Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[vandana.ghost]

Hello.

 

I found a Spriggan matron, a flowering spriggan, and one of their pet cave bears. They beat me down, and I got the pop-up about roots crawling over my body. Upon clicking OK, I crash to desktop.

 

Some details:

1) clean save, no conflicting mods that I'm aware of

2) I have "Coveted" activated, and right as they beat me to kneeling, one of them gives me the "coveted rape dialogue" line about me being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was the only weird thing, and might be (to these untrained eyes) the source of whatever conflict is causing the crash.

3) It doesn't seem to matter if I kill the bear and the matron and just get beat down by the flowering spriggan, she still gives the dialogue line from Coveted.

4) Once, I didn't get CTD, but that's because I never got the pop-up. Scene didn't start correctly, I was standing there, the spriggans were no longer aggro, the "Flowering Spriggan" quest started, and was checked in MCM, but I didn't have the armor, or any other change.

 

Anyway, just some notes. Overall, it's a fairly stable build. I've managed to be captured by all sorts of things without major complications until now.

 

Edit: Brand new character, managed to get the flowering spriggan quest,

1) Didn't activate Coveted

2) Was completely naked with no gear. 

 

I think one of the reasons I was crashing before was the attempt to strip gear? Gear was stripping for the root-rape when the pop-up happened prior to CTD, and I know you added gear-stripping to the Spriggan quest... just a random thought.

 

First, I want to say this is awesome, and my comments are in the spirit of bug reports to help you figure out how to fix stuff, not out of a lack of appreciation for what's being created here

 

Ok, more input:

 

General:

Sex scenes from "Enslaved" are drawn from the consensual list not the aggressive list.

Sex scenes from "Coveted" are still aggressive

 

Spriggan:

My fresh new character, who managed to get the Spriggan quest by being completely devoid of items and not activating "Coveted", started wandering around Whiterun infecting random people. I had forgotten to uncheck the three Estrus Chaurus animations from the consensual list, and so one random person activated the tentacles. After that scene concluded, the "Spriggan slave loop" kept failing, reporting "Player is Busy 1"

 

"Payback's a Bitch"

On a more experienced character, I played through the Hired Thugs, using your new "are we there yet?" functionality, which worked just fine. After escaping Mistwatch, I hunted the thugs down and killed them only to discover that about 75% of my items were missing from the chest, including all my armor / custom clothing and a number of unique weapons. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not to have most of your items be unrecoverable from this quest, but I figured I'd mention it in case it wasn't. 

[Vith]

 

 

Now, coveted also ignoring sexual preferences, I always set to opposite only but while she's in Solitude, she's ONLY raped by women instead of men. But that I think might be an incompatibility with Populated Cities mod.

 

Agreed. Only women are responding to 'coveted'.

 

Men from Windhelm and Whiterun are taking advantage of my character, al of them in the inns, my char is a female breton, even outside a pilgrim in whiterun got her after helped her to scape from a wolf pack (beggining a new playtrough)

I also have guys respond (even if they're quite outnumbered by females - wich made me think at first that only women would be responding. So this might just be some kind of RNG luck).

[d4079925]

This mod is crazy awesome. Thanks for making this!

 

Only problem I have is when I enter Sanguine's Realm, the first 1 second everything's ok, then the screen goes dark. Then after it comes back into focus, I have a crazy graphical artifact radiating from the crosshair, 4 ways (like a technicolor light-spray forming a cross) and sanguine's realm turns into a cacophony of shimmering color gliding over normal maps.

 

It's like having taken a whole lot of magic mushrooms - sounds cool, but it's uncomfy on the eyes and I'm sure this wasn't meant to happen like that.

 

I think it might have something to due with your enhancements, something that throws the normal mapping out of whack, maybe the sky or something graphically (in a technical sense) unorthodox?

[Skyrimfloo]

Many of the problems I've been having lately with SexLab mods come from them trying to do things at the same time. For example, in this case I've gotten issues when both SD and Lover's Victim tried to push a friendly NPC into raping my character. Then, if you're using Submit it can happen that it auto-submits to your intended ensalver or a friendly attacker that got too horny.

 

About Submit, that one also makes guards to go and defend your character, which conflicts with Spectator Crowds.

 

My point is that I see many mods that start doing different things but end expanding into niches that other mods deal with. That's good when they completely take over that function (having one mod instead of two that work with both situations is more efficient than two mods fighting for control over certain situations), but in many cases this "overlap" is partial, sometimes missing features that the other mod had, and having both together just for that feature makes it a real mess.

 

For instance, this mod is aiming to regulate friendly NPC rape, but it lacks Arousal support.

[d4079925]

This mod is crazy awesome. Thanks for making this!

