Veladarius Posted December 21, 2017 Author Posted December 21, 2017 39 minutes ago, iwtfysb said: I'm running into a problem while trying to get the Protector Plus items. Everything works up until the point where Master took the messurements, says she will be right back, then she comes back but nothing happens after that. Anyone who can help me with this? Try these in order, when you hit upon the issue let me know what it is and I can tell you how to get around it. 1 - try resetting the player idle in the CD MCM menu, if that works then it is an issue with the version of ZAP you are using. CD has been tested with v7 and works fine with it but it has not been tested with the unofficial v8 by t.ara. FNIS automatically sets bound animations to NOT end unless told to so if you are using either an old version or v8 it may not have the correct tag setting. This will keep all scenes where the player and/or npc's are bound from ending so it will stall there. The point you describe the where it stops is the end of one scene and it goes to another so that would apply in this case. 2 - Get the load position for CD (use help CDx and it will be the first 2 digits of any ID from CD) and see if the following scenes are playing using the following commands (xx is the ID that you looked up): issceneplaying xx1EE0BA - if the value returned is a 1 then the issue described in #1 is a likely candidate for the problem issceneplaying xx1EE0BF - if the value returned is a 1 then something has stopped the process of device installation though you should have seen the dialogue "Here are your new items" before it goes to equip them. If this is the case then upload the papyrus log file from the session where you attempt to have the items equipped and let me know what version of DD you are using. 3 - if both of the scenes above return 0 then upload a papyrus log file. When doing so, make sure logging is turned 'on' in DD so I can see what it is doing. If you are not sure how to get a log Google it as it is rather simple to set up and whatever you find will likely tell you where the file is placed.
iwtfysb Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, Veladarius said: Try these in order, when you hit upon the issue let me know what it is and I can tell you how to get around it. 1 - try resetting the player idle in the CD MCM menu, if that works then it is an issue with the version of ZAP you are using. CD has been tested with v7 and works fine with it but it has not been tested with the unofficial v8 by t.ara. FNIS automatically sets bound animations to NOT end unless told to so if you are using either an old version or v8 it may not have the correct tag setting. This will keep all scenes where the player and/or npc's are bound from ending so it will stall there. The point you describe the where it stops is the end of one scene and it goes to another so that would apply in this case. 2 - Get the load position for CD (use help CDx and it will be the first 2 digits of any ID from CD) and see if the following scenes are playing using the following commands (xx is the ID that you looked up): issceneplaying xx1EE0BA - if the value returned is a 1 then the issue described in #1 is a likely candidate for the problem issceneplaying xx1EE0BF - if the value returned is a 1 then something has stopped the process of device installation though you should have seen the dialogue "Here are your new items" before it goes to equip them. If this is the case then upload the papyrus log file from the session where you attempt to have the items equipped and let me know what version of DD you are using. 3 - if both of the scenes above return 0 then upload a papyrus log file. When doing so, make sure logging is turned 'on' in DD so I can see what it is doing. If you are not sure how to get a log Google it as it is rather simple to set up and whatever you find will likely tell you where the file is placed. Allright, so I had to reset player idle 4 times in order for it to work 1st time it didn't do anything, so I just tried again. 2nd time it triggered the "Here are your items", 3rd time it actually equipped the items and the 4th time I could continue with my game. I reloaded the save file to check for the scenes, and the first one returns scene playing, while the second one says that scene is not playing. For the record, I just started a new save file and I'm using the latest builds of DD and CD. Thanks for the help!
Maddac Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 I look forward to your DD4 updates to your mods with anticipation. CD is an integral part of my mod list. also looking forward to updates for DD for him and FTM. wish i could help but i am a player not a modder, but if i find stuff broken will let you know. Thanks for making CD such a great mod
Veladarius Posted December 22, 2017 Author Posted December 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Maddac said: I look forward to your DD4 updates to your mods with anticipation. CD is an integral part of my mod list. also looking forward to updates for DD for him and FTM. wish i could help but i am a player not a modder, but if i find stuff broken will let you know. Thanks for making CD such a great mod Only items that would likely be an issue are the armbinders and yokes. I have had reports that they do get equipped but not always removed, other than the unremovable one in the delivery quest you get if you get beaten but happen to kill one or more bandits all armbiners and yokes are standard items and taken directly from DDi and DDx.
shadowwolf2k7 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 i defenitly know the know that the courior is better then the male one. she entered bleakfalls barrow and found me just before i got to the puzzle door to give me the final ad. that is one brave lady, and that was after dropping off the second ad at the beginning of bleakfalls. i think she really loves her job lol.
