minutes. It doesn't matter if she wants to sleep till the morning, she'll get sent into Sanguine's realm & got to run all the way to Sanguine, asked to come back with a possibility that the Redguard will rape her (Sanguine raped her once by the way, but it's from a Coveted "You're in the wrong place" during the conversation so she woke up stucking in a sex position & she was thrown off the cell, lucky I tcl her or she'll be falling endlessly) woke up & see that she's only slept for 5 minutes! Not sure if it's a typing error or what, but while my char. was enslaved by a falmer, the other falmer walk pass her & this happens (the falmer gropes you as you walk by) Or it was intended for my char. to be the 1 moving? Oh & the other falmers doesn't seem to do anything at all. I also think the save word might not work because it didn't worked for me when I was trying to cancel the falmer enslavement. Just because it was enjoyable doesn't mean you don't have to fix it!
Polonium Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I am still having problems with the MCM and SD+, all the items in the MCM come out as string references. Edit: Sorry, I did not see that you had updated to 1.05d, I have only tested 1.05c and I'm hesitant to attemt again due to a bug unrelated to SD+.
DoubleCheeseburger Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 - Added shock and weakness effect to collar in case of escape. How do I get this effect? Seems to be not working for me. Without this effect escaping from master is too easy. Edit: It works, actually! But still I have no any penalties, but only shock visual effect.
Skyrimfloo Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Hmm. Another issue is the uninstalation. I tried to do it to see if a problem I recently got was caused by this mod. The mod was installed but not started, so I started it, then used uninstall, and I got taken to Sanguine's realm. Nobody there talked to me, so I used the other exit, and got taken somewhere near Whiterun. no matter how much I waited, I never got the message for the mod stopping, and in the options it said it was updating quests still. I really hope these things are fixed because I really wanna use this mod.
White Banshee Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 First of all, thanks for your updates! (...) sorry for the wall of text Update: I reinstalled SD+ and now when i try to use the dance spell on someone it says [_sdqs_snp] receiving scene = 7 [dance] phase = 0 [dance] phase = 2 [dance] phase = 3 [_sdqs_snp] Scene timeout the dance never happens though the npc claps for a few seconds i really dont know where i am failing anymore XD Did you check the requirements for SD? Make sure you have FNIS updated and working. I will have to check if SD is making use of custom animations or if is it using default files from FNIS. Yup i double checked everything and i have all the requirements, sexlabs, zaz animations, i have FNIS V4.1.1 though in the requirements it says v4.0 do you think the issue comes from there? I got the suggested skeletons and cbbe bodies. Its weird cause everything seems to work except for the sex scenes, though after updating to yours, the sex scenes keep "timing out" it would go like: [sex] Receiving scene: [x] [sex] phase = 1 etc until a scene timeout. The npcs never do anything. I have the same problem. I know nothing about modding so probably I'll say a montrosity, but I noticed that, by upgrading FNIS (4.1.1.), the mod is not in the list of FNIS registered mods. Could that be the issue?
DonQuiWho Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Just a quick word of thanks from someone who personally has no clue how to make these things, but is thankful that others do, and is patient enough to wait for the not so simply fixed hiccoughs to be sorted in due course! Keep going. And hope the RL work commitments are going OK
Lyman the Lunatic Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 So, the falmer enslavement is supposed to be the ultimate fate or something? I saw in the log that your char. will be asked to join after 3 days, that didn't happened. Also, all sex beside coveted are in Normal & not Aggressive. I'm also confused why there are features that... Maybe later.
windu190 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 A few problems I have since the last update: -The "do you have another task for me" dialogue does not appear, even though I have the right amount of demerits -Dance scene skipped issue (the same I had before the update) is still there.
