Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

I managed to get Lydia hauled to Mistwatch on my last PC. When I got there to rescue her she ended up running to me. Would it be possible to apply a state similar to dismissal of followers in order to keep them locked in the cage at Mistwatch instead of running around free?

 

That was cool no matter what I thought could use improvement, so GJ.

 

Followers are supposed to stay in their cage, but it is sometimes tricky to position them properly. They have a tendency to get themselves unstuck and outside of cages, even locked.

[Bane Master]

Thanks so much for this!

 

Can I just confirm the OP is correct - Zaz Animation Pack 5.52 is still the required version for this release?

 

I ask because ZAP is now at 5.55 and the latest versions of Prison Overhaul won't run with anything less.

[Guest]

I put off a new play through for two months in anticipation of this update, and you post it the day after I put 7 hours into a character.

 

I really hope this works with existing saves

[jfraser]

I put off a new play through for two months in anticipation of this update, and you post it the day after I put 7 hours into a character.

 

I really hope this works with existing saves

 

He did warn that the new update was coming very soon.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Thanks so much for this!

 

Can I just confirm the OP is correct - Zaz Animation Pack 5.52 is still the required version for this release?

 

I ask because ZAP is now at 5.55 and the latest versions of Prison Overhaul won't run with anything less.

 

It should read 5.52 and above.

 

I didn't check recently but it is possible 5.55 is required now.

[BXERIC1]

For sum reason after i'm enslaved i keep tryin to escape without pressing anything i cant figure it out. if anyone can help thanks.

 

Edit: sry figured it out stupid SPERG

 

[Buffmutti]

Well, as usual i uninstalled SD+ 2.03, installed SD+ 2.04, deleted all Savegames and started a new game and very soon i found bugs.

 

In the first screenshot you can see my owner behind me and the PC can't kneel, she tries to kneel sometimes, but something hinders her to do that (btw, in Bodyslide 2 the Harness looks perfect and fits my body (CT77), but ingame....well, you can see that yourself...)

 

In the second screenshot you can see the PC trying to walk on a ramp (she was ordered to go to the cage) and was walking and walking and didn't stop walking in that spot without making even 1 meter. After a while i got the control back and could easily walk up the ramp.

 

Did you know that DA calms the Enemies for only 6 hours? Well, 6 hours after my enslavement everyone around me became hostile and tried to kill me. And my Owner? Well, he fled when the others started the fight with me, but he came back after they defeated me (and became calm again....for 6 hours)

 

Right after i was enslaved my owner "gifted" me a chastity belt, a blindfold and a gag and i was surprised, because i suddenly couldn't move in 3rd person view, even if i had changed the settings for the blindfold in the MCM. SD+ ignores that setting it seems.

 

Its strange, when i used SD+ 2.03 everyone was complaining about bugs, crashes and other stuff.....and i had nothing of these things. Now with 2.04 i have some bugs and can't use SD+ and i bet most people will be happy because on their computers SD+ will run flawless xD

[Marcus01]

Agh i also just started another playthrough with 4 hours into it~ 

 

I'm not sure I should restart perhaps there are some bugs and the previous version seemed to work alright. The no kneeling positions is very odd,  if you can't kneel it is very lore breaking.

 

Anyway thanks for the update and your work on the mod.

[Mondaiji]

Thanks for the new version.

 

sanguinesDebauchery.esp seems to have the masters diffrently ordered then normal? My other mods that use sexlab, sexlab aroused and zaz animations have <- this order, in your 2.0.4 version zaz animations come before sexlab, is there a reason for that?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Well, as usual i uninstalled SD+ 2.03, installed SD+ 2.04, deleted all Savegames and started a new game and very soon i found bugs.

 

And as usual, things have changed, are not complete (and certainly not well communicated on my end) and immediately interpreted as bugs

 

In the first screenshot you can see my owner behind me and the PC can't kneel, she tries to kneel sometimes, but something hinders her to do that (btw, in Bodyslide 2 the Harness looks perfect and fits my body (CT77), but ingame....well, you can see that yourself...)