Veladarius Posted December 22, 2017 Author Posted December 22, 2017 13 hours ago, shadowwolf2k7 said: i defenitly know the know that the courior is better then the male one. she entered bleakfalls barrow and found me just before i got to the puzzle door to give me the final ad. that is one brave lady, and that was after dropping off the second ad at the beginning of bleakfalls. i think she really loves her job lol. She must have been following you since the last town you were in as she is only set to spawn at settlements and towns.
krighaur Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 That's a lot of work you have planned Veladarius. Thanks for doing it for us
shadowwolf2k7 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Veladarius said: She must have been following you since the last town you were in as she is only set to spawn at settlements and towns. it would be true for the first one, since i was at the enterance of bleakfalls barrow. and she did give me one ad, i would think she would wait until i left to give me the the second one, nothing wrong with her doing that, it just suprised me that she brought me a second one while still in BFB.
bicobus Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 The shop is just that, a kink shop. The master as a storyline and some quests, and if you get to be her slave then you'll get the real nice treatment. As for your issues, I believe it is because you didn't install CD properly. The parts aren't meant to be all installed but to let you chose which ones are relevant for your setup. You need part 1 and 2, not sure about 3 and the last two aren't needed if you use bodyslide. Since you crash, you definitively did something wrong on your end. We'll need a load order and some logs.
valcon767 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, AkiKay said: Hello there, so ive downloaded this Mod and ive encountered some serious issues and i also have some questions. Well. Is it normal that nothing is happening when i enter the Shop ? This Mod seems really big but.. the Shop is.. well a Shop and nothing else. And somehow a German Translation has enabled itself. Im German and.. Nothing makes sense. its really confusing. And when i get enslaved through MCM and the Courier talks to me theres a Message saying "LOOKUP FAILED". When i talk to him again the Conversation Starts once again and i get to choose what slave ill be. Once selected the Black screen triggers, no loading screen appears and i crash. Since then my Whole Save is broken and CTD´s will appear when loading any of the 5 auto and quick saves i made on the Save. (Yes i made a new Save) Ive installed Part 1-5 and Captured Dreams. Then i activated everything in order. 1,2,3,4,5 and CD -Aki ok just to make sure when you downloaded the mod you got part 1 part 2 (only 1 version of the 4 available) part 3 (only the version that matches your bodytype CBBE or UNPB) part 4 (only the version that matches you bodytype CBBE or UNPB ...this part is not needed if you build the meshes yourself in bodyslide) part 5 (this section is optional and the mod will work without anything from this section) (these files are an optional esp to turn Thalmor Embassy guard to all female during this mods quests that take place there and a UNPB mesh for certain piercings) and you did NOT get either of the files in the screenshot that have the yellow box around them??' those last 2 files are version 4.05 (and a patch for it). if you have part 1 that is a newer version and the 4.05 is not needed at all. if you installed either of the yellow boxed files as well as part 1 it will mess the mod up (part 1 is the newer version 4.15 and if you overwrite it with the old version 4.05 it will cause problems). as for when you enter the shop it should have the Master, Nissa, Tessa, 3 slaves, and 1-3 guards (Herran for one) in it. initially the shop is all there is, the rest will show up over time (the expansion to the shop has to be built, and under default settings it will not start building it until the PC is level 8, it should take about a month in game for the expansion to finish being built). when you first walk into the shop you should be able to talk to the Master, then be able to possibly buy and sell stuff to Master, Nissa, and Tessa. they should all have other dialogue options as well. the Master will also have some jobs available (take a delivery, recover a delivery, and mine some ore {after the mine is built}). if you have "Confiscation" turned on when you talk to Master there is a chance she will look through your inventory for Devious Devices (and equip them on you). you will get a total of 3 "Captured Dreams ads" delivered to you (mine are set to be delivered by courier) before the shop expansion begins. if you are not sure if the shop expansion is finished look around the area, it should have the following extra buildings after finishing: Manor House Guard Barracks (i might have misnamed it but it is where the guards sleep) Blacksmith Shop Mine Extra row of Cages near Manor House Small Stable (behind the shop) if you look around and see Tents that means the Expansion is in the process of being built. hopefully this information is helpful
bicobus Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Valcon did provide some more pointers as to what download. As for papyrus, it's the name of the script engine designed by bethesda. Since you don't know about it, I invite you to read the troubleshooting guide: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/22241-sexlab-troubleshooting-support-guide/?tab=comments#comment-549438
Stuker Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 You don't need CD 4.05 and the 4.051 Update. Delete these and it should work.
