CGi Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Question for people who could not talk to Sanguine inside Dreamworld. Were you wearing Devious Devices at the time? The gag especially... it prevents you from talking to anyone, including uncle Sanguine. I will have to add a check and unequip it while in Dreamworld so you can interact with him again. There's a way to still make dialogue trigger. To test it, just wear the DD gag and talk to quest NPC. Can't remember which one exactly, but i met a few of them while starting a new game with Live a deviant Life. Alternativly you can have Sanguine auto start dialogue if the player gets in a certain range. He's a daedra, so even if the players toon just says "mmmh.. mmpf...", he'll understand as he can read someones mind.
Zydar Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Question for people who could not talk to Sanguine inside Dreamworld. Were you wearing Devious Devices at the time? The gag especially... it prevents you from talking to anyone, including uncle Sanguine. I will have to add a check and unequip it while in Dreamworld so you can interact with him again. Yup, Sanguine was walking around drunk, not talking to me. I was both gagged and belted tho my armbinder was removed when I entered the place. On another note, my character was raped by one of the slaves walking around the place when I first entered the dreamworld, not sure if its part of SD+ or Lover's Victim. Honestly I've never experienced this part of the mod how to you get to Sanguines Dreamworld? After your character got enslaved once and escaped/released, go to sleep.
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 12, 2014 Author Posted January 12, 2014 Question for people who could not talk to Sanguine inside Dreamworld. Were you wearing Devious Devices at the time? The gag especially... it prevents you from talking to anyone, including uncle Sanguine. I will have to add a check and unequip it while in Dreamworld so you can interact with him again. Yup, Sanguine was walking around drunk, not talking to me. I was both gagged and belted tho my armbinder was removed when I entered the place. On another note, my character was raped by one of the slaves walking around the place when I first entered the dreamworld, not sure if its part of SD+ or Lover's Victim. That's Dangerous Nights kicking in question on the "no death" mechanic. Do I have to successfully finish an an enslavement and then sleep or simply get enslaved and sleep. When I tested it thanks to populated Roads the bandits I was enslaved by got beaten to a pulp by a trader caravan and those guys didn't see me as a victim so I died. Just wondering. Yes - you have to be enslaved, escape, sleep and then, no death kicks in.
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 12, 2014 Author Posted January 12, 2014 Ah, if the toon is really naked, there will be comments, of course - but still nothing happend. Don't give up yet. Coveted is missing dialogues if you are actually naked. I added that to the next update. If you are dressed, the dialogues should appear after a number of visits to the dreamworld. My apologies for the confusion. In my haste to augment the effect of the artifact and have people rape you anyway (naked or not), I lost track that I was missing the original naked condition. The update will be released later today.
Mdy Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 I'm afraid to enter a bar again, even with clothes the drunk people drop my character to ground, it don't happens so much, but when i enter to the inns i try to avoid them XD, have played like 10 levels from the beginning and it keeps happening wait, is this a bug or a feature?
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 12, 2014 Author Posted January 12, 2014 I'm afraid to enter a bar again, even with clothes the drunk people drop my character to ground, it don't happens so much, but when i enter to the inns i try to avoid them XD, have played like 10 levels from the beginning and it keeps happening wait, is this a bug or a feature? It's a feature... Danguine's way of having fun with you. As you progress, just about everybody will have a shot at you at some point... even domesticated dogs and wolves in certain conditions (I may have to balance the cooldown of the dialogue if it keeps happening too often).
Vith Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Ah, if the toon is really naked, there will be comments, of course - but still nothing happend. Don't give up yet. Coveted is missing dialogues if you are actually naked. I added that to the next update. If you are dressed, the dialogues should appear after a number of visits to the dreamworld. My apologies for the confusion. In my haste to augment the effect of the artifact and have people rape you anyway (naked or not), I lost track that I was missing the original naked condition. The update will be released later today. Don't worry, I'm not giving up on the mod at all - I just decided to start from the beginning (new installation of skyrim, that is. With the newest versions of my mods, and maybe testing stuff like BBP, etc.) My problem was not really that people wont do anything if I'm really naked - I spend most of the time fully clothed. But with coveted enabled, they should have said something regardless of the clothes - wich they did not. This is what bugged the hell outta me. I'm pretty sure this has something to do with me updating the framework. (Maybe something got overwritten? I'm not sure, I don't have any insight.) Edit: As you progress, just about everybody will have a shot at you at some point... even domesticated dogs and wolves in certain conditions (I may have to balance the cooldown of the dialogue if it keeps happening too often). >_> Yes please!