 

Kneeling has been disabled in this version to avoid conflicts with the armbinder scripts which control the iron cuffs now. I will bring kneeling back in future versions (and hopefully, crawling on all fours as well).

 

In the second screenshot you can see the PC trying to walk on a ramp (she was ordered to go to the cage) and was walking and walking and didn't stop walking in that spot without making even 1 meter. After a while i got the control back and could easily walk up the ramp.

 

The reason I disabled the cage scene originally is that blasted AI control will quickly get your PC stuck against the side of a door.. or a rock... or a cooking pot on the floor. The scene is back (with the same AI bugs from Skyrim) but it will now time out and teleport you to the cage if you don't get there in time.

 

Did you know that DA calms the Enemies for only 6 hours? Well, 6 hours after my enslavement everyone around me became hostile and tried to kill me. And my Owner? Well, he fled when the others started the fight with me, but he came back after they defeated me (and became calm again....for 6 hours)

 

I noticed that happening with some factions (like the naked hunters). Where did you get enslaved?

I would like to test it further and figure out what is causing this issue.

I didn't change that part of the game yet so there is a good chance the same thing would have happened with the previous versions.

 

Right after i was enslaved my owner "gifted" me a chastity belt, a blindfold and a gag and i was surprised, because i suddenly couldn't move in 3rd person view, even if i had changed the settings for the blindfold in the MCM. SD+ ignores that setting it seems.

 

This is not a bug - it is a feature of Devious Devices and should have been explained in a popup message the first time you received the blindfold. While wearing blindfolds, you can only move in 1st person and you can only look around in 3rd person.

 

Its strange, when i used SD+ 2.03 everyone was complaining about bugs, crashes and other stuff.....and i had nothing of these things. Now with 2.04 i have some bugs and can't use SD+ and i bet most people will be happy because on their computers SD+ will run flawless xD

 

Eventually, these things will get resolved. Overall, SD is a lot more stable during my tests that it was months ago. 

I have to make a choice when enough testing has been going on to release an update and see what else other people discover. After 2 months, I decided this was enough testing even though some things are still not finished as usual. 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Thanks for the new version.

 

sanguinesDebauchery.esp seems to have the masters diffrently ordered then normal? My other mods that use sexlab, sexlab aroused and zaz animations have <- this order, in your 2.0.4 version zaz animations come before sexlab, is there a reason for that?

 

I noticed that too.

 

Is that really a problem?

 

I really don't want to change the order yet again as it always comes with missing properties throughout the game.

[MonkeyShoulder]

Ok, gave the new version a next, but the same thing happened with blackout and bleed out. I've attached screenshots of the settings in MCM:

 

a lot of images

 

 

[RoyceTalbot]

So should Sanguine's bindings disappear after a while? Whenever I come back from the Dreamworld my character has a full set of shackles, gag, collar and armbinder but only the armbinder can be removed by NPCs.

[DeepBlueFrog]

So should Sanguine's bindings disappear after a while? Whenever I come back from the Dreamworld my character has a full set of shackles, gag, collar and armbinder but only the armbinder can be removed by NPCs.

 

Yes.. they are on a timer of 1 h (not clear if it is in game or real time though).

[SleepyJim]

I've been trying the new version. Thanks for the update!

 

Got my character enslaved by the ridiculously over-powered magic users at Fort Kastav while she was wearing a full set of devious devices gear - blindfold, gag, collar, arm & leg cuffs, open belt, vaginal plug and an armbinder. All of that was left on her when slavery kicked in with nothing new being added. The gag wouldn't let me talk to the owner without going through the mini game from zenet's gag quest each time, which makes sense. The no kneeling thing felt weird. I understand why that's not in now, but I still got some bad arm clipping anyway when hung upside down from one of the Zaz posts for a whipping. Her arms came out of the binder for that with no hands.

 

Just a couple of other things I thought I should mention:

 

- I struggled out of the armbinder and my hands were free, with no new restraints added. I could access menus and, for example, equip spells without getting into any trouble.

 

- The message "Your owner is losing patience" came up on the screen every few seconds without end, even when my girl was trotting along obediently in her owner's wake.

