Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Aethernaut1899]

 

Oh, rats. Since I've installed the new version, slavery doesn't seem to be procc'ing. Specifically, I've lost the SD+ specific options when trying to "surrender to my fate". I just have "last breath", "pray to the gods" and "resist".

 

The surrender key has been re-purposed into a troubleshooting key for the past 2 versions. Mainly - just use it when you get stuck.

 

Death Alternative is now handling enslavement.

 

I may add manual enslavement later, but that will not be before another version or two at least.

 

 

Ah, thanks! Still, it doesn't seem to be working for me the other way either. I can eventually black out from damage, but I just wake up again with calmed enemies. I'll keep playing with it for a bit; it might just be a matter of having to start a new game.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Oh, rats. Since I've installed the new version, slavery doesn't seem to be procc'ing. Specifically, I've lost the SD+ specific options when trying to "surrender to my fate". I just have "last breath", "pray to the gods" and "resist".

 

The surrender key has been re-purposed into a troubleshooting key for the past 2 versions. Mainly - just use it when you get stuck.

 

Death Alternative is now handling enslavement.

 

I may add manual enslavement later, but that will not be before another version or two at least.

 

 

Ah, thanks! Still, it doesn't seem to be working for me the other way either. I can eventually black out from damage, but I just wake up again with calmed enemies. I'll keep playing with it for a bit; it might just be a matter of having to start a new game.

 

 

Look back up to this post and see if that applies to your game:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24042-sd-sanguine-debauchery-enhanced-2014-07-27/?p=869853

 

Can you die at all?

 

If you cannot trigger enslavement by increasing threshold parameters in DA, it is possible your character has reached a DeferredKill state from another mod (this is what happens if you have the Frostfall addon for SD with Frostfall Mortality turned off... other mods can do that too).

 

DA has a tendency to have you get back up a lot if you are in a DeferredKill state... it is hard to detect death when you cannot die

[sapho888]

I love your work on this mod so far!  Can't wait for the added features too!

[gmonster]

Hi I am trying to mod the Male spriggan armor in. Do you think you could provide some direction for me? I first placed it in nexus mod manager thinking it would overwrite the old spriggan files but it did not. How do i replace the files? Please and thanks for bringing this cool mod back.

[jfraser]

Hi I am trying to mod the Male spriggan armor in. Do you think you could provide some direction for me? I first placed it in nexus mod manager thinking it would overwrite the old spriggan files but it did not. How do i replace the files? Please and thanks for bringing this cool mod back.

 

Not sure what you're looking to do. This mod should have its own version, so you don't need to go find another one.

[doncabezahueca]

for some reason with me the spectral gag is not removing. It's been more than an hour game item and real time. Also upon entering the dream my pc controls freeze up and I'm not given a full spectral set. A temporary fix for me is "enableplayercontrols". After that I only have a gag and it has a 99day timer on it.

[Buffmutti]

 

 

 

Well, as usual i uninstalled SD+ 2.03, installed SD+ 2.04, deleted all Savegames and started a new game and very soon i found bugs.

 

Right after i was enslaved my owner "gifted" me a chastity belt, a blindfold and a gag and i was surprised, because i suddenly couldn't move in 3rd person view, even if i had changed the settings for the blindfold in the MCM. SD+ ignores that setting it seems.

 

This is not a bug - it is a feature of Devious Devices and should have been explained in a popup message the first time you received the blindfold. While wearing blindfolds, you can only move in 1st person and you can only look around in 3rd person.

 

The popup message appeared and explained to me that i could change the settings of the blindfold if i don't like them, which i did, because i don't like them...and then DD ignored the setting.....or DD was telling me a lie in that popup message...or both.

 

 

 

 

Read the description more carefully.

 

Devious Devices provides 3 modes.

 

- Mode 1: 1st person, blindfold is dark and you can move. 3rd person, blindfold is clear, and you cannot move.

- Mode 2: 1st person, blindfold is blurry and you can move. 3rd person, blindfold is blurry, and you cannot move.

- Mode 3: 1st person, blindfold is blurry and you can move. 3rd person, blindfold is blurry, and you can move.

 

So if you want to move around in 3rd person, you have to use mode 3.