Mercor Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Hi! First thanks for this mod! I just had a little problem, when I buy my freedom and asked if I'm free, the shackles are removed endlessly, it dissapears, then appears, then dissapears... Oh and I came to the daedric's world after my first enslavment, but Sanguine let me go, doing nothing. Is it normal? And just a question: in the daedric world, the first woman we saw is in a strange thing... Is it something from an another mod?
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 12, 2014 Author Posted January 12, 2014 Hi! First thanks for this mod! I just had a little problem, when I buy my freedom and asked if I'm free, the shackles are removed endlessly, it dissapears, then appears, then dissapears... Oh and I came to the daedric's world after my first enslavment, but Sanguine let me go, doing nothing. Is it normal? And just a question: in the daedric world, the first woman we saw is in a strange thing... Is it something from an another mod? Shackles removal is improved in the next version. The tentacle thing is a little used hentai device/creature from Zaz animation framework.
Vith Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 That tentacle thing instantly transformed to those stretch-thingies when I tried to talk to the lady in it.
Redflyingmonkey Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Hi! First thanks for this mod! I just had a little problem, when I buy my freedom and asked if I'm free, the shackles are removed endlessly, it dissapears, then appears, then dissapears... Oh and I came to the daedric's world after my first enslavment, but Sanguine let me go, doing nothing. Is it normal? And just a question: in the daedric world, the first woman we saw is in a strange thing... Is it something from an another mod? Shackles removal is improved in the next version. The tentacle thing is a little used hentai device/creature from Zaz animation framework. Isn't that from Estrus ?
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 12, 2014 Author Posted January 12, 2014 Hi! First thanks for this mod! I just had a little problem, when I buy my freedom and asked if I'm free, the shackles are removed endlessly, it dissapears, then appears, then dissapears... Oh and I came to the daedric's world after my first enslavment, but Sanguine let me go, doing nothing. Is it normal? And just a question: in the daedric world, the first woman we saw is in a strange thing... Is it something from an another mod? Shackles removal is improved in the next version. The tentacle thing is a little used hentai device/creature from Zaz animation framework. Isn't that from Estrus ? Nope - Zaz And if you stand in front of her long enough, you can watch her cycle through multiple torments. One of a few easter eggs I put in Sanguine's dreamworld. (Did anyone notice the other one? )
Redflyingmonkey Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Well I saw the wheel torture thingy, and the zaz chains, and I CTD'ed before seeing anything else
Zydar Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Question for people who could not talk to Sanguine inside Dreamworld. Were you wearing Devious Devices at the time? The gag especially... it prevents you from talking to anyone, including uncle Sanguine. I will have to add a check and unequip it while in Dreamworld so you can interact with him again. Yup, Sanguine was walking around drunk, not talking to me. I was both gagged and belted tho my armbinder was removed when I entered the place. On another note, my character was raped by one of the slaves walking around the place when I first entered the dreamworld, not sure if its part of SD+ or Lover's Victim. That's Dangerous Nights kicking in Oh? So I assume that's the only issue with having Dangerous Night then? I had it at 15% chance and my impression of a conflict is that I won't be able to go to the dreamworld if my character was raped in Skyrim. I wonder if that sleep was registered by RND, seems like even in her sleep she has no rest against the wicked lol
Guest Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 DD Integration would be really nice. What I would eventually like to see, or maybe make myself in some kind of add-on, is a "corruption" mechanic. A hidden variable that depends on time enslaved/punishments received/time spent at high arousal levels (possible with DD chastity belt and SL Aroused) that makes it proportionally less likely for the "aggressive" dialogue option to appear. The PC would need to try to escape as quickly as possible while attracting as little attention as possible to avoid being corrupted/brainwashed by their owner. At a certain level it could even take away the option to join, so that the character's only chance of escape would be the planned random "rescuer" events. I currently sort of RP that scenario by running Defeat, SD+, and Aroused. I start the game with Aroused's Exposure and Time Rate stats set to 0, and a very small threshold/on hit chance for defeat. If something happens to make Arousal start to go up, I proportionally increase the on hit chance or threshold for Defeat, to represent the gradual sex addiction of the PC. Then I sort of adhoc my character's behavior when enslaved in a way which approximates the effect that would be had by a mod like the one I described above. The only way for the PC to return to his/her normal self is to complete some quest for a Daedra/Sithis/ other evil act. It's a really neat way to play a morally conflicted paladin type character. Anyway, automating that sort of procedure would be my suggestion for a far-from-now update. And if it's outside the scope of the mod I might try to write and release my own.