Veladarius Posted December 23, 2017 Author Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, AkiKay said: Hello there, so ive downloaded this Mod and ive encountered some serious issues and i also have some questions. Well. Is it normal that nothing is happening when i enter the Shop ? This Mod seems really big but.. the Shop is.. well a Shop and nothing else. And somehow a German Translation has enabled itself. Im German and.. Nothing makes sense. its really confusing. And when i get enslaved through MCM and the Courier talks to me theres a Message saying "LOOKUP FAILED". When i talk to him again the Conversation Starts once again and i get to choose what slave ill be. Once selected the Black screen triggers, no loading screen appears and i crash. Since then my Whole Save is broken and CTD´s will appear when loading any of the 5 auto and quick saves i made on the Save. (Yes i made a new Save) Ive installed Part 1-5 and Captured Dreams. Then i activated everything in order. 1,2,3,4,5 and CD -Aki 32 minutes ago, valcon767 said: ok just to make sure when you downloaded the mod you got part 1 part 2 (only 1 version of the 4 available) part 3 (only the version that matches your bodytype CBBE or UNPB) part 4 (only the version that matches you bodytype CBBE or UNPB ...this part is not needed if you build the meshes yourself in bodyslide) part 5 (this section is optional and the mod will work without anything from this section) (these files are an optional esp to turn Thalmor Embassy guard to all female during this mods quests that take place there and a UNPB mesh for certain piercings) and you did NOT get either of the files in the screenshot that have the yellow box around them??' those last 2 files are version 4.05 (and a patch for it). if you have part 1 that is a newer version and the 4.05 is not needed at all. if you installed either of the yellow boxed files as well as part 1 it will mess the mod up (part 1 is the newer version 4.15 and if you overwrite it with the old version 4.05 it will cause problems). as for when you enter the shop it should have the Master, Nissa, Tessa, 3 slaves, and 1-3 guards (Herran for one) in it. initially the shop is all there is, the rest will show up over time (the expansion to the shop has to be built, and under default settings it will not start building it until the PC is level 8, it should take about a month in game for the expansion to finish being built). when you first walk into the shop you should be able to talk to the Master, then be able to possibly buy and sell stuff to Master, Nissa, and Tessa. they should all have other dialogue options as well. the Master will also have some jobs available (take a delivery, recover a delivery, and mine some ore {after the mine is built}). if you have "Confiscation" turned on when you talk to Master there is a chance she will look through your inventory for Devious Devices (and equip them on you). you will get a total of 3 "Captured Dreams ads" delivered to you (mine are set to be delivered by courier) before the shop expansion begins. if you are not sure if the shop expansion is finished look around the area, it should have the following extra buildings after finishing: Manor House Guard Barracks (i might have misnamed it but it is where the guards sleep) Blacksmith Shop Mine Extra row of Cages near Manor House Small Stable (behind the shop) if you look around and see Tents that means the Expansion is in the process of being built. hopefully this information is helpful What Valcon767 said is correct. v4.05 and its update v4.051 are the last German translations that were made for the mod and the translation files are specific to each version. It was also the complete version with an installer with v4.051 being an update but v4.16 should have German Language support again as well as a partial installer; there will be a core file set (primarily part 1) and an installer for the rest since those are where the choices are. Generally things are not pushed on you though there are some parts that, depending on your character's stats for the mod, will result in things happening from Confiscation, the 'Free Trial' of items to enslavement (far different from most other slavery mods). There are also punishments for failure on quests (there are a number of quests and the number is growing) that range from minor to major. CD is completely customizable and most all quests can be disabled and those that can't you can just not do (you have to request those such as the delivery related quests). CD is not complete, considering all the ideas I have it may be some time before it is entirely done but it is already one of the larger mods here with an esp that is nearly 6 mb which includes nearly 10,000 lines of dialogue. If you have any questions or issues just post them here, I will respond though sometimes others beat me to it. If you have a specific problem (especially device related) be as specific as possible in telling what is going on and what quest it is from (if any) and upload a papyrus log (google it, it is pretty easy to find and set up) as the logs can let me know what is happening. Enjoy the mod and if you have any comments, feedback or ideas they are always welcome.