 

I just tested it and it works as advertised

 

I tested it again and found the "bug". I changed the setting for the blindfold BEFORE i got a blindfold and somehow DD used Mode 1 even if Mode 2 or Mode 3 was used in the settings. I needed to change the settings back to Mode 1 and then to Mode 3 to be able to move in 3rd person.

 

At the moment the bug with the aggressive Enemies is annoying. The cage scene did happen and i was in the cage since 1 hour and then suddenly all Forsworn in Druadach Redoubt became aggressive and one ran to the cage, opened the door (wtf? the door is locked! do they all have the key?) and "killed" me and then they were all calm again. This did not happen in v2.03, i have tested that with all factions in v2.03, several times, it did never happen.

 

Did you change the "struggle" animation (the one which is used if you try to get rid of the armbinder)? That animation starts for like half a second and then stops again.

[gmonster]

 

Hi I am trying to mod the Male spriggan armor in. Do you think you could provide some direction for me? I first placed it in nexus mod manager thinking it would overwrite the old spriggan files but it did not. How do i replace the files? Please and thanks for bringing this cool mod back.

 

Not sure what you're looking to do. This mod should have its own version, so you don't need to go find another one.

 

 

Oh when the spriggan armor went on my character i had the body of a woman with a mans head. It was interesting.

[DonQuiWho]

> skyrimll

Thanks for the update.  Looking forward to trying it

 

Quick question pls, re moving from SD+203 to the new version

 

1 - I know that the FAQ has for some time stated that if you uninstall SD+, you can't then reinstall it.  Is that still true with this version?  FWIW, I've tried and haven't succeeded so far - the MCM Menu still shows the 4 or 5 subheadings, but each is empty, and the post de-installation save seems to only incluse scripts from SD+ that relate to the MCM Menu

 

2 - If the answer to 1 is 'Yes', apart from just a lot of general risk - LOL - are there any known specific reasons NOT to try the other alternative, is just overwriting the mods files.  FWIW on that score, I'm using Mod Organizer and LOOT to try to manage the whole thing, and LOOT put the new version in exactly the same place in the load order as the previous version

 

Any advice would be welcome   

[handsandarrows]

 

I haven't used SD+ for this playthrought yet, but i used it many time before and really liked it - and now with all your great new changes, i want to try again, but i am honestly confused what i need to make compatible with Devious Devices now, because latest patch note sound like it is already integrated, but at other place i read it needs patch from here, or patch from DD mod page... please help 

 

What other place did you read that from?

 

Devious Devices is integrated now. There is no need for the patch that used to be available from the Devious Devices page.

 

Just install Devious Devices Integration and Devious Devices Assets.

 

 

Oh, i am sorry, by other places i meant other section on your mod page - under customization it mentions DD patch, and under Compatibility it also mentions, so i was unsure. So thank you for your answer!

[CuteDragon]

Hey, I think I might be doing something wrong. I triple-checked, have all the requirements. Whenever I get 'killed', I get a load screen, then a black screen where my stamina bar is empty and my HP bar around 20% full, a message that my gold has been taken from me in the top left and then I get thrown either into an inn or outside the building I was just in. I have set the 10% and 600% Threshhold and Large Hits like you said. I am not running Frostfall, so no immunity to death from that. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Hi I am trying to mod the Male spriggan armor in. Do you think you could provide some direction for me? I first placed it in nexus mod manager thinking it would overwrite the old spriggan files but it did not. How do i replace the files? Please and thanks for bringing this cool mod back.

 

Not sure what you're looking to do. This mod should have its own version, so you don't need to go find another one.

 

 

Oh when the spriggan armor went on my character i had the body of a woman with a mans head. It was interesting.

 

 

Are you upgrading or on a new game?

 

I checked the gender assignment for the armor but it is possible i missed something.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hey, I think I might be doing something wrong. I triple-checked, have all the requirements. Whenever I get 'killed', I get a load screen, then a black screen where my stamina bar is empty and my HP bar around 20% full, a message that my gold has been taken from me in the top left and then I get thrown either into an inn or outside the building I was just in. I have set the 10% and 600% Threshhold and Large Hits like you said. I am not running Frostfall, so no immunity to death from that. 

 

Check your logs, you should see SD / DA related events around the time of your defeat. That will give you a hint about what is happening behind the scene and why enslavement was skipped.