Vith Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 It's-a me again, trouble-a-maker!This time, I can't get it to run at all - because CTD after Bethesdalogo. Out of nowhere.Got all the requirements? Check!Run FNIS? Check!Aktivated the main file and the dawnguardpatch (I have neither frostfall nor dragonborn)? double-check!BOSS doenst say anything about that.
magnusx Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 It's-a me again, trouble-a-maker! This time, I can't get it to run at all - because CTD after Bethesdalogo. Out of nowhere. Got all the requirements? Check! Run FNIS? Check! Aktivated the main file and the dawnguardpatch (I have neither frostfall nor dragonborn)? double-check! BOSS doenst say anything about that. Removed the sanguine frostfall and sanguine dragonborn esps from data folder?
Vithiss Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Just wanted to note that two different times when I killed someone with a Bound Sword I was transported to the Dream Realm, my own health in both cases was high. So far, using the conjured sword is the only thing I can figure out that was different in those two cases. Generally though, things seem to be working well - granted that I am just playing and not actively trying to test anything atm. DD integration would be neat, though, personally, it is something that I would like to be an option rahter than an all the time thing. Thanks again.
Vith Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 It's-a me again, trouble-a-maker! This time, I can't get it to run at all - because CTD after Bethesdalogo. Out of nowhere. Got all the requirements? Check! Run FNIS? Check! Aktivated the main file and the dawnguardpatch (I have neither frostfall nor dragonborn)? double-check! BOSS doenst say anything about that. Removed the sanguine frostfall and sanguine dragonborn esps from data folder? No, I didn't. But I know what I did - being blind about requirements. I forgot the Zaz animations.. *facepalms*
xboronx Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Tried SD+ the first time for real now (DD alternate start was too tempting the last few days). Some bug reporting, i did not read every comment, so they are maybe reported already. But overall my first enslavement is going quite well, so far nothing too serious: I got enslaved by a bandit leader, only one other bandit survived. The start went well, and i got food and drinks when i asked for. I wanted to try the reluctant route, sneaking away eventually and not asking the master for any favors. Bug 1 (very minor): As soon as sex starts status report spams begin and report that sex has ended, if you watch about 1 minute the scene you read at least half a dozen times something like your captors are watching or master is busy or idle. Bug 2(might not be a bug): I got the idea to try out the dance option with the other bandit (was a female, my master is a male ork). After the dance my character started to masturbate, then when SD tried to initiate sex with the female bandit the report said she is busy, after that a sex scene with the master occured normally. I got no money though, not sure if i should have gotten, i haven't offered the master to pay for getting free. Bug 3(maybe just clipping): When i got hungry and thirsty again via RND i asked the master for food and drinks, and he agreed to give them to me, but they did not appear on the ground. I was enslaved in a mine and tried sneaking away, so the ground was not plain, maybe the food appeared but is invisible because of the hilly terrain. Bug 4: My master has been extremely passive so far, he did not any action on his own with my char the last 10+ hours ingame, being busy with mining most of the time. Overall no serious bug so far and i had fun, now trying to sneak away and offering enslavement to a npc once i manage to get away. The master has always been following me and with me being so slow it didn't work so far, so this part seems to work well also Edit: Ok got away, briefly tried to voluntarily become another NPCs slave, it seemed to work, after that i reloaded and asked a smith to help me with my chains, i am free now again and the MCM status report seems correct too. Enough Skyrim for today, but my first enslavement was already pretty nice. Good job so far.
Pinute Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 It's-a me again, trouble-a-maker! This time, I can't get it to run at all - because CTD after Bethesdalogo. Out of nowhere. Got all the requirements? Check! Run FNIS? Check! Aktivated the main file and the dawnguardpatch (I have neither frostfall nor dragonborn)? double-check! BOSS doenst say anything about that. Removed the sanguine frostfall and sanguine dragonborn esps from data folder? No, I didn't. But I know what I did - being blind about requirements. I forgot the Zaz animations.. *facepalms* FYI, the best way for troubleshooting crashes before menu is to load up tes5edit - it'll error out when it can't find the missing master and tell you what it which one it was looking for.