Azn Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I have a tiny issue with Sanguines Realm. Just got into a fight with a mage, lost some health but not low enough to be enslaved or killed, and just as I'm looting the corpse, I get teleported to Sanguines Realm. That part doesn't bug me too much, the minor irritation comes from that I can't be sent back to the spot I just left. I had to pull the chain to actually escape, as asking Sanguine to let me leave just teleported me back to the enterance of his realm, just without bindings. The chain did send me to the meadery by Whiterun, so I'm not too far off from where I was abducted by a Daedra, but it's just a very minor irritation right now. Oh, and on one reload, I got enslaved and then ported to the realm. Caused a bit of a bug where the gag and shackle items just sort of spawned and piled up on the ground for about 30 seconds. Hopefully, this won't happen every time I get in a fight... Ok, I think I found what caused that, it seems like I had set the health percentage for enslavement a bit too high, considering my level, (30%) and the continuing fire damage AFTER the mage died lowered my health to that percent or lower and probably triggered the teleport. I set the percentage lower, and the teleport didn't happen after the fight this time. Turns out I just get the most bizzarre coincidences imaginable.
Storms of Superior Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Thanks I am still hoping someone with more experience with scenes and radiant stories will take pity of me, look at the scripts and scenes, and point the stupid mistake I must have made to keep them from running In the meantime, I will be looking for tutorials and videos so I can have a better shot at fixing this. From what I've read and the reactions I've seen, there are several talented and very helpful players who would be willing to lend a hand. Just ask them! We have some great people here in Skyrim. And to stroke your ego a little more, it's players like you and the others working on mods that keeps us playing skyrim. I think I can speak for us all? Yeah, Skyrim would be too boring to remember without such consequences. I just wish I was one of those guys with modding experience to be able to jump in.
vandana.ghost Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Hello. I found a Spriggan matron, a flowering spriggan, and one of their pet cave bears. They beat me down, and I got the pop-up about roots crawling over my body. Upon clicking OK, I crash to desktop. Some details: 1) clean save, no conflicting mods that I'm aware of 2) I have "Coveted" activated, and right as they beat me to kneeling, one of them gives me the "coveted rape dialogue" line about me being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was the only weird thing, and might be (to these untrained eyes) the source of whatever conflict is causing the crash. 3) It doesn't seem to matter if I kill the bear and the matron and just get beat down by the flowering spriggan, she still gives the dialogue line from Coveted. 4) Once, I didn't get CTD, but that's because I never got the pop-up. Scene didn't start correctly, I was standing there, the spriggans were no longer aggro, the "Flowering Spriggan" quest started, and was checked in MCM, but I didn't have the armor, or any other change. Anyway, just some notes. Overall, it's a fairly stable build. I've managed to be captured by all sorts of things without major complications until now. Think I know this one... What skeleton are you using...should be a xp32 or something like that...else you will ctd on flowering spriggan I'm using XP32 maximum skeleton. I managed to get the quest without crashing on a brand new character, without Coveted activated, with no gear or items whatsoever. I suspect the crash might have been the new gear-stripping functionality (release notes mention Spriggan quest will strip you of items as "incentive" but I'm not a modder, so this is just my best guess.
AwfulArchdemon Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Now, coveted also ignoring sexual preferences, I always set to opposite only but while she's in Solitude, she's ONLY raped by women instead of men. But that I think might be an incompatibility with Populated Cities mod. Agreed. Only women are responding to 'coveted'.
magnusx Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Now, coveted also ignoring sexual preferences, I always set to opposite only but while she's in Solitude, she's ONLY raped by women instead of men. But that I think might be an incompatibility with Populated Cities mod. Agreed. Only women are responding to 'coveted'. Men from Windhelm and Whiterun are taking advantage of my character, al of them in the inns, my char is a female breton, even outside a pilgrim in whiterun got her after helped her to scape from a wolf pack (beggining a new playtrough)
Storms of Superior Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 This is AMAZING!!! Where would you recommend heading to test it out? Any preferred areas for getting captured? Take your pick Any hostile humanoid can enslave you (except trolls, werewolves and draugr... they just assault you). I didn't try Solstheim yet (or any non Skyrim landmass), so it would be interesting to know what happens there. If you want a quick suggestion, you can start in Chillwind Depths for Falmers - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Chillwind_Depths Or in any fort with vampires or bandits. You know what would really suck, and I know some conehead is gonna do this, is to be captured in Blackreach in hardcore mode.
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