 

You can also post post screenshots of your SD and DA menus (no BMP files please). 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I haven't used SD+ for this playthrought yet, but i used it many time before and really liked it - and now with all your great new changes, i want to try again, but i am honestly confused what i need to make compatible with Devious Devices now, because latest patch note sound like it is already integrated, but at other place i read it needs patch from here, or patch from DD mod page... please help 

 

What other place did you read that from?

 

Devious Devices is integrated now. There is no need for the patch that used to be available from the Devious Devices page.

 

Just install Devious Devices Integration and Devious Devices Assets.

 

 

Oh, i am sorry, by other places i meant other section on your mod page - under customization it mentions DD patch, and under Compatibility it also mentions, so i was unsure. So thank you for your answer!

 

 

Thanks... I fixed it.

[ssdd2014]

I am not sure I totally understand how 2.04 works. Few things bugging me:

 

1. Now, by choosing anger dialog options my pc is only getting punished visually, I mean, there is no punishment gear adding.

 

2. Some while wearing a collar and getting enslaved again (armbinder was removed earlier) the new owner did not bother to bind pcs hand at all. He punished her and gagged her. But now she can't talk to anybody, not the owner, not anyone. So I am unsure how to advance further.

 

3. There is no kneeling anymore, was this intentional?

[justbob2]

for some reason with me the spectral gag is not removing. It's been more than an hour game item and real time. Also upon entering the dream my pc controls freeze up and I'm not given a full spectral set. A temporary fix for me is "enableplayercontrols". After that I only have a gag and it has a 99day timer on it.

 

I had the exact same problem(s). I had to use "enableplayercontrols" in DreamWorld, and I can't get rid of the spectral gag.

 

Also, the gag does not stop me from talking to anyone ... is it supposed to? 

[Mondaiji]

 

 

 

Oh, i am sorry, by other places i meant other section on your mod page - under customization it mentions DD patch, and under Compatibility it also mentions, so i was unsure. So thank you for your answer!

 

 

Thanks... I fixed it.

 

 

There is still a link under:

 

CUSTOMIZATION

Patches 

Devious Devices compatibility patch. (Devious Devices are not required for SD+, but with DD-Integration installed, SD+ will make checks to leave Devious Devices in place and preserve animations)

 

After i read you dialoge with handsandarrows i have redone my install this time i did try deviously helpless, devious devices for the masses and devious captures without the compatibility patch. Something did mess up calyps strap ons did not get used in scenes and deviously helpless is just a very bad idea in combination with the devious devices integrated items that the master puts on. My character got instantly used by another bandit and this one put on a gag wiche made communication impossible mostly breaking sd+.

 

Now for a last time is Devious Devices compatibility patch needed or not as with the patch i did not have any issue with calypso strapon on the last install but that is not telling much considering the install before that had the same issue and i cant pin point where it is coming from.

[Mondaiji]

 

for some reason with me the spectral gag is not removing. It's been more than an hour game item and real time. Also upon entering the dream my pc controls freeze up and I'm not given a full spectral set. A temporary fix for me is "enableplayercontrols". After that I only have a gag and it has a 99day timer on it.

 

I had the exact same problem(s). I had to use "enableplayercontrols" in DreamWorld, and I can't get rid of the spectral gag.

 

Also, the gag does not stop me from talking to anyone ... is it supposed to? 

 

 

I just did wait for sanguine to show up, as this is on his patrol route and then at his second time visiting the submit-resist dialoge showed up. After submiting control is restored, i am not sure if it was intended like this or not.

[DeepBlueFrog]

If you get stuck in Dreamworld, wait a little bit and if controls don't return after you receive the spectral items, use the K key to get yourself unstuck. I am still looking into that issue.

 

The spectral gag is immune to the gag effect from Devious Devices (since it is transparent and not really there).

 

The DD patch is not needed anymore. I can't see what it could have done with Calypso strap ons since the patch was mostly about fixing constraints on jumping and other idles while bound.

[DonQuiWho]

If you get stuck in Dreamworld, wait a little bit and if controls don't return after you receive the spectral items, use the K key to get yourself unstuck. I am still looking into that issue.

 

The spectral gag is immune to the gag effect from Devious Devices (since it is transparent and not really there).