 

- The owner kept saying, "Ah, don't do that!" repeatedly when I wasn't doing anything, though that stopped after about fifteen repetitions.

 

Thanks.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Ok, gave the new version a next, but the same thing happened with blackout and bleed out. I've attached screenshots of the settings in MCM:

 

a lot of images

 

Ok... I can see a few adjustments you can try.

 

On the first screen in DA, set:

 

Perc Health Threshold to 10%

Perc Health Large Hits to 600%

 

In SD, on the Add ons menu:

 

Set Frostfall mortality ON if you have Frostfall.

Otherwise, you will be invincible while you are cold and it will be harder for DA to detect that you have been defeated.

[makico]

Nice new version

 

I not think to istal that for now ... i still combat again creature animation ... i realy not udestand why my stupid falmer no play animation and other creature not play any animation .

[Buffmutti]

 

Well, as usual i uninstalled SD+ 2.03, installed SD+ 2.04, deleted all Savegames and started a new game and very soon i found bugs.

 

And as usual, things have changed, are not complete (and certainly not well communicated on my end) and immediately interpreted as bugs

 

In the first screenshot you can see my owner behind me and the PC can't kneel, she tries to kneel sometimes, but something hinders her to do that (btw, in Bodyslide 2 the Harness looks perfect and fits my body (CT77), but ingame....well, you can see that yourself...)

 

Kneeling has been disabled in this version to avoid conflicts with the armbinder scripts which control the iron cuffs now. I will bring kneeling back in future versions (and hopefully, crawling on all fours as well).

 

In the second screenshot you can see the PC trying to walk on a ramp (she was ordered to go to the cage) and was walking and walking and didn't stop walking in that spot without making even 1 meter. After a while i got the control back and could easily walk up the ramp.

 

The reason I disabled the cage scene originally is that blasted AI control will quickly get your PC stuck against the side of a door.. or a rock... or a cooking pot on the floor. The scene is back (with the same AI bugs from Skyrim) but it will now time out and teleport you to the cage if you don't get there in time.

 

Well, i was not teleported, the scene simply timed out while i was "moonwalking" at the ramp and then i could walk to the now locked cage.

 

Did you know that DA calms the Enemies for only 6 hours? Well, 6 hours after my enslavement everyone around me became hostile and tried to kill me. And my Owner? Well, he fled when the others started the fight with me, but he came back after they defeated me (and became calm again....for 6 hours)

 

I noticed that happening with some factions (like the naked hunters). Where did you get enslaved?

I would like to test it further and figure out what is causing this issue.

I didn't change that part of the game yet so there is a good chance the same thing would have happened with the previous versions.

 

In version 2.03 this never happened, no matter which faction i tried. I was enslaved by the Forsworn (some place called blablabla Redout or so, cant remember)

 

Right after i was enslaved my owner "gifted" me a chastity belt, a blindfold and a gag and i was surprised, because i suddenly couldn't move in 3rd person view, even if i had changed the settings for the blindfold in the MCM. SD+ ignores that setting it seems.

 

This is not a bug - it is a feature of Devious Devices and should have been explained in a popup message the first time you received the blindfold. While wearing blindfolds, you can only move in 1st person and you can only look around in 3rd person.

 

The popup message appeared and explained to me that i could change the settings of the blindfold if i don't like them, which i did, because i don't like them...and then DD ignored the setting.....or DD was telling me a lie in that popup message...or both.

 

Its strange, when i used SD+ 2.03 everyone was complaining about bugs, crashes and other stuff.....and i had nothing of these things. Now with 2.04 i have some bugs and can't use SD+ and i bet most people will be happy because on their computers SD+ will run flawless xD

 

Eventually, these things will get resolved. Overall, SD is a lot more stable during my tests that it was months ago. 

I have to make a choice when enough testing has been going on to release an update and see what else other people discover. After 2 months, I decided this was enough testing even though some things are still not finished as usual. 

 

 

[Mondaiji]

 

Thanks for the new version.

 

sanguinesDebauchery.esp seems to have the masters diffrently ordered then normal? My other mods that use sexlab, sexlab aroused and zaz animations have <- this order, in your 2.0.4 version zaz animations come before sexlab, is there a reason for that?