Baron Samedi Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Is there a way to jump right into manor slave? Or do you have to go through the standard Mine-> Forge-> Manor route?
UnEvenSteven Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Yes, it would be interesting to have a way to start Manor Slave without going through Property Slave. It should require a few hoops to jump through however. Right now you have to be on rather bad terms with Master (low disposition, fail jobs) and have a high debt to start Property Slave without the use of the MCM. I've tried a couple of times to have my poor character enslaved by the Master, it wasn't easy oddly enough. If we were given a way to start Manor Slave I think our characters should on good terms with the Master, she should trust our characters enough to start their slavery in the manor and not inside the mine. Naturally our characters would need a high positive disposition with the Master to even be considered. How submissive our characters are and certain attributes (enjoys bondage, having no control) should be also be factors in starting Manor Slave. Completing a number of certain jobs could also go towards being considered for Manor Slave. Basically completing any job where our characters a locked in devices for the duration of the job are counted. Other jobs like Customer Assist 2 (as a slave) are also counted. Even Free Trial could be considered, either from having more trial periods after the first one is over or if our characters are submissive, how long there were locked in Free Trial devices. Starting Manor Slave wouldn't require everything mentioned, it would be based on a point system like Property Slave and Relationship Slave is now. The only things that would absolutely be required are a good disposition with the Master, high submissiveness and certain attributes (loves bondage and having no control). After that points towards Manor Slave would be from jobs or Free Trial, let's say it would require 4 points. For example, completing 10-15 jobs that require our characters to wear devices would give 2 points. Completing Customer Assist 2 (as the slave) 4-6 times would give 2 points. Spending a cumulative total (not all in one go) of 4 weeks in Free Trial devices would give 2 points. So there would be a few ways to work towards being a Manor Slave bypassing Property Slave. After gaining 4 points and meeting other requirements the Master would force-greet our character and state that they might enjoy being a slave in the manor, seeing as how their very submissive, love being locked in devices and enjoy having control taken from them. Our characters may be able to decline unless they're rock-bottom submissive then they won't be able to say no. Of course there would be an MCM option to turn off starting Manor Slave this way. A solution to high debt could also be a way in to Manor Slave but only if on good terms with the Master, submissive and have at least 2 points towards Manor Slave. Our characters simply have to ask the Master about options concerning their high debt, the Master would then offer work in the manor as a slave. Starting the Manor Slave this way could also be a different lead-in to Relationship Slave, complete Manor Slave this way and be offered at the end. Right now you either have to go through Property->Manor Slave or you have to be on really good terms with the Master to be offered Relationship Slave. Apologies if this was sloppy or incoherent, it's the holidays so have been busy thus wrote this fast.
shadowwolf2k7 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 depending on how submissive your character is, free trial can go on a long time, longest i have had it go is 6 weeks. only way i got them removed, with out using the remove quest items, was with either going to the embassy or becoming a relationship slave. i did both, did a save before going to the embassy and one for the relationship slave part. the toon was very aroused the whole time.
Veladarius Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Baron Samedi said: Is there a way to jump right into manor slave? Or do you have to go through the standard Mine-> Forge-> Manor route? Yes, there is but it has its own price (maybe): 1 - enable Chaste Life and Slavery 2 - clear your sex history in SexLab (if you have had sex yet) 3 - either take the hard route to becoming a slave and screw up really badly or take the quick route and use the MCM option to start it 4 - Master has a thing for virgins and will have you sent to the Manor House (not sure if I have this set to work for males though Chaste Life does support it) I don't remember what I had set the outcome to if you complete it and leave and not be a slave though you can likely disable Chaste Life once you are in the Manor.
Veladarius Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, shadowwolf2k7 said: depending on how submissive your character is, free trial can go on a long time, longest i have had it go is 6 weeks. only way i got them removed, with out using the remove quest items, was with either going to the embassy or becoming a relationship slave. i did both, did a save before going to the embassy and one for the relationship slave part. the toon was very aroused the whole time. For every point of player disposition (how sub/dom you are) below 6 reduces the chance of removal by 20% so it comes out like this: 5 - 80% 4 - 60% 3 - 40% 2 - 20% 1 - 0% This is calculated when the timer expires, the new timer does not start until you speak with Master so you may end up walking around in it for a while with no timer running making it last that much longer. Also there is an additional negative if your disposition went down during the free trial. Getting your disposition to 6 will generally let you out once the current timer is done. Also, most quests that require wearing a CD quest device will usually cancel the Free Trial.