 

The DD patch is not needed anymore. I can't see what it could have done with Calypso strap ons since the patch was mostly about fixing constraints on jumping and other idles while bound.

 

 

I'm sorry for perhaps being a tad thick, but is the unneeded DD patch the file that is named ?

'DeviousExpansion-v1.1.1.rar'

 

And, in case you missed it - it would be easy to in the flood of queries - any advice on my questions above on how to update within an existing game?  ie is the advice on no uninstall+reinstall being possible out of date?  Or is it just a case of swapping from old to new esps, shutting one's eyes, and pressing play?    If we do that, should we expect to see 2.04 change the MCM menus at all?

[Buffmutti]

I started a new game and this time i have chosen Bleak Falls Barrow for my first enslavement, because there are only 2 Bandits in the entrance hall.

 

So i killed 1 Bandit and let the other enslave me, this way i could avoid the "suddenly aggressive" bug.

Everything was fine and at the end of my enslavement my former owner had a surprise for me, because he didn't remove anything.

 

So i stood there with a collar/harness/chastity belt, shackles and cuffs. The armbinder i could remove during my enslavement already.

Then i slept and was transported to the dreamworld and got the spectral armbinder, collar and gag. I ran to Sanguine and asked him to let me go which he did.

Back in Bleak Falls Barrow i had still the spectral things equipped and then i waited 1 game hour but they didn't disappear and i don't wanted to wait 1 rl hour, so i first tried to struggle to remove the armbinder and i saw that the struggle animation was not "broken" (now i'm unsure if the struggle animation of the DD armbinder is broken or if this animation just won't play while you are enslaved).

 

I couldn't remove the armbinder with struggling so i opened the console and removed 1 invisible cuff which then removed the visible cuffs too.

 

1 rl hour is a bit long for my taste, my normal gaming sessions last 2, maybe 3 hours and to be forced to do nothing for 1 hour....in this case i would think twice if i even start to play (but as long as i can remove the spectral stuff with the console everything is fine xD)

 

From my point of view there is only 1 bug in this Mod, the bug that enemies around you become aggressive after the calm-effect of DA is over. I dont know if a bug in v2.03 hindered the calm-effect of DA to stop or if v2.03 was bugfree in this point.

[nameless701]

Wow! And yay to the cage scene, that was my favorite part of SD.

 

Than i have something for you.

Cages.7z

Cage1.7z

[ssdd2014]

Seriously guys, really can't figure out how to advance the quest while gagged! PC can't talk to ANYONE, including owner. Now I saw this in update section

 

 

:: Master has a prototype for dialogue replacing the blocking from devious gags, this can be duplicated for multiple dialogue options when gagged.

 

 

Didn't quite understand this. My character can't even talk to the MAster.

 

(Also I tried pickpocketing the master key, everything execute gag was removed.)

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

If you get stuck in Dreamworld, wait a little bit and if controls don't return after you receive the spectral items, use the K key to get yourself unstuck. I am still looking into that issue.

 

The spectral gag is immune to the gag effect from Devious Devices (since it is transparent and not really there).

 

The DD patch is not needed anymore. I can't see what it could have done with Calypso strap ons since the patch was mostly about fixing constraints on jumping and other idles while bound.

 

 

I'm sorry for perhaps being a tad thick, but is the unneeded DD patch the file that is named ?

'DeviousExpansion-v1.1.1.rar'

 

And, in case you missed it - it would be easy to in the flood of queries - any advice on my questions above on how to update within an existing game?  ie is the advice on no uninstall+reinstall being possible out of date?  Or is it just a case of swapping from old to new esps, shutting one's eyes, and pressing play?    If we do that, should we expect to see 2.04 change the MCM menus at all?

 

 

Devious Expansion is not a patch ... it's an optional module for Devious Devices. Up to you to install it or not... it adds new devices that are not part of the main DD files.

 

Uninstall is still broken if you want to upgrade to another version in the same game.

 

The only option at this time is to overwrite the files and see if your game still works after. 

[Rdm]

Hey guys, i have a problem, my PC will get into bleedout mode by forsworn, and the meter is depleted and then i blackout and my pc gets back up again and the forsworns around me are non hostile to me, and so i wait 6 hours and then they are hostile and the cycle repeats, anyone know how to solve this?