 

I noticed that too.

 

Is that really a problem?

 

I really don't want to change the order yet again as it always comes with missing properties throughout the game.

 

 

Not a problem i always sort masters before i start a new playthrough but it is a potential problem for someone that is not doing this step. I read that this can produce strange and hard to track down "bugs", it might help you in the long run to get less bug reports.

 

The gag from sanguine has a 99d xx timer in the magic effects section of the magic menu so i would say it is one real life day.

 

I did get my character quickly enslaved by the two bandits right below winterhold (skoma dealers) to "get rid" of the first visit to sanguines realm. As i was enslaved i got the (forgot name sry) pay my way to freedom quest started. I was working hard to get the money and in one of the follow up on dance scenes my character got teleported into the "air" (really high) and my current master thought i ran from him. After that i got ported back in to the next scene and as this finished i had to start the (forgot name sry) pay my way to freedom quest again.

Another thing i ran in at the same location was that after i changed my master my original master basically the buddy of the new one did agro on me and the only way for me to end this mess was to flee.

 

Again thanks for all your hard work on this mod, i feel like its one if not the one most immersive sexlab based skyrim mod around.

[uglykidcid]

Praying for the stable version....

[Aethernaut1899]

Oh, rats. Since I've installed the new version, slavery doesn't seem to be procc'ing. Specifically, I've lost the SD+ specific options when trying to "surrender to my fate". I just have "last breath", "pray to the gods" and "resist".

[DeepBlueFrog]

Oh, rats. Since I've installed the new version, slavery doesn't seem to be procc'ing. Specifically, I've lost the SD+ specific options when trying to "surrender to my fate". I just have "last breath", "pray to the gods" and "resist".

 

The surrender key has been re-purposed into a troubleshooting key for the past 2 versions. Mainly - just use it when you get stuck.

 

Death Alternative is now handling enslavement.

 

I may add manual enslavement later, but that will not be before another version or two at least.

[handsandarrows]

I haven't used SD+ for this playthrought yet, but i used it many time before and really liked it - and now with all your great new changes, i want to try again, but i am honestly confused what i need to make compatible with Devious Devices now, because latest patch note sound like it is already integrated, but at other place i read it needs patch from here, or patch from DD mod page... please help 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Well, as usual i uninstalled SD+ 2.03, installed SD+ 2.04, deleted all Savegames and started a new game and very soon i found bugs.

 

Right after i was enslaved my owner "gifted" me a chastity belt, a blindfold and a gag and i was surprised, because i suddenly couldn't move in 3rd person view, even if i had changed the settings for the blindfold in the MCM. SD+ ignores that setting it seems.

 

This is not a bug - it is a feature of Devious Devices and should have been explained in a popup message the first time you received the blindfold. While wearing blindfolds, you can only move in 1st person and you can only look around in 3rd person.

 

The popup message appeared and explained to me that i could change the settings of the blindfold if i don't like them, which i did, because i don't like them...and then DD ignored the setting.....or DD was telling me a lie in that popup message...or both.

 

 

 

 

Read the description more carefully.

 

Devious Devices provides 3 modes.

 

- Mode 1: 1st person, blindfold is dark and you can move. 3rd person, blindfold is clear, and you cannot move.

- Mode 2: 1st person, blindfold is blurry and you can move. 3rd person, blindfold is blurry, and you cannot move.

- Mode 3: 1st person, blindfold is blurry and you can move. 3rd person, blindfold is blurry, and you can move.

 

So if you want to move around in 3rd person, you have to use mode 3.

 

I just tested it and it works as advertised.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I haven't used SD+ for this playthrought yet, but i used it many time before and really liked it - and now with all your great new changes, i want to try again, but i am honestly confused what i need to make compatible with Devious Devices now, because latest patch note sound like it is already integrated, but at other place i read it needs patch from here, or patch from DD mod page... please help 

 

What other place did you read that from?

 

Devious Devices is integrated now. There is no need for the patch that used to be available from the Devious Devices page.

 

Just install Devious Devices Integration and Devious Devices Assets.