 

Only problem I have is when I enter Sanguine's Realm, the first 1 second everything's ok, then the screen goes dark. Then after it comes back into focus, I have a crazy graphical artifact radiating from the crosshair, 4 ways (like a technicolor light-spray forming a cross) and sanguine's realm turns into a cacophony of shimmering color gliding over normal maps.

 

It's like having taken a whole lot of magic mushrooms - sounds cool, but it's uncomfy on the eyes and I'm sure this wasn't meant to happen like that.

 

I think it might have something to due with your enhancements, something that throws the normal mapping out of whack, maybe the sky or something graphically (in a technical sense) unorthodox?

 

I found out it's the slave collar that causes this. and... the collar and wrist irons can be dropped btw

[Redflyingmonkey]

Heya, is there some news concerning the scenes not starting ? Finally got the error messages to show up on my screen, they say nothing is starting but I'm relieved, it means the mod is functionning somehow if it can check that there was a failure in the script. 

On another note, Sanguine's Realm looks almost bug free, nice additions to it too ! 
PS : For people who get stuck at sanguine's if sleeping when enslaved by a master, just enter unequipall on the console when you're inside the realm, it should normally end the enslaved quest, and unequip the bonds too. Throw them immediately somewhere from your inventory, speak to Sanguine, then upon leaving the realm you'll go back to your master's place, not enslaved (means they'll attack you and you don't have any armor or weapon on you at this point, option 1 : run, option 2 : get enslaved again and face the scene not starting bugs aaaaagain)

[judge0]

SkyrimII:

 

I don't know what you are doing, but keep it up!

 

This is the most stable I've ever seen SD work. I loaded this up for a lark, along with Victim, Submit, Radiant Prostitution Tweaked, Submit Devices, Paycrime, Dibella, Angrim's Apprentice , and all the NPC adding mods I could find that were stable.

 

Add to the mix Live a Deviant Life, and I just had the most intense three hour play session ever. I left amore detailed post on the Live a Deviant Life thread, basically everyones scripts were working in unison.

 

Thanks!

[DeepBlueFrog]

That will teach me to go away for work... now I come back to two pages worth of comments

 

There are too many thing to answer to everything individually. 

 

For people who reported issues or ideas, I am very grateful and I have been taking notes. They will be added to the first page very soon.

 

So, the falmer enslavement is supposed to be the ultimate fate or something? I saw in the log that your char. will be asked to join after 3 days, that didn't happened.

 

Also, all sex beside coveted are in Normal & not Aggressive. I'm also confused why there are features that...

 

Maybe later.

 

Falmer enslavement is designed to be the ultimate fate. The only way out is escape.

 

I do have ideas for a quest around Falmers but that will come later

(Think Kerrigan in Starcraft ).

 

A few problems I have since the last update:

-The "do you have another task for me" dialogue does not appear, even though I have the right amount of demerits

-Dance scene skipped issue (the same I had before the update) is still there. 

 

"Do you have another task" should happen after 3 days of enslavement. If you rush through the demerits you will still be left with having to wait a while before the menu appears.

 

Dance and torture are still not working. They are my top priority at the moment.

 

Would you make Sanguines Realm optional please? I only want to use the enslavement.

 

I added it to the list for later.

 

 

 

This is AMAZING!!!  Where would you recommend heading to test it out?  Any preferred areas for getting captured?

 

Take your pick Any hostile humanoid can enslave you (except trolls, werewolves and draugr... they just assault you).

 

I didn't try Solstheim yet (or any non Skyrim landmass), so it would be interesting to know what happens there.

 

If you want a quick suggestion, you can start in Chillwind Depths for Falmers -  http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Chillwind_Depths

 

Or in any fort with vampires or bandits.

 

 

You know what would really suck, and I know some conehead is gonna do this, is to be captured in Blackreach in hardcore mode.
 

 

 

That makes me a conehead then ... that's where I took those screenshots on the download page.

 

Starting with Live Another Life as a Necromancer right in Blackreach and going out for a quest is a great way to meet Falmers, Chaurus... and you know the rest.

 

 

 

 

Now, coveted also ignoring sexual preferences, I always set to opposite only but while she's in Solitude, she's ONLY raped by women instead of men. But that I think might be an incompatibility with Populated Cities mod.

 

Agreed. Only women are responding to 'coveted'.

 

Men from Windhelm and Whiterun are taking advantage of my character, al of them in the inns, my char is a female breton, even outside a pilgrim in whiterun got her after helped her to scape from a wolf pack (beggining a new playtrough)

I also have guys respond (even if they're quite outnumbered by females - wich made me think at first that only women would be responding. So this might just be some kind of RNG luck).

 

 

I will add gender restrictions to Coveted comments. I can assure you both men and women alike are supposed to participate (there is a cooldown between rapes by the way).