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 (...) Bug 1 (very minor): As soon as sex starts status report spams begin and report that sex has ended, if you watch about 1 minute the scene you read at least half a dozen times something like your captors are watching or master is busy or idle. Bug 2(might not be a bug): I got the idea to try out the dance option with the other bandit (was a female, my master is a male ork). After the dance my character started to masturbate, then when SD tried to initiate sex with the female bandit the report said she is busy, after that a sex scene with the master occured normally. I got no money though, not sure if i should have gotten, i haven't offered the master to pay for getting free. Bug 3(maybe just clipping): When i got hungry and thirsty again via RND i asked the master for food and drinks, and he agreed to give them to me, but they did not appear on the ground. I was enslaved in a mine and tried sneaking away, so the ground was not plain, maybe the food appeared but is invisible because of the hilly terrain. Bug 4: My master has been extremely passive so far, he did not any action on his own with my char the last 10+ hours ingame, being busy with mining most of the time. (...) Bug 1 - That's because of the difference of speed between notifications and the start of sex scenes. Not much I can do about it unless I rewrite the way sex scenes are handled. Later maybe. Bug 2 - That's normal. Nearby actors are enlisted to take turns on the PC after the dance ended but they may be involved in a scene or an idle by the time their turn comes and they have to skip their chance at sex Bug 3 - They could be in your inventory as well. They are most likely rolling downhill. Bug 4 - That's an unexpected side effect I need to address. Before, SD would stop any idle actions from Masters and put them on a schedule to trigger actions with the PC. That resulted is very dull NPCs standing around doing nothing. So I added idle packages to give Masters something to do and in doing so, I suppose I disabled their scheduled actions with the player. Maybe I could tweak this with schedules during the day.
Aliris Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Tried making a new game and running through again. I'm still running into the problem of getting repeatedly sent to the dreamworld. Getstage _sd_dream returns 0.00 (in the dream or outside). If I try the setstage command, I wind up getting repeatedly jumped to the entrance of the dreamworld. The pull chain has no effect except to send the spike up (maybe I need to use a different one?). Everything else seems to be working fairly well. Some delay on the Coveted events might help, otherwise it gets to be nonstop very quickly - though that could simply be because my visits to the dreamworld racked up quickly. Another note, it seems that Sanguine is still available for dialogue, even if he decides to do something else, which can cause problems since you can simply keep hitting "Let me go" while the delay for the animations goes.
Vith Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Everything else seems to be working fairly well. Some delay on the Coveted events might help, otherwise it gets to be nonstop very quickly - though that could simply be because my visits to the dreamworld racked up quickly. Must.resist.urge.to.cry.a.little.. Coveted still not working for me, dispite complete re-installment of skyrim and SD+. So. Maybe.. when I installed sd+, I'm naked - might this be the problem? My char is a bosmer, instead of my usual imperial girls - might this be the problem? On a side note, regarding bug2 and bug4: This is somehow causing enslavement to get very... dull, at least for me. Because they ALLWAYS have some idles to do. I just got enslaved, and it's like this: NPC enslaves me, and sits on the next chair - sex canceled. I talk to him, be a good passive slave - master stands up, scenes delay a bit... and master sits down again - sex canceled. And so on. The ONLY thing how I get some action, is using the dance option. Basicialy, Idles seem to be more important to the npc's. (Oh, and after I disabled every chair, master just stands around, and.. no sex. I'm starting to believe that he's not really interessted in girls, lol.)
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 Version 1.07 is up with these updates: - Improved compatibility with Devious Devices - Better gender checks and overall rewrite of Coveted - Many bug fixes and tweaks (see spoilers for details) - Added 'Can I go with you?' option to switch Master- Added more dialogues to Master (Please?):: Not doing much for now... place holder for later- Fixed: Release hands at start of 'Indentured servant':: Hands released only under -20 demerits. Master doesn't trust you enough before that.- Fixed issues with Coveted comments- Added naked option to Coveted:: If PC fully naked and NPC has low morality- PC sent back from dreamworld with full slave gear- Add dialogue option 'I have something for you':: Open gift menu and give Master inventory (useful for weight management if necessary)- Set enslavement sex scenes to Aggressive- Set variable shackles slowdown effect:: Effect cut in half during enslavement (after 10 enslavements - slave getting used to chains):: Effect cut down further escape (reduced influence from missing Master)- Restored chance of showracemenu on (anger) comments- Changed visual effect on bloody collar:: Not working for some people- Removed shackles and binds from punishment items- Test compatibility with Devious Devices:: Add smarter detection of Devices keywords and fill in with regular irons when possible.:: Assumption is that Master will not have keys to unlock already installed devices (and may be pissed about that):: Fix detection of armbinders when adding bindgings to slave:: Unequip Devious Devices gag if in Dreamworld- Adjustments to Passive / Anger answers:: Corruption - chance of answer based on direction of demerits
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