Anooon Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Oh wow, if you have disposition 1 you will be stuck in it potentially forever^^. How evil.
shadowwolf2k7 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 yep, her damagae output was awsome, and made her a pack rat. only side effect was my follower got very frustrated that she could play with her toy lol.
Veladarius Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 Master figures that if you are that submissive then you won't mind if she keeps you like that for as long as she wants. I intend to make it a way to become a relationship slave once you have been in it long enough.
kurotatsu Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 I think it would be nice for submissive PC to get items added during Free Trial. Something like "I see you like your belt. Now try it with corset!" And then naturally gloves and boots added, with possible catsuit and hood?
Anooon Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Her switching out the plugs from time to time or so would be nice. Plus, maybe an option to earn an orgasm before being locked back up? Because tbh the arousal level starts to lose all meaning when it's just permanently stuck at 100% for weeks or months. I suppose I could fiddle with the settings so it rises a lot slower so being at 100 arousal is actually meaningful and rare and then set up say DCL to harshly punish it.
Veladarius Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 8 hours ago, notwavman said: I think it would be nice for submissive PC to get items added during Free Trial. Something like "I see you like your belt. Now try it with corset!" And then naturally gloves and boots added, with possible catsuit and hood? 3 hours ago, Anooon said: Her switching out the plugs from time to time or so would be nice. Plus, maybe an option to earn an orgasm before being locked back up? Because tbh the arousal level starts to lose all meaning when it's just permanently stuck at 100% for weeks or months. I suppose I could fiddle with the settings so it rises a lot slower so being at 100 arousal is actually meaningful and rare and then set up say DCL to harshly punish it. I have been looking to update this for some time. Adding these would not be too difficult and adding items such as the shock piercings or (if you have a high enough ranking with master) earning a bit of relief time similar to Chaste Life. Addition of items could be first steps towards becoming a Relationship Slave. 2
Veladarius Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 Here is the planning for CD, how quickly things are released is unknown, depends on amount of work needed for a particular item and my overall drive to get things done (greatly affected by my medications). Scheduled projects (no release timeline, it is done when it is done) 1 - v4.16 w/ basic DD v4 update (equip / unequip scripts and checking over custom items) 2 - v4.17 w/ full DD v4 update (don't expect many of items to be added for use at this point) 3 - DD For Him patch update 4 - Special Project 5 - For the Masses rebuild 6 - v4.18 - Relationship Slave & Dom content - number of things to be done here, may be several releases worth 7 - MME optional addon Unscheduled Projects - not in any particular order and no guarantee of being done - rebuild Customer Assist 01 to include new DD items and get it working in general - Setup of AI and activities for 2 dungeon residents (quest dependent on if there) - may be part of #6 - Expansion of the 'Cursed God' story including way to actually become cursed (entrapped in the devices in game) - Handling of followers - Tweak / rework / update of Chaste Spouse - Tweak / finish of Customer Assist 02 (addition of 2nd npc so can be 3 actors total- you + 2 guests) - build 2 tasks - Serve at VIP party and Help punish one of the dungeon residents - Quests for / with Rayani - Setup Property Slave quests 3 and 4 for those that become Relationship Slaves without being a property slave - Special CA02 sessions with VIP's from around Skyrim (Elisif and others) - More story based quests (single shot quests) concerning Master and her overall story - Go see Tavish (major undertaking as would be new world space, town, npc etc) including some quests - Items concerning / affecting vampires and werewolves - allow rental of VIP room for 2-3 days and have roles reversed and have a CD slave have session with you Being considered - possible connections to other mods (undecided other than MME) - Allow enslavement of npc's (if dom personality) by various means Edit: BTW, this is your chance to submit any sort of things you would like to see and (if possible) I will work them in as I can but no guarantees on them as I have a general path that CD will go and it would have to be something that would fit in somewhere. Also, any consistent issues you have seen let me know again. I will be going back through comments for them but I still may miss something. Prominent issues will likely be addressed within the scheduled updates. 5
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