 

I also already fixed hate comments from Falmers and Sanguine in my development version, so that will be fixed at the next update.

[Redflyingmonkey]

I don't understand, the scenes seem to work for some people ? Do you have some advices to tweak this, with maybe load orders or over sexlab mods installed that may or may not cause conflict ? 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I don't understand, the scenes seem to work for some people ? Do you have some advices to tweak this, with maybe load orders or over sexlab mods installed that may or may not cause conflict ? 

 

I need to check exactly which animation files are used for the scenes and make sure they are included in the mod.

 

What I suspect is that some may have come from the time SD was using Sexis instead of SexLab and that some idles may still be used.

 

That could explain why some people see animations and some don't.

[Redflyingmonkey]

 

I don't understand, the scenes seem to work for some people ? Do you have some advices to tweak this, with maybe load orders or over sexlab mods installed that may or may not cause conflict ? 

 

I need to check exactly which animation files are used for the scenes and make sure they are included in the mod.

 

What I suspect is that some may have come from the time SD was using Sexis instead of SexLab and that some idles may still be used.

 

That could explain why some people see animations and some don't.

 

Gotcha, I'm sure you have your hands full, keep up the good work dude ! You're near it ! And Sanguine looks like a script-hell to patch, I'm literaly amazed you even try. 

[AwfulArchdemon]

I'll go test again. I'll do all of Dragonborn naked, and see if guys stick it to Mrs. Unfortunate. DB is huge, so I should certainly have a ton of opportunities, plus I'm a vampire (lord), so I'll have to go drink people at some point. I've heard the comment (coveted) a bunch, just haven't seen a reaction (yet?).

[magnusx]

In the scenes of rape by drunk people because ure "naked" in the end there is not cum effect, some people have told that this happens too in the rape scenes when ure enslaved, can u check that part pliz? I have installed sexlab defeat and when the rape occurrs there are cum in the end, i use it with "beeing female" mod, so, no cum, no sperm so no forced pregnancy, thnx in advance bud! Great job

[DeepBlueFrog]

I'll go test again. I'll do all of Dragonborn naked, and see if guys stick it to Mrs. Unfortunate. DB is huge, so I should certainly have a ton of opportunities, plus I'm a vampire (lord), so I'll have to go drink people at some point. I've heard the comment (coveted) a bunch, just haven't seen a reaction (yet?).

 

You will see increase in comments after 5, 10, 15 and 20 visits to Sanguine's realm.

After 20, just about everybody will have comments and action for you (except some of the old people and a couple of exceptions).

[DeepBlueFrog]

In the scenes of rape by drunk people because ure "naked" in the end there is not cum effect, some people have told that this happens too in the rape scenes when ure enslaved, can u check that part pliz? I have installed sexlab defeat and when the rape occurrs there are cum in the end, i use it with "beeing female" mod, so, no cum, no sperm so no forced pregnancy, thnx in advance bud! Great job

 

That's out of my control.

 

I am using straight up sexlab scenes for that, so if something blocks orgasms, I don't know what it is.

[magnusx]

Thnx bud, same happens with prison overhaul, i will try enslavement then and confirm or discard the situation

[Adam Jensen]

Maybe I am having an issue, because I know that this update is supposed to make moving harder, but right now moving in my game while enslaved is downright impossible. Like it can easily take 5 minutes to take ten steps. It's a bit annoying, imo.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Maybe I am having an issue, because I know that this update is supposed to make moving harder, but right now moving in my game while enslaved is downright impossible. Like it can easily take 5 minutes to take ten steps. It's a bit annoying, imo.

 

Are you using Requiem by any chance?

 

I just installed it yesterday and I noticed the same thing. 

Slowdown was high but ok before... with Requiem, it is downright impossible to move.

 

I will reduce the effect a little bit now that it happens more often (stacks up with sex).

[Adam Jensen]

No, not really. I am using SD's hardcore mode if that counts. Also how exactly do I trigger Sanguine's Dreamworld? Besides the first dream sequence, I don't seem to be able to trigger it at the moment of death.

[judge0]

 I was asked by a number of people how I got SD+ working.

 

So, first I don't use any old saves to try these things, new game only.

I have Sexlab Framework 1.35, current ZAZ, current Prison overhaul, current Devious devices, all of them (merged with Wrye Bash btw)

Submit, Submit w Devices, Lovers Victim, Paycrime (so I don't actually have to GO to prison- too crashy) Radiant Prostitution, The Sanguines Debauchery Compatibility Patch for Submit, Cumshot, Squirt, Nude Creatures, Adult Real Werewoilves, Bestiality Extras, XPS 1.92 Skeleton, Dual Sheathe Redux, The UNPB BBP meshes with 3d Labia ( can't remember who posted those, will have to thank them, the Ningheim Race, Lovergirl Race, The Ashen ( my current fave), Racemenu with Chargen, Nudes By favoritesouls (with the body meshes from the Noiral race), UNPB +BBP for generic female NPCs

 

I run Mod Organizer, with BUM, BOSS, Tes5Edit, FreeCommander, SUM, FNIS 4.1.1 w Creature back, but not the spells.

I run the Community Uncapper, OneTweak, MFGconse (comes with the framework), disablefacegencache AND showracemenu_precachekiller, HDThighheelNative 0.5beta. All the Unoffical Patches, all mods that require it are cleaned of dirty edits in Tes5Edit, and use Wrye Batch for the bashed patch.

 

In total I am running 223 mods, 193 of which have esps or esms.

Manually I have installed into the real Skyrim directory, Tes5Edit, Hialgo, Texures optimizer and the Creation Kit. Everything else is installed through MO's virtual file system.

 

I first tried SD+ with version 1.05a - it didn't work, installed 1.05d - it worked, read my post in the Live a Deviant Life thread for how well it worked.

 

Hope that helped somebody. And sorry SkyrimII for hijacking your thread, I had many messages about what I was doing to get it to work, so decided to post this.

[magnusx]

Maybe I am having an issue, because I know that this update is supposed to make moving harder, but right now moving in my game while enslaved is downright impossible. Like it can easily take 5 minutes to take ten steps. It's a bit annoying, imo.

About the shackles, can't it be tweaked via ZAZ MCM menu? I saw an option about it there

[Redflyingmonkey]

I MADE IT WOOOORK ! SAVE THE QUEEN, GET TEH BACON'n BEERS, IT'S A MARIO, GET IN THE CHOPPA !

Disable AFT or UFO, load your game, start SD, save, quit your game, then re-enable AFT or UFO. Worked for me, don't know about the other ones who have problems making it start ! 

[magnusx]

 

In the scenes of rape by drunk people because ure "naked" in the end there is not cum effect, some people have told that this happens too in the rape scenes when ure enslaved, can u check that part pliz? I have installed sexlab defeat and when the rape occurrs there are cum in the end, i use it with "beeing female" mod, so, no cum, no sperm so no forced pregnancy, thnx in advance bud! Great job

 

That's out of my control.

 

I am using straight up sexlab scenes for that, so if something blocks orgasms, I don't know what it is.

 

 

Nevermind, the sex in enslavement triggers the sperm on beeing female, this will stay foreva in my game, thnx!

[Guest]

I am having a few issues and not sure if its only me so if anyone can let me know if they're having the same issues.

 

ISSUES:

 

-  During the flowering spriggan quest it keeps saying player is busy [10] also get raped by random npc around me (don't know if this is normal just wondering)

-  During enslavement when selecting either to anger or to please it will take awhile for them to active sex

-  Also during enslavement after selecting either feature they stand in front of me it says [starting scene] i wait for 6 sec and the it says [you are left panting End scene] then thats when the sex scene begins.

- When I choose the dance option my character dances for a brief moment and then stops completely and after I stop dancing they start clapping.

- When I escape my master still bound I am able to activate dead npc's and deposit my bondage equipment being set free (not sure if a bug just annoying)

- When asking stranger to help me escape my master and choosing (I have something to offer...I guess) they have sex with me and nothing happens

- When dancing also I get no gold for my efforts

- During punishment scenes I am still able to move around no bound to cross or any other objects during scenes

 

THINGS I LOVE:

 

- The flowering spriggan quest actually works for me with your patch before the cloths wouldn't even equip

- The ability to move freely instead of being bound to boring npc's

- Able to choose passive and aggressive option anytime

- Doesn't take forever to get your masters demerits up or down

- movement being slowed by ankle bindings makes it hard to get away without dying forces player to keep someone in case of combat

 

I gotta say these are all issues I specifically have had I do not know if they're particular to just me, so if anyone can tell if maybe its just conflicting mods or that these are still bugs being ironed out it would be really helpful.

 

I appreciate all the work you have done man you made some amazing changes and for that I can not go back origninal SD!

[BloodSplatter]

Hey, loving this expansion so far! However, I keep getting teleported to Sanguines Realm everytime I try to sleep. Also, this is while I"m already enslaved. So unsure if you're aware of this but basically my first enslavement on this character was by hired thugs, and I know you're taken to Sanguines Realm after your first enslavement, but naturally, my first enslavement ends when a new one starts, that is being taken to mistwatch and given to the bandit there, so that's causing problems. Is it intended to go to Sanguines Realm everytime you sleep? Because it also causes problems with my needs mod, requirement for sleep. Mayhaps a way to disable having to got here everytime would be nice?

 

Thanks.